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Let's Chop Cats!
12-05-2005, 09:58 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/life/gallery/2005/x3/flash.htm - Pics
http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/x3/large.html - Trailer

Beast looks terrible as he doesn't look like beast but more of a blue Hellboy. Juggernaut looks horrible, not only does his outfit/helmet suck but he seems nothing like in the comicbooks or even the cartoon.

http://foxweb.marist.edu/users/james.sheehan/x3.JPG

Pop music sucks
12-05-2005, 10:05 PM
It's because David Hayer isn't the screenplay writer.

Those fools should've signed his contract as soon as the X-Men 2 hit opening day.

FlyingPaul_83
12-05-2005, 10:06 PM
Juggernaut looks gay

Mister_Che
12-05-2005, 10:08 PM
Did you really expect Juggernaut to be the size of a small tank in the movies? Honestly, I'm not surprised.

FlyingPaul_83
12-05-2005, 10:10 PM
they could've made him look like he does in the comics easily.

g°®†
12-05-2005, 10:12 PM
CGI ... they could've done it but I think they were cheap.

Let's Chop Cats!
12-05-2005, 10:14 PM
Beast should have been CGI. Juggernaut I would never expect them to get right, but I'd prefer them to have just had the actor blown up on a greenscreen or something.

e p
12-05-2005, 10:17 PM
gah. I cant get the trailer working.

Has Jean switched sides I assume?

g°®†
12-05-2005, 10:22 PM
Beast should have been CGI. Juggernaut I would never expect them to get right, but I'd prefer them to have just had the actor blown up on a greenscreen or something.


They could've used the same technology as in LOTR .... and Juggernaut should be HUGE, maroon, and have a saucer helmut and not whatever he has for the movie.


I hate the xmen movies ... they're ruining a great thing.

Pop music sucks
12-05-2005, 10:22 PM
I'm not sure, this version is very choppy. They added so many new characters it's wrong.

Let's Chop Cats!
12-05-2005, 10:23 PM
gah. I cant get the trailer working.

Has Jean switched sides I assume?
Well I don't want to give any spoiler's away but assuming you don't know anything about the comics/cartoon.......
Spoiler!!!!!!
Jean turns into a super powerful mutant named Phoenix and becomes evil. In the end she lives basically. I assume they're changing the plot of her becoming Phoenix since the real version would take too long.
Spoiler!!!!!!

ThePatient
12-05-2005, 10:30 PM
I hate you Quicktime! I hate you I hate you I hate you!

Tiger
12-05-2005, 10:33 PM
I want Archangel and I want Archangel now.

IbanezSamurai
12-05-2005, 11:11 PM
So yeah, no Gambit!

g°®†
12-05-2005, 11:47 PM
NO GAMBIT?!?!?!?!


I immediately don't like this movie.

spitfirejunky
12-06-2005, 01:07 AM
Pieces of ****ing ****. No Gambit. ****ing pieces of ****.

spitfirejunky
12-06-2005, 01:09 AM
In the original saga, I recall that Jean was the world's only hope against Apocalypse. I'm just gonna assume this movie lost all relevence to the original, good story.

Pop music sucks
12-06-2005, 02:04 AM
Again, because the studio waited sooo long to sign David Hayter's contract.

Since they waited months to consider it, he left and pursued the Iron Man movie.

That is the major reason why X-Men 3 will not be as great as the first two.

Jasarn
12-06-2005, 02:19 AM
It's good that all the previous actors a back. I hate sequals that have different actors.

Glutious_Maximus
12-06-2005, 02:39 AM
So yeah, no Gambit!


this honestly sucks how can they have no gambit
my opion they are ruining x-men !!

Ramsey
12-06-2005, 03:18 PM
I am excited about the new movie and the trailer is great. Beast also looks awesome. I am disappointed with Juggernaut, but who cares.

thedeadwalk!
12-06-2005, 03:52 PM
I just wish Juggernaut's helmet was like it used to be. Other than that I'm looking forward to it; Beast looks good, as does Angel, the story looks to be packed, and I don't really care about Gambit (you wanna fight about it?).

Kithkin
12-06-2005, 04:19 PM
Yeah, his helmet looks just like Magneto's now.

The helmet is the most important part of his armor because that's what protects him from Mind Attacks.

Pop music sucks
12-06-2005, 04:25 PM
Cause we all know that since Juggernaut found that ruby, he's really susceptible to mind attacks

Poor Juggernaut, went from reknowned archaelogist to retarded smashernaut:p

Junooni
12-06-2005, 04:41 PM
Man...

GAMBIT! GAMBIT! GAMBIT! GAMBIT! GAMBIT!

Iron Bug
12-06-2005, 05:42 PM
If you read the stuff next to the pictures from the first link, it says they're making a Wolverine spin-off movie.

Let's Chop Cats!
12-06-2005, 06:03 PM
They've been making a Wolverine spine off movie for like 3 years now.

Turkish
12-06-2005, 06:24 PM
I am excited about the new movie and the trailer is great. Beast also looks awesome. I am disappointed with Juggernaut, but who cares.


Agreed, and I don't think they could've chosen a better voice for beast other than Kelsey Grammar.


I don't care about Gambit, I'm pissed they wrote out Nightcrawler.

Shadows
12-06-2005, 06:47 PM
Juggernaut disappoints me. He was a huge, menacing character back in the day, but now he looks like another average guy. Gambit was my favorite, so I'd like to see him in there, but since he wasn't in any of the past movies I'm not really missing much.

I'm excited, even if they are hating on Hayter.

AA-12
12-06-2005, 08:26 PM
Meh, I think this one looks awesome. The previous two were horrible though.

Sebek
12-06-2005, 09:28 PM
Besides a lack of Gambit ( :evil: ) I will go see this movie.

Rusty Metal Head
12-07-2005, 11:37 AM
http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2440YZMHF47H102OACI2GQDRVU

Heres the teaser for you to download.

If someone has allready provided a thread with a link then sorry :/

I like how it looks. If you pause it when Magneto is talking to the mutants you can see jugganaut next to him...with his helmet "gasp" off!

no doubt freaky fans will hate that but..tough luck for them

Mister_Che
12-07-2005, 11:45 AM
I liked what I saw. Except for the fact that there was no sign of Colossus or Nightcrawler.

thedeadwalk!
12-07-2005, 12:14 PM
Colossus is in the cast at IMDB, and I think he was in the beginning of the trailer in the other thread, in the back.

I should also post the link to the other thread:

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=420906

Rusty Metal Head
12-07-2005, 04:28 PM
Good merge there Reiner....

Yeah Collosus is in the background. Ive heard that him and Juggy have a scrap...a BIG one

Turkish
12-07-2005, 06:37 PM
I think it looks really cool


plus Vinnie Jones is Juggernaut so that's a +

I think Beast looks cool too


I have high hopes for it.


plus Famke Janssen looks good in those shorts.

IbanezSamurai
12-08-2005, 10:14 PM
http://users.757.org/~tim/juggernaut/jugger1.jpg

Now thats Juggernaut.

FlyingPaul_83
12-08-2005, 10:17 PM
Again, because the studio waited sooo long to sign David Hayter's contract.

Since they waited months to consider it, he left and pursued the Iron Man movie.

That is the major reason why X-Men 3 will not be as great as the first two.


David Hayter?

Let's Chop Cats!
12-08-2005, 10:24 PM
He is the writer of the first two. Since Fox sucks they took way too long to sign him and Singer thus they left the project.

spitfirejunky
12-09-2005, 11:19 AM
Am I the only one here who's dissappointed that they have now permanently corrupted the original story?

Let's Chop Cats!
12-09-2005, 11:22 AM
I found out about a lot of this stuff a few months ago and have been pretty bummed since Singer left.

Rusty Metal Head
12-09-2005, 08:16 PM
Singer and Hayter leaving = possible bad ending for the trilogy.

Heck maybe the move on to Onslaught next..judging by whats happening (and its a little late to mention Apocalypse) he might be the next step.

Anyone else see the "fast ball" special? When you see Wolverine flying past the sceen pause it and youll see Colosus throwing him...

DJ Ducksauce
12-09-2005, 08:33 PM
I'm sorry, but the pictures look pretty gay.

I have yet to see the second movie. I never remember to pick it up at the rental store.

EDIT: Except the Halle Berry pic. She can't look bad.

IBANESZ SAMURAI: Reduce your picture please. It's breaking the page!

Rusty Metal Head
12-09-2005, 08:40 PM
Then pick it up

PowerStamp
12-10-2005, 12:54 AM
I think it looks cool...Kelsey Grammer will be amazing as Beast, Angel looks cool...Juggernaut, meh, but oh well.

No Gambit = :(

Oh, regarding Nightcrawler being written out, it was basically the actors choice. He complained every chance he got about the makeup process and instead of making him do it again they wrote him out.

Let's Chop Cats!
12-10-2005, 12:57 AM
Colossus and Mystique pictures founded hidden in X3 teaser site.
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3152/x3colossus5fb.jpg
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/7087/0116ht.jpg

Rusty Metal Head
05-10-2006, 08:41 AM
I know people dont like it when old threads are bumped but hell I wasnt going to start a new thread for this:

Fastball special (dont watch if you want to savour the moment for when you see the full movie X fans)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7aHf5rDwas

I dont know if anyone has posted it before nor do I care

[Shadowfox]
05-13-2006, 10:58 AM
I think this will turn out decently, but when I read there was no Nightcrawler, I was pissed. I, for one, was not expecting the huge Juggernaut from the comics to be in the movie. Sure, it would be nice, but to your average viewer, they may just think it looks off.

Colossus vs Juggernaut should be fun to watch, and a fully iced Iceman.

If the line "I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!" is in there, I'll laugh my *** off.

burning star IV
05-13-2006, 01:18 PM
']I think this will turn out decently, but when I read there was no Nightcrawler, I was pissed. I, for one, was not expecting the huge Juggernaut from the comics to be in the movie. Sure, it would be nice, but to your average viewer, they may just think it looks off.

Colossus vs Juggernaut should be fun to watch, and a fully iced Iceman.

If the line "I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!" is in there, I'll laugh my *** off.


It won't be.

Let's Chop Cats!
05-13-2006, 01:28 PM
http://www.dell.com/html/us/xmen/index.html

7 minute preview from the other night.

g°®†
05-13-2006, 01:42 PM
I want to see this movie. Despite where they fell short, it still looks great.

PDWAB
05-13-2006, 01:44 PM
I don't like Storm :-/ But Beast is pretty cool, and hopefully there will be some totally bitchin' fight scenes.

Thor
05-13-2006, 01:50 PM
Even though Gambit isn't going to be in the movie, I've still got high hopes for it. I bet Angel is going to be pretty beastly.

...and I have heard that this isn't going to be the last XMen movie, even though it's called The Last Stand. Maybe Gambit will be in that one.

Let's Chop Cats!
05-13-2006, 01:50 PM
Halle Berry needs to stop acting.

g°®†
05-13-2006, 01:52 PM
Halle Berry needs to stop acting.



Forgetting Halle Berry ...... Having sex with STORM would be absolutely amazing.


amirite?

Thor
05-13-2006, 02:02 PM
Forgetting Halle Berry ...... Having sex with STORM would be absolutely amazing.


amirite?
You'd probably get struck by lightning at least once.

PDWAB
05-13-2006, 02:05 PM
More like she'd be frigid rite rite

burning star IV
05-13-2006, 02:47 PM
http://www.dell.com/html/us/xmen/index.html

7 minute preview from the other night.


Ok that is pretty cool.

Kithkin
05-13-2006, 04:50 PM
Cause we all know that since Juggernaut found that ruby, he's really susceptible to mind attacks

Poor Juggernaut, went from reknowned archaelogist to retarded smashernaut:p

So... 5 months later...

It isn't that he has a weak mind, it's just that it's the only place on his body that isn't invulnerable....

dazmo
05-13-2006, 06:48 PM
OK i've got 2 questions about the first trailer:

1: who is it that Bobby's kissing, could that be shadowcat, because i know shes at least a little bit more involved in this movie (apposed (sp?) to the 1 and a half seconds in the other movies)

2: Could that chick that says to Xaviour "I'm more powerful than you" possibly be Apocalypse? I know Apocalypse is traditionally a dude, but maybe they could work that into the story as Apocalypse being the "cure" for mutants

EDIT: I just watched the 5 minute trailer, thats the best one i've seen. That chick who says shes more powerful has quicksilvers power and "more". That is shadowcat that bobby's about to kiss. there was more but i can't remember

shaqadelic
05-13-2006, 07:15 PM
Um, am I only one who is gonna reserve opinions till I actually saw the movie?

dazmo
05-13-2006, 07:20 PM
probably :p

unComfortablyNumb
05-13-2006, 08:35 PM
I had my doubts about the movie, but that 7 minute clip looked pretty sweet.

Let's Chop Cats!
05-25-2006, 02:04 PM
So whose going at midnight? I may be, just because if I see it anytime the rest of this weekend I'll be annoyed with all the faggots there. Also I'm an X-men nerd.

thedeadwalk!
05-25-2006, 02:32 PM
I'm seeing it tomorrow during school hours. It's the last day for the high school kids, so I'll barely be able to get in there with a small crowd while people are still talking about it.

Also, having been a projectionist and seeing the movies not only early but with just a handful of other people was amazing for me. That's the only thing I miss about that job.

Let's Chop Cats!
05-26-2006, 02:15 AM
Well that was ****ing terrible. The scene at the end of the credits was so bad too. Completely butchered the comics and totally ruined a lot of the characters. Pretty much expected this though. If you don't mind how it completely strays from the comics, you might like it.

+'s
Beast fighting
Iceman turning all ice
Kitty was cute
Moira McTaggart nod
Magneto the White being the only good acting

-'s
Halle Berry in general
Angel's character
80% of the characters being way out of character
Juggernaut actually saying "I'm the Juggernaut bitch" in his goofy accent.

The_Berzerker
05-26-2006, 02:29 AM
Yeah i found that to be true. Also the fact that Beast looked like a man who was in a washing machine with a bunch of blue socks and hadnt shaved 6 years prior.
There where way to many explosions for my taste. I mean i like the occasional explosion but almost every scene there was something in flames. This movie really let me down as i was all hyped up for it being great and better than the second one. Heads are going to be caved for this

6.8/10

djs
05-26-2006, 02:44 AM
yeah, Kelsey Grammer as Beast kinda sucked. I didnt see him as a mutant, but more as a blue hairy Fraiser.

I didnt really like it much either...the end made it better cause you know that not everyone died, but there wasn't too much of a change from x2. Angel/Gabriel/whatever his name is seemed totally useless. His only purpose was to be the reason why the 'cure' was made, but everything else he did was random. I liked some of the comedy, the fights, and some of the effects, but most was kinda crappy.

griftadan
05-26-2006, 02:51 AM
Juggernaut actually saying "I'm the Juggernaut bitch" in his goofy accent.

see i'm not an xmen fan so this is what actually made the movie for me.

G00b3r
05-26-2006, 03:15 AM
ya angel was pretty useless. so was that asian guy with the spikes coming out of him. man he was funny...... "hey storm is making a storm, let me pull out my spikes and do nothing"

but really, i liked the movie. just a lot more flaws than i thought..... waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more...... but not shabby enough to get me to dislike it. kept me on the edge of my seat, kind of......

JBJ
05-26-2006, 03:50 AM
i don't get it, why do comic book fans make such a big deal out of iceman fully turning into ice? my friend was glad about that happening. anyway, the movie was pretty funny overall, it really did seem like a 13 year old put it together with the explosions and subpar dialogue. the series really needed singer to finish it off.

+3kk!
05-26-2006, 03:59 AM
i read the ending somewhere, and what happened to magneto was wrong.......

JBJ
05-26-2006, 04:14 AM
yeah, magnetron got shanked, wheels (picard) exploded, ray-ban was raped by phoenix, flaming hot cheetos lost in a pokeduel against dentyne ice, the snatch guy said "imma jugganot bich", and wolf-boy killed phoenix. hxc

Tillmon
05-26-2006, 04:35 AM
I just saw the midnight showing, it was pretty good.

Tillmon
05-26-2006, 04:36 AM
i read the ending somewhere, and what happened to magneto was wrong.......

But he didn't actually lose his powers, because at the VERY end he moves a metal chess piece. It's intense.

Tillmon
05-26-2006, 04:39 AM
Crap, what happened at the end of the credits? I left the theater before

+3kk!
05-26-2006, 08:00 AM
But he didn't actually lose his powers, because at the VERY end he moves a metal chess piece. It's intense.


a slight wobble i read? still its very wrong......i would prefer him to end with more style then just turning human.

bah, i want him to win, but that wont happen.

shaqadelic
05-26-2006, 10:19 AM
SPOILER HERE

Crap, what happened at the end of the credits? I left the theater before

Remember the vegetable dude Prof X was asking if it's ethical to put someone else's conciousness into? Well, he did it. You see a scene of him waking up and saying "Hello Mora".

BTW, I think the movie is really good. You get a feeling that the stakes have been raised and that is welcomed. Also, it avoids the cliche happy ending which is a plus for me. I am not so particular about it not abiding to the comic; heck, the previous installments didn't too, so why expect this to be any different?

The only dissapointment is Phoneix in the end did very little; although to match genocide of a planet like in the comic is quite impossible in the movie. And, what's up with Wolverine having supercharged healing whe he charged towards Jean?

On a another note, Famke Janssen is mindblowing hot IMO.

a slight wobble i read? still its very wrong......i would prefer him to end with more style then just turning human.

bah, i want him to win, but that wont happen, which means a sequel has alot of potential storyline.

Actually, the scene implies that the cure is temporary.

Bus
05-26-2006, 10:20 AM
Meh. I liked it, but a lot of parts didn't seem to fit in with the rest of the series/comic books. And it was really cheesey. Everything Professor X said was a pun (something about Wolverine being an "animal", "You should know how fast the weather can change" to Storm), that multiple guy had really gay lines, the "juggernaut bitch" part was stupid.

If they would've fixed up the dialogue a little it could've been better. At least the action parts were pretty entertaining. (Beast fighting ++)

Chrysostom
05-26-2006, 10:25 AM
So yeah, no Gambit!

I'm liking the Gambit support. Easily the best X-man.

G00b3r
05-26-2006, 03:10 PM
what's with pyro being able to make fire now? he said in x2 that he could only manipulate it. i asked my friend this, and he said it had to with "evolving"

oh, and xmen 4 has been confirmed btw, a long with a movie coming out next year called "Magneto"

Chanandler Bong
05-26-2006, 03:19 PM
Hugh Jackman said on Leno the other night that this was the last X-Men movie.

Who's the Boss?
05-26-2006, 03:23 PM
We can't have sigs but from now on every post I make is going to have The helmet is the most important part of his armor because that's what protects him from Mind Attacks. at the end of it.

Let's Chop Cats!
05-26-2006, 03:38 PM
what's with pyro being able to make fire now? he said in x2 that he could only manipulate it. i asked my friend this, and he said it had to with "evolving"

oh, and xmen 4 has been confirmed btw, a long with a movie coming out next year called "Magneto"
He had an attachment to his wrist which created a flame like a lighter and he then manipulated it.
Hugh Jackman said on Leno the other night that this was the last X-Men movie.
In that story arch. They want to continue the franchise, just won't be udner that story. Probably have the newer X-Men in the next one. Also there is the Wolverine and Magmneto spinoffs.

JBJ
05-26-2006, 05:10 PM
We can't have sigs but from now on every post I make is going to have at the end of it.
yeah, that's something i would probably pay money to have put on his epitaph

Iscariot
05-26-2006, 06:17 PM
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER

Well, this movie was worth the $5 I spent to see it, but I have to say it was way too short and very anti-climatic. I was especially disappointed with Rouge getting "the cure". I really was expecting her to make some sort of amazing comeback at the end of the movie. Also, killing off the professor was uber, uber gay.

TheDMV
05-26-2006, 11:09 PM
I just got back from it, and I liked it. Any of you guys stay to watch the extra scene after the credits? It was rather shocking.

g°®†
05-26-2006, 11:24 PM
stupid movie ... Anti-climatic, they killed off the best characters, didn't develop some of the characters who had potential, ruined the characters who pwned in the comics, left big holes in the story, and the PG-13 rating didn't help it one bit. If you're going to do Xmen, do it right .... R rated violence and X rated superheroes.

gah! :mad:

shaqadelic
05-27-2006, 12:07 AM
Bah, SPOILER HERE





The Prof is still alive, kids. Only Jean and Cycolops are dead. And in even in the comic, Jean came back after Phoneix died.

g°®†
05-27-2006, 12:33 AM
Bah, SPOILER HERE





The Prof is still alive, kids. Only Jean and Cycolops are dead. And in even in the comic, Jean came back after Phoneix died.



How does the professor come back after spontaneously combusting into thin air? And Rogue ... stupid bitch. :mad:

shaqadelic
05-27-2006, 12:50 AM
How does the professor come back after spontaneously combusting into thin air? And Rogue ... stupid bitch. :mad:

Remember the brain-dead dude Prof X was asking if it's ethical to put someone else's conciousness into? After the credit, he telepathically said "Hello Moira".

And I think Rouge did a reasonable thing; she wanted to feel touch so why not take the cure? And besides, if my love interest looks like that, I would want her to take the cure if you know what my shallow arse mean. Most importantly though, the cure is temporary.

g°®†
05-27-2006, 01:00 AM
Remember the brain-dead dude Prof X was asking if it's ethical to put someone else's conciousness into? After the credit, he telephatically said "Hello Moira".

And I think Rouge did a reasonable thing; she wanted to feel touch so why not take the cure? And besides, if my love interest looks like that, I would want her to take the cure if you know what my shallow arse mean. Most importantly though, the cure is temporary.



Apparently, she never heard of condoms. gah!


The rogue in the comics was bangin' hot ... I'm sure she had it figured out. Anyway, I was too dissappointed to stay to watch the tidbit at the end of the credits.

shaqadelic
05-27-2006, 01:07 AM
Apparently, she never heard of condoms. gah!



Nah, that doesn't work for her. In fact, as far as I know, the comic version had no skin-to-skin physical contact either.

g°®†
05-27-2006, 01:09 AM
just kidnap the kemo kid and have him watch ... their powers are annulled when he's near, amirite?

Bus
05-27-2006, 01:09 AM
I don't get how the Professor's mind was put into another dude's body after he was completely disintegrated. There's nothing left.

shaqadelic
05-27-2006, 01:16 AM
just kidnap the kemo kid and have him watch ... their powers are annulled when he's near, amirite?

Haha, or take the cure? Man, after the movie, I have a feeling Bobby is getting some wild action.

I don't get how the Professor's mind was put into another dude's body after he was completely disintegrated. There's nothing left.

He is one of the most powerful telepath in the world, definitely something he can do by himself.

Bus
05-27-2006, 01:20 AM
So are we assuming he did this before he was wiped out?

Edit: k

shaqadelic
05-27-2006, 01:25 AM
Yes, that seems to be the case.

LittlePound
05-27-2006, 01:31 AM
i dunno, i was kinda disappointed about killing off the best characters (jean, cyclops, prof. xavier but apparently he's not dead yet) but i did like the introduction of beast. He's wild!!! They should have had him in the last movies too considering he's sucha main character in the comics. And where did nightcrawler go, he magically disappeared after xmen2. I liked juggernauts appearance but what was with that dinky little helmet, his costume in the comic books was so much cooler and they didn't build enough on angel boy's character. I really did like the ending though, leaving it open for another movie but it thought jean's character in this movie was rather dumb. Oh well.

spitfirejunky
05-27-2006, 01:52 AM
The Beast didn't have the same intellectual flare as he did in the comics. But the movie was a lot better than I thought it would be.

Turkish
05-27-2006, 02:06 AM
I just wanted to say one thing.

This movie was atrocious.

That is all.

Tillmon
05-27-2006, 02:20 AM
what's with pyro being able to make fire now? he said in x2 that he could only manipulate it. i asked my friend this, and he said it had to with "evolving"

oh, and xmen 4 has been confirmed btw, a long with a movie coming out next year called "Magneto"

He doesn't make it, he had a little rig set up on his hand that was hooked up to his lighter.

Tillmon
05-27-2006, 02:33 AM
The Beast wasn't convincing. He just looked like Kelsey Grammar with blue makeup.

Also, it didn't make sense that his hand turned normal around that kid, since him being blue doesn't have anything to do with his mutation.

Also, why didn't Wolverine just stick Jean with one of the cure needles instead of stabbing her in the stomach with his claws?

shaqadelic
05-27-2006, 02:56 AM
Also, it didn't make sense that his hand turned normal around that kid, since him being blue doesn't have anything to do with his mutation.

Also, why didn't Wolverine just stick Jean with one of the cure needles instead of stabbing her in the stomach with his claws?

Yeah, the movie takes Beast turning blue as part of the mutation. Something, which I believe has been done before in other X Men continuity.

Good point about that. One explanation against it is that Prof X explained Jean's power developed in her unconcious mind, not physically which means the cure won't have an effect. Another is that maybe there are no needles left.

Pop music sucks
05-27-2006, 03:07 AM
I'll always remember The Beast turning blue because of a failed experiment he conducted on himself.

Seafroggys
05-27-2006, 03:14 AM
i saw the midnight showing.....great movie. Not as good as the first two, though.

I almost burst into tears when X was vaporized.

Dinosawesome
05-27-2006, 08:43 AM
Yeah, I felt bad about SPOILER Xavier being obliterated, but overall it was okay. Not awesome but a good enough no brainer to waste a few moments.

ZaaR
05-27-2006, 09:46 AM
i thought the movie was meh. could have been much better. all my friends i saw it with thought it was terrible.

Kurtz
05-27-2006, 12:13 PM
Saw it last night, I thought it was pretty good.

I thought it was pretty funny when everyone in the theater gasped really loud when Xavier exploded.

AmericanWeiner
05-27-2006, 12:22 PM
The Beast wasn't convincing. He just looked like Kelsey Grammar with blue makeup.

Also, it didn't make sense that his hand turned normal around that kid, since him being blue doesn't have anything to do with his mutation.

Also, why didn't Wolverine just stick Jean with one of the cure needles instead of stabbing her in the stomach with his claws?

It would have disintegrated?

Guess what? I saw it for free and it was worth every dime.

There were things I liked and didn't like, but I'm no X-men junky

Nazi Bastard
05-27-2006, 12:33 PM
Wow, I saw this last night. Amaaaaaaaazing. Way better than the others.

The Minstrel in the Gallery
05-27-2006, 01:08 PM
There were way too many cheesy one-liners, especially when Wolverine kicks that guy in the nuts and says "grow these back." If they fixed the lame dialogue it would have been alot better. Archangel was also pretty lame.

shaqadelic
05-27-2006, 01:37 PM
There were way too many cheesy one-liners, especially when Wolverine kicks that guy in the nuts and says "grow these back." If they fixed the lame dialogue it would have been alot better. Archangel was also pretty lame.

Haha, the whole cinema went to an instant applause after Wolverine delivered the nuts kick. It was awesome and I probably will remember that scene the most.

And, btw, it is just Angel. Archangel has some added background.

Bus
05-27-2006, 01:44 PM
Oh man. Don't get me started on the people clapping during the show. That is horrible.

shaqadelic
05-27-2006, 01:48 PM
What's so bad about it? Unless they do so every single scene, it makes watching the movie more entertaining.

JBJ
05-27-2006, 01:57 PM
I almost burst into tears when X was vaporized.
http://www.acclaimimages.com/_gallery/_SM2/0095-0509-0311-1925_SM2.jpg

blink1822222
05-27-2006, 02:15 PM
Oh man. Don't get me started on the people clapping during the show. That is horrible.
That must just be an American thing. There was this sad middle-aged guy that kept laughing at the most unfunny parts of the film. He laughed the whole time Xavier was being held in the air by Jean. Probably because his face kept "rippling".

JBJ
05-27-2006, 02:29 PM
yeah i laughed when i saw the face rippling and the beginning when he had thirty pounds of make-up caked on his face and he looked all computer generated. it was hard to not laugh at some parts of the movie.

shaqadelic
05-27-2006, 02:56 PM
It is kinda lame when people pay attention to how much make up the actor is wearing.

TheDMV
05-27-2006, 03:13 PM
Yeah, the movie takes Beast turning blue as part of the mutation. Something, which I believe has been done before in other X Men continuity.

same with juggernaut. he supposedly got his powers from a magic stone but in the movie leech prevented his powers, too.

JBJ
05-27-2006, 03:29 PM
It is kinda lame when people pay attention to how much make up the actor is wearing.
the guy looked silly as hell, i'm sorry, i just found it funny that that's how they made him look 20 years younger.

Bus
05-27-2006, 03:37 PM
What's so bad about it? Unless they do so every single scene, it makes watching the movie more entertaining.

It got very annoying and repetitive, and it was to the point where it almost became embarassing. The worst part was when they clapped as the Fox Studios logo came up.

funluvinhobo
05-27-2006, 07:14 PM
the guy looked silly as hell, i'm sorry, i just found it funny that that's how they made him look 20 years younger.


lol saying silly as hell is silly as hell!

I havent seen X-men, a couple of my mates went to see it and they all loved it.

JBJ
05-27-2006, 09:53 PM
The worst part was when they clapped as the Fox Studios logo came up.
yeah, the audience will pretty much clap at any change after waiting for 1+ hours in front of a theater screen showing nothing.

Black Ink
05-28-2006, 12:10 AM
I just got back from seeing it and loved it.

Seafroggys
05-28-2006, 12:23 AM
just saw it a second time. Still just as good.

The 'two' endings kick ***, probably the best endings of all three.

JBJ
05-28-2006, 12:44 AM
so no chance at all of a fourth installment?

DarkScoot
05-28-2006, 12:48 AM
On the contrary.

To anyone except who stayed until the credits were over:

**SPOILER**

























Charles Xavier isn't dead.












































end spoiler.

The Haitian
05-28-2006, 01:01 AM
I saw it. I thought it was great. Yeah it didn't follow the cartoons / comics really but it was good none the less.

dazmo
05-28-2006, 02:01 AM
I'm going to c it in less than an hour

JBJ
05-28-2006, 02:06 AM
Charles Xavier isn't dead.

dude, you spoiled it.

dazmo
05-28-2006, 02:21 AM
so no chance at all of a fourth installment?
:confused: I thought they already announced there would be a X-Men4 and also a movie called "Magneto" (which is coming out next yr, plus a movie about wolverine).

I might be wrong though, I've been trying to avoid this thread becoz of spoilers and it might've been dismissed already

JBJ
05-28-2006, 02:24 AM
was only able to come up with this on imdb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0772145/

maybe it was announced somewhere though.

dazmo
05-28-2006, 06:00 AM
WARNING: Post contains spoilers








Just got back from XM3, and i dunno if its just me, or does something seem a little bit different about Jean.

I think she might be doing some thing new with her hair.

Hmmmm they'll have a tough time doing an XM4 considering how many people they killed off, Though it would be good if none of them really died, and they couldn't really do an XM4 without Xavier (Apparently he's noit really dead), Scott, jean, all the little people that got ripped apart.

Also, sucks to be mystique, you know "pro-cure".

But if they did a XM4 they could explain that the cure is only temporary (as shown at the end of movie) and that pheonix only...i dunno shrunk the people? any way i liked the movie, but it was kind of spoiled by the amount of trailers i saw.

Dinosawesome
05-28-2006, 07:00 AM
On the contrary.

To anyone except who stayed until the credits were over:

**SPOILER**

























Charles Xavier isn't dead.












































end spoiler.
plz explain

ariathe9th
05-28-2006, 08:17 AM
red the fred nath u idiot its been explained like 4 times

AtomShip
05-28-2006, 08:24 AM
My sister was telling me about it, I think the "essence" of a telepathic mutant can place itself into a person with a coma?

Tillius
05-28-2006, 10:53 AM
Saw it last night.

I thought it was a pretty good movie.

I knew they'd kill Xavier, but I mean, what the hell, so early in the film? However, I didn't stick around to see the scene after the credits, so I guess there's more to it than I know.

RideTheSpiral
05-28-2006, 11:14 AM
what a crappy crappy movie. hey lets introduce all these new characters that are vital to the plot and give them one line. woo explosions rawr.

Scoot
05-28-2006, 11:22 AM
Okay, I'm explaining.
































































At the end of the movie Magneto made the chess piece move, right?

Wrong.

If you had the brains to stay until the credits were over, they played another thirty seconds of footage that showed the female doctor from the newscast they watched earlier in the movie walking into the room where the man that she said had no consciousness was laying.

She looks at him and he says "Hello, Moira." in Xavier's voice.

She says, "Charles?"

Basically, his consciousness went into the other man's body.

Proof: http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/709/709574p1.html























































So...yeah. If you're seeing the movie soon, be sure to stay a little extra time and wait until the credits are over.

But it's already been explained like 4 times so this is just for people who are too lazy to read the other 7 pages.

The Haitian
05-28-2006, 11:56 AM
SPOILER

Here is the video after the credits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQSu6_psTRE&search=x-men

Scoot
05-28-2006, 11:58 AM
Can you say bootleg/lawsuit?

Xploding Sun
05-28-2006, 12:41 PM
SPOILER

Here is the video after the credits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQSu6_psTRE&search=x-men

this is a direct quote:

"Oh what the ****?"

Po0sH
05-28-2006, 02:25 PM
***WARNING****SPOILERS*****



I saw X men 3 yesterday, and in my opinion, it completely ruined the trilogy. First off, The change from Singer to Ratner was probably a distinct difference. There were so many things wrong with it, its not even funny. It was too rushed, too many things in such a short amount of time.

1) Cyclops, a main character, after mourning over the loss of Jean, and the fact that he(in the comics) could help cope with Jean turning into Phoenix, is killed, without even a scene for it. That is pathetic. I don't think Ratner understood the effectiveness of killing off a character. When Jean "died" in the 2nd one, we were moved. When Cyclops died, we were like wtf?! The power of love is very strong, and it seemed Jean killed him without a blink, and we couldn't see the conflict of Cyclops trying to stop her, atleast that would have helped...we were just left with his glasses.

2)Prof Xavier dying...I will admit, I was a bit moved at this scene, but I still felt no justification for why his death was necessary to prove she is powerful and is unwilling to be "held back" by Prof X.

3)Magneto has become a one-sided bastard. I get that villians are evil, but they have other emotions besides pure evil. I think I blame the writers because Ian McKellen is a great actor. First off, when Mystique was turned back into a human, come on. I think he said, "Sorry, you are one of them now," and then just walked away. That pissed me off. How could you feel no emotion whatsoever, when Mystique, a great companion dies, and also when Charles died. Oh, and don't get me started on the line, "Send in the pawns" first or whatever. So he created an army of mutants, which only like 2 used their powers when fighting the X men, they just ran in like midieval peasants only to be slaughtered by what, 6 x men? So even though he is fighting for mutants, he treats them as trash? He built an army only to have them slaughtered instantly...right...

4)Wolverine killing Jean...are you kidding me? I don't remember it occuring like that in the comics

5)Storm...Apparently there were rumors that Halle wanted more screen time, congrats, she got it, I hope she is happy that we had to listen to her useless comments while with that other time, we could have gotten to connect with the other characters. In the previous two, since there weren't as many characters, we got to understand them all, and their emotions and such. This one, Ratner just threw so many mutants at you, just to "spice" things up, when he ruined the character interaction that was supposed to occur.

6) Angel...what was with all the promotion, and then he has like 3 min onscreen, just to fly around and show off his wings...wtf

7) That interaction between Kitty and Iceman...ok yeah we get it, its to create the need for Rogue to get the cure...and atleast if you bothered filming that scene for Rogue, atleast make her do something. I don't recall her fighting at all in that movie.

8)What the hell is up with Phoenix? Where is the phoenix that we want to see, with the flames and such, that show her as a goddess and not an evil demon? They made her look like an evil witch. Also, Dumb Magneto wanted her to use her powers to its effectiveness, then why did he have her stand there like a stupid moron during the whole movie?

I can't remember anything else. believe me there are other things that irritated me. Although I will admit, the FX were spectacular, and Beast was awesome. But, poor directing and even worse script writing really screwed this one up. This could have been an amazing, AMAZING movie, but sadly, we are left with a blockbuster flop. If I think of other points, I will edit them in.

Kingofdudes
05-28-2006, 05:24 PM
5)Storm...Apparently there were rumors that Halle wanted more screen time, congrats, she got it, I hope she is happy that we had to listen to her useless comments while with that other time, we could have gotten to connect with the other characters.
I was thinking about this, I think that is why they killed of Cyclops, to give her more screen time.

shaqadelic
05-28-2006, 10:42 PM
Actually, the actor who played Cyclops has conflicting schedule, that's why he got killed off early.

3)Magneto has become a one-sided bastard. I get that villians are evil, but they have other emotions besides pure evil. I think I blame the writers because Ian McKellen is a great actor. First off, when Mystique was turned back into a human, come on. I think he said, "Sorry, you are one of them now," and then just walked away. That pissed me off. How could you feel no emotion whatsoever, when Mystique, a great companion dies, and also when Charles died. Oh, and don't get me started on the line, "Send in the pawns" first or whatever. So he created an army of mutants, which only like 2 used their powers when fighting the X men, they just ran in like midieval peasants only to be slaughtered by what, 6 x men? So even though he is fighting for mutants, he treats them as trash? He built an army only to have them slaughtered instantly...right...

First, Mystique didn't die. Second, Magneto has always been a bad guy, he killed his own son, Quicksilver in the comic ffs.

I got more but later.

Let's Chop Cats!
05-28-2006, 10:55 PM
You do know Magneto took over the X-men at one point when Xavier disappeared? He still has a human side to him.

shaqadelic
05-28-2006, 11:19 PM
Yeah, I know, but his evil side is never overshadowed by his human side. Besides, he ran X Men like a badass.

PDWAB
05-28-2006, 11:36 PM
The reason Magneto is so one-sided in this movie is because he could see parallels from the cure situation to the Holocaust, which he had already lived through. He just couldn't take it and resorted to extreme means to prevent something like that from ever possibly happening to the mutants.

unComfortablyNumb
05-28-2006, 11:42 PM
I just saw the movie and I thought it was OK, but it could have been better. I don't think Ratner ****ed it up too bad, but I wasn't expecting much from him to begin with.

The Cynic
05-29-2006, 01:27 AM
They could have done a MUCH better job with this, But it was an ok movie. What pisses me off is how they fail to go witht the storyline.

dazmo
05-29-2006, 01:40 AM
I didnt stick around for the end of the credits, but i did see the last scene, so did magneto start to get his powers back, coz someone said b4 he didnt. Also if they plan on doing a XM4 they're gonna have to bring back all the characters they killed off. goodluck:thumb:. I actually thought that the scene with Xaviour showing the guy in a coma would become relavent, or they wouldn't have put it in there. If they dont decide to do a 4th one, it probably wont be that big of a loss. Even with everyone's complaints taken in, i still enjoyed the movie:)

YouGottaBeCrazy
05-29-2006, 08:59 AM
I just saw this movie. I thought it was pretty good. I'd say it was on par with the first one. I thought X2 was a lot better than both, though. Ratner isn't as good of a director as Singer is and it's pretty clear after seeing this movie. There was a lot of great things about the movie, but things that just didn't feel right. I don't really understand how they could just kill off Cyclops like that. It just didn't really feel completely right. Maybe the movie needed to be longer. It just didn't quite feel as fleshed out as it could've been. Wolverine has always been a badass and maintains the level of badass-ness in this movie (the Danger Room scene was hilarious). He easily had the best one-liner in the movie: "try growing those back". Overall, I'd give it: 7.3/10

I'm anxious to see the next one (if they make another one).

Let's Chop Cats!
05-29-2006, 09:32 AM
http://www.themovieblog.com/archives/2006/01/fox_confirms_xmen_4.html

Fox confirms X-Men 4 + more.

YouGottaBeCrazy
05-29-2006, 09:32 AM
sweet. I just hope Ratner isn't back for the next one.

spitfirejunky
05-29-2006, 12:14 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3934651591022114445

Thought I'd post this for kicks.

Sebek
05-29-2006, 12:35 PM
Personally I liked the movie, but I whole-heartily agree that there was just something off about it. Too many questions without enough satisfactory answers, and the lack of character development just pissed me off. More or less I saw X1 and X2 as the story/character development, and X3 as the huge battle that they were being led up to.

shaqadelic
05-29-2006, 12:44 PM
More or less I saw X1 and X2 as the story/character development, and X3 as the huge battle that they were being led up to.

Yeah, that's what X3 is and anybody who expected more gonna be unfortunately dissapointed. Also, the buildup is somehow always better than the blowoff, like The Matrix Trilogy for example.

Hunted By a Freak
05-29-2006, 01:56 PM
So this movie was alright IMO

I kind of dislike the movies for changing things.. I'm a bit of a purist when it comes to film adaptions

I guess I just miss having back story and character development for the characters the most

I thought it was funny they referenced the juggernaut meme, but he was lame otherwise

Yeah... it was pretty good

P.S.

You know Prof and Cyclops will be back

YouGottaBeCrazy
05-29-2006, 03:35 PM
Hopefully, X4 will be awesome. I missed Nightcrawler in X3. Anyone know why Alan Cumming didn't sign on to do it?

Seafroggys
05-29-2006, 04:11 PM
yeah, I missed Nightcrawler.

But I LOVE your avatar! One of my favorite movies!

Noyana
05-29-2006, 05:35 PM
mmm i'm going to see it soon. i hadn't seen x-men or known what it was about at all until today when FX showed the first two back to back.

The Haitian
05-29-2006, 07:15 PM
Hopefully, X4 will be awesome. I missed Nightcrawler in X3. Anyone know why Alan Cumming didn't sign on to do it?
I read somewhere that during X2 he whined constantly about all the makeup he had to get done, so they didnt invite him to the third.

Tillius
05-29-2006, 07:32 PM
If Alan Cumming was bitching, then why didn't they just replace him? I mean, sure, it would be different, but better than not having him. I mean, imagine the things they could've done with Nightcrawler in that movie.

Sebek
05-29-2006, 10:36 PM
Not saying he was a bad actor, but I think they could find a better Nightcrawler.

MAthiAS
05-29-2006, 11:06 PM
Just got back from this. Ya they should've brought him back.

Basically it seemed like the whole plot I got from the previews and whatnot from TV, and filled in the blanks with prior knowledge and typical movie happenings.

They so should've used Gambit from the first movie, and had him have the Rogue relationship.

And a lot of the fights sucked. Especially the Iceman vs. Pyro one. And why didn't the like 1000 mutants Magneto had, have and/or use any powers.

Devil Inferno
05-30-2006, 03:03 AM
The movie wasn't that horrible. The plot was good, but just too rushed. The cure could have one movie by itself, phoenix could have 3..so..they crammed 4 movies in 1.

But anyway

KITTY WAS HOT

so, Kitty > Bad plot.

rbv
05-30-2006, 04:49 AM
The movie was horrible. It was too corny/predictable/generic. No storyline was good. They killed off a lot of what could've been good storylines. (side note: it's weird how they managed to give the least screen time to cyclops in the past two movies).

The way I see it any scene without Jean owning everybody was crap. (and even then Jean was just paid to stand around and do two make-out scenes.)

Devil Inferno
05-30-2006, 04:55 AM
The sentinel looked horrible too.

Kitty FTW.

Kurrpt
05-30-2006, 01:10 PM
this movie was not good

Seafroggys
05-30-2006, 03:36 PM
Rogue looked like in her mid 20s, Iceman was like in his early 20s, and Kitty was like 16.....lol, talk about jailbait.

Tillius
05-30-2006, 03:50 PM
Kitty was, indeed, hot though.

dislocated214
05-30-2006, 05:08 PM
For the next movie, if Wolverine got his yellow/blue spandex costume back, I would be so happy.

I heard Gambit is gonna be in X-Men 4, I hope he is, he's one of my favorites. Prof. X will be back too. :)

MAthiAS
05-30-2006, 09:28 PM
The movie was horrible. It was too corny/predictable/generic. No storyline was good. They killed off a lot of what could've been good storylines. (side note: it's weird how they managed to give the least screen time to cyclops in the past two movies).
Ya, not only that they didn't develop the 'replacement' characters at all. Practically nothing with Angel, Collossus, Juggernaut, Beast, the new chick for Magneto... Basically, it was full of action but didn't tell us anything we didn't already know about any of the characters cept Jean. It was definitely rushed, it should've had another 30 minutes or so.

And I was hoping against hope that Iceman would ditch Rogue for Kitty, then Gambit would show up.

And Kitty was hot, but way less hot than Rogue and Jean, and maybe even Storm.

unComfortablyNumb
05-31-2006, 12:00 AM
I don't think Anna Paquin (Rogue) is hot at all.

Seafroggys
05-31-2006, 12:09 AM
I don't think Anna Paquin (Rogue) is hot at all.

I thought she was hot in the first movie, but in this one she was....meh. I'd still do her though.

And the actress who played Kitty was 18, so she's legal. Though she looks 16 though.

EDIT: nm, she's 18 now, but 17 during filming.

Jean is the hottest of them all, but thats because Famke Jannsen plays her, and well, she's ****ing hot. Especially that scene with Wolverine that showed off those legs. Oh my!

Scoot
05-31-2006, 12:45 AM
But she's dead so oh no.

shaqadelic
05-31-2006, 03:26 AM
I thought she was hot in the first movie, but in this one she was....meh. I'd still do her though.


You don't really need to think that far cause she definitely won't wanna be done by you. lol

YouGottaBeCrazy
05-31-2006, 01:46 PM
kitty looked like she was 12 in some scenes but 16 in others. the actress is legal, though, yeah.

Chrysostom
05-31-2006, 02:04 PM
The film suffers from a debilitating lack of Gambit. It therefore sucks.

/thread.

dislocated214
05-31-2006, 02:57 PM
The film suffers from a debilitating lack of Gambit. It therefore sucks.

/thread.
He's supposed to be in four.

Kurrpt
05-31-2006, 02:57 PM
im surprised Ebert gave it a thumbs up. Normally i agree with the fukker

Chrysostom
05-31-2006, 03:00 PM
He's supposed to be in four.

He damn well better be.

MAthiAS
05-31-2006, 03:06 PM
Jean is the hottest of them all, but thats because Famke Jannsen plays her, and well, she's ****ing hot. Especially that scene with Wolverine that showed off those legs. Oh my!
Omg yes. Plus her hair.
The film suffers from a debilitating lack of Gambit. It therefore sucks.
Ditto.

Manticore Guy
05-31-2006, 06:00 PM
Eh, I liked it a lot. Wasn't that bad of a movie.

Best part was when Juggernaut got completely ripped by the wall though. That was funny.

YouGottaBeCrazy
06-01-2006, 02:39 PM
im surprised Ebert gave it a thumbs up. Normally i agree with the fukker

who cares what a critic thinks? he gave Team America 1 star, therefore he sucks.

Roy.
06-03-2006, 03:09 AM
I didnt stick around for the end of the credits,I actually thought that the scene with Xaviour showing the guy in a coma would become relavent, or they wouldn't have put it in there.
than you should have stuck around.

prof. xavier transferred his mind into the guy in a coma right before he was "destroyed" by phoenix. this is revealed in the very,very last scene.

i just saw the movie and loved it. the deaths we're spoiled by some people on mx though...so it kinda sucked i already knew the major death scenes (accept cyclops that was a surprise)

i loved x-men (the comic book) for years. but i stopped reading after they brought magneto back in 2003...i mean he was stabbed in the ****ing stomach by wolverine,that should have been the end...

anyway i have some questions about the movie


1. did the guy in the coma (that xavier transferred to) have a name? is it a person from the comics or just a random person inserted into the story?

2. that was psylocke that storm fought right?

i think that is all my questions for now.

anyway it was great. even my mother and wife liked the movie and they know almost nothing about x-men. i know some people are expecting a close mirror of the comic or the cartoon...but keeping it all the same is boring and in the end brings no surprises...also i didnt know there were so many fans of gambit...jesus:rolleyes:

one thing i didnt like is rouge was so weak in this movie. they should of had her steal one of the more powerful mutants powers (like juggarnut)and have her kick some ***...but than again it is the way it is. at least its wasnt as near as bad as the fantastic four or punisher (both of them) movies.

if there is a four i will be right there.

i think this movie could have had better fight scenes. all in all it was an awesome early birthday present...

now just waiting for superman:naughty:

EDIT: the next x-men should have apocalypse

Concubine
06-03-2006, 03:56 AM
Umm,i just watched it. It's pretty good, even though i upset that nightcrawler isn't in the movie, and the juggernaut looks weird.

I didn't expect that Charles, Jane, and Cyclops is going to be killed in the movie. Umm.

Master Arkam Kannon
06-04-2006, 07:44 PM
worst comic movie next to batman and robin.

reasons (spoilers)

no nightcrawler
patrick stewart forgot how to act like xavier
the phoenix wasnt done right, she would never work for magneto, the phoniex destroys planets and cannot be tamed by anyone good or evil
magneto wasnt supposed to be a bad guy
magneto turned his back on mystiq, he would never be that dishonorable
you cant cure mutation with a medicine that zaps it off
too much halle berry, she cant act, just a pretty face
why pick up the bridge, that's overkill
the mutants they had were crap. spike face and speed girl
colossus was just a man in a metal suit
why was Prince in it? and why did he have shockwaves
why did they attack alcatraz just to get this kid, when people already knew how to make the cure?
why did phoenix go nuts at the end, there was no reason
why did they think that ripping off wolverines skin would do anything
phoenix uses mind powers, not wind powers to rip skin off
there was no bad *** in the movie except cyclops, who was killed too quickly
wolverine was more of a nanny then a ****ing killing machine
iceman and pyro were bitches
why would magneto chuck cars?
why was rouge in it at all?
how was everything peaceful in the end, when nothing got resolved?

what a horrible movie.

SantaDuJuan
06-04-2006, 08:37 PM
The move was okay, I saw it with some friends and God.
I am never going to another superhero movie with comic book nerds.
"WTF MAN THAT'S NOT THE JUGGERNAUT!" for the entire movie.

But uh, I'm not a big X-Men fan so I don't really know what they did wrong and so on and so on, but overrall I had fun and enjoyed the movie.
Also, when Magneto moved the chess piece, that sold it for me.

Kithkin
06-04-2006, 10:16 PM
Picking up the bridge was exactly what Magneto would do. It would terrify and demoralize the humans on alcatraz. It was more than just a mode of transportation, it was a display of power.

Storm didn't fight Psylock.

unComfortablyNumb
06-05-2006, 02:39 AM
why was Prince in it?
:lol: I thought the exact same thing when I saw that.

Spiritofmosa
06-05-2006, 08:56 AM
i think they killed off cyclops too quickly and suddenly.
and we know that xavier would return in the next x-men, so cut the cheese

Ducky_72
06-05-2006, 09:07 AM
I'll try and argue a few points.

worst comic movie next to batman and robin.

reasons (spoilers)

no nightcrawler (he didnt want to be in this one)
patrick stewart forgot how to act like xavier (in what way)
the phoenix wasnt done right, she would never work for magneto, the phoniex destroys planets and cannot be tamed by anyone good or evil (hollywood changes things, get over it)
magneto wasnt supposed to be a bad guy (WHAT!? he's the x-men's greatest enemy)
magneto turned his back on mystiq, he would never be that dishonorable (this was to show his hatred of humans)
you cant cure mutation with a medicine that zaps it off (which is why magneto isn't cured- see end of movie)
too much halle berry, she cant act, just a pretty face (she demanded a bigger part or she was gonna quit)
why pick up the bridge, that's overkill (they thought it would be a cool sfx?)
the mutants they had were crap. spike face and speed girl (i agree)
colossus was just a man in a metal suit (what do you mean? yes, that's how he was done effetcs wise, but he still had the power to change from skin to metal, just like the comics)
why was Prince in it? and why did he have shockwaves (who knows)
why did they attack alcatraz just to get this kid, when people already knew how to make the cure? (without the kid there is no cure, he provides the basis)
why did phoenix go nuts at the end, there was no reason (she's crazy and unstable and can't control her power, this is explored quite a lot)
why did they think that ripping off wolverines skin would do anything (it didnt- what do you mean?)
phoenix uses mind powers, not wind powers to rip skin off (it wasnt't wind, it was psychic energy)
there was no bad *** in the movie except cyclops, who was killed too quickly
wolverine was more of a nanny then a ****ing killing machine (yeah wolverine was lame in this one)
iceman and pyro were bitches (fair enough)
why would magneto chuck cars? (to attack alcatraz!?)
why was rouge in it at all? (to show that some mutants would want the cure)
how was everything peaceful in the end, when nothing got resolved? (labratory was shut down and the cure destroyed, magneto was stopped, phoenix was dead... pretty much everything got resolved.)

Spiritofmosa
06-05-2006, 11:15 AM
the good parts were iceman vs the pyro, beast and the arc angel..
does the kid with the cure have a mutant name?

Master Arkam Kannon
06-05-2006, 12:23 PM
the good parts were iceman vs the pyro, beast and the arc angel..
does the kid with the cure have a mutant name?

it wasnt even archangel in the movie, it was just angel, and he didnt do anything at all in the movie except swoop around and save his father, even though this father was a worthless character to begin with.

Kurrpt
06-05-2006, 12:30 PM
angel has to turn bad before he becomes arch angel

Master Arkam Kannon
06-05-2006, 12:36 PM
angel has to turn bad before he becomes arch angel

but the movie didnt explain that or even touch upon that. we know this because we've read the books, but the average movie consumer would not, and that is who they were aiming for.

MAthiAS
06-05-2006, 02:59 PM
the good parts were iceman vs the pyro
God that was the worst possible fight they could've had with them.

I thought Rogue could fly in the cartoon? I just noticed this.

Let's Chop Cats!
06-05-2006, 03:42 PM
She got her powers (flight, scrength) because she held onto Mrs. Marvel for too long which killed her and permanently gave Rogue her powers.

thedeadwalk!
06-05-2006, 04:11 PM
And in the movies, Magneto holds on to her, and all she gets is some of his gray hair. Weak...

UBIK
06-05-2006, 07:13 PM
The boy who made the cure had the mutant name Leech and aside from the general uselessness of pheonix throughout the movie I'm pretty sure ( as in 100%) that juggernaut is not a mutant ( a topic no doubt touched upon previously).

Drahmen
06-05-2006, 07:30 PM
Ha. Vinnie Jones saying "Im the juggernaut bitch!!!" was fantastic

thedeadwalk!
06-05-2006, 07:55 PM
I cringed at that moment.

Kithkin
06-05-2006, 09:03 PM
Me too.

They should have cut out:

Angel completely (X's estate would have paid for the X mansion well after his death)
Mystique's loss of powers (Magneto hates humans, but isn't inherently evil, his reaction to Mystique's loss of power was completely out of character)
The Leech character (no one cares about the kid and humans could have come up with the cure on their own)
All of Dark Phoenix (you can't just say she's more powerful than Magneto and then not have her do anything to prove it. Magneto moved a bridge, all she did was send water into the air. She needed to have a huge battle against a real team of X-Men)

With the extra time, they should have had a real fight with Juggernaut where they have to get his helmet off so X can stop him. And give him a damn backstory and make him X's brother. In the comics a crytal makes him insane and gives him his power (is it the philosophers stone?). That takes what, 20 seconds to explain? Mystique's backstory is long and convoulted so it's ok that they never told hers, but if it only takes 20 seconds, you please countless Xmen comic fans and let everyone else in on a little secret.

A Beast with character development.

An Iceman that can Kiss rogue when all Icy. That prompts her to seek the cure for normalcy not just because she's horny.

Cooler mutant powers. Mutant powers are like magic. They are full of possibilities. Battles should be more like naruto; full of unexpected use of power. Like Magneto's use of 2 metal balls in X:2 or Nightcrawler's teleportation confusion in X:2 and not at all like the cops and robbers shootout of X:3.

The only cool use of power was Kitty dragging Juggernaut into the ground. The effect of Jean throwing people into walls was really good, but never used in a real fight.

A great Dark Phoenix fight could have made this movie. With her ripping up chunks of ground to block Cyclops and ripping down electrical wires to block divert storms lightning and weilding telekenetic manhole covers to keep beast and wolverine away while crushing cars that cyclops threw through the sheer force of her mind.

Or, a fight between X and Dark Phoenix that took place in the mind where they fought using imagination where anything was possible.

But no, we got her shattering people and not having enough power to kill Wolverine.

MAthiAS
06-05-2006, 09:31 PM
Good thoughts there.

Pop music sucks
06-06-2006, 06:24 AM
What a let down! Ugh, completely taken out of continuity and context. I seriously doubt that Singer and Hayter would've went with what was shown in this movie. I felt like the new director and screenplay writers were just throwing in random people for the sake of coolness.

Hey! Juggernaut was cool in the comics! Let's throw him in with no correct backstory or explain that he was Xavier's brother!

Archangel was freakin' sweet! So let's put in Angel, rid him of his personal ambition to cure himself which would inadvertently make him Archangel, and instead, make him be proud of himself.

Multiple Man was sort cool, I mean, the whole forest thing was sweet, but that's all he had was 15 seconds of fame.

Dark Phoenix didn't do a thing! She stood there most of the time not doing a thing. She had to because they killed off the Professor and Cyclops. Totally ruining any sort of creative battle with those two out.

If they make a fourth movie I doubt there would be much left to do since they killed the Professor, Cyclops, and Jean. Yeah, okay, Magneto pushing the chess piece was a bit of a condolence, but hardly anything.


All the characters in the movies were out of character. Magneto held onto personal beliefs of those in his own stylings, not because of mutant status. Mystique also believed in what Magneto preached, just because she was cured, wouldn't let him scorn her.

This is strictly a summer blockbuster, full of action, no backstory, and no character development.

bradc1988
06-06-2006, 07:04 AM
Getting it now, I'll probably watch it tomorrow and I'll post a comment. Hopefully it should be decent, I like the first two.

Substitute
06-06-2006, 12:17 PM
The ending was kinda neat, though.

bradc1988
06-06-2006, 12:29 PM
The version I had I think may have cut away to early, but anyway it wasn't a bad movie, but not great. I would say the first two were better though. I did feel that a lot of things could've been cut and much better things couold have been put in.

Kithkin
06-06-2006, 09:18 PM
I totally forgot about Multiple Man in the movie.

He has one of the coolest powers and he was completely wasted on the movie. I don't care that he isn't evil (at least I don't think he is) but I do care that he was pointless.

thedeadwalk!
06-06-2006, 09:24 PM
I've never seen him as evil. He's always been in X-Factor, and in a little mini-series he was a detective in a noir-style detective story.

He's got one of my favorite set of powers since reading that.

UBIK
06-06-2006, 10:12 PM
He's the current leader of X-Factor, though some of his multiples now become more like splinters of his personality, being more daring or psychotic than the the core guy.

Scoot
06-06-2006, 10:45 PM
Angel and Leech were the two most pointless characters in movie history.

MAthiAS
06-06-2006, 10:47 PM
Since they had Angel in the beginning, I thought he'd be somehow important. But in the end he did nothing, though his story sucked anyway and there wasn't that much to tell. (I don't know anything about ArchAngel though.)

Scoot
06-06-2006, 10:51 PM
He didn't even ****ing fight. He just flew around.

MAthiAS
06-06-2006, 11:00 PM
Yeah, I'd have liked to at least see him pick a few unsuspecting crappy Brotherhood mutants and uhh, do something.

Roy.
06-07-2006, 04:03 AM
Picking up the bridge was exactly what Magneto would do. It would terrify and demoralize the humans on alcatraz. It was more than just a mode of transportation, it was a display of power.

Storm didn't fight Psylock.

wasn't that psylocke that storm fought both times in the movie? if not than who was it?

ok i am pretty much getting that wasn't psylocke...but i dont understand who she was and i can't find out any info...was she just a new person?

EDIT: from what i can find i guess she was. that makes no sense...and those other mutants were supposed to be the The Morlocks? i didn't know they were supposed to even be in the movie. i just found out after reading another form...where was calisto? why use some random mutant in a fight and not show off psylocke?

there has to be a part 4. because they have got a lot of holes to fill.

but hell so does the comic. i haven't reasd that **** since 2003.

they ****ed up when they brought magneto back after wolverine pwned his *** by stabbing him...

i wonder what has been going on in the comics the last three years?

EDIT:finds out magneto got permantly pwden when wolverine cut his head off in new x-men #150

unComfortablyNumb
06-07-2006, 04:18 AM
Yeah, Angel was pretty much useless in the movie. Except if they were just setting his character up for the next movie. Then it would be OK.

thedeadwalk!
06-07-2006, 01:54 PM
yB[o]y']...and those other mutants were supposed to be the The Morlocks? i didn't know they were supposed to even be in the movie. i just found out after reading another form...where was calisto? why use some random mutant in a fight and not show off psylocke?
Wasn't Callisto the fast girl?

Kithkin
06-07-2006, 02:04 PM
He's the current leader of X-Factor, though some of his multiples now become more like splinters of his personality, being more daring or psychotic than the the core guy.

I knew he had been in X-Factor... all I remember is that one time one of his duplicates died and he couldn't absorb the duplicate. I thought that was really cool.

UBIK
06-07-2006, 02:22 PM
At one point he tries to talk a suicidal guy off a building ledge, so he sends up a dupe of himself that he believes is the optimistic side of him, but the dupe just said he was, when in truth he was a really perverse side of him. He tells that to the suicidal guy right before he pushes him off the ledge. Multiple Man is awesome.

Roy.
06-08-2006, 02:23 AM
Wasn't Callisto the fast girl?

i was thinking that...and that would make sense if she was...but a lot of this movie doesn't make sense...so she probably isn't.

ArC
06-09-2006, 11:27 PM
I didn't really like the movie. I've never read an X book or comic, and I still got the impression they were leaving things out.

Are the books and/or comics avalible online? I'd like to read some.

FlyingPaul_83
06-11-2006, 12:09 AM
It was just a summer blockbuster :( pretty dissapointing. Iceman man all iced out was pretty cool though, even though that fight was weak.

Has any new information come up about Xmen4?

Generic Joshman
06-11-2006, 12:59 AM
picky bastards it was a good flick! :)

Master Arkam Kannon
06-12-2006, 12:54 PM
picky bastards it was a good flick! :)

hey, i can back my opinion without reasons too.

no, it wasnt.

CRONITOR
06-12-2006, 02:16 PM
I think this version of the juggernaut looks better.