scales to arpeggios?

[Bassinator89]

I'm just wondering if thers a certain pattern an arpeggio follow with its particular scale, or if each scale has different arpeggios.

Thanks!:chug:

[rockinbass17]

I'm not clear on you're question, are you asking something like:
Does a C major scale have a certain arpeggio, different from, say, a D major?
If so, then yes.

C Major arpeggio (1 octave): C E G C G E C
D Major arpeggio (1 octave): D F# A D A F# D

[Aukai]

uh...thats a confusing question, Can you please restate it?

[katana_manatee]

I assume you mean what arpeggios are found in a scale?

Take C Major as an example. The triads/arpeggios are:

C Major, D Minor, E Minor, F Major, G Major, A Minor, and B Diminished

So the triad formula for a major scale is as follows:

I: Major, II: Minor, III: Minor, IV: Major, V: Major, VI: Minor, VII: Diminished

For a minor scale:

I: Minor, II: Diminished, III: Major, IV: Minor, V: Minor, VI: Major, VII: Major.

I hope this has helped.

[Bassinator89]

Part of the problem is probably my lack of knowledge :-p

okay, say C major scale has C major arpeggio. Is there a certain pattern found to pick the arpeggio out of the scale? say just for examples sake(don't have my arpeggio book here right now)C major arpeggio is the 1st note, 3rd note, 5th note and 7th note of the C major scale. is that a pattern to follow for every scale? kinda saying the arepggio pattern is 1 3 5 7 of the scale?

[WHoRRID]

if i understand u right then both yes and no... usually its the 1st 3rd and 5th note in the scale. but with something like a maj7 arp. ud need to ad the 7th

i think theyre writen with the relative to the major scale
ie major is 1-3-5
minor is 1-b3-5

[TheBassman238]

If you mean finger patterns then yes they are all the same as in major, minor, diminished, augmented, ect... you just start on a diffrent note, the only time it differs if you are useing open strings... also there are more then one patterns for each kind of scale/arpegio...

Im too lazy to correct spelling right now... its x-mas....

-TBM

[Bassinator89]

okay. I think that helped, I'm not really all that sure myself. hehe, thanks all! merry christmas!

[katana_manatee]

Actually, you are describing a seventh chord/arpeggio. To play a C major arpeggio you would use the root, the third and the fifth of the scale. It has the same shape around the neck although you can use various shapes as long as you use the correct notes.

[Aukai]

Part of the problem is probably my lack of knowledge :-p

okay, say C major scale has C major arpeggio. Is there a certain pattern found to pick the arpeggio out of the scale? say just for examples sake(don't have my arpeggio book here right now)C major arpeggio is the 1st note, 3rd note, 5th note and 7th note of the C major scale. is that a pattern to follow for every scale? kinda saying the arepggio pattern is 1 3 5 7 of the scale?

Since every string is tuned at the same interval, yes, the steps and shapes are always the same. the 1 3 5 7 thing your describing is a 7th chord, like the guy above me said.

[Bassinator89]

Another question, I was wondering why a C major scale starts with an E?:amaze:

[katana_manatee]

Er... It doesn't, it starts on C. Where did ya get that from? :confused:

[Bassinator89]

Er... It doesn't, it starts on C. Where did ya get that from? :confused:


I have mel-bays complete bass scales and under C major its this

E-0-1-2-4
A-0-1-3-4
D-0-1-3-4
G-0-2-4-5(<---I think)

[katana_manatee]

It shows you the notes of the c major scale but not the scale itself. It just shows that you can use all those notes as they are in key. The most common major scale pattern is this:

C Major

G|------------2-4-5
D|-----2-3-5-------
A|-3-5-------------
E|-----------------

Now that ^ is a c major scale. Your book is a confusing one, although it is correct it should show you the scale starting on C, otherwise it is a mode of the scale, a mode being playing the scale from a starting point in the scale. So an E phrygian scale (as shown in your book) is E, F, G, A, B, C, D.

But if what you typed out is in the book then it is wrong, as on the E string it says play the second fret, which is F# which is not in the scale. I'd say get a different book.

[Bassinator89]

Since were having a theory party, would anyone mind tellikng me how you will go about finding the key of s song or what the guitarist or other musician is playing? I asked once before but everyone just gave me the answer, and now I would like to know how I could go about this myself. Everyone, I would like to also say thank you because this is a great help!

[Bassinator89]

:smoke: just giving a little bump, who looks at pg2 anyway?

[rhinestone04]

Since were having a theory party, would anyone mind tellikng me how you will go about finding the key of s song or what the guitarist or other musician is playing? I asked once before but everyone just gave me the answer, and now I would like to know how I could go about this myself. Everyone, I would like to also say thank you because this is a great help!

Well, I assume you mean by looking at the music. If you have sheet music, then a lot of the time (not ALL of the time, but a lot), you can look at the first or last chord or note of the song. You may have to look at the first few notes as it may be an arpegiated melody or something of that nature. There's a lot of little things, really, and you just memorize them so that you can simply look at the song and figure out what the key is. The key signature obviously helps as does keeping in mind major/minor key and the roots of chords and such. If you are just looking at a bunch of chords, you can normally tell by looking at the basic chords (finding the I chord maybe) or figuring out the common key signature that the chords follow through the notes they contain.

I know I kind of just threw some ideas out there, but maybe someone else can explain what I'm trying to say a little better. It's second nature to me since I've been learning piano/western musical theory since the age of 5 (and have been enriched in Indian classical music since younger than that), so I really never got the highly technical explanation of music theory (kind of like being born in America, but having foreign parents and learning your "native tongue"--you can speak it fluently but probably can't teach a college grammar course on it)