Docs

[nobody's hero999]

Hey im getting doc martens either for christmas or my birthday, so should i get 8761's or 1460's?

[Liebensaft]

Double thread, but I'd go with the 8761's.

[Brain Toad]

I'd say 8761s too, unless you don't like tall boots.

[coheneran]

Hey im getting doc martens either for christmas or my birthday, so should i get 8761's or 1460's?

Don't wear leather! Buy fakes, they're just as good. The whole Doc Marten "punk" look is just another ploy by the fashion industry to control a scene, like Blink 182. Go to different charity shops and find a comfy pair of steeltoed boots. The most comfy boots are ones already broken in.

[Flagjacket]

Don't wear leather! Buy fakes, they're just as good. The whole Doc Marten "punk" look is just another ploy by the fashion industry to control a scene, like Blink 182. Go to different charity shops and find a comfy pair of steeltoed boots. The most comfy boots are ones already broken in.
I thought it was cause skinheads wore them because they were practical.

[DaveToopes]

Don't wear leather! Buy fakes, they're just as good. The whole Doc Marten "punk" look is just another ploy by the fashion industry to control a scene, like Blink 182. Go to different charity shops and find a comfy pair of steeltoed boots. The most comfy boots are ones already broken in.

Please don't talk any more.

I agree with Nick and Joe.

[Brain Toad]

Doc Martens are high quality boots, have always been high quality and you pay for that quality.
I used to think buying storebrand boots would be just as good, and these ones are already falling apart.

[coheneran]

I thought it was cause skinheads wore them because they were practical.

Practicallity ends at mass slaughter for fashion. You're a farmer who's coat is old and falling apart? Fine, shear a sheep, kill a cow, make a leather coat with a wool lining and have roast beef for Sunday. But no one needs a fu'cking pair of mass-produced leather boots when there are so many just as good substitutes around.

[Brain Toad]

Practicallity ends at mass slaughter for fashion. You're a farmer who's coat is old and falling apart? Fine, shear a sheep, kill a cow, make a leather coat with a wool lining and have roast beef for Sunday. But no one needs a fu'cking pair of mass-produced leather boots when there are so many just as good substitutes around.

Or maybe they don't have political ideas like that and just want a pair of good boots and would prefer not be preached at.

[Liebensaft]

Or maybe they don't have political ideas like that and just want a pair of good boots and would prefer not be preached at.
123.

[Rise Me Up]

Practicallity ends at mass slaughter for fashion. You're a farmer who's coat is old and falling apart? Fine, shear a sheep, kill a cow, make a leather coat with a wool lining and have roast beef for Sunday. But no one needs a fu'cking pair of mass-produced leather boots when there are so many just as good substitutes around.


Listen, I don't use leather either, but e-preaching is stupid. Stop it.

[coheneran]

Doc Martens are high quality boots, have always been high quality and you pay for that quality.
I used to think buying storebrand boots would be just as good, and these ones are already falling apart.

Buy good ones that aren't made of leather. I do. I spent 20 quid on these ones (cheap as chips) and they've lasted me through rain and shine (literally). Through rainy Scottish fields at the G8 protests, in Palestinian desert, through hasty escapes from scenes-of-crime (ie. DSEi protest, I did something bad).

[Zion Gates]

i used to own a pair of docs, but then they got to small so i sold them to this kid at my school...they were really overpriced and a pain in the *** to put on, they look cool i guess

[coheneran]

Listen, I don't use leather either, but e-preaching is stupid. Stop it.

OK, sorry about the preaching, I've made my point, and methinks it a valid one.

[Rise Me Up]

OK, sorry about the preaching, I've made my point, and methinks it a valid one.


It's a valid point, but frankly, most people in this forum don't care, and don't want be preached to.

[gregulus]

OK, sorry about the preaching, I've made my point, and methinks it a valid one.
You're point's stupid. I don't wear docs, but I wear Timberland work boots, and I love them. Thank God that we use the resources we have.

[Ghostfire3]

I'd go with the 8761s

[coheneran]

You're point's stupid. I don't wear docs, but I wear Timberland work boots, and I love them. Thank God that we use the resources we have.

It's not stupid it all. It's completely valid. Doc Martens may have started out being a part of the punk attire, for their usefulness, but now every other shoe company makes a similar model, and the only reason Doc Martens are selling so well is that they have a reputation as being "punk" and so fashion punks buy them, just like they buy patches from big companies. You know I saw a Ramones Gabba Gabba Hey patch that says on the bottom in tiny sewed on writing that it is COPYRIGHTED? Gabba Gabba Hey is a copyrighted phrase. You see what fashion does? It fu'cks up the whole point of punk, and now Doc Martens, though they may once have been a rebellious icon, like mohicans, now they are just another fashion trend. And one that costs lives.
I'll discontinue the discussion now.

[DaveToopes]

It's not stupid it all. It's completely valid. Doc Martens may have started out being a part of the punk attire, for their usefulness, but now every other shoe company makes a similar model, and the only reason Doc Martens are selling so well is that they have a reputation as being "punk" and so fashion punks buy them, just like they buy patches from big companies. You know I saw a Ramones Gabba Gabba Hey patch that says on the bottom in tiny sewed on writing that it is COPYRIGHTED? Gabba Gabba Hey is a copyrighted phrase. You see what fashion does? It fu'cks up the whole point of punk, and now Doc Martens, though they may once have been a rebellious icon, like mohicans, now they are just another fashion trend. And one that costs lives.
I'll discontinue the discussion now.

Is that...preaching I hear?? But I thought...you said...STOP

Docs are nice, I want some, get the ones that everyone else recommended.

Coheneran is a fashion statement.

[(r)evolution]

i bought combat combat boots for 10 bucks (gave 'em a haggle) at an army-surplus. It's a good thing.

[Liebensaft]

Coheneran is a fashion statement.
It's pronounced "dumbass".

[Flagjacket]

It's not stupid it all. It's completely valid. Doc Martens may have started out being a part of the punk attire, for their usefulness, but now every other shoe company makes a similar model, and the only reason Doc Martens are selling so well is that they have a reputation as being "punk" and so fashion punks buy them, just like they buy patches from big companies. You know I saw a Ramones Gabba Gabba Hey patch that says on the bottom in tiny sewed on writing that it is COPYRIGHTED? Gabba Gabba Hey is a copyrighted phrase. You see what fashion does? It fu'cks up the whole point of punk, and now Doc Martens, though they may once have been a rebellious icon, like mohicans, now they are just another fashion trend. And one that costs lives.
I'll discontinue the discussion now.
Uh, Gabba Gabba hey was made up by the Ramones, put into a song which they also probably copyrighted, so I guess it'd make sense that it's copyrighted.

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

The really tall boots remind me of nazi boots for some reason haha. I wanna get a pair of Doc shoes tho... maybe 3989ZBEX-34 Black & White Smooth or 8B97JED Black Grizzly. The black grizzly ones look very comfortable and durable.

[AIRIC]

Boots are for construction workers.

[RudeBoyStompin]

I understand your point Conheneran but Doc's aren't popular for being "punk." They have a reputation for making quality boots for years. I got mine before I went vegetarian so I still wear them, probably will for a long time because my feet have stopped growing.

[DaveToopes]

Wait, this isn't a construction workers forum?

Stop talking about Docs, it makes me want them more, it also makes me want to listen to Skrewdriver, because they say Doc Martens in every song.

[AIRIC]

Wait, this isn't a construction workers forum?

Stop talking about Docs, it makes me want them more, it also makes me want to listen to Skrewdriver, because they say Doc Martens in every song.

Then you should probably stop reading the thread called "Docs". Fag.

[DaveToopes]

Then you should probably stop reading the thread called "Docs". Fag.

Did I say that I didn't want to dream about curbstomping people (you) while wearing Docs and listening to Skrewdriver?

Jerk.

[AIRIC]

No, why would I even think that? You said you wanted to stop hearing about Docs, yet you come into the Docs thread. Idiot.

[jonny no-name]

a little off topic but i was just wondering where i could get some quality non-boot, non-leather shoes. i searched and all i could find were dress shoes, and i have a short attention span so i stoped looking befor too long.

[mole]

Don't wear leather! Buy fakes, they're just as good. The whole Doc Marten "punk" look is just another ploy by the fashion industry to control a scene, like Blink 182. Go to different charity shops and find a comfy pair of steeltoed boots. The most comfy boots are ones already broken in.
buying old boots is nasty and gross. when you wear boots and break it in, the shoe breaks in to the shape of your foot. get used ones and they were probably used by an old fat sweaty skinhead anyway.

[AIRIC]

Eww skinheads.

[SantaDuJuan]

It's not stupid it all. It's completely valid. Doc Martens may have started out being a part of the punk attire, for their usefulness, but now every other shoe company makes a similar model, and the only reason Doc Martens are selling so well is that they have a reputation as being "punk" and so fashion punks buy them, just like they buy patches from big companies. You know I saw a Ramones Gabba Gabba Hey patch that says on the bottom in tiny sewed on writing that it is COPYRIGHTED? Gabba Gabba Hey is a copyrighted phrase. You see what fashion does? It fu'cks up the whole point of punk, and now Doc Martens, though they may once have been a rebellious icon, like mohicans, now they are just another fashion trend. And one that costs lives.
I'll discontinue the discussion now.

Grungies, Skinheads, etc use Docs.
Not just Punks.
They're quality European boots and have been for years.
PEOPLE LIKE TO WORK IN BOOTS THAT HAVE LASTED LONGER THAN YOU'VE BEEN ALIVE.
All cultures have fashions.
Trends don't last generations buddy.
You just suck for that one buddy.

[Culture Shock]

I have a pair of almost brand new 8 eye Doc's that are size UK9. These things do not fit and are useless to me so I am willing to part with them for next to nothing.

[Culture Shock]

They're quality European boots and have been for years.


Unfortunately, they are made in China now. All the more reason to not buy them (except for mine).

[nobody's hero999]

Yeah im probablym gonna get the 8761's because they were the first one to catch my eye and please dont preach to me about not wearing leather i have a leather jacket and im getting docs and i eat hamburgers, so i know animals are slaughtered so you dont need to tell me.

[Ghostfire3]

Good choice. Those look cooler, in my oppinion.

[mole]

id say get the tuk gripfast boots

[Weezerfan_returns]

you think that doc martens are the coolest invention,
since someone sliced a loaf of bread in someone elses kitchen,
the plain truth is that you just plain suck,
so why should i tell you not to waste a hundred bucks?

[Feel The Darkness]

Brazos Jungle Combat-styled work boots are the best and only $20 for a brand new pair. I've had mine for over 4 years and they're still in perfect condition. They're not steel-toe, which I would ahve preferred, but then I bought a pair Demonia's 10-i. Although they're not good quality and fell apart very quickly.

[Fritz Plays Bass]

I know you all had the vegan argument and I want to avoid that, but I'm planning on going vegan and I really would like a pair of 14 eye docs, but I can't really in good conscience buy them a few months before I go vegan. So I was wondering if anyone knew if Dr. Martens made any non-leather 14 eyes, or if there are any VERY good knock offs, and if so, where? Thanks in advance.

[Feel The Darkness]

I know you all had the vegan argument and I want to avoid that, but I'm planning on going vegan and I really would like a pair of 14 eye docs, but I can't really in good conscience buy them a few months before I go vegan. So I was wondering if anyone knew if Dr. Martens made any non-leather 14 eyes, or if there are any VERY good knock offs, and if so, where? Thanks in advance.
http://www.vegetarian-shoes.co.uk/pc-17-4-14-eye-boot-steel-toe.aspx

Not sure how good they really are as I've never ordered from there, but it's something.

[FunknPunk]

i already made a thread about this... :huh:

[ratsinthecity403]

...But no one needs a fu'cking pair of mass-produced leather boots when there are so many just as good substitutes around.

well, I have a small problem in that, while there are a lot of nice non-leather boots availbe online, I have no idea if they're going to fit me beforehand. Any suggestoins on how to avoid this?

[Feel The Darkness]

well, I have a small problem in that, while there are a lot of nice non-leather boots availbe online, I have no idea if they're going to fit me beforehand. Any suggestoins on how to avoid this?
...know what size foot ye have. Most shoes/boots are standard size unless otherwise noted.

[Culture Shock]

I just orderd a very fine pair of vegan boots.

[heyimsheep1]

I just orderd a very fine pair of vegan boots.
Where at?


$100 for any boots is crazy. Then again, I saw Pressure Point last night and all the skins were running over my Vans.

[Culture Shock]

Where at?


$100 for any boots is crazy. Then again, I saw Pressure Point last night and all the skins were running over my Vans.

http://www.mooshoes.com/invoice_variant.cgi?rm=edit&product_id=4784

Courtesy of Sam and yeah, they're pretty expensive. Hopefully they last.

[Brain Toad]

Where at?


$100 for any boots is crazy. Then again, I saw Pressure Point last night and all the skins were running over my Vans.

Boots are so expensive because there is a lot of work put into them, no matter who makes them or what they are made out of. The things are huge and usually made the last, so it's going to cost a bit extra.

[Jersey's Best Dancer]

you think that doc martens are the coolest invention,
since someone sliced a loaf of bread in someone elses kitchen,
the plain truth is that you just plain suck,
so why should i tell you not to waste a hundred bucks?

I was waiting for someone to mention The Suicide Machines - Vans Song... good song

[Fritz Plays Bass]

Yeah, I dunno, I guess I may have to go with the 14 eye Airseal from vegetarian shoes, but they're pretty effin expensive.

As far as Suicide Machines, I love em, and they've played that song both times I've seen them, and they're right, Vans are the best sneakers you can ever own. But they don't really stand up to the 6 inches of snow outside my dorm...

[heyimsheep1]

Boots are so expensive because there is a lot of work put into them, no matter who makes them or what they are made out of. The things are huge and usually made the last, so it's going to cost a bit extra.

How long does a pair last?

[Brain Toad]

How long does a pair last?

I'm not sure about Docs. But my cheapo store brands have lasted me about a year so far and only have some cracks in them.

[Sid]

The whole Doc Marten "punk" look is just another ploy by the fashion industry to control a scene,

If you're part of the punk "scene" or living the "lifestyle" something is being marketed towards you. Being part of any group makes you into a demographic. If you don't like it, don't bother with punk anymore.

Everything is being sold one way or the other, whether it's popular or not.

[DaveToopes]

How long does a pair last?

My friend has had his Docs for two years now, and they're still in great shape. My cousin has a pair too, and they're still in good shape after about two years also.

[Liebensaft]

http://shop.vans.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?section=shoes&catalogId=40000000002&storeId=2&productId=113741&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=4000&gender=76&mainPageCat=mens&mainNavCat=2&mainNavSubCat=4&mainNavDept=1114&shopperGroup=null

Vegan Vans.

[skavid]

http://shop.vans.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?section=shoes&catalogId=40000000002&storeId=2&productId=113741&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=4000&gender=76&mainPageCat=mens&mainNavCat=2&mainNavSubCat=4&mainNavDept=1114&shopperGroup=null

Vegan Vans.
NO. F-ING. WAY. And they're Rowleys? How much better can you get!?!

[Rise Me Up]

NO. F-ING. WAY. And they're Rowleys? How much better can you get!?!

Rowley's vegan.

[AIRIC]

I'm getting old school Rowleys for Christmas.

[Rise Me Up]

I remeber Johnny Rotten on the Flip video

"Geoff Rowley-he's a vegan. 'E likes little furry animals...Like's 'is p'ussy..."

[echos]

Why isn't this just in the pit?

[Rise Me Up]

Why isn't this just in the pit?


Why aren't you just in the pit?

[DaveToopes]

SNAP DOG!

It's because he probably likes Punk better, and Docs are big among punks.

[Weezerfan_returns]

i'm amazed that this thread has lasted this long...

[FunknPunk]

so'm I

/useless post