12" snare loud enough?

[Locke]

I'm about to buy my new snare but before I buy it i wanted to see if you guys thought it would be loud enough.

It's a 12"x5.5 Melody Master Steel Snare.

I'm in a punk band so the snare is going to be used heavily and would really need to cut through nicely.

So will it be loud enough or should I go for a 14x5.5 Hand Hammered Brass BP Snare instead?

[(V)ASTERDRUM$]

im not sure the only size snare i use is a 14" and it sound fukin great!

[Drum Phil]

^ ^ Quit spamming the forum

With the correct tuning it will. When i crank my 10" It cuts really well.

[Talos]

What is it with all the n00bs and theyr names with dollar signs and caps in it? It pisses me off.

I dont know ( To threadstarter ) I dont know anything about snares.

[(V)ASTERDRUM$]

thats not spamming

[Talos]

Sure it is, I say it is and Phil says it is and we've been here way longer than you and we know what spamming is. So go away :thumb:

[Josiah]

The 12" tuned high will cut through better in that situation then a 14". The higher pitch being what's mostly responsible for that.

[Locke]

Thanks Phil and Josiah, You two always tend to give good advice :)

Melody Master is is :)

[TTTSNB]

Nah, never go with anything smaller than a 13"...IMO less then 13 won't sound to great.

[Futuro]

Sure it is, I say it is and Phil says it is and we've been here way longer than you and we know what spamming is. So go away He at least tried to be helpful. All your first post consisted of was complaining.

It's a 12"x5.5 Melody Master Steel Snare.
Yes, It will be loud enough. I personally would go with the black panther (Fuller ring) But you choose. Play them both.

[Jezen]

thats not spamming

No, what spamming is, is when all you post is "Uhh where can I find some cool avatars?" or:

Q: Will a 12" snare be loud enough?

A: I dunno but I like my 14" snare!! /is retard.

He at least tried to be helpful. All your first post consisted of was complaining.


"Excuse me, do you know where the bus stop is?"

"No sorry, I don't know."

"Thanks for the help."


:confused:

[Futuro]

"Excuse me, do you know where the bus stop is?"

"No sorry, I don't know."

"Thanks for the help."...good point...

A: I dunno but I like my 14" snare!! /is retard. He was comparing it to a 14 BP.

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

If i'm not mistaken Bozzio use's a 12" snare as his main and it sounds fine.

So yes loud enough

[Kainen]

I have a 5"1/2X12" pearl maple snare and i've always had problems with it cutting through.

I've heard plently of times that "I couldnt hear your snare very well"


So I switched to my 4X14 nickel plated snare which cuts through perfectly.

[Josiah]

Again tuning plays a MAJOR factor. I can tune my 12" to break ears off if I wantted, you'll hear that thing.

If you can't hear a well tuned 12" snare, then the 14" ain't solving the problem. Just covering one symptom of the problem.

The overall mix is jacked up. The snare should be the loudest thing, next the kickdrum, next the lead vocals then everything else falls in line under that. Be it live or recorded that's generally the way things are mixed.

If you are just rehersing and your snare isn't being heard.. That means other thigns aren't as well. It means that everything is really too loud for the situation of the drums need to be mic'd.

[Kainen]

Again tuning plays a MAJOR factor. I can tune my 12" to break ears off if I wantted, you'll hear that thing.

If you can't hear a well tuned 12" snare, then the 14" ain't solving the problem. Just covering one symptom of the problem.




The thing has a vent smaller than the size of a dime. People were telling me to have someone enlarge the vent, But I wouldnt want too on my own for fear of damaging it.

My buddy, whose rediculously good at tuning drums, spent 30 minutes on that snare and couldn't get it to project.

I wish I could recall what venues people couldn't hear the snare at.. because i'm under the sinking suspicion that people couldnt hear it due to the acoustics of the venues.

[HeLLmO]

^if u tune up both sides of the drum well there should be absolutley no problem, i know sometimes ppl ignore reso heads, i used to, then i tuned my reso on my snare better, and it sounds so much better

[Kainen]

oh i know the bottom head is just as important.

It used to sound good years ago when I bought it... I don't know what the deal is with it.. I might buy some die cast or wooden hoops for it and try it out.


Its a 12" 10 lug... pain in the ***.

[Josiah]

The thing has a vent smaller than the size of a dime. People were telling me to have someone enlarge the vent, But I wouldnt want too on my own for fear of damaging it.

My buddy, whose rediculously good at tuning drums, spent 30 minutes on that snare and couldn't get it to project.

I wish I could recall what venues people couldn't hear the snare at.. because i'm under the sinking suspicion that people couldnt hear it due to the acoustics of the venues.


The idiocy... The air vent has little to do with such things. Even doubling it's size wouldn't do much. People = idiots most the time.

I assure you the snare drum projects. That would simply be impossible to not occur unless it was silent.

If it was a venue, the snare shoulda been mic'd anyway.. wich means it was the sound guys fault.

Once mic's come into the picture, all bets are off. There's no reason why something can't be heard if it's mic'd.

[LostRythym]

I dont think size makes a difference in volume, the only thing affected should be pitch.

[theflame85]

Size doesnt usually make a difference in volume, its all down to tuning.

Go around your toms (if their tuned the same) and you wont notice much of a difference in the volume between a 10x8 to a 16x16

[sLarkin20]

isnt it the depth that plays more of a role in the overall sound? like a smaller depth snare drum is going to have more pop and crack then a deeper one which will have more volume or "thud" im guessing? could be wrong though, anyone else know?

[theflame85]

Depth of toms often just adds more resonance i think.

I'm not sure how to explain depth of snare. it definatly adds more ring on steel snares.

[CasB]

I use a 12" steel snare, and yes, it is loud as hell :p

[Chippy569]

I use a 10" snare as my main, and crack the batter pretty tight. It's got crack that'll take your ears off, that's for sure!
i had a gig last night with a friend's band and i let the drummer try it. he set it on the table and hit it and was like "pff, it's quiet!" and i said "pick it up and rimshot it." so he did. all of the rest of our bands were standing nearby, and they all groaned and were holding which ever ear was closest to the drum! it was funny.