best cymbals for jazz

[schvian]

hey, i am getting a enw drum set soon, sonor jungle set for jazz, so i figured i'll get enw cymbals to go with it next year, what are the best sounding cymbals for jaz?that arent outragesly expensive....some cymbals that are light, jazzy and good for some light rock stuff too....thx

[Tim]

HH, HHX, K, Kcustom

[schvian]

ok, do you have any rough prices for them??for like a set of hats, ride, and a crash or 2...in canada prices if possible

[The Ska Man]

Agop Sigs :P.

[moogoogaipan]

Agop Sigs :P.
^^^you don't know...your a punkdrummer:naughty:

[Plan B.]

Check out some Sabians (cheaper in Canada).

Mainly Vault rides and HHX's.

Around here, my 18" Stage crash cost $180 CDN if I remember correctly. 14" HHX hats should run roughly $220 for a good price. The Vault rides though are expensive, I can't remember the price but I'd guess around $280 and up.

[Aaron]

Paiste's Traditional line is probably the best on the market, IMO. However I have a feeling they're expensive for you guys so i'd go with the following:

20" HHX Manhattan Ride
18" HHX Chinese
13" HH Fusion Hats
15" HH Thin Crash

[MerDeNoms]

Zildjian A's and A Customs actually work surprisingly well for jazz.

I have a 21" A Sweet Ride, that is washy and warm enough for jazz, but when played closer to and on the bell, it can be used for most alternative and rock applications.

My 18" and 20" A Custom crashes are great for everything. They have the warmth of K's almost, but the brightness and shimmer of A's, so when hit softly, they produce a darker, warm accent. When hit hard, they produce a louder explosion of color, for big powerful accents.

You would think that K's would be the only choice, but careful selecting and experimentation will show that certain sizes from different lines can be used in more way than you would think ;).

Edit- This is only from Zildjian of course. Sabian HHXs and some HHs can be great for jazz.. especially the Dave Weckl Evos, they are thin and really dark.

Some Paiste 2oo2s and Giant Beat cymbals are warm enough for a lower volume jazz setting too. I would go with Giant Beats of the two, as the big sizes and thinner weights work perfectly IMO.

Bosphorus makes GREAT cymbals for jazz, listen to any of Stanton Moore's stuff.. he uses giant ones and they sound great ;).

[flyguy]

Constantinoples anyone ???

[Caleb3221]

As said, K, K custom, HH, HHX are all good. I'm not a fan of As/A Customs and similar lines, they are just too bright for my taste(but they are good for the bigband/swingy sound). I have really been liking Istanbul cymbals as well, my 19in crash/ride is easily one of my favorite cymbals.

flyguy:He said not outrageouly expensive, which Constantinoples are.

[Aaron]

not if your in australia.. bwhahahahaha

[-HellsKitchen-]

I was in my local music shop earler today and saw Sabian "Hand Hammered Performance Set" which includes 14" Regular Hats, 16" Medium Thin Crash and a 20" Medium Ride which all would work great for jazz. It cost 899.00$$ can. for the set.

[Jezen]

Stop leading him in the direction of 'wannabe' jazz cymbals.

Get real jazz cymbals: Istanbul Agop.

[The Ska Man]

^^^you don't know...your a punkdrummer:naughty:



Cough, Cough.... (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394546)

[Bryan Blakey]

holy dinero, batman

[Seafroggys]

Ks, K Constanioples, Istanbuls, all good....

or the best....vintage Ks :)

[DuckinFutch]

I hate the HHX hats and ride for jazz, way too bright, but the crash sounds really good for it...

My school has an awesome little setup, New-Beat Hi-Hats - awesome, awesome for jazz, 18" HHX crash, and my favorite ride ever, a K-dry custom 20" ride... I love that ride, it's thin but not bright, just an awesome sound for Jazz...

[Seafroggys]

my high school's cymbal setup was awesome for jazz band as well:

14" A Platinum New Beats (favorite hi-hats of all time)
17" K Thin Dark Crash (favorite crash of all time)
20" Vintage A Ride (not my favorite, but still good)

killer jazz setup....

[schvian]

wow, thanks for the info guys, right now i have b8's which arent the best but they r fine for me right now, hell of a lot better than my old solar's too lol, my school has 14" aa hats, 16" thin crash, 16" medium crash, 20" medium ride, i like it, they sound good but im sure some of the ones mentioned sound better

[Double Bass Jim]

my high school's cymbal setup was awesome for jazz band as well:

14" A Platinum New Beats (favorite hi-hats of all time)
17" K Thin Dark Crash (favorite crash of all time)
20" Vintage A Ride (not my favorite, but still good)

killer jazz setup.... Shoulda bought those hats off em!

[Seafroggys]

no kidding, they sounded so good, better than my pair, but I didn't have the money when I graduated. I didn't get my New Beats until September.

[aznriceball]

what the hecko..my post suggesting a customs isnt here..

[styler]

lol abit slow, and since this thread has for the most part been answered..im gonna hijack it...anybody know a canadian dealer that sells istanbul, saluda, meinl cymbals, ive never seen any of those companies cymbals in real life...just paiste zildjian and sabian...:(

[CasB]

Whatever suites your ears will be fine.

[\m/-CHeV-\m/]

Constantinoples anyone ???

yeah.. k constantinople..

[Refl]

K's work great for me.

I miss the working full set I had. :sad:

[Wizz]

Constantinoples anyone ???

I tought so to

[GhostNote]

I tought so to

Yeah, but they cost a heap. didnt the guy specificly say; Not insanelyexpensive???!

[schvian]

Yeah, but they cost a heap. didnt the guy specificly say; Not insanelyexpensive???!

yes that is waht i said, im only a 16 year old in grade 11 with a minimum paid, part-time job lol, but i like how you refer to me is "the guy" haha:P

[Double Bass Jim]

Regular K's and HHX's Trads of course.