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TravisBarkerrules
01-20-2006, 05:59 PM
We need a mixer to record into a computer that has enough imputs to do drums and all that good stuff. what would you recommend we are looking to spend any where from 100-200
Also we are looking to buy a pretty inexpensive set of drum mics.Any suggestions?
The only thing that you could do with that budget would be to buy a cheap behringer mixer and some really cheap nady condenser mics that are like $30. But dont be suprised when the quality of them.
shadow_stalker
01-20-2006, 06:09 PM
I think ebay would be your best bet on a budget like that im afraid, there are some decent ones knocking about
TravisBarkerrules
01-20-2006, 06:15 PM
the 100-200 is for the mixer itself. The drum mic are a different thing. If that makes a difference but we looked at behringer for about $120 and we dont really know all that much about mixer except that we are going to need one if anyone know anything about this mixer like if it will mic my set fine and about how many mics for drums can i put into there
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live/Sound/Mixers?sku=631235 (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live/Sound/Mixers?sku=631235)
aznriceball
01-20-2006, 06:44 PM
100-200 per mic?
the link doesnt show up for me. it jsut goes to a white screen and a box comes up. 200 for a mixer isnt so bad.
TravisBarkerrules
01-20-2006, 09:29 PM
hooray i fixed it...i think! no not per mic. Im looking for a realitively cheap set of drum mics but i dont really have a price range figured out yet.
100-200 is for a mixer the link i think is fixed above
moogoogaipan
01-20-2006, 10:01 PM
good luck in that range.
Mixers are hard to find in the cheap range...because you need all the XLR plugs. It's really easy to accidentally buy a mixer without the appropriate number of XLR mike inputs...since some mixers have a lot of inputs, but only like 2 XLR inputs. Just be careful when looking for that. Also, this site has really good prices and customer service.
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PGDMK6XLR/
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PV10USB/
I just spent about $700 on my first setup.
a pretty incredible set up for the money... I'm happy with the purchase
Half Life
01-20-2006, 10:49 PM
The mics Moogoo suggested are great. I also own the exact same set he does and it's phenomenal. Those prices are pretty average though. MF is about the same, maybe 3 cents more than Sweetwater :rolleyes: I got my set on Ebay for $300 flat brand new, so check there for a good deal. That mixer doesn't look half bad also :thumb:
moogoogaipan
01-20-2006, 10:52 PM
^^^well. I'm recommending SweetWater because of the customer service.
Throught the entire transaction, I was in touch with the main sales manager and he catered to my every need. He even send a big bag of candy when my shipment came.
Very Excellent service in my opinion...prompt also.:thumb:
Half Life
01-20-2006, 11:30 PM
Hmm...what kind of candy? If they'd send me some Riesen with my orders I'd buy from them straight away! :lol:
TravisBarkerrules
01-21-2006, 11:16 AM
What exactly is an XLR input? And how many of them would be ideal?
My idea is that an XLR input is the bigger mic input and in the other forum thing this guy said its going to be hard to find one for that price that had enough inputs and for us to buy 2 different mixer. Would this work?
TravisBarkerrules
01-21-2006, 11:28 AM
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live/Sound/Mixers?sku=631229
looking at this
Also looking at getting 2 different mixers which would be
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live/Sound/Mixers?sku=631235
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Live/Sound/Mixers?sku=631236
moogoogaipan
01-21-2006, 11:53 AM
XLR is the big 3-prong hole labelled Mic.
The first one that you listed looks fine if you are getting a 6 mic set. But if you are getting more than 6 mics, then look some more. Connected 2 is going to be more burdening than just finding one that has them all already there.
for example... this is a good price for this
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PV14
TravisBarkerrules
01-21-2006, 01:16 PM
Also we are looking for a soundcard that is decently priced and good for a home studio done demo.
Josiah
01-21-2006, 01:31 PM
OH Boy....
"What exactly is an XLR input? And how many of them would be ideal?"
At this point you need to start considering a few factors involved. You know nothing. You are spending money without knowing anything. You are spending money, without knowing what you are doing, in the hopes of producing a product.
Not exactly a "good" plan.
If you are looking to produce a quality demo, and here's a hint, having crap equipment, no working knowledge of how to use it, or how to record in general, well it's just not going to happen man.
You're going to end up spending a lot of money, time and end up with crap.. not to mention there's the whole mixing and mastering side of things, how to record and of course. Your PC better be able to handle all that stuff too.
The BEST thing you can do, for you and your band, is get your 4-5 songs down tight.. I mean tight, if you don't have them tight. Then there's no point in recording.
Find a local studio that does demo packages, like almost all of them do. You should be able to find a decent studio that will record your demo, mix it, master it and prob print out like 50 copies for the money you're looking to drop on recording gear.
You'll end up with a much much better product in the end, a totality of less fustration and you can have something that sounds great at the end.
TravisBarkerrules
01-21-2006, 02:49 PM
Yeah you would be correct we know nothing but we just figured it would be smart to get some ideas. Thanks
Josiah
01-21-2006, 02:54 PM
The way to do home recording now is to buy a multiple interface system.. like a Motu808
Something where you can feed 8-12+ tracks into a computer and do all the recording, mixing, mastering, etc on the computer.
Buying a mixer to record now is like.. a waste of money. Computers have changed the recording industry forever.
A motu, or some other interface box, some software and a decently powerful computer gets you all you need to crank out quality recordings. Mic's, Cables and stands being your biggest expense now.
Considering a decent kick mic runs $150-200 alone... you're guys budget doesn't really allow for the nessicary funding to put together a home recording setup.
Hit up local studios and find out what packages are out there.
Laney
01-21-2006, 05:08 PM
- 2 decent overheads and a good kick mic.
- Behringer Mixer
- MiniDisc
Works well enough for me :)
Seafroggys
01-21-2006, 09:28 PM
The way to do home recording now is to buy a multiple interface system.. like a Motu808
Something where you can feed 8-12+ tracks into a computer and do all the recording, mixing, mastering, etc on the computer.
Buying a mixer to record now is like.. a waste of money. Computers have changed the recording industry forever.
true, this is the route I want to go, but you can manually control the faders on the mixers (some people prefer that) and usually the built-in preamps on a really damn good mixer will sound better than those on what you speak of.
However, if they can develop like a USB mixerboard for that sort of system, that would be awesome.....
Josiah
01-21-2006, 09:34 PM
You can buy midi controller "mixing boards" so you can "feel the knobs" when mixing.
Very lame I think, click of a mouse or turn a knob.. it's not like anyones been touching the knobs for the last 30 years.. any of us that is.
The pre-amps could make a difference, though most those high end units cover that area very well, the Motu's for instance. Plus the software can do incredible things now..
Of couse, this is all way beyond the scope of the threadstarters budget. Wich is why a nice demo package from a local studio would be perfect.
moogoogaipan
01-21-2006, 09:40 PM
However, if they can develop like a USB mixerboard for that sort of system, that would be awesome.....
I just bought a USB 2.0 Peavey Mixer. It works beautifully with Sonar 5
TravisBarkerrules
01-21-2006, 11:27 PM
Alright you guys have been a bunch of help i think we have realized that our budget sucks and really its not going to get us anywhere so i think we are just gonna write some more songs, do some shows and see how things go from there
TTTSNB
01-22-2006, 12:27 AM
Audix 7 piece fusion pack, 3-400 for all those mics.
TravisBarkerrules
01-22-2006, 12:06 PM
im only play a four piece right now so i would have an extra mic so i dont know the behringer mixer might just have to work if we decide to do this.
TTTSNB
01-22-2006, 12:40 PM
You can buy midi controller "mixing boards" so you can "feel the knobs" when mixing.
Very lame I think, click of a mouse or turn a knob.. it's not like anyones been touching the knobs for the last 30 years.. any of us that is.
The pre-amps could make a difference, though most those high end units cover that area very well, the Motu's for instance. Plus the software can do incredible things now..
Of couse, this is all way beyond the scope of the threadstarters budget. Wich is why a nice demo package from a local studio would be perfect.
yeah, definitely, only get a mixer if you intend to also do live sound.
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