Solo bass performance

[J Q F]

Hey everyone

How ya doing? I've got a few songs and I'd like to get some feed back. Some are from a recent performance I did and the others are a few recordings done in my room. My time is a little out in places and there's some wack notes but I think I still pulled it off.

http://www.mp3.com.au/jimmyquickfingers -thanks for fixing it midnight

Allright keep well

J Q F

[J Q F]

n e 1 care 2 coment?

[wefles]

the link doesnt work

[Riouken]

Ohh, you're that guy who named himself Jimmy Quick Fingers hahahhahahaha :lol:

*ahem*

Yeah I heard it over on Talkbass.


I found it bored me. The 16th notes were sloppy clicky.

The whole 10 notes per second thing... you put that on yoru website as if it wa smeant to sound impressive? I'll tell you now, 10 nps, is not impressive.

I don't wnat to soudn harsh but the fact that:

1. You put it on there as if it wee to imrpess made you sound pathetic.

2. The 10 notes weren't clean anyway

3. Even fi they were clean it wouldn't be impressive.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not perfect. But I don't go around on my website saying "fast stuff I did. It#'s so damn fast. I'm the sea food fast king."

Other than that. Good job :thumb:


P.S. Just work on your clairty a bit more, less on speed, less on impressing people and more on writing songs you like because you like them. Not so someone else will.

[Alma]

Downloading now. *Is still on dial up*

Geelong eh? Im coming down there this week actually.

[Death'n'Funk]

Well, I'm sorry to say this, but this was really boring.

It seemed that there wasn't a concept or an idea behind those tracks.
Also there were to many 16th-notes which were just absolutely pointless.

Edit: The URL of the link has to be corrected.

[katana_manatee]

Sorry, really didn't like it, sounds just like someone completely improvising everything and not very well. The flamenco picking technique lessens the quality of the music rather than enhances it I feel.

Also, it was pretty sloppy, recording quality/tone was pretty bad. Basically it sounds far too hastily done. Very little melodic content and there wasn't really any feeling of groove.

Sorry for all the negative comments on the music mate, I'm not trying to be nasty but your stuff needs an awful lot of work.

[Spazzout22]

The whole 10 notes per second thing... you put that on yoru website as if it wa smeant to sound impressive? I'll tell you now, 10 nps, is not impressive.


Isn't 10 notes per second less than 16th note tripplets at 120 bpm? Cuz that's like classical thump level and they arn't all that hard (for a while).

Anyway, to thread starter. You should play your solo stuff with a metronome, it'll help with your timing. Also, you don't have to tremelo ever note. With your jazz series... Well the bass line was ok... but your sense of rhythm could use improvement. Again, play with a metronome, that should help keep your bass line solid in time, and help with sync-ing up your over dub tracks. Keep it up!

[eholencik@yahoo.com]

with a name like jimmy quick fingers, who can go wrong!

[IndigoSound]

Hey guys, this might sound very n00bish but being heavily influenced by Roger Waters i have a bass style that keeps me playing at a not to fast tempo ( exluding some of our more zepplin influenced numbers ) so i was just wondering how on earth do you do ten notes in one second? Thanks in advance!


IndigoSound.

[:amaze:]

Hey guys, this might sound very n00bish but being heavily influenced by Roger Waters i have a bass style that keeps me playing at a not to fast tempo ( exluding some of our more zepplin influenced numbers ) so i was just wondering how on earth do you do ten notes in one second? Thanks in advance!


IndigoSound.


practice, practice, and after that .... practice some more. and repeat.





:amaze:

[eholencik@yahoo.com]

i adopted the 'classical guitar' method with my right hand to do really fast licks, like super fast triplets and such. i use my thumb and my first three fingers. it is NOT in out plucking like with slap and stuff, it is the traditional finger picking style most classical guitar players use- im not the first to cross that method over on bass, a lot of players do it out of necesity because playing with four fingers is a lot more efficient than playing with two (for certain styles and players), but the most important thing is TIME!!!!!!!!!!!! oh my dear god, nothing sounds worse than a bass player with bad time, especially one that tries to do too much and thinks hes the ****. if you want to practice this kinda stuff its a good idea to try it with a metronome or drum machine. - i should also mention there are many other ways to approach speed with the right hand, I would try em' all and see what feels most comfortable, this method worked for me.

[eholencik@yahoo.com]

oh yeah, and to my pal jimmy, if you claim you can do 10 notes a second- i didn't hear it once in your songs, wtf are you talking about? i heard a lot of really out of time 16th notes, but no 10 notes a second. please let me know where they are in your songs, because i don't think i have ever heard anything like that before. the fastest i can do is about six (two triplet phrases)... don't mean to be harsh man, but don't talk out your *** like that man, your bound to get shot down.

[katana_manatee]

oh yeah, and to my pal jimmy, if you claim you can do 10 notes a second- i didn't hear it once in your songs, wtf are you talking about? i heard a lot of really out of time 16th notes, but no 10 notes a second. please let me know where they are in your songs, because i don't think i have ever heard anything like that before. the fastest i can do is about six (two triplet phrases)... don't mean to be harsh man, but don't talk out your *** like that man, your bound to get shot down.

Actually, ten notes a second isn't that fast, and you would be able to do far more than six a second. I figured out a formula to show how many notes a second you can play.

Right, 60bpm is one beat a second right? If you play sixteenths then thats 4 notes a second. So, if you divide 60 by four you get 15. Multiply that by ten and that gives you the bpm of 10 notes a second which is 150bpm. So he is saying he can do sixteenths at 150 bpm, which quite frankly is nothing that special. And even if it was, you still have to be so far up your arse to brag about it.

[bassistuvdoom731]

Heres an easier way katana

16th notes at 60 bpm is 4 notes per second right?
8th notes at 120 is the same thing
4(!!!)th notes at 240

so yea, i ussually just covert it to ___ at 240, and thats the notes per second.

[katana_manatee]

Heres an easier way katana

16th notes at 60 bpm is 4 notes per second right?
8th notes at 120 is the same thing
4(!!!)th notes at 240

so yea, i ussually just covert it to ___ at 240, and thats the notes per second.

Err... I don't see how that works, the formula I figured out was to give the precise speed/amount of notes. You can manipulate the formula to show how many notes are at a certain bpm too:

If playing 16th notes at 150, then multiply 150 by 4 which is 600, divide by 60 you get 10 a second.

So the formula for finding notes a second based on sixteenth notes at a certain bpm is:

BPM * 4 / 60 = Number of notes a second

So if a person was doing say 200bpm then 200*4/60=13 and a third notes a second.

[bassistuvdoom731]

I like my way better, its easier to remember :p.

To each hs own.

[katana_manatee]

I like my way better, its easier to remember :p.

To each hs own.

Aye, to each his own, whatever works for ya, I don't quite understand how yours works though, could you give a wee demonstration cos the only way I can think of figuring out the notes per second is with my wee equation. :)

[bassistuvdoom731]

O wow, i just tried to do a demonstration and realized that it didnt work out. Hm, maybe i should adopt your way :lol:.

EDIT: o wait i just realized what i was doing wrong. :p

okay bassically whatever you have a bpm, and a note value(eigth, quarter, etc.) You want the bpm to equal 240(im not sure why, it just works) so you multiply or divide the bpm by a number to get it to 240. Whatever number you multiplied/didvided by to get 240, you do the opposite to the note value. (if you multiplied, you divide. If you divided, you multiply.)

For exapmle. 8th notes at 120
You want 120 to equal 240
120 x 2 =240. Since you multiplied the bpm by 2, your going to divide the note value by 2. 8 / 2 = 4. 4 notes per second.

[katana_manatee]

O wow, i just tried to do a demonstration and realized that it didnt work out. Hm, maybe i should adopt your way :lol:.

Yeah, I was getting pretty baffled how your way worked but ah well. I think this is the first time I have actually made use of algebra in the real world. :lol:

[bassistuvdoom731]

I think i fixed it, i also think that our equations are exactly the same. :eek:

see my edited post.

[katana_manatee]

I think i fixed it, i also think that our equations are exactly the same. :eek:

Ha ha, I guess it must be the only one that works, or the simplest one at least. It's pretty basic algebra, I bet thousands of people will have used that equation.

[J Q F]

Well then... I don't know quite how to respond. Umm.. the talk bass thing was my first thread. I've now changed the title and did you notice that I didn't say anything about the 10 nps on this site. I know my timings wack i got a metronome for chrissy and it hasn't stoped ticking. I did the performance live in front of my musical peers. I was pretty nervous and I had change in my pockets going in off beats. I know it dosn't make up for everything. As soon as I get some money i'm getting my frets ripped out. I hate the clicks as much as you guys do. Thanks for the feedback. It's much appreciated and needed. Arrr.. if the link doesn't work (as it did for me) type it into your browser and it's all cool.

Have a good one!

J Q F

[NoodleAddict]

someone tell me how i get the flippin link to work!

[S-Tin-Gray]

someone tell me how i get the flippin link to work!

Click on it, they delete the musicianforums bit out of the address. Or just manually type it in... should work fine.

[Midnight]

http://www.mp3.com.au/jimmyquickfingers

Fix'd

[eholencik@yahoo.com]

wow, katana totally owned me with his damn mathematics. i understand that the math adds up, and today i sat down with my bass and you are right, it is very possible (i just thought it sounded like a little much when i first heard 10 notes a sec). but regaurdless, the point is that is irrelevent and doesn't mean poo. i still dig the jim man and admire him (with exception of his name) for his cool and calm handeling of some of the negative posts. he knows what he wants to do and how to do it and that is what really matters.

erik

[S-Tin-Gray]

wow, katana totally owned me with his damn mathematics. i understand that the math adds up, and today i sat down with my bass and you are right, it is very possible (i just thought it sounded like a little much when i first heard 10 notes a sec). but regaurdless, the point is that is irrelevent and doesn't mean poo. i still dig the jim man and admire him (with exception of his name) for his cool and calm handeling of some of the negative posts. he knows what he wants to do and how to do it and that is what really matters.

erik


It's spelled pwned, n00b.

[J Q F]

wow, katana totally owned me with his damn mathematics. i understand that the math adds up, and today i sat down with my bass and you are right, it is very possible (i just thought it sounded like a little much when i first heard 10 notes a sec). but regaurdless, the point is that is irrelevent and doesn't mean poo. i still dig the jim man and admire him (with exception of his name) for his cool and calm handeling of some of the negative posts. he knows what he wants to do and how to do it and that is what really matters.

erik

Cheers man. Even the most negative of posts still help. If they didn't say it I wouldn't grow and develope as all good musicians should. The advice i've recieved here and at other unmentionable forums has helped greatly. I'm going back to study music for the third year and this one I'm going to by alot more clear and focused on my musical goals (tech, time, harmony, keys etc). Cheers for the support people keep it coming.

James Nicholas

[Matthew2250]

The one thing I would say, I'm not that fussy about technique although when its absolutely terrible then I get fussy, your stuff didn't really have a hook. You need to work on making stuff that people can nod along to with a melody that stands out and is memorable. That, I believe, is one of the things that separates the professionals from the amateurs.

[J Q F]

The one thing I would say, I'm not that fussy about technique although when its absolutely terrible then I get fussy, your stuff didn't really have a hook. You need to work on making stuff that people can nod along to with a melody that stands out and is memorable. That, I believe, is one of the things that separates the professionals from the amateurs.

Good point