I Cannot Stand These People!

[-TheGlassPrison-]

look what these kids are saying on a bmx forum i go on.

AH.

Travis barker is a HORRIBLE drummer/

Pfft, you're an idiot.

Regardless if you like Blink 182 or not, musically, Travis Barker is one of the most talented drummers the music business has to offer.
Yes travis is amazing and anyone that says other wise has no musical background. And he wife is extremely hott i saw her playboy shoot


What do you do!
This is like the worst ive heard it.

[VTDS_xx]

Hahaha.
Everyone knows a hot"t" wife makes you a better drummer.

[crazyguy832]

Pfft, you're all idiots, Travis pwns everyone.

¬_¬

I'm assuming you're BigWheels...

And NEVER talk about drummers with non-drummers... they don't understand what's happening. I've played some stuff (which was pretty nuts for me) for some people I know, and they were bored. I started randomly hitting toms (no time, no nothing), and they thought it was awesome.

'nuff said

[Tang.]

One of the books I own (begginner "how to" type book) even says when making a solo play fast and hit alot of stuff because the crowd will flip simply because it looks cool.. now not that I do that but..hey its true, it does get crowd response... just like in marching band..(or the movie drumline..ew) you have bands that want to be musically correct and others will just play things for a crowd response.. we've had bands come in horrible as *** playing brittany spears etc while our band (old director used to direct a drum corp) did Birdland..of course musically we were better, but they got better crowd response, because un-educated people don't get music.. they just see something cool as playing fast and hitting hard..its sad but true..

[Brokensticks]

I agree, it's better to get the crowd pumped by just hitting random things fast, but start going into a musical solo after they're pumped so you have some pride.

[LittlePound]

or how about...you be musical about hitting things loud and fast:thumb:

[ChrisD]

Tarvis is horrible.But I don't think he has alot of musical training.....

[White]

Pfft, you're all idiots, Travis pwns everyone.

¬_¬

I'm assuming you're BigWheels...

And NEVER talk about drummers with non-drummers... they don't understand what's happening. I've played some stuff (which was pretty nuts for me) for some people I know, and they were bored. I started randomly hitting toms (no time, no nothing), and they thought it was awesome.

'nuff said

Ya Are exactly Right about that, Non-drummers piss the hell out of me when they try to say there favorite drummer is better than someone like Portnoy or peart when its like a pop Drummer, its sickening.

[White]

Tarvis is horrible.But I don't think he has alot of musical training.....

well, I dis-agree with ya on that, I think hes good, (technicality wise) but ya, he probably knows a fair amount of drum stuff, im not stickin up for him, I just tihnk your wrong on that lol

[-TheGlassPrison-]

man theres a god damned edit button

[White]

shhhhhhh, that will be our little secret

[-TheGlassPrison-]

no man

[PandaDrummer]

Travis is a good drummer...he's got great chops and he made blink 182 what it is ,thats all , he's an Icon...people hype him up like crazy but contrary to popular belief he is a decent drummer

[BrekelmansInAbsentia]

TGP. i just love how you quoted a quote, that has a quote in it, which has a another quote in that. its just...wow, but yah people who dont play an instrument, definitely cant judge the instrument, and barkers alright, i mean, hes good for going from like beginner to intermediate, but hes definitely not THE BEST THING IN THE WHOOOOLE WORLD!!!1111!! O M G O M G O M G

[Sharkey Boy]

Hey could u guys please lay off him

I hope one day I could aspire to be as great as him, I mean have you seen his drum solo? its pure genious and just reeks of attitude, yeah he's one cool guy











...sorry if you missed my blatent sarcasm

God damn I hate kids...and me being one of them , its makes it much harder to deal with

[yourstruly]

Haha Travis Barker bashing topic. YAY!lOL11!!one!!
There's no point saying anything about Barker because, peoples opinion on him are never gonna change.
But yeah, people are stupid. That's life.

[Massik Kretal]

Lay off Barker. Just kill the non musicians. But then musicians would have no audience. So whatever.

[aznriceball]

gotta love nonmusicians. i had to explain to my friend that only listens to hiphop, who actually started to listen to 'rock' said that green day was the most inspirational band and the only one she knows of that speaks politically. ugh

[Double Bass Jim]

All that matters is if YOU are smart enough to know whats good from bad. Who cares what a bunch a retards who have no clue about where their talking about have to say. It means nothing, Zilch absolute ZERO.

[PandaDrummer]

dude i love non musicians...i just get a simple song and blast through it really fast ...and also fills and they're like "OMG HE"S SOO GREAT" and im like "YEAH"....and then i go home and cry cause im really not :ashamed:

[-TheGlassPrison-]

All that matters is if YOU are smart enough to know whats good from bad. Who cares what a bunch a retards who have no clue about where their talking about have to say. It means nothing, Zilch absolute ZERO.
Good point..

[PandaDrummer]

if everyone was musicians there wouldnt be so many genres

[DuckinFutch]

dude i love non musicians...i just get a simple song and blast through it really fast ...and also fills and they're like "OMG HE"S SOO GREAT" and im like "YEAH"....and then i go home and cry cause im really not :ashamed:


haha, that cracked me up

[Seafroggys]

hey standing on your throne really helps getting the crowd worked up....trust me ;)

[Double Bass Jim]

Oh man ^ I can barely get near a throne anymore let alone stand on one!! :lol:

[puppet.master]

Haha Travis Barker bashing topic. YAY!lOL11!!one!!
There's no point saying anything about Barker because, peoples opinion on him are never gonna change.
But yeah, people are stupid. That's life.


isnt your avatar a blink 182 album cover

[moogoogaipan]

I think people put Travis Barker on a pedestal. They place him out of reach with an attitude of 'I can never be as great as him'.
That's why I don't respect him...because I know that he feeds off of that... he's nowhere near any of the greats...
His skill level is attainable, and he knows that but all non-musicians think that he is some prodigy.
Hard work is all it takes...
Hard work is all it takes to get anything accomplished..
I played drums passionately and attentively for 5 years and I have caught up the all the drummers in my area that have played since they were 3.
It's not hard to become good at something, it just takes time and I it's frustrating when someone such as a non-musician takes someone's hard work and makes it seem like genius.
Barker isn't a genius, just a hard worker... get over him.

[Tim]

Oh man ^ I can barely get near a throne anymore let alone stand on one!! :lol:

ha...sucka. jk. :D

[rockindrummer]

All that matters is if YOU are smart enough to know whats good from bad. Who cares what a bunch a retards who have no clue about where their talking about have to say. It means nothing, Zilch absolute ZERO.

So true. Although it does kind of get on my nerves, esspecially reading this while listenin to peart.

[rohbit]

So true. Although it does kind of get on my nerves, esspecially reading this while listenin to peart.


That's where a mallet comes in handy... you can call it the mallet of, "You're a dumbass."

And you can be like ->:smash:

[Det_Nosnip]

You know, I'm sure I can drag up a few million things off of the internet that are worse than people saying that they like Travis Barker. Plexiglass proved that, sure enough...:lol:

Anyways, the point is: nobody forced you to post on that forum, or to read that topic. As Jim said, all that matters is that you know your *** from a hole in the ground, so stick with that, and leave the ignorant to their bliss. For every kid you convert to the cult of Peart, 4 more will scream in some far corner in the world that Barker is the greatest drummer on the planet. It changes nothing.

[yourstruly]

isnt your avatar a blink 182 album cover
Yes. But that's irrelevant.

[ChrisD]

Tarvis is horrible.But I don't think he has alot of musical training.....


That came out wrong.I meant to say that Travis IS NOT horrible.He has done some cool stuff on the Boxcar album.

[master_of_muppets]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH JUST SHUT UP. EVERY TIME I GO ON THIS FORUM I SEE A POST LIKE THIS WE ALL KNOW HES CRAP AND YOU JUST REPEAT THE SAME **** OVER AGAIN " HES GOT NO MUSICAL TRAINING" BLHA BLAH BLAH. "O WAIT ILL DO SOMETHING NEW( IN SARCARSTIC TONE) TRAVIS BARKER PWNS EVERY111nbrfokjMNEAJGD11111SOJMKNAJN":angry: ALL YOU DO IS BITCH ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE, YOUVE GOTTA UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE WONT CHANGE.

[Jezen]

Chill out Ollie.

[master_of_muppets]

I am chilled out, Its just really annoying.

[crazyguy832]

I admire Travis Barker, he's way better than me.

Just like I admire Lars, Joey, and a whole bunch of other drummers.

BUT, I see them as what they are: not the top drummers.

I only get mad when people say that Travis or Lars or Joey or WHOEVER is better than Peart or Portnoy or whoever.

People can be great drummers, but if they're not recognized as the best, you shouldn't say they are.

[Massik Kretal]

I only get mad when people say that Travis or Lars or Joey or WHOEVER is better than Peart or Portnoy or whoever.

I never really heard anyone say that becuase the people who idolize Barker and Jordison don't know bands like Rush and Dream Theater and they don't care about em.

[RushHourSoul]

Plus why would you care anyway, its their opinion. I don't see how you could get mad crazyguy, surely you'd just laugh at their ignorant claims.. just learn to ignore it.

[Massik Kretal]

People get mad becuase they feel insulted becuase they are insulting greats I guess.

[theflame85]

Haha. this reminds me of this little thing on another non-music forum. There was like 4 Polls, like Best guitarist, Drummer, Singer and Bassist ever. the idea was to, in the end be left with a 'dream' band. Lars Ulrich won the drummer one...

[-TheGlassPrison-]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH JUST SHUT UP. EVERY TIME I GO ON THIS FORUM I SEE A POST LIKE THIS WE ALL KNOW HES CRAP AND YOU JUST REPEAT THE SAME **** OVER AGAIN " HES GOT NO MUSICAL TRAINING" BLHA BLAH BLAH. "O WAIT ILL DO SOMETHING NEW( IN SARCARSTIC TONE) TRAVIS BARKER PWNS EVERY111nbrfokjMNEAJGD11111SOJMKNAJN":angry: ALL YOU DO IS BITCH ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE, YOUVE GOTTA UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE WONT CHANGE.


hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
:lol:!

[Massik Kretal]

:lol: Do you remember the other ones?

[Kosmos Tree]

who gives a sh!t? If some 14 old claims hat Barker is the best drummer in the world, so be it, i've better things to do than getting annoyed from that.

Jeez, you people need to relax...

[-TheGlassPrison-]

i dont think everyones flipping out.
theres a select few.
were all relaxed haha.

[Tang.]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH JUST SHUT UP. EVERY TIME I GO ON THIS FORUM I SEE A POST LIKE THIS WE ALL KNOW HES CRAP AND YOU JUST REPEAT THE SAME **** OVER AGAIN " HES GOT NO MUSICAL TRAINING" BLHA BLAH BLAH. "O WAIT ILL DO SOMETHING NEW( IN SARCARSTIC TONE) TRAVIS BARKER PWNS EVERY111nbrfokjMNEAJGD11111SOJMKNAJN":angry: ALL YOU DO IS BITCH ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE, YOUVE GOTTA UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE WONT CHANGE.


*said in psychologist type tone* And how does it make you feel when they do that? Take a while to think it over while I go and get the ink blots.

[Retarded Chipple]

Haha Travis Barker bashing topic. YAY!lOL11!!one!!
There's no point saying anything about Barker because, peoples opinion on him are never gonna change.
But yeah, people are stupid. That's life.


I have actually managed to change the opinions of 3 kids at my college! We were talking about the Transplants.....Barkers drumming skills came up, after I explained to them how he really isn't that good, they were like "hmm, I think you've got a point there".

A few weeks later, I heard the same 3 kids telling some other guys how much Travis sucks! A new world order has begun :rolleyes:

[Jezen]

Spread the word my friend!

[moogoogaipan]

Yeah, if you want to take the time to explain it the non-musicians, they'll listen and spread the word out of ingnorance.
I just don't have the time to tell 50 million people... plus music is usually the last thing that comes up between me and my friends cause we are all were in band together..we'd rather play videogames

[Japan3gro]

I have actually managed to change the opinions of 3 kids at my college! We were talking about the Transplants.....Barkers drumming skills came up, after I explained to them how he really isn't that good, they were like "hmm, I think you've got a point there".

A few weeks later, I heard the same 3 kids telling some other guys how much Travis sucks! A new world order has begun :rolleyes:

Thats actually a bad thing rather than good. They used to like Travis and now they hate him because of what you told them. Best way to go about it is just show them other drummers and let them form their own opinion. If you show any "noob" a vid of Dennis or Vinnie then show them Barker I'm sure they'll take Dennis and Vinnie. My friends act the same way about Dave Grohl.

[Retarded Chipple]

Thats actually a bad thing rather than good. They used to like Travis and now they hate him because of what you told them. Best way to go about it is just show them other drummers and let them form their own opinion. If you show any "noob" a vid of Dennis or Vinnie then show them Barker I'm sure they'll take Dennis and Vinnie. My friends act the same way about Dave Grohl.


People are always complaining about how annoying it is that drummers can never explain to a "noob" that Barker sucks, then in the one rare case that a drummer changes a noobs views, someone comes along and says helping someone see the light is a bad thing!

[RushHourSoul]

Well its not seeing the light... They're going around telling people he sucks, surely thats as bad as saying hes the best since sliced bread, since he is neither.

[Linkinbassist]

Oh man ^ I can barely get near a throne anymore let alone stand on one!! :lol:

why? are you fat...?

[Japan3gro]

It's not seeing the light... your basically telling them your drummers are better than theirs. If you were to talk about punk drummers thats different. They aren't really noobs either... just not exposed. I didn't learn about A LOT of stuff until I came here. Thank god for the internet. Whats even worse is I never see Barker telling people he's a great drummer or the best. But what I do see is people always rippin him.

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

Yeah his drumming ain't so good but it does sound good for what its used for.

It fits the music and thats more important.

[Jezen]

why? are you fat...?

He was almost killed by his throne.

Death by anal impalation.

[Retarded Chipple]

Well its not seeing the light... They're going around telling people he sucks, surely thats as bad as saying hes the best since sliced bread, since he is neither.


When I said they realise he sucks, I meant that in the way that they don't think he's quite so amazing anymore. "Seeing the light" was a bit over the top, I was just trying to get my point across.


Yeah his drumming ain't so good but it does sound good for what its used for.

It fits the music and thats more important.


Actually, I think he overplays quite alot. Most of the time he puts over complicated beats in a song where a simple beat would fit in alot better. Thats just the way it comes across to me when I listen.

[RushHourSoul]

Yeah definatly, he does overplay A LOT. He does come up with some cool stuff in the process though.

[Double Bass Jim]

He was almost killed by his throne.

Death by anal impalation.
Haha you got it

[givemeaname]

Thats actually a bad thing rather than good. They used to like Travis and now they hate him because of what you told them. Best way to go about it is just show them other drummers and let them form their own opinion. If you show any "noob" a vid of Dennis or Vinnie then show them Barker I'm sure they'll take Dennis and Vinnie. My friends act the same way about Dave Grohl.

I find that Grohl's not overrated skill wise. Just about everyone I know(musicians and non-musicians alike) says he's good, but I don't think I've ever heard anyone claim Grohl to be one of the greatest drummers.

He's one of my favourite drummers by the way. Not just for his drumming, which doesn't make him one of the greats, but I find he's pretty creative and fun. But for his attitude too. He seems to be a very nice guy and down to earth from what I see and hear.

[Linkinbassist]

He was almost killed by his throne.

Death by anal impalation.

ah, okey pokey...Sorry for calling you fat DBJ!

And as for grohl, he's not an amazing drummer or guitarist, he's an amazing musician...The foo fighters are one of the most listenable bands of the 90's and 00's, which says something about daves composing and arranging. Plus, a great live act. My mate went to see them on the 18th, i though she was gonna orgasm, going from the sound of her texts...

[givemeaname]

I never said Grohl was an amazing drummer, just that I really like his drumming. As for his guitar playing, my knowledge of guitars is limited to knowing what I like and don't like. I know nothing about who's talented or not.

And for the Foos, it's not just his arranging. The Foo Fighters may have started out as Dave hiring musicians to play stuff he wrote, but in an interview, it's stated that it's now a callobrative(sp?) effort. Although I've never really liked the Foo Fighters, I agree they're very listenable - I don't mind them and really like a couple of their songs.

[-TheGlassPrison-]

I cant belive i made such a productive thread..

[moogoogaipan]

^^^that post you just made will probably kill it.:smoke:

[Massik Kretal]

He was almost killed by his throne.

Death by anal impalation.

:lol: That would be the worst way to die.

[Jezen]

That or knowing Josiah will die after you.


It's alright. Josiah will rot long before I do.

[rohbit]

why? are you fat...?

LOL... sorry Jim, but it's just the audacity of the comment that got me laughing.

Ahh, the infamous "Jim almost gets impaled by his throne" story... good times :chug:

[filth and fury]

It's sad how everyone says Travis Barker sucks..and he still owns me.
:(

[Massik Kretal]

That or knowing Josiah will die after you.


It's alright. Josiah will rot long before I do.

Did you have a big fight with him or something? I just noticed the user title. :lol:

[Double Bass Jim]

BB I highly doubt you will outlive josiah

[PandaDrummer]

especially when josiah finds out where you live

[aznriceball]

josiahs rich! he could probably hire someone to go spank BB :lol:



http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b188/aznriceball/BASH/cliches_in_thread.jpg

[-TheGlassPrison-]

Yeah, so Travis Barker

[Det_Nosnip]

The foo fighters are one of the most listenable bands of the 90's and 00's, which says something about daves composing and arranging.

No they aren't, and no it wouldn't even if that were true. I personally can't stand the Foo Fighters for more than 2 minute intervals.

[aznriceball]

i love 'the best of you'

it really turns my olives when someone says 'the best' about 68 times

[Josiah]

josiahs rich! he could probably hire someone to go spank BB

Hmm nah, that wouldn't be worth it unless I got to do the spanking.

[styler]

owned

[Jezen]

BB I highly doubt you will outlive josiah

He's been on weed for 10 years, and hes older than me.

I go to the gym twice a week, I eat salad EVERY day (at least a bowl), I don't drink or smoke or do any drugs...



Hmmm.....

[Wizz]

Hmm nah, that wouldn't be worth it unless I got to do the spanking.

You s*ck Josiah , The day has not yet come that i read a post of you without insulting other people , your not better then the rest face it :smash:

[Linkinbassist]

I don't drink or smoke or do any drugs...

mmm...nope, can't believe that...

[Jezen]

And why not?

[Talos]

Ive said this before, Barker may not be the greatest drummer of all time but people like him. I think hes a decent drummer and you can think what you want about me or whoever but hes alot better than guys who think he sucks. Great drummers probably arent botherd about him, just another bog standard drummer, nothing special.

I also like his clothing range :D

[Jezen]

No, great superstar drummers just laugh at him.

[Divine Drummer]

Travis made some kool beats that got me inspired to play the drums, now after a year of playing with a couple of a days of pratise i could learn most of his stuff except the really fast stuff and some things on box car racer. His marching fills are quite kool, i just need to practise my rudiments. Now I look to better drummers for inspiration and i worshipped him like a god when i started. He's good for inspiring people to start playing, and if they are really into it then im sure they'll realize there a betters. I think its starting to come around where i live that to the non musician hes not that good. Theres like a bunch of people from college dissing everything about him, his sticks, Orange County Drums. People just need to stop believing everything they hear and think for themselves whether they like his playing/drums/sticks.

[-TheGlassPrison-]

He's been on weed for 10 years, and hes older than me.

I go to the gym twice a week, I eat salad EVERY day (at least a bowl), I don't drink or smoke or do any drugs...



Hmmm.....



OK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

[Jezen]

People just need to stop believing everything they hear and think for themselves

Wahey! Spot on! Good man.

[Josiah]

He's been on weed for 10 years, and hes older than me.

I go to the gym twice a week, I eat salad EVERY day (at least a bowl), I don't drink or smoke or do any drugs...



Hmmm.....


Wahaha what a closeminded ignorant little fool.


Yes, we can all see how healthy you are in your video. Actually you look rather pale, undernurished and very skiny.

And that's after they say the camera adds 10 lbs.

[Linkinbassist]

And why not?

how old are you?

[rohbit]

Hmm nah, that wouldn't be worth it unless I got to do the spanking.

:eek:

[Tang.]

Wahaha what a closeminded ignorant little fool.


Yes, we can all see how healthy you are in your video. Actually you look rather pale, undernurished and very skiny.

And that's after they say the camera adds 10 lbs.

Give him a break, he's british.
:thumb:
-Tang.

[FockerTheLopper]

He wife is extremely hot... What a moron

[Divine Drummer]

mmm...nope, can't believe that...

I dont do any of those either, im 18.

Have you heard a new trend called straight edge where you ont drink smoke or do drugs (i dont follow it, i just never found the desire to try any of em), once again its the way things happen, you do it to fit in or you dont t fit in.

[moogoogaipan]

^^^ I don't drink or smoke either. I'm 19
well, sometimes I drink, but never socially. As a matter of fact, i'm don't do much socially... I spend most of my time practicing my music... I'm such a nerd.

[Tang.]

Straight Edge isnt a new trend, its been around for quite some time, I guess maybe now its a bit more popular, but when I was alot younger (12, 13) alot of my older friends were talking about it..there isnt anything wrong with it, I just find it kind of stupid to put a label on people who don't like drinking or smoking..hmm oh well. I enjoy a nice alchoholic beverage every now and than.. but lately its led to nothing but trouble lol..

[Japan3gro]

^^^ I don't drink or smoke either. I'm 19
well, sometimes I drink, but never socially. As a matter of fact, i'm don't do much socially... I spend most of my time practicing my music... I'm such a nerd.

Naw moogoo I play video games I'm the nerd lol.

[BetweenTheEchoes]

Oh yeah? Well I spend all my time talking on AIM.

PWND.

[Japan3gro]

^ Thats only if I'm not playing video games... try again. The only benefit of having a practice pad is I can sit here and go through rudiments and such.

[Massik Kretal]

Oh yeah? Well I spend all my time talking on AIM.

PWND.

so...

[master_of_muppets]

well I smoke Pot and play video games, watch films, play drums. I dont really go out, Just chill out with mates. I guess im an average stoner not really a geek

[BetweenTheEchoes]

^ Thats only if I'm not playing video games... try again. The only benefit of having a practice pad is I can sit here and go through rudiments and such.

Yeah well I chat on AIM while playing Starcraft. Then I go watch Fairly Oddparents and Teen Titans. Then come back and chat more.

[Josiah]

I dont do any of those either, im 18.

Have you heard a new trend called straight edge where you ont drink smoke or do drugs (i dont follow it, i just never found the desire to try any of em), once again its the way things happen, you do it to fit in or you dont t fit in.


It's flat out impossible to not do drugs. Perhaps you are referring to the illegal kind. But even then, that various from country to country anyway.

Ever take asprin? Cough medicine? Most head ache/pain relievers/cough medicines use fairly powerful narcotics to do there job.

Ever had nyquil? That's 27% alcohol.


It's a big joke, "I'm straight edge" "I don't do drugs."

Totally a load of crap, you do use drugs!! The ones you deem that are "ok" for use.

So whats the difference of taking asprin to make you feel better cause you have a pounding headache, or somebody chillin with a J after a st ressful day at work?


In both causes you are using a narcotic to make yourself feel better.


Have a favorite food? That's caused from a dopamine release.. pleasure foods flood hte brain with feel good chemicals.

Ever masterbate? Yea, that's to make you feel better too. Another dopamine release mechanism.


No human can ever say they do not make use of narcotics to make them feel better.
Be it they perform some activity to induce the body to release those narcotics, or take those narcotics or take some chemical that will induce the body's own narcotic production.

[Massik Kretal]

Ever masterbate?

Ever not masterbate?

[PandaDrummer]

I do computer programming, play video games, and watch anime/read manga's

//win's nerd contest

[Josiah]

Ever not masterbate?


Generally if I'm in a releationship I don't. Cause well you know... it's better when it's wetter.

[Massik Kretal]

:lol: Right on.

[BetweenTheEchoes]

Nice post Josiah. Yeah it really does bug me when someone says "I don't do drugs" when they've got a ****ing Diet Coke in their hands. You brain naturally releases so many different substances that alter your thoughts, it's impossible not to do some form of drugs.

[Josiah]

hahaha yes indeed!

I forgot about Caffine!

One of the most abused narcotics on the market. Now with the surge of energy drinks, it's become even more so.


Used a soda to wake you up? That's using drugs. Or a drug, caffine.

Nothing wrong with that at all of course, just it's plain foolishness to claim to not use drugs.

[BetweenTheEchoes]

Exactly. I have many many friends who are addicted to the caffeine in coffee and the sugar substitutes (like aspartame) in Diet sodas.

[officer doofy]

Ya Are exactly Right about that, Non-drummers piss the hell out of me when they try to say there favorite drummer is better than someone like Portnoy or peart when its like a pop Drummer, its sickening.
Lars Ulrich is so much better than Peart, he can play the double bass at like 1,000,000 BPM

[Brokensticks]

Lars Ulrich is so much better than Peart, he can play the double bass at like 1,000,000 BPM

I hope you're joking, and if your not I think you are going to hell.

[yourstruly]

I have actually managed to change the opinions of 3 kids at my college! We were talking about the Transplants.....Barkers drumming skills came up, after I explained to them how he really isn't that good, they were like "hmm, I think you've got a point there".

A few weeks later, I heard the same 3 kids telling some other guys how much Travis sucks! A new world order has begun :rolleyes:
:rolleyes:

[yourstruly]

Actually, I think he overplays quite alot. Most of the time he puts over complicated beats in a song where a simple beat would fit in alot better. Thats just the way it comes across to me when I listen.
Yeah, but even Travis himself knows this.

[officer doofy]

I hope you're joking, and if your not I think you are going to hell.
of course I'm joking, but I think I'm still going to hell:(

[Wizz]

Nice post Josiah. Yeah it really does bug me when someone says "I don't do drugs" when they've got a ****ing Diet Coke in their hands. You brain naturally releases so many different substances that alter your thoughts, it's impossible not to do some form of drugs.

Notice that 99.9 % of the Diet coke users are overweighted... they really think they are keeping it healthy using that cr*p

[FockerTheLopper]

It's flat out impossible to not do drugs. Perhaps you are referring to the illegal kind. But even then, that various from country to country anyway.

Ever take asprin? Cough medicine? Most head ache/pain relievers/cough medicines use fairly powerful narcotics to do there job.

Ever had nyquil? That's 27% alcohol.


It's a big joke, "I'm straight edge" "I don't do drugs."

Totally a load of crap, you do use drugs!! The ones you deem that are "ok" for use.

So whats the difference of taking asprin to make you feel better cause you have a pounding headache, or somebody chillin with a J after a st ressful day at work?


In both causes you are using a narcotic to make yourself feel better.


Have a favorite food? That's caused from a dopamine release.. pleasure foods flood hte brain with feel good chemicals.

Ever masterbate? Yea, that's to make you feel better too. Another dopamine release mechanism.


No human can ever say they do not make use of narcotics to make them feel better.
Be it they perform some activity to induce the body to release those narcotics, or take those narcotics or take some chemical that will induce the body's own narcotic production.
Yay, don't forget about caffeen(****, I can't spell)


Ya Are exactly Right about that, Non-drummers piss the hell out of me when they try to say there favorite drummer is better than someone like Portnoy or peart when its like a pop Drummer, its sickening.
Pop drummers are really good you can argue that some are better then Portnoy because in concert they show off their chops. They are also the best timekeepers out of all the drummers and the cleanest(they cannot miss but eh, Peart never does either but hes the only one, I'm pretty sure Danny is good like that too). If you were to say someone famous like Travis Adrian Lars Grohl or people like that were better then yes you have the right to get pissed.

[officer doofy]

If you were to say someone famous like Travis Adrian Lars Grohl or people like that were better then yes you have the right to get pissed.
Okay, I'm pissed that you mentioned Grohl in that list, and I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but Grohl is absolutely, undeniably (if you have any clue what your talking about) a flat out great drummer. You cannot tell me that, after listening to all of his work, especially QOTSA's "Songs For The Deaf," that he doesn't deserve to be compared to Travis, or Lars. What he does with a single pedal on that CD is far and beyond anyone on this forum's skills. I'm sorry but I am absolutely pissed at you for mentioning him. Not to mention the dust brothers (the greatest record producers IMO, but undeniably one of the greats) chose him for the Tenacious D album, and he produced the tightest drumming I have ever heard in my entire life on that album. let the flaming begin...

[Divine Drummer]

It's flat out impossible to not do drugs. Perhaps you are referring to the illegal kind. But even then, that various from country to country anyway.

Ever take asprin? Cough medicine? Most head ache/pain relievers/cough medicines use fairly powerful narcotics to do there job.

Ever had nyquil? That's 27% alcohol.


It's a big joke, "I'm straight edge" "I don't do drugs."

Totally a load of crap, you do use drugs!! The ones you deem that are "ok" for use.

So whats the difference of taking asprin to make you feel better cause you have a pounding headache, or somebody chillin with a J after a st ressful day at work?


In both causes you are using a narcotic to make yourself feel better.


Have a favorite food? That's caused from a dopamine release.. pleasure foods flood hte brain with feel good chemicals.

Ever masterbate? Yea, that's to make you feel better too. Another dopamine release mechanism.


No human can ever say they do not make use of narcotics to make them feel better.
Be it they perform some activity to induce the body to release those narcotics, or take those narcotics or take some chemical that will induce the body's own narcotic production.

Yeah ok, I know what you mean, its virtually impossible to avoid drugs nowdays. You know the type of drugs that i was refeering to. And i honestly dont take 'medical' drugs unless i really need to. Even when i have a headache i dont use paracetamol. I dont drink tea or coffee and im not a big fan of fizzy drinks (coke), in fact water my most prefered drink of all, even though that too probably has something added to it, i think the area i live in they add stuff that cleans your teeth (while at the same time clogs your arteries). The same goes for food, I cant help any of that though, unless i moved to some mountain spring somewhere and hunted food myself.

I dont like to intentionally take drugs because it makes you dependant on them. I read something about cafeene where some one who doesnt take it has naturally a more active brain, while someone who does take it, and if it is out of their system, have a less active brain, because they rely on the cafeene to wake em up.

What is the future eh? We wont be able to live without some artificial made something in us. We are so un-immune to nature.

P.S. chemicals released from sexual pleasure work in the same way, but hey they dont harm me so im fine with it.

[Kosmos Tree]

After that logic we're all oxygen, food, water and so on addicts...

[_R2D2_]

people in my area are too busy praising metal drummerss like jordison for their speed. non-musicians who think they know everything...

[drummer_mp3]

My thought on this is that you have to play music to judge it. Otherwise STFU about it. Writing lyrics by the way isn't making music, it's poetry added to music. You don't need talent to write lyrics. Playing music on the other hand needs skills.

[moogoogaipan]

It's flat out impossible to not do drugs. Perhaps you are referring to the illegal kind. But even then, that various from country to country anyway.

Ever take asprin? Cough medicine? Most head ache/pain relievers/cough medicines use fairly powerful narcotics to do there job.

Ever had nyquil? That's 27% alcohol.


It's a big joke, "I'm straight edge" "I don't do drugs."

Totally a load of crap, you do use drugs!! The ones you deem that are "ok" for use.

So whats the difference of taking asprin to make you feel better cause you have a pounding headache, or somebody chillin with a J after a st ressful day at work?


In both causes you are using a narcotic to make yourself feel better.


Have a favorite food? That's caused from a dopamine release.. pleasure foods flood hte brain with feel good chemicals.

Ever masterbate? Yea, that's to make you feel better too. Another dopamine release mechanism.


No human can ever say they do not make use of narcotics to make them feel better.
Be it they perform some activity to induce the body to release those narcotics, or take those narcotics or take some chemical that will induce the body's own narcotic production.

I'm hardcore straight edge. I don't take in drugs ever. I've never masturbated, or drunk anything or eaten anything. Nothing has ever entered my body and I kinda just sit in a corner all day and meditate.
What now?!:naughty:

[Kosmos Tree]

My thought on this is that you have to play music to judge it. Otherwise STFU about it. Writing lyrics by the way isn't making music, it's poetry added to music. You don't need talent to write lyrics. Playing music on the other hand needs skills.

Big BS, it takes talent to write good lyrics, ever tried to write a catchy refrain, or put some weight into short sentence; writing lyrics is as demanding as writing an original riff or beat.?
Not everybody sings about how big his whiner is

[Jezen]

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[Josiah]

After that logic we're all oxygen, food, water and so on addicts...


No. Your logic is f*cked.

We're talkign about a group of chemicals classed very specifically as narcotics.


There ARE narcotics in food. Some in many others... it's already been proven that fast food companies add addictive chemicals to their food so you'll buy more.

And that's just the start...

[Kosmos Tree]

It's flat out impossible to not do drugs.

It's your logic :thumb:

[Josiah]

It's your logic :thumb:


No. That has nothign to do with logic.

That's a statement of fact, that is true.


No person could go through their lives and not make use of narcotics. It's absolutely, 100% impossible*.


*Speaking of developed countries, it would be very possible as a 3rd world poor person. Since those people aren't exactly on here.. it's kind of mute.

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This thread= :lol:

[drummer172]

Wow, Josiah is owning someone, how strangly farmilliar...
:smash:

:chug:

[-TheGlassPrison-]

Sweet Thread.