Joy Division

[dr._feelgood]

I've been getting really into this band lately. I've heard 3 of their songs, which album should I get first?

[Anxious]

Unknown Pleasures.

[IAJP]

Closer!

But seriously, anything you can get your hands on.

[Jawaharal]

Closer.

[Zappa]

Unknown Pleasures

[Anxious]

Closer is good but some of the songs are too synthy for their own good, and some just suck. But the rest of the songs are gold.

[Cloud013]

Substance

Yes, it's a compilation but the songs on there aren't found on either of their full length LPs. Plus it contains what are probably Joy Division's three best songs (Love Will Tear Us Apart, Atmosphere, and Transmission). I got both Unknown Pleasures and Closer first, I was a fan, but I didn't fully love Joy Division until I bought Substance.

[Jacaranda]

Unknown Pleasures has She's Lost Control and Interzone.

[Daniel!]

Definately Unknown Pleasures. I started with that and got Closer next, and thats the only way to go.

[marcusthecat]

I think either album is good or you could get I believe it's called permanent or something, it's like their greatest hits cd.

[br3ad_man]

They're really quite overrated. I respect their importance, but I just don't think their songwriting and sound are all that great. I enjoy Substance from time to time, but I rarely listen to Closer. I should probably get Unknown Pleasures next time it's on the $10 table.

[Midnight]

What is disorder from?

Thats a ****ing leet song.

[Daniel!]

What is disorder from?

Thats a ****ing leet song.
It's the first track on Unknown Pleasures.

[morrissey]

Definitely get Substance first. It's a compilation yeah, but it's an essential one that includes singles not available on the two albums. All you need are the two studio albums, Substance, and the Complete BBC recordings and you're all set with all the JD songs you'll ever need. I have the boxset but it's really not necessary unless you're a big fan or like owning complete discographies.

[Daniel!]

Are any of their live albums worth getting?

[pixiesfanyo]

Are any of their live albums worth getting?

Les Bains Douches 18 December 1979 is quite good

[Dave de Sylvia]

Joy Division are one of those bands who had a few amazing songs and a tonne of near unlistenable ones.

[neal_672]

Joy Division are one of those bands who had a few amazing songs and a tonne of near unlistenable ones.

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If they had better production i think they would be better but half the time all, i can hear is weird ambience and Curtis droning unintelligably. Which is a ral shame because when they're good they're near untouchable in the field.

[Anxious]

"Unlistenable" Joy Division songs are few and far between. I don't know what you mean by that :confused:.

[Zmev]

Unknown Pleasures

[br3ad_man]

Joy Division are one of those bands who had a few amazing songs and a tonne of near unlistenable ones.

Indeed.

[neal_672]

"Unlistenable" Joy Division songs are few and far between. I don't know what you mean by that :confused:.

Unlistenable - See Rubbish

Just opinion of course but i find some of them like i said to be droning nothingness.

[Luxor]

A need a Joy Division album.

[EightMilesHigh]

Pssst....if you like Joy Division, check out Gang Of Four.

[Anxious]

Gang of Four are like a more upbeat Joy Division.

[Zappa]

And then check out Bauhaus, who are like a more pissed off Joy Division.

[marcusthecat]

Pssst....if you like Joy Division, check out Gang Of Four.

I agree. I love gang of four. I'd say they're not only more upbeat but also a bit more punkier. i guess you could say.

[Sacksy]

discography lahl
and warsaw
and the new order discography

[BassInstinct]

And then check out Bauhaus, who are like a more pissed off Joy Division.
i never got round to checking them out properly, but i always loved Bella Legosi Dead. i find it really haunting and bleak. very bass heavy too.


JD are amongst my favourite bands of all time. IMO their best album is closer because it had the most feeling, it had a subtle interplay between synths and guitars, and it has my fave JD song of all time - decades. the ending to that song just makes me feel so sad.

[asymm]

Start from the beginning with Unknown Pleasures. It's a brilliant record, one of my all time favorites. Then get Closer, then Substance ... or - you could skip all of this and get most of it at once by obtaining the Heart and Soul boxset. It's great.

[A Spoonful Supreme]

Substance

Yes, it's a compilation but the songs on there aren't found on either of their full length LPs. Plus it contains what are probably Joy Division's three best songs (Love Will Tear Us Apart, Atmosphere, and Transmission). I got both Unknown Pleasures and Closer first, I was a fan, but I didn't fully love Joy Division until I bought Substance.
It's missing some good ones though, like Disorder.

[masada]

I used to hate Joy Division until I started to actually listen to Closer more, recently.

[A Spoonful Supreme]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_%282006_film%29
http://www.controlthemovie.com/index.php

You guys know this is coming out?

[EightMilesHigh]

If that's done well, it could be awesome.

[masada]

There are a couple of movies like that being made.

[br3ad_man]

"Atmosphere" is such a good song.

[team_racket]

disorder was the first song i heard by them. just go buy both albums and substance. then buy substance by new order. all those cds really are dirt cheap these days.

they did have some scratchy recordings, but i really love the sound of unknown pleasures. drenched in reverb. martin hannet did a good job.

[BassInstinct]

just go buy both albums and substance
there's no point in buying substance after closer and unknown pleasures because sustance is a compilation album that contains tracks from both those albums.

[team_racket]

there's no point in buying substance after closer and unknown pleasures because sustance is a compilation album that contains tracks from both those albums.

yeah not entirely. its worth it alone for 'love will tear us apart'.

[Horrorshow34]

I really should get into this band too. I've been putting off listening to them since I heard 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' years ago

[The_Passenger]

I've always thought Joy Division were pretty good. I mostly enjoy them, but I can't stand some of their songs. Atmosphere is one I just plain don't like.

[Matt OH!]

i love joy division but i have a really hard time listen to their albums.

a few songs and i'm done.

[Anxious]

I think I like Closer better than Unknown Pleasures now.

[Little Man being Erased]

I could never get into Closer. It's just not that great. I might give Unknown Pleasures a chance one day. Maybe.

[Matt OH!]

i wish all their songs were as catchy as love will tear us apart.

i can listen to that song over and over again, but a lot of their songs get very grating.

i do find that unknown pleasures is a lot less grating then their other releases.

[Dog]

I could never get into Closer. It's just not that great. I might give Unknown Pleasures a chance one day. Maybe.
I'm urging you to get Unknown Pleasures. It kills Closer.

[br3ad_man]

I will be listening to Closer at my desk tonight as part of a religion assignment on suffering.

[Little Man being Erased]

I'm urging you to get Unknown Pleasures. It kills Closer.
Yeah that's the push I needed. I'll look out for it for cheap.

[Spoonful]

Have you guys seen 24 Hour Party People? Ian Curtis was portrayed rather strangely in that film.

[br3ad_man]

Good movie. I don't really know about Curtis' portrayal. Not how I would have expected, I suppose.

[Spoonful]

Yeah he really seemed like a douche.

[Little Man being Erased]

Great film. And his portrayal did seem a little odd.

[Cygnus Inter Anates]

Should've been in this movie:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0125909/

[Greg Ginn]

Great film, I thought he was portrayed ok but I don't now much about him so I wouldn't really know.

[Spoonful]

Should've been in this movie:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0125909/
I don't get it :(

[EightMilesHigh]

I don't get it :(

psst...

Ian Curtis hung himself.

[Little Man being Erased]

Yeah, but the movie is called The Man They Could Not Hang. Doesn't make sense.


Maybe a movie called The Man Who Hung Himself would have been more appropriate.

[Spoonful]

psst...
Ian Curtis hung himself.
Psst... I like to whisper too.

See: Little Man Being Erased's post.

[bleep_bloop]

Anything works, but I would go with Unknown Pleasures first, then Closer, and then any of their other odd albums.