H.i.m.

[peaceloveandbass]

Is anyone as obsessed with HIM as much as i am?
I mean how could anyone not love them they have thier own friggin genre!

[Joe]

Me? I can't stand HIM, sorry.

[Shadows]

Me either. Can't stand them in the least.

I can see why others love them though.

[Toaster]

Is anyone as obsessed with HIM as much as i am?
I mean how could anyone not love them they have thier own friggin genre!

Please don't tell me you mean "love metal".

[Doctor Night]

Love Metal
:lol:

[Ace_of_Bass2112]

HIM what joke

[Steerpike]

I listened to a few songs by them. They're okay.

But.. love metal... of all the fakey, made-up genres I've ever heard of, that is by far the most pretentious.

[lionelhutz88]

I can't stand them at all. They're a bit too wimpy for my tastes.

[peaceloveandbass]

come on they are so original that i couldnt even describe them to miself! lol

[Shadows]

Please tell me you mean "not metal".
Fixed.

I wouldn't have a problem with them if they didn't constantly try to pass themselves off as metal, which they aren't even close to.

[Steerpike]

come on they are so original that i couldnt even describe them to miself! lol

Not really. They're sort of a... lite version of the modern Goth rock scene. Very accessible.

I don't really think they're bad at all, but they're unbelievably pretentious.

On a side note, is that their singer in your avatar? Christ, somebody buy that guy a meal at a buffet or something. Ghandhi weighed more than him.

[Shadows]

They're original enough, but I couldn't believe when someone told me they're considered "Finland's claim to fame".

[GenuineImitation]

I can't stand HIM. The whole "love metal" aspect is corny. Its just a way to be more accessible to the masses and get more money.

[Steerpike]

They're original enough, but I couldn't believe when someone told me they're considered "Finland's claim to fame".

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: No.

Finland has far, far more to offer than that. Nightwish, Tarot, Children of Bodom, Norther, Kalmah, Skyfire, Imperanon, Stratovarius, Kotipelto, Moonsorrow, Finntroll...

Do I really need to go on?

[GenuineImitation]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: No.

Finland has far, far more to offer than that. Nightwish, Tarot, Children of Bodom, Norther, Kalmah, Skyfire, Imperanon, Stratovarius, Kotipelto, Moonsorrow, Finntroll...

Do I really need to go on?


I think you could have made your point by just mentioning one of those bands. Thats how bland HIM are.

[peaceloveandbass]

*i like nightwish*

[The_Riddler]

I am a pretty big fan of HIM. I hate how they aren't liked on the internet much, but what can you do?

I love almost all their songs/cd's. they aren't my favorite band, but they are damn good. A lot of songs remind me of my girlfriend and just a few other things.

I also listen to
-Nightwish
-Blind Guardian
-Iced Earth

So yeah...I like quite a few different styles of music.

[Steerpike]

Nightwish are easily among the top 5 bands to have come out of Finland in the last generation. As I said, HIM are okay, but Nightwish is in a whole other league musically and lyrically.

[peaceloveandbass]

*tries not to get on peoples nerves*
Gas(drummer of HIM) has actually worked with nightwish on one of thier albums

[Joe]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: No.

Finland has far, far more to offer than that. Nightwish, Tarot, Children of Bodom, Norther, Kalmah, Skyfire, Imperanon, Stratovarius, Kotipelto, Moonsorrow, Finntroll...

Do I really need to go on?

That they do, but what's the most popular? Most people here have heard of HIM while if I ask a person about Stratovarius they'd be clueless.

[Steerpike]

*tries not to get on peoples nerves*
Gas(drummer of HIM) has actually worked with nightwish on one of thier albums

Which album and where did you hear that from? Because I'm pretty sure that Jukka has been with Nightwish from the start.

That they do, but what's the most popular? Most people here have heard of HIM while if I ask a person about Stratovarius they'd be clueless.

Depends entirely on where you ask. In America, it's more likely people know about HIM and not Stratovarius.

But if you ask anywhere in Japan, Europe, or South America, chances are that Nightwish will be the first band they think of.

Of course, even here in the States, our backward little behind-the-times culture is starting to catch up and see Nightwish for the brilliance they are.

[Shadows]

I'd say you'd hear more about Children of Bodom in those countries then you would Nightwish.

Although melodic metal bands are really popular in those countries. Just ask Arch Enemy.

[Deconstruction]

I am a pretty big fan of HIM. I hate how they aren't liked on the internet much, but what can you do?

I love almost all their songs/cd's. they aren't my favorite band, but they are damn good. A lot of songs remind me of my girlfriend and just a few other things.

I also listen to
-Nightwish
-Blind Guardian
-Iced Earth

So yeah...I like quite a few different styles of music.
Uhh those 3 bands are all power metal so...from that it looks like you like only two genres.

[Steerpike]

I'd say you'd hear more about Children of Bodom in those countries then you would Nightwish.

Split hairs, why doncha. :p

[Neamhtrocaireach]

H.I.M slowly got worse every album.
Like come on have you guys heard Dark Light!?
It was the biggest pile of crap ever!!!!!!!!!
The Kerrang!! interview said it was speed metal mixed with death metal!!
And when you buy it, its just a pile of repetitive unoriginal bull.

[Magicaltroll]

Moonsorrow. Do I really need to go on?
No, no you don't.

[Steerpike]

The Kerrang!! interview said it was speed metal mixed with death metal!!

That's because Kerrang sucks. No one who has done their own research into the metal genre takes them seriously anymore.

[Deconstruction]

No, no you don't.
AIM now?

[peaceloveandbass]

H.I.M slowly got worse every album.
Like come on have you guys heard Dark Light!?
It was the biggest pile of crap ever!!!!!!!!!
The Kerrang!! interview said it was speed metal mixed with death metal!!
And when you buy it, its just a pile of repetitive unoriginal bull.
Wow u ave some harsh feelings there

[Steerpike]

Wow u ave some harsh feelings there

Please don't use IM shorthand around here. It's gratuitous and gets on a lot of people's nerves very fast.

Anyway, this shouldn't really surprise you. HIM have become a very divisive figure in modern music. Partly because of their mainstream success attracting scores of poseurs to the scene, partly because of how grossly overrated they've become, and partly because of their obviously pretentious opinion of themselves.

[Storm In A Teacup]

It seems to me and many others that all HIM fanboys are apparently around the age of 12 years old.

Someone prove me wrong.

P.S.-HIM fanboys are just one step above emo. :p

[peaceloveandbass]

Please don't use IM shorthand around here. It's gratuitous and gets on a lot of people's nerves very fast.

Anyway, this shouldn't really surprise you. HIM have become a very divisive figure in modern music. Partly because of their mainstream success attracting scores of poseurs to the scene, partly because of how grossly overrated they've become, and partly because of their obviously pretentious opinion of themselves.
Ok...I understand what you are trying to say...but i like my music for the music, not the popularity...

[TheDMV]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: No.

Finland has far, far more to offer than that. Nightwish, Tarot, Children of Bodom, Norther, Kalmah, Skyfire, Imperanon, Stratovarius, Kotipelto, Moonsorrow, Finntroll...

Do I really need to go on?

Sadly though, more people can tell you they know about HIM. HIM is more popular and widely known than all of them (except for maybe Nightwish) at least where I'm from, perhaps largely due in part to them being Bam Margera's favorite band.

[Steerpike]

Ok...I understand what you are trying to say...but i like my music for the music, not the popularity...

That's fine. I'm hardly one to argue with someone over their taste. The closest I ever get is trying to convince others to broaden their horizons.

I just want to establish that there are some bands that you have to be prepared to put up with some flack for listening to. I'm one of the resident power metal junkies, but I also enjoy some nu-metal and have had to put up with some idiots for it occassionally.

I freely admit to liking both Judas Priest and Green Day, Death and Less Than Jake. Every now and again, some wanker is going to give me grief for it, but it's not as if I can't verbally crush them like insects anyway.

[BassVirtuoso]

HIM did invent their own genre.

It's called suck.

[Steerpike]

Sadly though, more people can tell you they know about HIM. HIM is more popular and widely known than all of them (except for maybe Nightwish) at least where I'm from, perhaps largely due in part to them being Bam Margera's favorite band.

That's the nature of American media, sadly. It's a sad statement that we're supposed to be a world superpower, yet Japan and most of Europe has passed as by culturally speaking by about a generation.

[peaceloveandbass]

HIM did invent their own genre.

It's called suck.

How disrespectful can someone be?

[Shadows]

HIM did invent their own genre.

It's called suck.
That was completely uncalled for, as well as the worst insult I've ever heard.

[Deconstruction]

How disrespectful can someone be?
Its his opinion he can express it freely, I am sure some think you are disrespectful for HIM.

[Steerpike]

How disrespectful can someone be?

Believe me, they can and do say much worse. That one just really wasn't that funny.

[peaceloveandbass]

Its his opinion he can express it freely, I am sure some think you are disrespectful for HIM.
Atleast certain people can respect all genres, they don't have to like them, but atleast respect them!

[Deconstruction]

Atleast certain people can respect all genres, they don't have to like them, but atleast respect them!
There are only two things I hate in this world- People who disrespect genres and emo.

I respect all genres no matter how much I dont like them.

[Steerpike]

Atleast certain people can respect all genres, they don't have to like them, but atleast respect them!

If you're referring to "love metal" I should probably clarify for you that very few around here recognize that as a legitimate genre. It's not a genre unless more than one band is playing it.

You see, we're currently going through a nasty trend where everyone and their mother is trying to make up new genres, and they're really getting stupid. Forest metal, ice metal, Australian war metal...

HIM are more of a Gothic hard rock band.

[Shadows]

Ice metal? I've never heard of that - did you just make it up?

I <3 good war metal though. :)

[peaceloveandbass]

If you're referring to "love metal" I should probably clarify for you that very few around here recognize that as a legitimate genre. It's not a genre unless more than one band is playing it.

You see, we're currently going through a nasty trend where everyone and their mother is trying to make up new genres, and they're really getting stupid. Forest metal, ice metal, Australian war metal...

HIM are more of a Gothic hard rock band.
I'm very aware of the fact that "Love Metal" is not considered a "legitimate" genre.

[TheDMV]

Not to mention folk using -core so liberally it's become a common suffix. MY band is psycadelic deathcore :p

[Steerpike]

Ice metal? I've never heard of that - did you just make it up?

I <3 good war metal though. :)

No, that was actually included in a list of genres some re-re posted last spring.

The funny thing is, the only example I can think of that I've ever used is pirate metal, to describe the band Running Wild. But I never tried to pass it off as a genre. It's just a name fans came up with because Running Wild is a power metal band that sings about pirates. We're also often very protective, insisting that Running Wild is the only band that sings about pirates, and that's the way it should be.

I'm very aware of the fact that "Love Metal" is not considered a "legitimate" genre.

Alright then. Just thought I'd say it, just in case. Very few people around here are disrespecting any genre. They just don't like HIM.

[Nostalgia]

Atleast certain people can respect all genres, they don't have to like them, but atleast respect them!
It's not that we don't respect the other genres it's just, since their is this sudden rush of new genres reaching the metal scene a lot of people feel the need to narrow the genres down. Their are enough genres as is, we don't need a genre for each band.


Forest metal :lol:

[Shadows]

I've searched "black metal" on wikipedia and it gave a whole list of the most obscure subgenres ranging from dragon metal to gnome metal to forest metal. It's pretty ridiculous.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

If you're referring to "love metal" I should probably clarify for you that very few around here recognize that as a legitimate genre. It's not a genre unless more than one band is playing it.



Not to mention it is an oxymoron, which is probably why any decent metal head will never consider it a real genre.

[heavy metal kid]

It's not that we don't respect the other genres it's just, since their is this sudden rush of new genres reaching the metal scene a lot of people feel the need to narrow the genres down. Their are enough genres as is, we don't need a genre for each band.


Forest metal :lol:

we could close all the new and funny genres under the name of Contemporain Musical Vaguardism.

[Steerpike]

I've searched "black metal" on wikipedia and it gave a whole list of the most obscure subgenres ranging from dragon metal to gnome metal to forest metal. It's pretty ridiculous.

I know, it's insane. Everyone is making genres up, and only a select few are ever recognized by any significant portion of the community at large. In the power metal thread, we've had page after page of jokes about what kind of obscure sub-genre we'll come up with.

Desert metal
Tundra metal
Ninja metal
Samurai metal
Dinosaur metal
Astronomy metal
Dentistry metal

We just pull random ideas out of our asses to laugh at these schmucks who think making up a new genre name makes them more tr00 (or True, for non-black-metalheads.

[Shadows]

Dentistry metal :lol:

I'm surprised bands like Carcass haven't been dubbed "mutilation metal" or some pointless gore title like that. Eventually every metal band will have their own sub genre.

[peaceloveandbass]

Umm...well...I started this to talk to HIM fans, not to have everyone dis everyone else...

[Joe]

Yea really. This isn't supposed to be a thread to bash them. As much as I hate them, there isn't a need for any more bashing.

[heavy metal kid]

Umm...well...I started this to talk to HIM fans, not to have everyone dis everyone else...

I don't like HIM, i don't care if they are popular or not.

Still i have to recognize that they have talent.

[Storm In A Teacup]

Umm...well...I started this to talk to HIM fans, not to have everyone dis everyone else...


This site is for both fans and haters to talk about the same thing.

[Steerpike]

Dentistry metal :lol:

I'm surprised bands like Carcass haven't been dubbed "mutilation metal" or some pointless gore title like that. Eventually every metal band will have their own sub genre.

There is a subgenre of death metal called gore metal. It's basically the catch-all for every band whose lyric sheets read like a forensic pathology essay.

Umm...well...I started this to talk to HIM fans, not to have everyone dis everyone else...

Given the general attitude toward the band around here, the cards were kind of stacked against you. See if you can get in touch with evilmenhavenosongs. She'll be on your side on this issue if no one else.

[peaceloveandbass]

I don't like HIM, i don't care if they are popular or not.

Still i have to recognize that they have talent.
Thank You.

[Shadows]

There is a subgenre of death metal called gore metal. It's basically the catch-all for every band whose lyric sheets read like a forensic pathology essay.
Yeah, gore metal was the sub genre invented by Cannibal Corpse. But I'm surpised it hasn't been taken to the next level with "dissection metal" or "MD metal".

[Steerpike]

Yeah, gore metal was the sub genre invented by Cannibal Corpse. But I'm surpised it hasn't been taken to the next level with "dissection metal" or "MD metal".

They probably figured, "Sub-sub-genres are for non-men!!" Then, to show how serious they were, started breaking cinderblocks with their faces.

[King_Of_Terrors]

God this thread is huge, filled with how much people can't stand them. :lol:

I heard a few songs awhile ago, they seemed okay...I will give them another listed. What is their genre? Bam metal?

[Steerpike]

God this thread is huge, filled with how much people can't stand them. :lol:

I heard a few songs awhile ago, they seemed okay...I will give them another listed. What is their genre? Bam metal?

They're really more Gothic hard rock, actually.

[Hardhat]

I tOuCh MySeLf To HiM!!!!

[Neoteric]

The guitarist has talent though I personally don't think the drummer can play for jack. Oh, I hate them as you see lots of 12 year-olds walking around the town with their HIM t-shirts.