thinking of a new bass.....

[oathfbass]

Ok I cant think of a bass,amp, and multi effect pedal I would want to buy once I get a job.
The styles I like playing mostly would be like post-hardcore, metalcore,hardcore, and I wanna learn some jazz.Any recommendations?
Thanks

[kilian]

What kind of setup do you have right now then?

[JBass]

5-string warwick

[oathfbass]

What kind of setup do you have right now then?
a no name bass(not good tone) and a 50 watt no name amp(the feed back is horrible especially when i turn it up), and an orion bass distortion pedal

[bottlerocket]

For post hardcore and hardcore, the bass of choice is usually a Fender P or J bass. Either should get the job done.

Because you play jazz, too, I'd reccomend the Jazz bass with an amp that'll get you a lot of low end punch and growl: Gallien Krueger.

Any sort of GK amp with a Fender J should be versatile enough for metalcore/hardcore and jazz.

If you've got cash to spend, another bass that's popular in the scene is the Musicman Stingray, for obvious reasons. I'd reccomend one of those, too.

:thumb:

-Gav

[sixner]

^This guy speaks truth... i'd go more or the stingray though... and if it wasn't for the jazz part, perhap a high-end BC Rich..

-Sixner

[bottlerocket]

^ Yeah, but a Stingray is expensive. I've seen He is Legend at least 5 times, and their bassist always used Ampeg. The bassist from Funeral for a Friend uses a Stingray, as do a lot of other metalcore bassists: Converge, etc.

A Stingray + Ampeg would be great, too.

:thumb:

-Gav

[sixner]

yeah but the ampeg is more expensive :lol:

i prefer GK to Ampeg, but ampeg is still nice. *hugs B2R*
-sixner

[HELLonWHEELS]

what about a vintage ampeg

[bottlerocket]

^ GK >>>>>>>>> Ampeg

I love my GK...

I don't think a Warwick would work well in posthardcore/hardcore. Since almost no one here listens to actual hardcore, the bass needs to attack and be trebly and punchy. A Warwick is mainly growl/low end. It's a great bass, don't get me wrong, but I'd rather have a Stingray or a Fender P when playing for a band like Guns Up! or Modern Life is War or something...

Same with Converge, He is Legend, etc.; I just think a Stingray would get the job done way better than a Warwick ever could.

:thumb:

-Gav

[oathfbass]

For post hardcore and hardcore, the bass of choice is usually a Fender P or J bass. Either should get the job done.

Because you play jazz, too, I'd reccomend the Jazz bass with an amp that'll get you a lot of low end punch and growl: Gallien Krueger.

Any sort of GK amp with a Fender J should be versatile enough for metalcore/hardcore and jazz.

If you've got cash to spend, another bass that's popular in the scene is the Musicman Stingray, for obvious reasons. I'd reccomend one of those, too.

:thumb:

-Gav
how much low end does a sting ray have?and arent thier more types of sting rays?

[sixner]

Gav - i like some hardcore,metalcore,(insertword)core.... i agree a warwick wouldn't suit that scene....

oath - stingray is a musicman model... they also have sub's, stingray 5's, sterling's, bongo's, ect.... stringrays are just most common.... but for good reason.

-sixner

[oathfbass]

O ok i was just looking at the site whats the diff between a stingray.S.U.B, and a sterling?

[Led_Zeppelin678]

I'm really GASing for a Bongo lately...if only the came with maple fretboards :(.

[bottlerocket]

how much low end does a sting ray have?and arent thier more types of sting rays?

Stingrays = a LOT of low end. :p

No, there's no other types of Stingrays, but there are other types of Musicman basses:

OLP: Co-owned by Spector and Musicman, this bass is a very cheap, affordable version of the Stingray. It's an OK bass, but I'd rather this one:

Musicman S.U.B.: This bass is the affordable version of the Stingray. The differences between the SUB and the actual Ray are cosmetic, mainly; the SUB has a different pickguard, paint job, etc. The only "tonal" difference is the wood. SUBs are made of poplar wood, I believe, but the electronics and pickup are the same. It's an amazing bass for the price, but I'd still rather the Stingray.

The close cousin of the Stingray is the Musicman Sterling. It's a bit more expensive and has a few differences, namely;

1- Slimmer in shape
2- 3-way coil tap switch
3- Phantom coil
4- Different tones

It's not as low-end focused as the Stingray, but it's an amazing bass. I can get more tones out of it than the Ray, so I like the Sterling a bit more.

:thumb:

-Gav

[LewsTherin]

O ok i was just looking at the site whats the diff between a stingray.S.U.B, and a sterling?


theyre all basically the same. SUBs are cheaper stringrays. Sterlings have a different (slightly) body shape, and maybe the option of bigger eqs?

[Led_Zeppelin678]

Stingrays = a LOT of low end.

*cough*TONYLEVIN*cough*

[Radiobass81]

Gav: I actually prefer a P to a J for Jazz...

And the Stingray doesn't have that much low-end. Or maybe I'm just used to P's :p.

[oathfbass]

ok,thanks,what would be a goood multii fx pedal to go along with it?
how good is the tone on an OLP?

[Radiobass81]

theyre all basically the same. SUBs are cheaper stringrays. Sterlings have a different (slightly) body shape, and maybe the option of bigger eqs?

SUBs are the cheaper models.

Sterlings have a thinner neck than a Stingray, and a different body shape. They also have a "3-way" phantom-coil switch.

[Radiobass81]

ok,thanks,what would be a goood multii fx pedal to go along with it?
how good is the tone on an OLP?
From what I've heard: Good tone, horrible basses.

[bottlerocket]

ok,thanks,what would be a goood multii fx pedal to go along with it?
how good is the tone on an OLP?

The tone of an OLP is alright...it's not a fantastic bass, but it's fairly decent for the price. I think $550 could cover it easily.

I'd rather save an extra hundred or something and get the SUB; I don't think they're more than $600 (used), and it's a huge step up from the OLP.

:thumb:

-Gav

[Radiobass81]

There's actually a (used) S.U.B for $500 on BassNW. Get that :thumb:.

[bottlerocket]

^ Nice find, Radio.

That's community right there. :)

:thumb:

-Gav

[Jimbobntnr]

Good price on the sub.
but, nothing says versatility like a fender jazz.

[Radiobass81]

Jonly: When you refer to versatility, do you mean "blend in any situation" or "able to have many different tones"?

The P is used on much more types of music than a J...

[Jimbobntnr]

Jonly: When you refer to versatility, do you mean "blend in any situation" or "able to have many different tones"?

The P is used on much more types of music than a J...
I mean that I can get two completely different tones and everything in the middle, which allows me to blend into any situation. So, yeah.
personal preference kept me away from the P's after owning one. Great bass but I personally prefer the jazz

[oathfbass]

isnt a fender big block precision bass suppose to be like a stringray,but without active electronics?

[Radiobass81]

I've heard the Big Block is active, actually. AND it has a pickup-switch, to go from humbucker to single-coil. I've heard the single-coil setting can actually sound quite like a P.

I've heard the Big Block sounds like a Stingray, but with more bite and less "umph".

But, alas, this is all word of mouth. I have yet to play one.

[Jody LeCompte]

My little cousin plays a P bass through a fender rumble. His tone is seriously mean...

[Radiobass81]

All P's are mean :cool:.

I'm... not getting one, though.

[oathfbass]

are digitechs and bosses good pedals?

[Radiobass81]

... Yes.

Did you decide on a bass?

[Jimbobntnr]

... Yes.

Did you decide on a bass?
I hope not... unless he's been posting from a music store between trying basses out.

[Radiobass81]

You know what I mean :p.

[Jody LeCompte]

That'd be so neat, a music store/internet cafe/starbucks

[Jimbobntnr]

buying things mail order, based solely on input from internet forums - could you imagine what your house and the things in it would look like?

[Radiobass81]

Well, he could atleast decide on what basses to look into a bit more, which si what I meant :rolleyes:.

[oathfbass]

yeah i decided to look more into a jazz,stingray, or sub. and i need to find some more info aboit gk amps and ampeg

[Jody LeCompte]

I love GK stacks, but their combos always left something to be desired..

[oathfbass]

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=bass/search/detail/base_pid/603067/

is this good?

[Jimbobntnr]

Well, he could atleast decide on what basses to look into a bit more, which si what I meant :rolleyes:.
yeah, I know. I am just messing with you.

[Jody LeCompte]

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=bass/search/detail/base_pid/603067/

is this good?
I got to play one of those the other day, made my Ibanez sound quite lovely.

[oathfbass]

does guitar center usually carry music mans?

[bottlerocket]

^ Yeah...the one near me, anyway. It has a wall full of 'em.

:thumb:

-Gav

[LewsTherin]

does guitar center usually carry music mans?

yes. they typically have their own chunk of wall, from what ive seen.

[LewsTherin]

^ Yeah...the one near me, anyway. It has a wall full of 'em.

:thumb:

-Gav


MA crew ftw.


which one do you go to again?

[bottlerocket]

^ Danvers or Boston...you?

:thumb:

-Gav

[LewsTherin]

^ Danvers or Boston...you?

:thumb:

-Gav


Natick.


Its hella far away though. They all are. So Im stuck going to shops in Worcester.

[doodooking]

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=bass/search/detail/base_pid/603067/

is this good?

what head are you gonna drive that with?

[oathfbass]

what head are you gonna drive that with?
idk what should i get?

[Jimbobntnr]

Gk.

[kilian]

I really liked that particular ampeg 210 cabinet!

I would DISAGREE with ANY ampeg head on top of it. The most ampeg head + ampeg cab setups I've played sounded like bloody mud. Or the tubes were all gone, but they seriously sounded bad.

A peavey Tmax + ampeg 210 might make an interesting combination. I loved my peavey over an ampeg 210. Great mids to cut through and still the growl and clarity of the peavey. You can pick a peavey Tmax or something like that up for 300/400. The Mark IV I use (also a great, great amp) goes for 200.

[tim_commerfordism]

Ampeg = overpriced.
I love GK, but for a good GK head its gonna put you back a lot of money.

Im no professional on the Genre, but if you want versatility get the jazz. Also look at the S.U.B. Sterling. The Sterling also has a thinner neck than the Stingray, and doesnt have a control plate.

[kilian]

Ampeg = overpriced.

WAY over priced to be correct. That's why I'm going to get another cabinet. But that doesn't take away that their cabinets can sound good sometimes :thumb:

[tim_commerfordism]

WAY over priced to be correct. That's why I'm going to get another cabinet. But that doesn't take away that their cabinets can sound good sometimes :thumb:

Exactly. I love the heads, hate the cabs. Plus they just look like fridges.


/all 810's do :p

[tim_commerfordism]

idk what should i get?

Why dont you go to the music store and check em out?

[kilian]

Exactly. I love the heads, hate the cabs. Plus they just look like fridges.


/all 810's do :p
:lol:

You're totally the opposite of me. What don't you like about the cabinets?

[Alma]

Ampeg = overpriced.
I love GK, but for a good GK head its gonna put you back a lot of money.

Im no professional on the Genre, but if you want versatility get the jazz. Also look at the S.U.B. Sterling. The Sterling also has a thinner neck than the Stingray, and doesnt have a control plate.

A GK won't set you back that much. 700RB-II, $600 US maybe?

Can't go past GK's for bang for your buck.

[blizzard]

I would probably go for the GK, but really you should try as many amps as you can because one may surprise you.

As for pedals, boss and digitech make decent multieffects. STAY AWAY FROM ZOOM, horrible horrible construction.

As for basses any Fender or Musicman, maybe even a higher end Ibanez. BUt once again try before you buy.

[Alma]

I would probably go for the GK, but really you should try as many amps as you can because one may surprise you.

As for pedals, boss and digitech make decent multieffects. STAY AWAY FROM ZOOM, horrible horrible construction.

As for basses any Fender or Musicman, maybe even a higher end Ibanez. BUt once again try before you buy.

Yes stay away from older Zoom's, but the new Zoom's that have just been released are awesome.

[tim_commerfordism]

:lol:

You're totally the opposite of me. What don't you like about the cabinets?

They are just so normal. Loads of bass players use them..Ampeg 810's..

Mind you i would love one, but it would have to look different. Well i dont mind 1 or 2, its just when people get 20 (and only 2 are real)...bah..

[tim_commerfordism]

A GK won't set you back that much. 700RB-II, $600 US maybe?

Can't go past GK's for bang for your buck.

Ah right, i was under the impression it was all expensive stuff apart from the backline.

Cheers.

[tim_commerfordism]

Yes stay away from older Zoom's, but the new Zoom's that have just been released are awesome.

New zooms? :naughty:
BTW you should try the old Ultra Fuzz that they brought out in the 80's. Totally ace quality things. But yeah their MFX completely suck.

I mean i dislike Digitech and Boss stuff aswell. I just hate getting all the stuff most people have.

EDIT: Hattrick ftw

[Alma]

^ Yeah. GK's stuff is very cheap except for the 2001 head and the RBH cabs.

Can't go past a 1001RB-II for bang for your buck.

New Zoom's baby!

[tim_commerfordism]

^ Yeah. GK's stuff is very cheap except for the 2001 head and the RBH cabs.

Can't go past a 1001RB-II for bang for your buck.

New Zoom's baby!

Aye i love the OD on the 1001.

Meh its still digital i see..i hate digitial. :p

[Alma]

Fair enough.

Hows that rick treating you?

[tim_commerfordism]

Fair enough.

Hows that rick treating you?

I love it so much. I must have played it 10 hours yesterday. :eek:

[Alma]

You'll eff your wrist like i did playing my ray for hours on end :D

Worth it though :smoke:

[Bass_swede]

how good is the tone on an OLP?


I have owned one for just about a year and I really like that bass. Especially the tone. It is very meaty for a passive bass but you can still get some great trebly tones from it. It's great for all types of playing, slap, fingerstyle, pick and tapping.

The quality could be better, I have changed the nut and a bridge saddle is on it's way, the electronics has ****ed up aswell and it has been in the shop for months now (because they are a ****-shop though). But I think that's just stuff that happen, maybe i'm just not that careful with it, but it sure can take some abuse.

[Low_End_Communications]

Say No to Ampeg! For a good Ampeg tone, you gotta buy either a vintage head or one of their most expensive high end modern rigs. And that amount of money could be spent on two even more versatile rigs.

If you want a big, punchy, wooly Ampeg-ish tone, go with Ashdown. Hartke is also decent. For the money, you can't go wrong with a pre+power amp set-up. Shroeder cabs are highly recommended.

[TakeThePowerBack]

Gav: I actually prefer a P to a J for Jazz...

And the Stingray doesn't have that much low-end. Or maybe I'm just used to P's :p.

I get tons of low-end out of my Ray, I guess it all depends on the amp and settings.

[Radiobass81]

I finally played a Ray, and I thought they didn't have enough low-end...

Then again, I played it after a Schecter Studio...