Mutha F***in' CHARLES BRONSON

[Subvert_bassist]

No, not the actor, but the band.


Bio:

(Wikipedia did it better than I do)
Charles Bronson was a hardcore punk/power violence thrash band noted for its innovative use of film/TV samples as postmodern metacommentary within the structure of its music. (The eponymous self-referencing sample comes from Gary Oldman's character in True Romance.) They played fast and heavy thrash along with contemporaries like Dropdead and Spazz. Their two-disc discography, entitled Complete Discocrappy, was released on Youth Attack Recordings/625 Thrashcore in 2000. Members went on to be in bands like Holy Molar, Das Oath, and Ruination.


Recommended Tracks:

Ricki Lake
Last Warning (Who ****ing Cares)
Individualized Floor Puncher
Can't Take This
Your Average Run of the Mill Straight Edge Song


Discography

S/T 7" (aka "Diet Root Beer")
Charles Bronson/Ice Nine split 7"
Charles Bronson/Quill split 7"
Charles Bronson/Unanswered split 7"
Youth Attack LP/10"
Complete Discocrappy CD


Sounds:

Charles Bronson Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/charlesbronsonhc)


Now, discuss these thrash greats.

[EvIL_ToASTER_OVEN]

amazing band

[SantaDuJuan]

When people say punk's just screaming and I argu and so no.
I use this as an example.

[Gnarmageddon]

Charles Bronson is an orgasm for the ears.

[conniption]

Charles Bronson is amazing.

[CameoRole]

Best ****ing band to ever exist in the history of hardcore punk rock music. They made the best powerviolence ever and the singer's new band, Das Oath, rock real hard. It's a punk with a thrash influence, but still very hard hitting and fast and loud and oh my God amazing.

[AIRIC]

Great great band.

[YoungSavage77]

I can't be friends with you because you like Epitaph.

[Brain Toad]

I like some of their stuff, but for some reason I can't listen to them very much.

[Lazybassplr56]

So crazy. I love this band. I just dont know how their drummer can play that fast for more than 30 minutes.

[MILF Hunter]

Rich crusties shall pay

[Gnarmageddon]

412 Wolfpack is the worst song I've ever heard.

[whiteminority]

hell yes

[D & V]

Amazing

[Scabies]

BOOMCHHBOOMCHHBOOMCHEOGFSROFHOSFOPSJFJSDJDJ i go to school.

i love CB.

[Aus Rotten]

Awesome band, but your recommended songs were... eh. Craig Ferris Suck A Mean C'ock, Eazy E's F'ucking Dead And I Think It's Rad, I Lied To You When I Said I Liked Your Zine, all much better songs. CB is my favorite power-violence/thrash band. Their discocra'ppy is absolutely ace. :thumb: :thumb:

[DaveToopes]

This is such an awesome band.

[swampfoot]

anyone know where i can get lyrics for your average run of the mill straight edge song?

[RetiredAt21]

I love Charles Bronson. My first PV band.

[Aus Rotten]

If you love Charles Bronson, check out Spazz, Quill, Infest, or Despise You. Absolutely excellent powerviolence. Oh, and check out Mark McCoy's (singer's) other bands: Holy Molar, Das Oath, Social Coma, or Virgin Mega Hore. Absolutely ace bands, but some are very different from Charles Bronson. :thumb:

[Aus Rotten]

anyone know where i can get lyrics for your average run of the mill straight edge song?

Buy the Complete Discocr'appy, and look through all about 30 pages on the insert. The lyrics are written in the sloppiest hand-writing, at about size .5 font. That's why the lyrics are nearly impossible to come by online. :thumb: Or, you could just buy the discocr'appy, and try to decipher the lyrics yourself.

[IgniteYourAvail]

If you love Charles Bronson, check out Spazz, Quill, Infest, or Despise You. Absolutely excellent powerviolence. Oh, and check out Mark McCoy's (singer's) other bands: Holy Molar, Das Oath, Social Coma, or Virgin Mega Hore. Absolutely ace bands, but some are very different from Charles Bronson. :thumb:

Spazz and Infest ****ing OWN. I'll check out those other bands.

And you forgot to put Capitalist Casualties in your PV list.

[Aus Rotten]

Surf Nazis Must Die, Stapled Shut, Max Ward, Mindless Mutant, Doppelganger, F'uck On The Beach, Uzi Suicide, XBRAINIAX, Romantic Gorilla, Yacopsae, Magrudergrind, Threatener, George Harrison, Godstomper, Kung-Fu Rick, Betercore!, Lack Of Interest, A'ssholeparade, Bruce Banner, Voetsek, Pissed Happy Children, Scholastic Deth, What Happens Next?, Crossed Out, Knife Fight, Apathetic Ronald McDonald, the list just goes on and on. I just figured i'd mention some of my "more favorite" (?) PowerViolence bands. Watch out though, once you get into PowerViolence, there's no turning back. I'm completely consumed by it now. :thumb:

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

I ****ing love Charles Bronson. What is there connection to Das Oath? I hear alot of people talking about them together.

[Aus Rotten]

Mark McCoy sang for Charles Bronson, and sings for Das Oath as well. They're both Youth Attack! bands too.

[Times Ten]

Screw Charles Bronson. Das Oath is where it is at.

[World Burns To Death]

over rated, although they still pwn

[whiteminority]

Screw Charles Bronson. Das Oath is where it is at.
More like Das Blowth.

CB > DO any day.

[Aus Rotten]

More like Das Blowth.

CB > DO any day.

qft. Das Oath is great, but not even in the same league as CB.

[RetiredAt21]

Das Oath is good, but Charles Bronson is several several times better.

[me likes punk]

Charles Bronson was a pretty big inspiration for my band. I <3 dem.

[Eliminator]

"'Ey mah, gimme a cookie"

"No"

"Dis. ain't. ovah."

[whiteminority]

I love that episode.

"No, this is Bronson, Missouri not Branson."

[Matt?]

i don't really dig das oath that much at all.

charles bronson is ok

[RetiredAt21]

Why don't you like Das Oath?

[me likes punk]

I like Charles Bronson when the singer screams and opposed to when he's just sort of yelling. Are they different singers or just different style of singing?

[Anxious]

I got their discocrappy a while back. Been meaning to listen to it.

[Aus Rotten]

I like Charles Bronson when the singer screams and opposed to when he's just sort of yelling. Are they different singers or just different style of singing?

I believe if you read the insert on the Complete Discocrappy, it states that "Mark sings every song on this discography, no matter how bad it sounds" -- or something very similar to that. So yeah, it's all Mark.

[RetiredAt21]

Complete Discocrappy rules. It's so good.

[Matt?]

Why don't you like Das Oath?

i dunno. most of the stuff i don't like music wise i couldn't explain why. sometimes i don't even have a reason.

i still don't like it though

[RetiredAt21]

I didn't like them at first, but then they really grew on me.

[Sam]

Great band and all, but I still have no idea what powerviolence is supposed to mean.

[RetiredAt21]

Powerviolence is kind of hard to describe...

[me likes punk]

I believe if you read the insert on the Complete Discocrappy, it states that "Mark sings every song on this discography, no matter how bad it sounds" -- or something very similar to that. So yeah, it's all Mark.


I downloaded; so I don't have the booklet. Thanks to ye for telling me instead of just telling me to read it for myself.

[me likes punk]

Powerviolence is kind of hard to describe...


I always thought of it as a very violent attack on the ears. Is that close?

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Is powerviolence indeed one word? Or is that just how everyone types it?

[Aus Rotten]

PowerViolence... the way to describe it is Thrash without the breakdowns. PV is most commonly known for using "blast beat" drum rhythm. It's sort of like D-Beat, in that it's centered around a drum beat. New-wave PV bands usually have two vocalists -- one scream, one 'cookie monster', or have one singer sing in both tones. "Cookie Monster" is in reference to Max Ward's vocals -- drummer for one of the legendary PV bands, and one of the bands that shaped the genre, Spazz.

There really is no written way to "describe" PowerViolence, it's really a lot of interpretation. After listening to the genre for quite some time now, and hearing A LOT of different bands both old and new, this is my take on PowerViolence.

[RetiredAt21]

Most thrash doesn't have breakdowns.

[whiteminority]

Cookie Monster vocals were around in death metal before PV.

[Aus Rotten]

Screaming vocals were around before PV as well, but the cookie monster vocals are just something that's typically done in PV, so I thought it was fair enough to say that it's a signature thing in PV. I didn't mean to say that PV "invented" it, or was the only genre to use it.

Most thrash doesn't have breakdowns.

I think you're right about that too, I have such a hard time differentiating between thrash and PV. I've heard from many different people that Charles Bronson (just as an example) was described as both PV and thrash. And Spazz, in some of their songs refer to themselves as a Thrash band, but they are widely accepted as one of the legendary PV bands.

[Aus Rotten]

Side note: Since this thread is primarily discussing PV/Thrash, and no longer just about Charles Bronson, I think you would all appriciate this. In my opinion, the best, new 2006 PV band, AxSxHx

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mphpmTYi_MQ

[RetiredAt21]

Werd.