View Full Version : how would you become a cymbal dealer?
Stert
12-15-2005, 09:51 AM
i have always wondered how this works.
how would someone start selling, for example, sabian cymbals?
just curious
The Ska Man
12-15-2005, 09:58 AM
Get a buisness permit, start up a nice lil company. Call up Sabian. Meet with them. Buy cymbals......
Stert
12-15-2005, 10:02 AM
what about these online stores?
what do they do?
or even a guy that wants to start an ebay store, lol, what would he do?
Bowler
12-15-2005, 10:15 AM
Good Thread! I wana no more. Are permits expensive, how does it work?
dumbassdrummer
12-15-2005, 11:55 AM
contact your local chamber of commerce about starting your own business.
Panopticon
12-15-2005, 02:21 PM
Where's Josiah when you need him...he's always good at this kinda stuff**
**this kinda stuff = everything
dbl_bass_drmr_Jirvy
12-15-2005, 02:27 PM
I think business permits/licenses cost $5... well at least over here... and thats what I heard so dont hold it to me if I'm wrong haha
Josiah
12-15-2005, 02:47 PM
how would someone start selling, for example, sabian cymbals?
You need a company wich sells drum stuff. A place of business (internet or store). You need all the financial stuff setup - Bussiness Bank Acounts, Permits, Comerce Accounts, Credit Card services, etc etc. You need a lot of money, all business need some starting capital. You also need a reason.
The reason, is always to make money. It's just a time proven truth that if a business goal is not making money, it will fail. Odd's are it will fail anyway as most business do in their first year, 60% I belive in the US.
Assuming all that fun stuff was taken care of an you are ready to stock product (the fun part). You start with distributers. Wich are large product movement companies that buy large amounts of products from manufactors and then resell-wholesale (distribute) smaller amounts to the smaller business.
Reason being is for most companies that make a product, such as cymbals, you need a minimum buy to be able to order direct from them. I can't be sure if this is the case with cymbals, though my hunch is as this is the case in almost all business of products, and was in the industry I worked in.
Often a min. buy is a lot more then a small shop can turn around, or even afford to purchase. You have places like GC who flip 10,000 Sabians a year easy. They have a buying power that blows away small guys - hence how they can price match/beat.
You average privately owned drum shops MIGHT do 500 sabians a year. Wich would be selling 1.5 Sabian cymbals a day, 365. So that's doing pretty good for a small shop at that point as well.
I managed for a distrubution company in the surfing industry. We sold surfboard blanks (the molded foam blanks a surfboard is carved out of
before being glassed). The major company in the world that does foam blanks is Clark Foam. You have to be able to buy a min of 1,000 blanks per month, or 10,000 per year (depends how you order) to deal directly with them. Since that number far exceeds the production of a great deal of, though still large, surf board companies. Thus all of those guys who don't produce that kind of volume come to us for their blanks. Being that the company is the biggeset distrubuter, and really only 1 of 2 in the US.
A company still buys in wholesale from a distributer, the distributer makes a profit on each sale, but neither the distrubuter or company purchasing the items pays tax (yet). Everything is still wholesale. The company I worked for had both wholesale and resale permits in various areas (you need seperate permits for different product categories). To purchase wholesale, you need a resale permit. To sell wholesale you need a wholesale permit.
As to the whole eBay thing. That's really devling into a very new area of business. Before embarking on that I'd suggest someone study up on the base business principles, concepts and various other established laws, conduct, etc. EBay is a new business place, it's having new laws made every day concerning bussiness on the internet - plus there's a great many nuances I just don't know.
Either way it really comes down to no amount of small work and a big amount of research, prep work, learning, paper work, studying and effort that goes into starting any succesful business in any industry, online or physical. Oh not to mention, money being put up at a risk of loss.
Panopticon
12-15-2005, 02:53 PM
told you he knows everything:lol::smash:
Josiah
12-15-2005, 02:56 PM
Hahahaha not quite... if I did I'd be posting from my private island in the bahama's, instead I'm stuck hear 6 months out of the year and only see my island some of the time. Hahahahhaha
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