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Tangy zizzle

12-23-2005, 07:07 PM

Seasons greetings and gripings. I hope all of you have pleasnt or at least comfortable days with your loved ones and/or families. I will be having a great day enjoying fine books and booze. Yes.

Enough sugar, lets get down to business. I'm going to mention a few things which I've liked and a few things which I've disliked about this year of our lord 2005. I don't care if you read, or even agree.

I like the fact that the whole garage rock thing has basically died and actual rock bands are starting to make themselves good again.

I like the fact that Queens of the Stone Age released a DVD. Albeit an average one, but it's still something.

I like the fact musicians have (for now) stopped crying so much about politics, iraq, george bush and all that crap.

I like listening to The Drones, who released a damm fine album this year which you should all get hold of and enjoy.

I liked hearing the new that Hot Snakes will be releasing a DVD early-ish next year. This is very good news people.

I like the fact the new Soulwax remix album.

I liked seeing some great bands this year and realising that it's not always the biggest shows that are the best.

I like the fact that good southern rock type bands are beginning to get more love and more sales.
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That's pretty much that. On to the bitching.

I dislike the fact that folk and all that new wave dance-punk **** has been embraced at disgusting levels by idiots who know nothing.

I dislike the fact that guitars seem to be used more as synths or props more than as actual guitars.

I dislike the fact that too many really good bands broke up this year and people barely cared.

I (still) heavily dislike fake punks and everything that they stand for. Make-up, black uniforms, piercings, straght-edge bullshit and really bad hardcore. Why is this stuff cool? I also hate the fact that I could approach any one of these "hardcore" kids and ask them their favourite Black Flag, refused, sick of it all, fugazi, discharge (etc..) song and they'll look at me blankly like I'm speaking ****in' spanish.

I dislike pitchfork and people who follow it as a rulebook. Clap Your Hands Say Yeah and sufjan stevens are NOT THAT GOOD, okay?

I dislike namedroppers ( heh, ironic I know).

I dislike the fact that the Icarus Line, bronx, calexico and flaming lips havn't released albums this year.

I hate the fact that Pete Doherty has been made into a living myth by the stupid media and that people still regard him as a human being. Being a dumb-**** drug addict does not make you cool.

I hate how this place has turned all artsy fartsy and soft.

I dislike System of a Down thinking they are better than us, while blatantly being a watered down, chugga chuggs Mars Volta. Filthy, filthy.

And finally, I dislike ipod-culture.

I wish all of you happy holidays. Godspeed and goodnight.

superpeer

12-23-2005, 07:18 PM

I (still) heavily dislike fake punks and everything that they stand for. Make-up, black uniforms, piercings, straght-edge bull**** and really bad hardcore. Why is this stuff cool? I also hate the fact that I could approach any one of these "hardcore" kids and ask them their favourite Black Flag, refused, sick of it all, fugazi, discharge (etc..) song and they'll look at me blankly like I'm speaking ****in' spanish.

Amen, same goes with "metal heads", same goes for everyone who tries to look too much like something, actually. Death to posers!

I dislike the fact that guitars seem to be used more as synths or props more than as actual guitars

yeah

And finally, I dislike ipod-culture.

yeah

I dislike System of a Down thinking they are better than us, while blatantly being a watered down, chugga chuggs Mars Volta. Filthy, filthy.

I dislike the fact that they whine about advertising, but they have the most advertised CD I have EVER (literally) seen, they have posters on the street, ads in magazines, there were even ads on regular TV, for ****'s sake. I have to admit I tend to enjoy their tunes, though, even though they're a bunch of hypocrites.

I like the fact that Queens of the Stone Age released a DVD. Albeit an average one, but it's still something.

Yeah, I still have to get that.

I like the fact the new Soulwax remix album.

Meh, soulwax. :(

Happy holidays and many random quotes.

Zappa

12-23-2005, 07:18 PM

Alright.

Scott Herren

12-23-2005, 07:23 PM

sufjan stevens is good despite pitchfork liking him. amazing i know.

EightMilesHigh

12-23-2005, 07:27 PM

I wish I had something amazingly funny and witty to say about this that would make the whole forum crack up and make me be loved n stuff.

But I can't.

So, thanks.

And you have a merry Christmas too.

Sam

12-23-2005, 07:28 PM

It's like Mike Watt said: "You can dress up in your little uniform and join the punk rock army, but you're not gonna save the world."

And yea, Clap Your Hands Say Yea eat tons of chode.

Tonys_Theme

12-23-2005, 07:28 PM

Ipod culture in general is pathetic, it's overpriced and at times just useless. P
Pitchfork seems to be the new leader in "indie" culture..sadly.

All in all though, not a bad year.

EightMilesHigh

12-24-2005, 01:15 AM

I dislike people who say "I hate people who say they like a band when they've only heard a few songs."

br3ad_man

12-24-2005, 01:28 AM

I like music.

cap

12-24-2005, 01:31 AM

Who said being a dumb-**** drug addict does make you cool? Most of the people that like Peter (see Libertines.org.uk forum) hate the fact he takes drugs, alot of people verbally bash him for doing so - yet they still like the music he makes. This tells me that it is the music that makes him cool - atleast to the people. Media is different.

Dave de Sylvia

12-24-2005, 01:34 AM

So basically, you like that 2004 has disappeared, but you hate that 2005 happened?

I like the fact that over the last year I've learned not to care about a lot of things.

I dislike people are still pretending to be Modest Mouse fans and only knowing "Ocean Breathes Salty" or "Float On".
I'm pretty sure all Modest Mouse fans are just pretending. Nobody could possibly like the Pixies so much as to like their completely uninteresting derivative.

sgrevs

12-24-2005, 02:54 AM

I liked some good trance hits album that i listened to yesterday, really awesome. I think it was released this year.

I like the fact that The Subways are getting bigger. Good for them.

I like that Wolfmother are finally getting the damn recognition they deserve.

I like that I found out about Neutral Milk Hotel, Lamb, Bjork, and The Flaming Lips.

I dislike the fact that System of a Down released two mediocre albums this year, when really, they could have released one really good one.

I dislike the meagre amount of really good albums that were released this year.

That's all folks!

Have a great Christmas/Hanukkah/other religious holiday.

My one.

Zmev

12-24-2005, 03:37 AM

Happy Christmas to you too Tangy.

BasShorty

12-24-2005, 04:36 AM

merry christmas

Lydisk

12-24-2005, 04:45 AM

i hate the people that ruin Indie music.
people who classify them selves as "indie" people that only listen to it because it is a fad,buying all kinds of crappy music because its indie.
i think this is the year indie died...yeah.

lilsolsman

12-24-2005, 05:10 AM

A very merry christmas to you all.

Sam

12-24-2005, 08:07 AM

I dislike mp3s taking over CDs and vinyl.

That's been really starting to bother me as well. In addition:

I like the fact that Gorillaz finally released a new album and it was decent.

I like the fact I got into some current music this year: I used to think all new music sucked, now I know just most new music sucks.

I dislike alot of stuff. Meh.

EightMilesHigh

12-24-2005, 10:38 AM

I like the fact that I saw Alice Cooper this year.

pinkyeti

12-24-2005, 11:04 AM

I more or less like Pitchfork's list.

There, I said it.

IHeartDisco

12-24-2005, 11:38 AM

Tangy.....I remember why Ive always respected all these years now.....I agree with you 100% on everything.
Especially with the QOTSA/Bronx/Icarus Line/Soulwax/Doherty/Garage Rock comments!

Zappa

12-24-2005, 12:14 PM

mr_jackalope

12-24-2005, 12:22 PM

Tangy.....I remember why Ive always respected all these years now.....I agree with you 100% on everything.
Especially with the QOTSA/Bronx/Icarus Line/Soulwax/Doherty/Garage Rock comments!

Same here. I find him to be sort of a prick a lot of the time, but man if he didn't nail it in that post.

I like the fact that there is an undercurrent of bands slowly building up into a movement that rely more on songwriting (and a lot of the time, rocking) rather than some sort of gimmick or rehashing some awful trend from the 80s. I like the Constantines and the Hold Steady for helping this happen by putting out the two best rock albums in years.

I hate the fact that the same thing is happening to "indie rock" that happened to New Wave. It's gone from just being a group of awesome but non-related artists to becoming a genre-term that gimmick bands are latching onto.

I also hate the fact that the horrible 70s derivative of prog is becoming a non-mocked formed of music again.

JonM

12-24-2005, 12:25 PM

I don't celebrate Xmas, so f**k y'all, all y'all, if y'all don't like me, bl*w me, y'all are gonna keep f**kin around with me and turn me back to the old me.

asymm

12-24-2005, 12:29 PM

I like the fact that there is an undercurrent of bands slowly building up into a movement that rely more on songwriting (and a lot of the time, rocking) rather than some sort of gimmick or rehashing some awful trend from the 80s. I like the Constantines and the Hold Steady for helping this happen by putting out the two best rock albums in years.
I'm having a hard time seeing this as a 'trend'. This is the Constantines third album and the Hold Steady's second. Both bands were received well critically with past efforts. I mean, I love both bands, but I can't see what trend you're trying to refer to. Any other band examples to help me see it?

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I like that I've been able to appreciate much more this year in terms of electronic/avant-garde artists.

Like Nacho - I dislike MP3s slowly overtaking CD/Vinyl as the musical medium.

Scott Herren

12-24-2005, 12:30 PM

I dislike people who are decidely pro-pitchfork or anti-pitchfork regardless of the story/review/list.

Dog

12-24-2005, 12:34 PM

I also like music.

JonM

12-24-2005, 12:38 PM

Like Nacho - I dislike MP3s slowly overtaking CD/Vinyl as the musical medium.
Yes, this is an interesting phenomenon, and I don't know what to make of it. I love the mp3, or rather the mp4, but I would still defend the album format to the death. I like the idea of having every song I want a scroll and a click away, but I must say I do miss the physical media.

On a related note, I think we are entering the age of the EP, and I'm not altogether opposed to that, either. It's just more commercially viable these days, and really good artists should be able to condense a body of work into a cohesive unit of that length without a single wasted second.

mr_jackalope

12-24-2005, 12:42 PM

I'm having a hard time seeing this as a 'trend'. This is the Constantines third album and the Hold Steady's second. Both bands were received well critically with past efforts. I mean, I love both bands, but I can't see what trend you're trying to refer to. Any other band examples to help me see it?

I don't think it's a scene really developing, but it's the fact that I read a great deal of music publications, and bands that have roots influences and put a great deal of emphasis on songcraft are getting more publicity in the bigger ones than they have in years (the garage rock thing was decidedly dominant before).

Artists in the "freak-folk" scene (Devendra Banhart, Antony and the Johnsons, CocoRosie) are suddenly getting publicity; Canadian artists that aren't 95% gimmick or hype like Broken Social Scene, Feist, Stars, and the New Pr0nographers are getting steadily bigger; Ryan Adams and Sufjan Stevens are becoming cult phenomenae (I find Sufjan to be corny and overwrought, but you can't deny he works to death on his songs). All signs are pointing to a surge of really good music from bands we'd never suspect next year, and then them getting publicity for it. We just may be setting ourselves up for an epidemic of good taste.

surfkauai

12-24-2005, 12:43 PM

I hate the fact that people think that listening to Panic! At the Disco and The Academy Is... makes you "indie"

I hope both of these bands, Fall Out Boy too, fall off the face of the earth.

asymm

12-24-2005, 12:47 PM

Yes, this is an interesting phenomenon, and I don't know what to make of it. I love the mp3, or rather the mp4, but I would still defend the album format to the death. I like the idea of having every song I want a scroll and a click away, but I must say I do miss the physical media.

Right, I love the convenience of the mp3, but I love the physical art/process of the physical mediums.

I hate how this place has turned all artsy fartsy and soft.

This one made me laugh! I don't really see this place as getting 'artsy fartsy'.

asymm

12-24-2005, 12:50 PM

When hasn't this been true though? No matter what year you look at, there were always bands getting recognized that put a great deal on songcraft.
Right - this is why I didn't understand Jackalope's point. Songcraft is always emphasized in the critical eye.

IHeartDisco

12-24-2005, 12:52 PM

My review of the year musically:

-Love the fact QOTSA released a DVD, and the fact im on it makes it better
-Good albums of the year inc: QOTSA - Lullabies...., Soulwax - Nite Versions and many others (its been a long year and I canny remember which albums came out when)
-Good new bands inc: Arctic Monkeys (ok I like them), We Are Scientists (my favourite of the new bands, Dresden Dolls.
-The Pete Dohery saga is doing my head in. He's ****ed up, doesn't write good music and should be put out of his misery. However the media should lay off him it doesnt do a ****ed up man any good that hes being followed constantly by not just them but by the Police as well.
-The ska scene is slowly getting better worldwide which I am happy about. Good bands that are actually talented and not just like Less then Jake or Reel Big Fish. Bands include - Streetlight Manifesto, Skylar. However one of my favs split, Howards Alias.
-Some great gigs this year. Soulwax, Reuben among others however I missed many which I am determined not to next year.
-British music is still good in my eyes too with TCTC, Reuben, Biffy, Eighties Matchbox and more.
-The saga with Nick Oliveri and the questions about his departure constantly thrown at Homme annoyed myself as a big QOTSA fan among many others.
-Music magazines have officially hit a low. They are all full of bad reviews, bad articles and full of really bad bands that are overhyped.
-There are way too many people starting new bands...the mainsteam music scene is full of crap aswell as all the local scenes such as Portsmouth/Brighton/the south. Many good bands dont get a chance nowadays whilst **** that sounds like a bad version of Oasis or the Strokes is getting a chance.
-Too many kids are jumping on badwagons. Im not just talking about emo here haha. Bands such as Panic! At the Disco...even though being good and deserving some attention have too many scenesters who are fans and over do the whole fan guy/girl thing and like the bands for the wrong reasons.
-Having said this some great bands are now geting more atention such as Millionaire
-I am dissappointed Auf der Maur hasnt done a proper Uk tour
-I am dissappointed Didz left TCTC for Carl Barats new band which is an average band
-I am dissapointed we didnt see new albums from Be Your Own pet, Bronx and Icarus Line (although theyll be coming soon)
-I am dissappointed at the following bands releases this year: APC, Bloc Party, Coldplay, Feeder, Maximo Park, Hot Hot Heat, Millencolin
-I am happy I have moved towards beter music this year and listened to less crap like I used to.
-Next year I am looking forward to a huge list of gigs Ive made, and albums from manymany bands and hopefully some more recording for my own band and some shows

mr_jackalope

12-24-2005, 12:52 PM

When hasn't this been true though? No matter what year you look at, there were always bands getting recognized that put a great deal on songcraft.

I think my big mistake was my phrasing in my first post. I really meant to convey the fact that these band are actually getting recognition by a larger chunk of the media and thus more by the listening public. This trend would, in turn, cause record labels to begin financing these artists, and music as a whole would take a turn for the better for a while. More artists that even the people on here might not have heard before may get the chance to spread their music. I threw in the HS/'tines reference just as my own sort of 'cheers!'.

I'm of course extremely optimistic about this, and will probably have my hopes more or less crushed, but I'm really seeing the potential for widespread dissimination of awesome music.

JonM

12-24-2005, 12:53 PM

Right, I love the convenience of the mp3, but I love the physical art/process of the physical mediums.
I'm also the guy that always downloads the enormous, hi-res cover art for every digital album I have as if it replaces having the jacket in my hand.

asymm

12-24-2005, 12:57 PM

I'm also the guy that always downloads the enormous, hi-res cover art for every digital album I have as if it replaces having the jacket in my hand.
I'm definitely guilty of this as well.
I think my big mistake was my phrasing in my first post. I really meant to convey the fact that these band are actually getting recognition by a larger chunk of the media and thus more by the listening public. This trend would, in turn, cause record labels to begin financing these artists, and music as a whole would take a turn for the better for a while.

I'm of course extremely optimistic about this, and will probably have my hopes more or less crushed, but I'm really seeing the potential for widespread dissimination of awesome music.

There will always be hard hitting bands concerned with the art of songcraft. I can't see these minor successes to amount to much in the general view of labels and the like. For something like that to happen it needs to be a strong and obvious movement that is immensely popular with the kids.

Happymeal

12-24-2005, 01:50 PM

How very Tangy of you. So I checked out The Drones' album you were talking about and it's good so far. Though I dislike the current "scene" just as much as any of you guys, it doesn't really annoy me so much to complain about it 24/7. As long as there's still tunes out there I can enjoy, que sera sera.

bubbledeath

12-24-2005, 02:03 PM

I haven't seen or even heard Sufjan Stevens anywhere near commercial radio, though, so despite his popularity in the indie world, I really doubt the major major labels are going to pick up on the really good artists. Even with The Decemberists signing to Capital and all. I guess it's a step forward from before.

cap

12-24-2005, 02:52 PM

Sufjan was played ALOT on TripleJ in Australia. Album of the Week etc, although it's not as major as something as Nova96.9 or something, the J is still big.

YDload

12-24-2005, 03:05 PM

I like all the new bands I discovered this year. Many of them were indie rock bands so major props to this forum for helping me out there. But there were also still some good metal/rock bands out there that I found.

Minutemen (late 2004), ...Trail of Dead, HUM, The Dillinger Escape Plan, Mastodon, Drive Like Jehu, Husker Du, The Replacements, Television, Melvins, Yes, and The Fall of Troy.

Here are some bands that I predict I will finally start digging next year: Husker Du (one album on the way, possibly more to come), Hot Snakes, Converge, Gospel (the band), The Pixies, Sonic Youth, Guided By Voices, hmm whatever else that I can dig up from a very special online source ;)

I liked the new albums from The Mars Volta, System of a Down, and Coheed and Cambria, despite the fact that all three of these bands have serious detractors and I probably shouldn't be listening to them. But they're so WEIRD I can't help it! :upset:

Also I'm learning how to play in a jazz band so maybe I will eventually check out some of that stuff.

I disliked... um, not that much really. Just hearing the same song over and over again on the radio and having to change it rapidly even if it means almost swerving into traffic. I can't even listen to "BYOB" anymore even though I have the album! It wouldn't stop being played on 105.9 with all the awkward censored lines! GAH!

Zmev

12-24-2005, 03:24 PM

-Love the fact QOTSA released a DVD, and the fact im on it makes it better
-Good albums of the year inc: QOTSA - Lullabies...., Soulwax - Nite Versions and many others (its been a long year and I canny remember which albums came out when)
-Good new bands inc: Arctic Monkeys (ok I like them), We Are Scientists (my favourite of the new bands, Dresden Dolls.
-The Pete Dohery saga is doing my head in. He's ****ed up, doesn't write good music and should be put out of his misery. However the media should lay off him it doesnt do a ****ed up man any good that hes being followed constantly by not just them but by the Police as well.
-The ska scene is slowly getting better worldwide which I am happy about. Good bands that are actually talented and not just like Less then Jake or Reel Big Fish. Bands include - Streetlight Manifesto, Skylar. However one of my favs split, Howards Alias.
-Some great gigs this year. Soulwax, Reuben among others however I missed many which I am determined not to next year.
-British music is still good in my eyes too with TCTC, Reuben, Biffy, Eighties Matchbox and more.
-The saga with Nick Oliveri and the questions about his departure constantly thrown at Homme annoyed myself as a big QOTSA fan among many others.
-Music magazines have officially hit a low. They are all full of bad reviews, bad articles and full of really bad bands that are overhyped.
-There are way too many people starting new bands...the mainsteam music scene is full of crap aswell as all the local scenes such as Portsmouth/Brighton/the south. Many good bands dont get a chance nowadays whilst **** that sounds like a bad version of Oasis or the Strokes is getting a chance.
-Too many kids are jumping on badwagons. Im not just talking about emo here haha. Bands such as Panic! At the Disco...even though being good and deserving some attention have too many scenesters who are fans and over do the whole fan guy/girl thing and like the bands for the wrong reasons.
-Having said this some great bands are now geting more atention such as Millionaire
-I am dissappointed Auf der Maur hasnt done a proper Uk tour
-I am dissappointed Didz left TCTC for Carl Barats new band which is an average band
-I am dissapointed we didnt see new albums from Be Your Own pet, Bronx and Icarus Line (although theyll be coming soon)
-I am dissappointed at the following bands releases this year: APC, Bloc Party, Coldplay, Feeder, Maximo Park, Hot Hot Heat, Millencolin
-I am happy I have moved towards beter music this year and listened to less crap like I used to.
-Next year I am looking forward to a huge list of gigs Ive made, and albums from manymany bands and hopefully some more recording for my own band and some shows

I think we're entering the age of no formatting.

EightMilesHigh

12-24-2005, 03:44 PM

I also like music.

Hey, me too. Let's be friends.

sr800bkBassist

12-24-2005, 04:16 PM

I'm pretty sure all Modest Mouse fans are just pretending. Nobody could possibly like the Pixies so much as to like their completely uninteresting derivative.
i actually see no connection between the two.

Pixies- punky, poppy, spazzy indie rock /// (old) Modest Mouse- drowsey, lo-fi, poppy indie rock

while Pixies vocals are always energized and jumping between intense and quiet, MM's vocals sometimes get loud, but are generally tired, sleepy, and droney. Pixies' guitar and basslines are driving sounding and punkish, but MM's are, like the vocals, a little more dry and slow. sure there's intensity here and there, but it's not really major.

there's some influence of course, but i wouldn't start saying all the bands influenced by the Pixies are copying them.

i'd compare MM more to a worse version of Pavement.

Kyle

12-24-2005, 04:42 PM

Likes
-I like that I saw some great bands this year, Including The Pixies!!:D
-I especially liked this years releases from The Mars Volta, Kanye West
-I'm glad I discovered The Arcade Fire this year, and saw them live.
-I'm glad I opened my eyes to Hip hop again this year
-I'm impressed by The Strokes new material and look forward to seeing them live in february
-I love the fact that a Smashing Pumpkins re-union now seems a definite in the near future.

Dislikes
-I was dissapointed by black Label Society's latest effort
-I wasn't overly impressed by either new SOAD album
-I was bored with the media obcession with Pete Doherty, it has nearly made me hate the Libertines first album but I can still enjoy it for now.
-Crazy Frog
-My Humps
-James Blunt

sr800bkBassist

12-24-2005, 04:45 PM

i dislike the hype certain artists get.

-Devendra Banhart: he has long hair. he moans a lot while playing quiet acoustic riffs with decent lyrics. HE'S SO PSYCHEDELIC AND GENIUS!

-Libertines: mostly on MX. i guess nobody here in CA cares about them since i have only 1 friend who listens to them, and she doesn't obsess so i don't care. i've also heard them and i don't get why so many people like or hate them. with this band, i'm more frustrated by the positive AND negative hype that goes with them. they're just a simple rock band. no big deal. no need to love or hate them, i for one just pretend they don't exist.
EDIT: i guess the reason i've never seen any media hype or coverage on them is because i don't read bad magazines, watch bad programming, etc.

-HORSE the Band: maybe it's just my area. everyone is obsessing over them. the first album was fun. the keyboards were cool, the lyrics were funny. ha ha. now, they released another CD with the same dumb gimmick. face it. you're done. nobody wants bad hXc music with nintendo keyboards over it anymore, we heard it the first time.

-(this is a little more petty and dumb) i dislike the sudden surge of "indie bands" with obnoxiously "indie" names. "The Concretes". what? that's just a random noun, with The in front. The Drapes. stop it. it sounds ridiculous. there were a bunch of others too, but guess what? i forgot them. why? they were dull random nouns that are completely unmemorable. other dumb "indie" sounding names:
-Clap Your Hands Say Yeah (ok, first of all a sentence for your name is just stupid. second of all, it's not even a good sentence. christ. i can't even put into words how obnoxious this name is)

-Dogs Die in Hot Cars (ok? nice fact. i don't really care.)

-Bloc Party (it's spelled "block". this is just as bad as all those nu-metal bands like Staind, Korn, Trapt, Kutless, etc. mispelling a simple word does does make you any more indie or metal. it means you never passed the first grade.)

also, i hate how people are trying to add 100+ points of "indie"ness to sounds by making them annoying and souless. for example:
-the "JAH-NAH---JAH-NAH---JAH-NAH---" high pitched chord strummed in that pattern was cool when Television did it 30 years ago. but it's not anymore. it's completely void of all soul and feeling. it's just frustrating. Franz Ferdinand, Bloc Party, all other modern indie pop bands, STOP NOW.

-a synthy techno part in a song does not make people want to dance to it. Killers, Bloc Party, Bravery, you can give it a rest, nobody wants to dance to your lifeless music.

i also dislike Bloc Party.

neal_672

12-24-2005, 04:54 PM

I hate the fact that people think that listening to Panic! At the Disco and The Academy Is... makes you "indie"

I hope both of these bands, Fall Out Boy too, fall off the face of the earth.

I agree, well to an extent, anyone that listens to those bands near me considers themselves a hardcore emo kid, not indie. Either way, i too wish that those three bands would fall off the face of the Earth.

sweboy

12-24-2005, 04:54 PM

This year was all about Bomb the Music Industry!. They are so fresh it almost makes me cry. They will own the world in a few years, for sure.

I also appreciate new releases from Protest The Hero, The Mars Volta, Looptroop and others.

I dislike how some indie people claim to like bands that are not considered to give indie points, because that gives them indie points.

And now I dislike the word indie.

I also dislike how people make comments about indie and indie people and all that jazz. Especially when done in conclusive list style towards the end of the year.