Miles...

[GhostNote]

Hi, i was just wondering whether anyone knew of some particularly good Miles Davis Cd's? I have heard some of his stuff, but i do not know what to look for. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Cheers:chug:

[Kayetan]

Well, most people would suggest Kind of Blue, But I prefer Bitches Brew. Birth of Cool Is also pretty nice.

[joshmay]

to get an accurate portrait of miles davis as an artist, i would recommend every album he produced. the things he did with jazz over time are mindblowing.

[Lydisk]

Miles is so diverse....you cant get all of him in just a few Cd's
but here are my suggestions

Kind Of Blue
In A silent Way
Miles Smiles
Tutu
Birth Of The Cool


...hell all of it

[joshmay]

even the less heralded albums are themselves complete works of genius. i'll say the essential four though would be

kind of blue
sketches of spain
in a silent way
bitches brew

[GhostNote]

Thankyou people! Much appreciated, i will now go out and try and find these albums.

Cheers again:chug:

[halfdeadhippo]

Kind of Blue and Miles Smiles are my favorites, but to echo everybody else, you need to hear everything to appreciate the man.

[GhostNote]

Yes, i can see that know, time to raid the cd store...

[baggagebassman]

Miles Ahead is really nice.

[rockinbass17]

I had been wanting a Miles album for so long, and I finally go Kind of Blue yesterday. Great stuff, really chill. I think the next one will be Bitches Brew.

[Bryan Blakey]

I had been wanting a Miles album for so long, and I finally go Kind of Blue yesterday. Great stuff, really chill. I think the next one will be Bitches Brew.

:lol: you will be confused as to how he went from Kind of Blue to Bitches Brew.

[DemBonez]

Because Bitches Brew blows.

[joshmay]

I had been wanting a Miles album for so long, and I finally go Kind of Blue yesterday. Great stuff, really chill. I think the next one will be Bitches Brew.



haha i just pictured the initial grimace you'll have for the first five seconds of the album, especially when the trumpet comes in



equally amazing music though. i dont see how anyone could say it blows, unless youre just a really close-minded bop jazz purist or something

[DemBonez]

I see the fact that you're a mod doesn't suprsede you being an ***hole.

[Kaden]

I see the fact that you're a mod doesn't suprsede you being an ***hole.
And how does it not make YOU an asshole to randomly insult people's taste in music?

[rockinbass17]

haha i just pictured the initial grimace you'll have for the first five seconds of the album, especially when the trumpet comes in



equally amazing music though. i dont see how anyone could say it blows, unless youre just a really close-minded bop jazz purist or something

It's good that it's different. Variety is always nice, and I know he's a very diverse musician. I wouldn't want my second Miles album to be exactly like the first
Was it one of his "electric" albums that I hear about?

[DemBonez]

I didn't randomly insult people's taste in music. I said the album sucks, which it does, and there was nothing random about it. Bitches Brew is a meandering mess of jazz musicians using instruments they aren't comfortable with playing a style they aren't comfrotable with. The end result is interesting, but musically blowing. As a "really close-minded bop jazz purist" (what kind of conclusion was that anyways) I shouldn't be liking Jack Johnson, Filles De Kilimanjaro, In A Silent Way, Live-Evil, Dark Magus, and Agharta, should I? But I do, mainly because all of them are much more refined and interesting than Bitches Brew. They actually have musical ideas that are allowed to prosper much more than on Bitches Brew, they have musicians who don't sound so out of place, and has an overall feel that doesn't result in "If you want to hear this, then it'll be good; if not, this album is useless." Of course, those are just fusion albums that Miles did that are head and shoulders beyond Bitches Brew. Just imagine what the others did.

[BlindWriting]

I mean, everybody and their momma knew you don't just come up and talk to Miles Davis. I mean, he may have looked like he was chilling, but he was absorbed. This one hip couple, one of them tried to shake his hand one day. And the guy says, "Hi, my name is..." Miles said, "Get the **** outta my face you jive mother****er, and take your silly bitch with you."

[Aukai]

Lol, love that quote from that movie which I can't remember the name....Did he actually say that?

[GhostNote]

I didn't randomly insult people's taste in music. I said the album sucks, which it does, and there was nothing random about it. Bitches Brew is a meandering mess of jazz musicians using instruments they aren't comfortable with playing a style they aren't comfrotable with. The end result is interesting, but musically blowing. As a "really close-minded bop jazz purist" (what kind of conclusion was that anyways) I shouldn't be liking Jack Johnson, Filles De Kilimanjaro, In A Silent Way, Live-Evil, Dark Magus, and Agharta, should I? But I do, mainly because all of them are much more refined and interesting than Bitches Brew. They actually have musical ideas that are allowed to prosper much more than on Bitches Brew, they have musicians who don't sound so out of place, and has an overall feel that doesn't result in "If you want to hear this, then it'll be good; if not, this album is useless." Of course, those are just fusion albums that Miles did that are head and shoulders beyond Bitches Brew. Just imagine what the others did.


Man, Alot of people like that album, as it has been suggested to me many times since i initially posted this thread. Why dont u like it?

[joshmay]

dembonez i retract my statement for the most part, and while i disagree with your view on that particular album, i respect your reasoning behind it.




i dont percieve the instrumentation on bitches brew as awkward jazz players acting clumsily in a new world of electric instruments, but a primary exploration into the fusion sound. and there is definitely a difference in the treatment of the music in this album
(bb) and others (you mentioned filles de kilimanjaro, another favorite of mine) i dont think that bitches brew has any less musical merit, or is a more primitive jazzy "mess" or anything of the sort. miles's albums were referred to as "directions in music" and i think this is important. all of the later miles albums explore music differently, and perhaps the direction bitches brew takes just rubs you the wrong way?

[StrangelyBrewed13]

I mean, everybody and their momma knew you don't just come up and talk to Miles Davis. I mean, he may have looked like he was chilling, but he was absorbed. This one hip couple, one of them tried to shake his hand one day. And the guy says, "Hi, my name is..." Miles said, "Get the **** outta my face you jive mother****er, and take your silly bitch with you."


That was probably the best thing of that two hour mess called Collateral.

[Eman Ruoy]

Everybody chill, and ask yourselves this question. Do you actually care what that random internet dude said??? And my thoughts on Bitches Brew: Miles Runs the Voodoo Down! Come on! It's one of the great bass line albums of all time!

[traveller]

i love bitches brew personally, but the first Miles Davis i ever bought was 'Birth of the Cool' and it was awesome!!!!!:thumb:

[BlackVanillaSky]

Bitches Brew was an experience for me the first time I listened to it. It's very...different, but at the same time genius.

I prefer Kind of Blue though, I'd definately recommend it. It's a nice introduction into the musical world of Miles Davis.

[StrangelyBrewed13]

Yeah would definitely reccomend "Kind of Blue" to newcomers, that or "Birth of the Cool".

[Biz]

I love how all of you know Bitches Brew, but none of you know On the Corner. Check that one out if you like Bitches.
-Biz

[GhostNote]

Yeah, lots of good stuff, im getting; kind of blue, bitches brew and some of his early quin/quartet stuff.

[frosted flakes]

I started with Kind of Blue, it's a good introduction.

[theskinnybassist]

on the corner is the besssst

[Biz]

on the corner is the besssst
Thank you, SO MUCH, for actually knowing there is a Miles album called On the Corner. It doesn't make me look so much like an idiot :thumb:
-Biz

[Smeghead]

*cough* Milestones *cough*

[Getao]

on the corner was just too much... bitches brew was a challenge that was well worth it, but on the corner still hurts with the repetition.

I think it's that damn drum beat that spans the first few songs

[Grant]

Check out anything he did with Gil Evans. Porgy and Bess, Miles Ahead and Sketches of Spain (my personal favourite).

[alan_pfeifer]

On The Corner was my 1st experience with Davis.....not the greatest choice, but still better than some other stuff I could have bought.

[jake plays guitar]

kind of blue is my favorite davis album. and star people is a terrible album. i hate it.

[We No Speak]

Recommend a Miles Cd?

The man recorded music for nearly 50 years and was constantly evolving and radically changing his styles. He invented a sound on the trumpet that didn't exist until he did it. He invented styles of music that didn't exist until he did it. He was the Commander in Chief of the now fringe style of Jazz Rock Fusion.

I've got everything he released officially since 1958 and dozens of unofficial releases. There are some I personally like a lot more than others, but to try and recommend a few is detrimental to appreciating the complete artist he was and what he contributed to music as we know it.

Bitches Brew is one of those records that you either love or hate. It's not for the timid and many insist it was real crap until Teo Macero used Studio Magic to "fix it up". I love the record because not only were the musicians being asked to play a style that didn't exist until then, they were all good enough to pull it off and follow his direction. Yeah, it's just a bunch of long jams to simple riffs or bass lines, but it grooves and is dripping with style.

Miles is the man! :chug:

Rick Calic
www.jazzrockworld.com

[Krabsworth]

i love bitches brew personally, but the first Miles Davis i ever bought was 'Birth of the Cool' and it was awesome!!!!!:thumb:

The only problem with Birth Of The Cool is that the sound quality is kind of messed up due to it being a late 40's release. As Grant said Porgy Bess is also a great album. I plan on buying Miles Smiles, Round' About Midnight, Milestones, and Miles Ahead soon.

[flyguy]

Esp

[joshmay]

Recommend a Miles Cd?

The man recorded music for nearly 50 years and was constantly evolving and radically changing his styles. He invented a sound on the trumpet that didn't exist until he did it. He invented styles of music that didn't exist until he did it. He was the Commander in Chief of the now fringe style of Jazz Rock Fusion.

I've got everything he released officially since 1958 and dozens of unofficial releases. There are some I personally like a lot more than others, but to try and recommend a few is detrimental to appreciating the complete artist he was and what he contributed to music as we know it.

Bitches Brew is one of those records that you either love or hate. It's not for the timid and many insist it was real crap until Teo Macero used Studio Magic to "fix it up". I love the record because not only were the musicians being asked to play a style that didn't exist until then, they were all good enough to pull it off and follow his direction. Yeah, it's just a bunch of long jams to simple riffs or bass lines, but it grooves and is dripping with style.

Miles is the man! :chug:

Rick Calic
www.jazzrockworld.com




yo dude...everything you said is spot-on, its nice to have you on board here at mx


i tried to say alot of that with my first post, my brain gets in the way of my thinking sometimes though haha

[hatebreeder]

Anything he did with coltrane is incredible, especially autumn leaves, and green dolphin street. Other then the stuff with coltrane blue in green or two bass hit are my favs

[traveller]

my favourite miles davis combo at the moment is,

Wayne Shorter, Miles Davis, Ron Carter, Herbie hancock and Tony Williams

They have a four part movie clip sequence of them playing together on drummerworld.com,

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/tonywilliams1.html - Part 1

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/tonywilliams2.html - Part 2

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/tonywilliams3.html - Part 3

http://www.drummerworld.com/Videos/tonywilliams4.html - Part 4

[We No Speak]

yo dude...everything you said is spot-on, its nice to have you on board here at mx


i tried to say alot of that with my first post, my brain gets in the way of my thinking sometimes though haha


Thanks!

[pipe]

i personally prefer the jack johnson sessions and on the corner over bitches brew, even if it is a great album. i dunno, i find the ideas behind jack johnson are much more presice and relaxed than the bb stuff.

[Aeaon]

I can't really decide. All his music is fantastic.

[GhostNote]

Recommend a Miles Cd?

The man recorded music for nearly 50 years and was constantly evolving and radically changing his styles. He invented a sound on the trumpet that didn't exist until he did it. He invented styles of music that didn't exist until he did it. He was the Commander in Chief of the now fringe style of Jazz Rock Fusion.

I've got everything he released officially since 1958 and dozens of unofficial releases. There are some I personally like a lot more than others, but to try and recommend a few is detrimental to appreciating the complete artist he was and what he contributed to music as we know it.

Bitches Brew is one of those records that you either love or hate. It's not for the timid and many insist it was real crap until Teo Macero used Studio Magic to "fix it up". I love the record because not only were the musicians being asked to play a style that didn't exist until then, they were all good enough to pull it off and follow his direction. Yeah, it's just a bunch of long jams to simple riffs or bass lines, but it grooves and is dripping with style.

Miles is the man! :chug:

Rick Calic
www.jazzrockworld.com


Man, thats probably the most helpful advice i have seen on this thread so far! Thankyou man. You seem to know your stuff. Glad you're here.

[robo2448]

I just completely spaced out while listening to In A Silent Way for like 40 minutes. It was incredible. Great stuff.

My favorite Miles album is Bitches Brew.

Right now I own: Bitches Brew, Sketches of Spain, In a Silent Way, Miles Smiles, Kind of Blue, and a live bootleg, but I need more. Any suggestions on what to get next?

[Munky_Jam]

My Faves are, Bitches Brew, Jack Johnson, Tutu (People either love or hate it - i say go marcus and miles) Kind of blue and sketches of spain

[superjoe]

i like in a silent way

[DizzyTS]

Miles is so diverse....you cant get all of him in just a few Cd's
but here are my suggestions

Kind Of Blue
In A silent Way
Miles Smiles
Tutu
Birth Of The Cool


...hell all of it

123 to that :thumb:

[nopicks4me]

Bitches Brew all the way

[BlackVanillaSky]

I just listened to Kind of Blue again and I swear everytime I listen to it I start to "understand" it and appreciate it more and more. Everyone should listen to this, espcially the bluesy "Freddie Freeloader" and the beautiful "Flamenco Sketches (Alternate Take)"

[Benzum]

Bitches Brew is very cool indeed. I'm on a whole, pretty new to anything jazz, although I'm not completely uneducated on the subject :cool: