Sabian vs Wuhan

[phobiaholic]

I need a new ride, and I have a very low budget. What would be better? a Wuhan Trad. ride or a Sabian B8 ride? Why?

Also any other suggestions, my budget: $106.

My current plans are to buy a Sabian B8 Ride (or Wuhan Trad ride) - $77 then order a Wuhan Splash -$20. Then buy my guitar stompbox.

[BetweenTheEchoes]

I can't say anything about the Wuhan, but Sabian B8's suck ***. So I'm assuming the Wuhan is at least slightly more decent.

If you are on a budget and need the cheap stuff, I'd suggest like PLanet Z's. Considering the price they sound ok.

[phobiaholic]

I can't say anything about the Wuhan, but Sabian B8's suck ***. So I'm assuming the Wuhan is at least slightly more decent.

If you are on a budget and need the cheap stuff, I'd suggest like PLanet Z's. Considering the price they sound ok.

I've researched (and heard a little) about these cymbals, and they don't seem very good, any details about them that would sway my vote?

[Cocaberry]

You should probably save up some more money. $200 at Massmusic will get you a good ride from a professional line of cymbals. B8 and Z's are both beginner cymbals and sound like crap.

[phobiaholic]

Well, I'm using an 18" Paiste pst3 crash/ride. And it sounds terrible, I want to get a 20" ride so it can at least be heard.

[FockerTheLopper]

Seriously, save 100 more and get a pro cymbal.

[Cocaberry]

Yeah but a B8 ride or a Z ride may sound worse. I don't know anything about Wuhans so I can't say about that trad ride. $106 is not enough for a good ride. Just stay with the paiste crash/ride for now. Even if you go out and buy a cheap b8 ride thats money wasted when you want to upgrade to an AAX or an A custom later on.

[Starship]

I say save a hundred, but if you insist on buying a ride now check out used cymbals maybe. Don't settle for a B8!

[FockerTheLopper]

www.cymbalsonly.com they have a used HHX raw bell ride for $200 go there and put it on reserve(its under used cymbals) get like 100 more dollars and your set for life. They also have a wide array of instanbul's and bosphorus cymbals(I feel like I'm the spokesmen awsome!)

[Tim]

up your budget to $200 and order from massmusic. youll thank me later.

[phobiaholic]

Alright I'll be smart, take all of your advice and save. Yay!

[FockerTheLopper]

Alright I'll be smart, take all of your advice and save. Yay!
Go put the HH raw bell dry ride on reserve, go listen first they have audio, but I'm sure that you'll like it

[CasB]

Well...if you're short on cash you could go for wome wuhans. But you really have to pick them really carefully cause some cymbals are beauties and others are crap.

[phobiaholic]

Go put the HH raw bell dry ride on reserve, go listen first they have audio, but I'm sure that you'll like it

I love it, but how do you put it on reserve?

[FockerTheLopper]

I love it, but how do you put it on reserve?
I have no clue... I still didn't order anything from there. I guess you can call the people they have a number on the page and tell them that you have 100 and your saving up for it and tell them to put it on hold for you, I saw other cymbals on hold so you can do it too.

[phobiaholic]

I have no clue... I still didn't order anything from there. I guess you can call the people they have a number on the page and tell them that you have 100 and your saving up for it and tell them to put it on hold for you, I saw other cymbals on hold so you can do it too.

Nevermind I e-mailed them, I think I've got it though.

[Sharkey Boy]

Sabian all the way

[The Leper Messiah]

HH Raw Bell Dry Ride is an awesome ride, you won't be disappointed. Also look into the A and A Custom Ping Rides, great cymbals.

[-Taye-]

Don't have sabian but i don't hav e them yet i'm getting some soon.My drum teacher has them and i always use them and i love them.

[aznriceball]

Sabian all the way

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/aznriceball/BASH/f_The_answer.jpg

no. not all the way to solars.

[Brokensticks]

Saving up is the best thing to do when it comes to cymbals, you end up saving more money in the long run and I can tell you it's well worth it.

[Damo]

I can't say anything about the Wuhan, but Sabian B8's suck ***. So I'm assuming the Wuhan is at least slightly more decent.

If you are on a budget and need the cheap stuff, I'd suggest like PLanet Z's. Considering the price they sound ok.
I find it strange you rip on B8's then go on to applaud Planet Z's in the same sentence.

Wuhan are cheap because the metal is not as durable and they are made in countries where the labour cost is significantly lower. There is nothing wrong with Sabian B8's if you are buying at that pricepoint. They offer a decent sound, decent durability, and a wide range.

[aznriceball]

^ maybe he meant that if u were gonna go cheap, go rock bottom cheap (which i think planet Zs are)

although..i think u can go lower. u can always buy pearl/camber/tama/yamaha/adam cymbals. egh

[FockerTheLopper]

u can always buy pearl/camber/tama/yamaha/adam cymbals. egh
No, you can't

[Motleyguy]

^^^I agree, those brands are quite terrible.

[FockerTheLopper]

^^^I agree, those brands are quite terrible.
No, I'm not saying that they're horrible, I'm just saying you'd have to be smoking some sort of laced crackrocks to even consider wasting as much as a penny on those big metal circles(please don't call them cymbals, thats all drummers have left)

[Double Bass Jim]

Wuhan trad ride, they make a real nice 22" model too.

[Parradiddle Pete]

I have the B* 20" ride and Ithink it sounds ok, i've heard most of the other cheaper rides and this one is best IMHO but i would say save up for pro cymbals, its easier that way

[Josiah]

www.cymbalsonly.com they have a used HHX raw bell ride for $200


Rip off.

Used cymbals should automatically be half the price of new ones, let alone not being able to inspect or hear it first.


The Wuhans are awesome cymbals for the price, however you don't want to be bashing on them too hard. If you're not a smasher, everything should be cool.

Jim's trad ride sound amazing for the price, I'd personally take the Wuhan's myself.

[Aaron]

20" Wuhan Ride, 12" China

[xX_selkiesteo_Xx]

i got a B8 pro that came with my old set like... a long time ago... its good enough for just jamming, but i would save and buy something that youll actually like, cuz if you waste 100 on a cheap cymbal, then your gonna have to save even longer for a better one....

im gonna purchase an AA metal X myself, cuz i like the HUGE bell, and how it sounds....... actually... im getting a whole set of AA metal X (20"ride, 19"crash, 16"crash, 10"splash, and 14" hats), cuz they are great

SABIAN= PURE GREAT ASSNESS

[phobiaholic]

20" Wuhan Ride, 12" China

I've got the 12" china. :cool:

[FockerTheLopper]

Rip off.

Used cymbals should automatically be half the price of new ones, let alone not being able to inspect or hear it first.


The Wuhans are awesome cymbals for the price, however you don't want to be bashing on them too hard. If you're not a smasher, everything should be cool.

Jim's trad ride sound amazing for the price, I'd personally take the Wuhan's myself.
Umm... No, I don't know where your from but over here if you can find something for that cheap in that good condition you should be happy. As for not being able to hear it thats the whole reason I like that site, you get the hear the accuall cymbal not a stock recording of it.

I've got the 12" china. :cool:
I think anyone who's been playing for over a year does.

[Josiah]

Umm... No, I don't know where your from but over here if you can find something for that cheap in that good condition you should be happy.



$200 for a USED ride is NOT cheap.

Perhaps in Australia or some other country where cymbal prices tend to be very high.


I could walk into any GuitarCenter and nab that ride new for around $240

[aznriceball]

its hard for sellers to drop it to half sometimes. i had my aax dark crash for a mere 2 months and when i tried to take it back to massmusic they offered half so i sold it on ebay for about 30USD less than i payed for it. better offer imo

[gabbahey there we go]

for the chinas wuhan is the way to go for a budget... im not sure about the ride

sabians are generally better, or so far as ive heard, but more money

SAVE UP MORE itll be so much easier

[Aaron]

1. theres nothing wrong with a well looked after used cymbal, some people prefer played in cymbals ie. jim

2. dont ever buy intermediate/beginner just because your feeling impulsive now, you'll regret it.

3. wuhan are not intermediate, just because they're not one of the top-3 doesn't mean they're arse. so i'd suggest try some wuhans and if you like them, buy those particular cymbals [hand-hammered, individual]

[thatdrummerguy]

I own a 20" b8 ride and it sounds surprisingly good.

[phobiaholic]

1. theres nothing wrong with a well looked after used cymbal, some people prefer played in cymbals ie. jim

2. dont ever buy intermediate/beginner just because your feeling impulsive now, you'll regret it.

3. wuhan are not intermediate, just because they're not one of the top-3 doesn't mean they're arse. so i'd suggest try some wuhans and if you like them, buy those particular cymbals [hand-hammered, individual]


What I want to know is how I could try out any Wuhans, no stores around me carry them, ever.

[The Ska Man]

They also have a wide array of instanbul's and bosphorus cymbals(I feel like I'm the spokesmen awsome!)

Welcome to my world. Towels are on the table next to the pool. Dinner is served at 8:15.

[dbl_bass_drmr_Jirvy]

Wuhans are great....

I do think that B8s arent that great in the long run...

thats if your Wuhan doesnt brake ....

[Double Bass Jim]

Wuhan makes a quality cymbal, the trads are killer!

[dbl_bass_drmr_Jirvy]

Yeah... I have yet to break nor dent my 18" Wuhan China... and I usually hit that thing hard...

and I got it off Ebay..... Wuhan is your best bet if you are really eager to get another cymbal and dont have much money...

[aznriceball]

darn straight. i just got a 12" wuhan splash off ebay for like 9USD shipped. the thing is darker than the cabinet under my sink and just as trashy

[phobiaholic]

I'm checking out ebay, and wanna know what the differences are between the S series and Trad Rides.

How does that splash sound, I was looking at ordering a 10".

[phobiaholic]

Bump?

[FockerTheLopper]

$200 for a USED ride is NOT cheap.

Perhaps in Australia or some other country where cymbal prices tend to be very high.


I could walk into any GuitarCenter and nab that ride new for around $240
Well, good luck finding that used ride, you hear sound clips(if you did) it sounds AMAZING

[xX_selkiesteo_Xx]

I'm checking out ebay, and wanna know what the differences are between the S series and Trad Rides.

How does that splash sound, I was looking at ordering a 10".

ive only used the s series, and let me tell ya, these cymbals are negative good...

and to that person who said 200 is too muich for a used ride... it depends on what type of ride it is, and if you like it enough...

[SkaRabbit]

WOOOOHANN. Sorry. When it comes to Sabian. you should look at sabian pro/pro sonix maybe b8PRo and higher. but wuhan are better cymbals

[phobiaholic]

ive only used the s series, and let me tell ya, these cymbals are negative good...

and to that person who said 200 is too muich for a used ride... it depends on what type of ride it is, and if you like it enough...

Trads > S series?

[aznriceball]

i like trads, seem alot darker imo but the S have their place, also very bright and trashy. u still have to try em individually

[phobiaholic]

i like trads, seem alot darker imo but the S have their place, also very bright and trashy. u still have to try em individually

How?

[SkaRabbit]

i wanna get a petition of Email adresses from the uk guys on here to send into ADCdrums and other such places to start stocking wuhans.

[Double Bass Jim]

The trad wuhans have impressed me the most.

The remind me of the "old" K's.

[tony07]

Yes, I think in the long run B8s might not 'be the answer.
I own a B8 ride, and I find nothing wrong with it.
I don't understand why everyone is bashing it. umm. Probably because it is the cheapest series offered by Sabian it is bashful.
I haven't regret thus far.
But yes, I would go for something better IF you truly know what you really want.

[Meridian91]

Out of the two.. the wuhan

But most likely I 100% of people in there right mind would save more and get a great ride that will last

[zfmt]

Wuhan trad are made from b20 bronze. same as some 200$+ sabian and zildjian cymbals. I just bought a wuhan trad ride, its great, I also have a wuhan 12" china. If they were the same price as a Zildjian K cust people would probably say they were better with out actually hearing them... not sure if that made sence, but do NOT get the B8 ride get the wuhan.