The roots of pop-punk...

[RIP Ian Curtis]

Howdy y'all

This is my first post in the pop-punk forum, so don't be too hard on me please. Basically I want this thread to be about where pop-punk comes from, what main bands have shaped it and anything else relevant you can think of. First and foremost... where do you cats think pop-punk began?

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All i can think of is pop punk proberly started in the UK. but most of the popular pop punk bands are from So Cal.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Pop punk started with the Ramones.

[sketchyjoe]

Pop-punk started with The Ramones. It carried on with British bands like The Buzzcocks, The Adicts and The Undertones. It went back to America with hardcore influenced pop-punk like The Descendents and The Adolescents which led to bands like NOFX, The Offspring etc.

[Drop The Baby]

Pop-punk began with the Ramones. It became a more obvious genre in my opinion with bands such as the uk's Adicts and the Descendents.

then developed NOFX, Offpsring, Green Day, Rancid etc

some ofthese bands developed from pop-punk into pop-rock and have become alienated from the true scene (Green Day)


I'm drunk and Joe could explain this far better than i could so i will (probably) leave anything else i want to say till later

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Pop-punk began with the Ramones. It became a more obvious genre in my opinion with bands such as the uk's Adicts and the Descendents.

then developed NOFX, Offpsring, Green Day, Rancid etc

some ofthese bands developed from pop-punk into pop-rock and have become alienated from the true scene (Green Day)


I'm drunk and Joe could explain this far better than i could so i will (probably) leave anything else i want to say till later
He already did :chug:

[Drop The Baby]

He already did :chug:

Tis what i meant. I won't go into the details that i could when sober, or Joe could now if he wnated to elaborate on his post above mine.

:chug:

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Tis what i meant. I won't go into the details that i could when sober, or Joe could now if he wnated to elaborate on his post above mine.

:chug:I think a few of us can go into detial, bu im too lazy.

Speeking of drunkeness, IM 18 ON MONDAY, Go me :D

[irishbasketcase]

it started with the ramones but they were classed as punk until greenday released dookie, they were clased as cartoon punk, then when blink 182 went big it changed to pop-punk, there are bands such as the buzzcocks who wud now b called pop-punk but then they were called punk

[Ross]

Genre changes with time.

[AndreTheHyena]

the Queers, Screeching Weasel...

[young, loud, and andrew]

In their day, The Ramones were definitely a punk band.

The Descendents were probably the first "pop punk" band. Pick up their album Milo Goes To College.

If you want to hear modern pop punk that actually sounds like it came from The Descendents, check out The Ergs. myspace.com/theergs.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

the Queers, Screeching Weasel...


Screeching Weasel rock my tiny little world.

[CommieCanada]

pop punk really mostly decended from Post-punk. you cant really say that it came from the ramones because most people consider the Ramones the start of Punk, period.

Post-punk however took some of the rhythems and speed of punk and mixed it with more of a pop sensability. The Cure were best known for this style. A lot of pop-punk bands (powerpop as the elitest call it) site The Cure and other bands of that era as some of their favorite artists

[Snoisrucxe]

pop punk really mostly decended from Post-punk. you cant really say that it came from the ramones because most people consider the Ramones the start of Punk, period.

Post-punk however took some of the rhythems and speed of punk and mixed it with more of a pop sensability. The Cure were best known for this style. A lot of pop-punk bands (powerpop as the elitest call it) site The Cure and other bands of that era as some of their favorite artists

Personally I don't agree with that. Sure they could be influenced and like those bands but the pop punk sound today and even since The Descendents bares little in common to most of the post punk of the late 70s ear 80s. Sure bands like The Talking Heads, The Cure, Joy Division etc had pop sensabilities but there sound resembles little to any pop punk other than that. Post Punk music tended to incorperate more experemental elements to their music and also experementing with different genres in their sound.

I think really what you are saying is they are more influenced by the more new wavish bands than the post punk stuff.

[CommieCanada]

Personally I don't agree with that. Sure they could be influenced and like those bands but the pop punk sound today and even since The Descendents bares little in common to most of the post punk of the late 70s ear 80s. Sure bands like The Talking Heads, The Cure, Joy Division etc had pop sensabilities but there sound resembles little to any pop punk other than that. Post Punk music tended to incorperate more experemental elements to their music and also experementing with different genres in their sound.

I think really what you are saying is they are more influenced by the more new wavish bands than the post punk stuff.
i was referring to most pop-punk bands of today. i misread the origional question.

but really post-punk does sound a lot like pop-punk. It influenced a lot of new wave acts, sure, but it still sounds like pop-punk. Especially early The Cure. Take Boys Don't Cry for instance. Simple 4 chord music about a breakup.

[Gnarmageddon]

Power pop.

[CommieCanada]

Power pop.
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[Dave de Sylvia]

Power pop.
Everything being done today is just a bad impression of the Cars.

[Gnarmageddon]

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Really though. It's hard to find good pop punk nowadays.

Everything being done today is just a bad impression of the Cars.
Pretty much.