Activism And Direct Action

[coheneran]

Heyhey,
This is the thread for all your direct action needs, and any inquiries and miscellaneous DIY stuff you need in your "struggle against repression."
I'll leave a bunch of links to various sites, and just holler if you're looking for something in particular (an organisation, a cause etc.). Please feel free to share any experiences you have of direct actions you may have partaken in, or any kind of involved activism, and share the knowledge:thumb:.

Various Hunt Sabouteurs' Organisations:
http://nwhsa.redblackandgreen.net/links_to_other_anti.htm

Schnews, useful for event listings and DIY:
http://www.schnews.org.uk/

Earth First! Speaks for itself really:
http://www.earthfirst.org/

GreenPeace USA
http://usactions.greenpeace.org/

ClassWar, for the dangerously anarchist people:
http://www.londonclasswar.org/

People In Common, veterans with a newbie organisation, great people:
http://peopleincommon.org/

Indymedia is a collective of independent media organizations and hundreds of journalists offering grassroots, non-corporate coverage:
http://www.indymedia.org/en/index.shtml

Freeganism. If you can bear it, it's a great thing. I don't have the time, but if I did, I would:
http://freegan.info/

Anti-Racist Action, speaks for itself as well:
http://www.antiracistaction.us/pn/

That's about all I can think of now. Inquire for other precise causes. Enjoy and fight the system.

[Shtein]

I said I'd post in it.

[coheneran]

And so you did. Would you like a mint humbug? Or would you like to join me on a hunt sab in a fortnight?

[Excursions]

If I did any of that it would make me a punk. I don't want that.

[coheneran]

If I did any of that it would make me a punk. I don't want that.

Heh. Hardly. Half the people I know who participate in this stuff listen to classic rock and english folk music. punk is what you make of it.

[Shtein]

And so you did. Would you like a mint humbug? Or would you like to join me on a hunt sab in a fortnight?

No... not really, I much rather have the hard candy.

[coheneran]

Well it's coming with me on the hunt.

The carrot moves, and soon, so will the donkey.

I hope we have real postings soon.

[Culture Shock]

I've spat on cop cars before... maybe I will post something meaningful later.

[Shtein]

hahaha, when I was walking home from school today there was a sign that said Free Stop Smoking Clinic and I changed it to Free Pot Smoking Clininc, 1st real post, omg c'est tre punXx!!!

[scroogey]

wow spitting on cop cars....... im all for the anti racism thing, there is way too much of that around at the moment

[coheneran]

I make it a habit to secretly shout abuse ("Get a real job!") at Community Support Officers. By the way, if they ever start asking you questions, you don't have to answer them. They have no real power, their job is to "gather intelligence for the police" and unless they can trick you into giving away details (like one tried on me once), all they do is take down your description. So if you don't want them to report your 'poor misguided twin', cover up any details, patches, hair etc. and walk away. Don't run.

[Shtein]

...Don't run.

This remindes me of when my friends ran when he pelted a truck with a snowball and the guy stopped in the middle of the road and chased after him.:lol:

[AIRIC]

Oi punx.

[coheneran]

This remindes me of when my friends ran when he pelted a truck with a snowball and the guy stopped in the middle of the road and chased after him.:lol:

Hardcore, fu'ck tha system.

[Mr. Ron]

Immaturity abound.

[AIRIC]

Thank you for the input, but only I'm allowed to spam the punk forum, please leave.

[Shtein]

It was funny because it was a 60 year old 5.2 Rastafarian man with dreadlocks chasing after a 4.6 grade 9 kid.

[Liebensaft]

I'm far too unpunX to do any kind of direct action. *ashamed*

[coheneran]

My sarcasm was so deeply routed it went even over my sensitive head. When will we have a serious post? By the way, there will be a hunt sab this saturday, but I can't make it. Can someone else do it? They pick up from King's Cross. Contact at their site www.nels.org.uk

[AIRIC]

What is a hunt sab?

[coheneran]

Check out the first link I posted. Even after the hunting ban, there are still fox hunts happening in the countryside, as well as many other creatures, including badgers (which are protected species). The hunt sabotageurs (hunt sabs) try and saboutage the hunt (well duh) bu various methods. Covering up the scent with a spray (I forget which chemical), making fake trails for the hounds with blood, and foxlair bedding, using horns and calls to confuse the hounds, and a few other ways. All of them animal friendly, including to the hounds and horses.

[AIRIC]

What if you guys get shot?

[coheneran]

What if you guys get shot?

They don't use guns. They have hounds to rip the fox to bits. And the hounds are trained not to touch any human.

[AIRIC]

Ohhh.

[Shtein]

What happens if I strapped raw meat all over my body with belts?

[Liebensaft]

What happens if I strapped raw meat all over my body with belts?
:lol: I'd tear a chunk off.

[Shtein]

Then I'd c'ock slap you and strap it back on:).

[Liebensaft]

Then I'd c'ock slap you and strap it back on:).
Kinky son of a bitch.


Back on topic - I wish I was punX enough to do stuff like that, but unfortuantely I have parents, and there's nothing around here to protest.:upset:

[Shtein]

How do you think I feel, I'm Catholic...

*leaves and only comes back to spam*

[coheneran]

Kinky son of a bitch.


Back on topic - I wish I was punX enough to do stuff like that, but unfortuantely I have parents, and there's nothing around here to protest.:upset:

Pennsylvania? I'll find you something. And at worst, you can incite racial hatred anonymously and then start an Anti-Racist Action chapter. :lol:

[Mr. Ron]

Just wondering, but what do you hope to accomplish with this?

[coheneran]

Just wondering, but what do you hope to accomplish with this?

With what?

[Mr. Ron]

With what?
Posting all the links.

[coheneran]

Posting all the links.

You know how the DIY thread's purpose is to get more people to 'do it themselves' instead of relying on consumer culture? Well, this thread's purpose is to get people into acting themselves when their government stops listening to them and taking them seriously.

[coheneran]

Choking Victim, what city/town are you in?

[Anti-Prefix]

Just wondering, but what do you hope to accomplish with this?

It's not very hard to figure out.

I like this thread and will post more later.

[coheneran]

It's not very hard to figure out.

I like this thread and will post more later.

Yaay! By the way, if there was a poll for funniest name, you would get my vote because every time I think about what your name means and I laugh, because it says 'anti' on the front.

[Anti-Prefix]

Yaay! By the way, if there was a poll for funniest name, you would get my vote because every time I think about what your name means and I laugh, because it says 'anti' on the front.

Anti is a prefix meaning against. So my name is against prefixes, yet it is one! :cool:

[coheneran]

Anti is a prefix meaning against. So my name is against prefixes, yet it is one! :cool:

That is what I badly said in my excitement. I've been wanting to say that for ages but it was so obvious it didn't seem worth pointing out. Will you marry me?

/Goes back to watching movie about gay cruise with Cuba Gooding Jr.

[Brain Toad]

You know how the DIY thread's purpose is to get more people to 'do it themselves' instead of relying on consumer culture? Well, this thread's purpose is to get people into acting themselves when their government stops listening to them and taking them seriously.

That wasn't the orginal purpose of the DIY thread, but ok.

[coheneran]

That wasn't the orginal purpose of the DIY thread, but ok.

What WAS the purpose?

[Brain Toad]

What WAS the purpose?

A place for people to just ask questions. It wasn't encouraging any political ideas, just the simple place to ask questions that referred to making clothes, making food, spiking hair, etc.

[One Step Beyond]

Direct action is stupid when people carry it too far, and most people who are truly into it will take it too far.. I don't see any good coming from this thread.

[(r)evolution]

Direct action is stupid when people carry it too far, and most people who are truly into it will take it too far.. I don't see any good coming from this thread.

apathy is far worse, especially when people take it to far and way to many people do.

[coheneran]

Direct action is stupid when people carry it too far, and most people who are truly into it will take it too far.. I don't see any good coming from this thread.

How much experience do you have with direct action? I've seen only good come out of it. It's rarely that you hear of someone getting hurt, though I admit there are some anarchists out there verging on nihilism.

[Brain Toad]

Direct action is stupid when people carry it too far, and most people who are truly into it will take it too far.. I don't see any good coming from this thread.

I agree. Throwing paint on people and destroying things is too far.

apathy is far worse, especially when people take it to far and way to many people do.

Not approving of direct action =/= apathy
There is other ways to show political activism besides direct action.

[coheneran]

I agree. Throwing paint on people and destroying things is too far.



Not approving of direct action =/= apathy
There is other ways to show political activism besides direct action.

Direct action isn't about showing your support. The government has made it clear it will only take interest if it was in danger, or if there was money involved. It's about not having to rely on 'established channels' to get things done. It's about establishing your own channels, getting things done by yourself. It's a kind of DIY.

[Brain Toad]

Direct action isn't about showing your support. The government has made it clear it will only take interest if it was in danger, or if there was money involved. It's about not having to rely on 'established channels' to get things done. It's about establishing your own channels, getting things done by yourself. It's a kind of DIY.

Many people take direct action to violence and destruction though, and that is counterproductive.

[coheneran]

Many people take direct action to violence and destruction though, and that is counterproductive.

Re-evaluate 'many'. Few people ever take it as far as hurting somebody, and I've never heard of throwing paint on people as a political statement. I've heard of people doing it for fun, but not for politics.

[Brain Toad]

Re-evaluate 'many'. Few people ever take it as far as hurting somebody, and I've never heard of throwing paint on people as a political statement. I've heard of people doing it for fun, but not for politics.

You obviously don't know of the tactics of some animal rights activists, who take to violence and near terrorism. They are the ones who throw paint on people

I have nothing against protesting, but when it gets to violence, destruction, etc. It's gone too far. Direct action such as Martin Luther King Jr's sit-ins were fantastic ways of protesting and promoting change.

[coheneran]

You obviously don't know of the tactics of some animal rights activists, who take to violence and near terrorism. They are the ones who throw paint on people

I have nothing against protesting, but when it gets to violence, destruction, etc. It's gone too far. Direct action such as Martin Luther King Jr's sit-ins were fantastic ways of protesting and promoting change.

Yes, I do not advocate violent behaviour to any person or animal. Unless they are in the process of attacking you, then I suggest disabling them, temporarily. But direct action is still a good idea, for the reasons I've already stated.

[Major General Despair]

Meh. I see nothing wrong with vandalizing a business that makes its profits from slaughter, exploitation, etc. As long as no people are physically harmed.
Hunt sabs are heros, as well. I wish I could pull off stuff like that here without just getting shot by angry rednecks

[RIP Ian Curtis]

You obviously don't know of the tactics of some animal rights activists, who take to violence and near terrorism. They are the ones who throw paint on people

I have nothing against protesting, but when it gets to violence, destruction, etc. It's gone too far. Direct action such as Martin Luther King Jr's sit-ins were fantastic ways of protesting and promoting change.


But non-violent protest never really achieves anything. Every Martin Luther King needs a Malcolm X. People only understand blood, that's why every revolution must be followed by a "terror" or a "night of the long knives" or a "cultural revolution", the violence and terror are the only things that can cement the change in the minds of the common morons.

Personally, I'm way to cool to care about anything political, but I've got a lot more respect for the violent ones that the hippies.

[RudeBoyStompin]

I think Direct Action is the natural reaction to injustice. Protesting for parliamentary action is generally not very productive unless it's on a very large scale. Real change must come from the bottom up. Change coming from the top down is disempowering to the people. On top of that, politics these days are such bs, politicians can never be trusted to carry out the will of the poeple.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7646/directaction7cj.jpg

[Culture Shock]

I think Direct Action is the natural reaction to injustice. Protesting for parliamentary action is generally not very productive unless it's on a very large scale. Real change must come from the bottom up. Change coming from the top down is disempowering to the people. On top of that, politics these days are such bs, politicians can never be trusted to carry out the will of the poeple.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/7646/directaction7cj.jpg

Good one.

[coheneran]

But non-violent protest never really achieves anything. Every Martin Luther King needs a Malcolm X. People only understand blood, that's why every revolution must be followed by a "terror" or a "night of the long knives" or a "cultural revolution", the violence and terror are the only things that can cement the change in the minds of the common morons.

Bol'locks. Gandhi freed India with non-violent protest. There have been many other smaller precise causes (ie. keeping a factory open) that have been won with non-violent protest. And as for your bloody revolution, you can't have a bloody revolution to achieve anarchism, that would defeat the point. The only revolution that will lead to real anarchism is a non-violent one. Our weapons are words, and violence is a price too high to pay.

[Drop The Baby]

Bollocks isn't censored.

I like this thread. Conheneran, did you ever repost that info about Tesco's you said you typed up then lost? I'd like to read that.

[coheneran]

Bollocks isn't censored.

I like this thread. Conheneran, did you ever repost that info about Tesco's you said you typed up then lost? I'd like to read that.

I can't be bothered anymore, it was long, but I'll find the article and post it:thumb:.

EDIT: Here it is.

Anger at Tesco plans
By Beena Nadeem

Plans to open a second Tesco store in Ballards Lane, Finchley, have come under fire from shopkeepers fearing they will be pushed out of business.

Residents in Finchley have been leafleted, asking for their opinions about a proposed Tesco Express store halfway between Finchley and North Finchley town centres, less than a mile from the existing Tesco, Budgens and Waitrose stores on the same road as well as Sainsbury's and Iceland stores in High Road, North Finchley.

A Tesco spokesman said: "We don't have any details on opening dates, but the property department here tells us that there are plans for a stand-alone store.

"We're proposing the store will open sometime in the New Year, but nothing has been confirmed."

The proposed store will be at 204-206 Ballards Lane, the site of a discount carpet store, although Tesco say it has plans to build a new store from scratch.

Owner of Budgens Local, in North Finchley, Michael Patterson, said: "It's absolutely preposterous. The street is already saturated, and in close proximity we have a Sainsbury's, Waitrose, Iceland and a Tesco. It wipes out the small independent stores.

"The real reason they want a Tesco Express is because of the Sunday trading laws. Because the store will be less than 2,000 sq ft, it means that they don't have to close the store at 4pm on Sundays and can instead, stay open until midnight. That means those shopkeepers that make a living from staying open when Tesco shuts will be wiped out. Tesco will control the whole thing."

And here is the link for it: http://www.hendontimes.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.649932.0.anger_at_tesco_plans.php

[Aus Rotten]

Good to see ARA up there mate! :thumb:

[Scabies]

I like you cohenran. I'm gonna organise a flyering day outside my local KFC as soon as the tattoo place im flyering for atm figures out i do f'uck all work and fire me. I would do local hunt sabbing too but i dont know anyone from round here who does it. Im from Essex.

[Culture Shock]

Im from Essex.

Does that mean you can wander in a forest and stumble upon the Dial House?

[Scabies]

As in the Crass squat?...Erm thats in Epping Forest, like the other side of the county so yeah i guess i could go give those stinky hippies a visit sometime :)

[coheneran]

Here, there was an Essex hunt sabs site in one of the links I posted.
http://www.huntsabs.org.uk/

[Culture Shock]

As in the Crass squat?...Erm thats in Epping Forest, like the other side of the county so yeah i guess i could go give those stinky hippies a visit sometime :)

I would!

[coheneran]

New link up, it's a cute little diraction (it's what I'm calling it on the net now, I am paranoid) Encyclopedia. Well, a big one. I'll link on this post and the first one. It's an interesting read.

http://www.empowermentzone.com/dir_act.txt

[me likes punk]

Do you have any feminism/gender equality sites?

[coheneran]

Yaay! I'm one of them too. A feminist I mean. Feminism, trans and gay rights. Awesome. I'll have a look out for some.

[Anti-Prefix]

That is what I badly said in my excitement. I've been wanting to say that for ages but it was so obvious it didn't seem worth pointing out. Will you marry me?

/Goes back to watching movie about gay cruise with Cuba Gooding Jr.

Set the date, and make sure it's vegan catering. :thumb:

[coheneran]

I used to be a vegan, but it got too hard. I mean, willpower-wise, it was piss, but when you're travelling around (like I do sometimes, I'm a binge-traveller) it's hard to find something vegan to eat (and filling, and cheap) and I spent like 24 hours with only a couple of apples and a bottle of water. Needless to say they were boring companions.:p

[coheneran]

This is mostly about overseas volunteering.

http://www.feminist.com/activism/

This looks interesting.

http://www.mediawatch.com/action.html

Now THIS, I like.

http://members.tripod.com/tsm49/anarch.htm

I got all these links from this site, I only really looked at the titles of the sites though, and the main page.

http://www.lilithgallery.com/feminist/

Now, here's Emma Goldman, a heroine of mine. Lovely lady, really great.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Goldman

Enjoy, and don't let the mans keep you down.

I made a really awesome Smash Patriarchy poster once. Well, I thought it was, I'll dig it up somewhere and scan it when I can be bothered.

[MILF Hunter]

Emma Goldman is sexy

[coheneran]

Yeaaah. She owns. She is cooler than Kropotkin and Marx put together. Those damn homos:lol:.

[TakeWarning]

Emma Goldman is sexy

I'd hit that.

[coheneran]

How cool would it be if we could centralize the DIY thread, this thread and the literature thread. Like, each one would have a link to the other, and everytime someone posted info or a question, it would come up with anything related from all three threads. For example, if a girl (or a weird guy) was to come in to DIY and say "I'm tired of pharmas run by men sticking fu'cking bleach in my tampons. It might look squeaky clean but it leaves unwanted chemicals in my pus'sy. Does anyone know any independent women-owned companies that make healthy tampons?" Then it could automatically come up with anything to do with feminism, pharmas standards, DIY menstruation thingies and any other related things that have been posted. Basically make a database. Either way the above example was shi'te. Really sh'ite.

[TakeWarning]

How cool would it be if we could centralize the DIY thread, this thread and the literature thread. Like, each one would have a link to the other, and everytime someone posted info or a question, it would come up with anything related from all three threads. For example, if a girl (or a weird guy) was to come in to DIY and say "I'm tired of pharmas run by men sticking fu'cking bleach in my tampons. It might look squeaky clean but it leaves unwanted chemicals in my pus'sy. Does anyone know any independent women-owned companies that make healthy tampons?" Then it could automatically come up with anything to do with feminism, pharmas standards, DIY menstruation thingies and any other related things that have been posted. Basically make a database. Either way the above example was shi'te. Really sh'ite.

No.

[coheneran]

:upset:Why not?:upset:

[TakeWarning]

I just don't think it would work. Still, that's just my opinion, ask what others think maybe.

[white_riot]

When I purchased Crass - Penis Envy off Amazon they sent me two copies of the c.d. Would anyone like to buy it off me?

I tried being a vegetarian but I got really sick and weak so I sold out. This seems like a good thread but it will probally die like most of the others.

[Culture Shock]

When I purchased Crass - Penis Envy off Amazon they sent me two copies of the c.d. Would anyone like to buy it off me?

I tried being a vegetarian but I got really sick and weak so I sold out. This seems like a good thread but it will probally die like most of the others.


How long did you try??? The 15th will mark my year long quest of a righteous diet!

[white_riot]

I tried for a couple of weeks, my diet consisted of potatoes, pasta & Rice and thats basically all. So I didn't have much variation in there.

[coheneran]

That's where you went wrong. You gotta put more fruit and veg and less carbohydrates. When I made myself pasta or spaghetti when I was vegan (using non-egg pasta of course) I always made the sauce out of tomatoes (as opposed to out of a jar or a can) and I chopped up mushrooms instead of mince. That's protein and vitamins right there. And one fruit at every meal, at least. Then it's easy. And I found that I didn't miss egg or meat or dairy at all. There are so many good substitutes nowadays. I ate lots of pitta and humous, I drank tea with Alpro Soya, which, it turns out, is nicer than most milk you get in Britain. Much nicer, and better for you. Lol, at one point some girl asked me if I wanted honey (for some reason or other, I forget), and she knew I was vegan. I said, "No thanks, I'm vegan remember?" and she had no idea honey came from bees. Education standards are dropping fast...

And as for Crass, seeing as you didn't pay for it, I would give it to a charity shop. Or, if you really want something in exchange for it, most independent record and disc shops do trades, and seeing as it's brand new, you'll probably be able to get something good for it.

[Weezerfan_returns]

And as for Crass, seeing as you didn't pay for it, I would give it to a charity shop. Or, if you really want something in exchange for it, most independent record and disc shops do trades, and seeing as it's brand new, you'll probably be able to get something good for it.[/QUOTE]

fuc'k that, SELL IT! get a quick buck, and give someone else the oppourtunity of buying a cd at a low price! :thumb:

[me likes punk]

Thanks for the links coheran! Also, I have a favor to ask of you cool cats; if you ever hear or read anything about a protest of some sort in Omaha, Nebraska email me a link at jakewithaz@yahoo.com the reason I ask is because there doesn't ever seem to be anything like that here so, if you hear anything email me, please.

[Weezerfan_returns]

I don't want to wear vans or Chuck T's because they're made in sweatshops... are their any companies who make non sweatshop made shoes. Preferably skate-ish shoes.

[coheneran]

I don't want to wear vans or Chuck T's because they're made in sweatshops... are their any companies who make non sweatshop made shoes. Preferably skate-ish shoes.

Someone posted a few links of non-sweatshop places a while back, on the DIY thread I think. Go on that thread and search 'sweatshop' or something. Here's one I found just now:

http://www.nosweatapparel.com/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=NSS

[white_riot]

Does anyone know any good books or websites about anti-technology?

[coheneran]

Does anyone know any good books or websites about anti-technology?

Why would you want anti-technology? Are you posting telepathically or from a PC?

[Liebensaft]

Someone posted a few links of non-sweatshop places a while back, on the DIY thread I think. Go on that thread and search 'sweatshop' or something. Here's one I found just now:

http://www.nosweatapparel.com/miva/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=NSS
They have some cool stuff, but I'm not a fan of the "no sweat" all over it. It kind of looks silly.

[coheneran]

They have some cool stuff, but I'm not a fan of the "no sweat" all over it. It kind of looks silly.

Just take it off then, it's piss. Get a needle, stick it under the thred, pry it up til the thread snaps and then just rip off the cu'nt. Or, if it's printed on it, spray over it, or put a patch. I write **** on my boots, it makes them look cool. Draw the feminist sign with a 'smashthestate' fist inside, that's a conversation stimulator that also stimulators the ladies into sucking my rod(<<Irony). It is cool.

[RudeBoyStompin]

I like when you buy clothes and the brand name is patched on rather than printed on. I just remove it with a seam-ripper or an exacto knife. I try to prevent being a walking advertisement.

[skavid]

I don't want to wear vans or Chuck T's because they're made in sweatshops... are their any companies who make non sweatshop made shoes. Preferably skate-ish shoes.
I was gonna suggest Blackspots, but they're not skate shoes. As for skate shoes - are there any non sweatshop ones? I couldn't find any.

[RudeBoyStompin]

Hmmm, not sure. I don't really know what constitutes a skate shoe.

[skavid]

Hmmm, not sure. I don't really know what constitutes a skate shoe.
Basically, made for skateboarding. Tougher than tennis shoes. Some examples are Lakai (my favorites), Vans, Etnies, Emerica, Globe, and Adio.

[white_riot]

Originally Posted by coheneran
Why would you want anti-technology? Are you posting telepathically or from a PC?

Yeah I'm posting telepathically:rolleyes:

[smokersdieyounger]

Good that theres a thread like this I dont think it will die. Although I have not gotten directly involved, I usually only go so far as polemic in my 'revolution' but I do boycott companies i think little of, like most clothes, fast food, all tobacco and all petrol complanies. But im still at home until next summer, so the foods still from ASDA or sainsburys.

[white_riot]

They are building a new shopping centre where I live and there is a tree which has been there for ages and they have to cut it down. i have seen some signs on it to try and save so i might get involved and help. We already have a sh'it shopping centre we don't need another one.

[skavid]

So I finally found a vegan skate shoe for whoever was asking. It's somewhere on the www.vegetarian-shoes.co.uk (http://www.vegetarian-shoes.co.uk) site.

[RudeBoyStompin]

They are building a new shopping centre where I live and there is a tree which has been there for ages and they have to cut it down. i have seen some signs on it to try and save so i might get involved and help. We already have a sh'it shopping centre we don't need another one.

Live in it

[ratsinthecity403]

http://responsibleshopper.org/

here is a nice site for seeing what kind of company you are supporting....

[coheneran]

Good that theres a thread like this I dont think it will die. Although I have not gotten directly involved, I usually only go so far as polemic in my 'revolution' but I do boycott companies i think little of, like most clothes, fast food, all tobacco and all petrol complanies. But im still at home until next summer, so the foods still from ASDA or sainsburys.

I'm going to be VERY careful not to preach, so I will state things as I know them. Purportedly, ASDA is a branch of K-Mart (or another one of the American ones, maybe someone else will know), who are supposed to be doing bad things, I don't know exactley what. I think there was something with Mexican migrants being abused or something like that. Either way, I don't buy from ASDA because of the rule of modern life that, if something is that cheap, it can't be legal.

Onwards. Well, it's good to be back, and for those of you who are in London or the UK, there's going to be another Anarchist Assembly, and in this one we're going to actually try and organise something for once.

[Mr. Ron]

They are building a new shopping centre where I live and there is a tree which has been there for ages and they have to cut it down. i have seen some signs on it to try and save so i might get involved and help. We already have a sh'it shopping centre we don't need another one.
So, you're stopping the growth of jobs, economic expansion and potential business from coming to your area for a tree that no one would care about if this wasn't happening?

[coheneran]

So, you're stopping the growth of jobs, economic expansion and potential business from coming to your area for a tree that no one would care about if this wasn't happening?

I have a better idea for a growth of jobs, economic expansion and potential business that will also save the tree, and will not need another crappy little consumer centre. Plant a forest around the tree, make it really wild, with an angling lake (medium sized), maybe bring some deer and pheasants into it, employ people as rangers and cleaners to pick up rubbish and keep it clean. When the forest is sufficiently wild, open a few fishing stores right outside the forest, and maybe even a few rowboats for rent in the lake. You could even make a zone for hunting, and that is potential business for hunting supplies, and potential zone for activist hunt saboutaging, yaaay! Just make sure that the hunting supplies shop are selling bullet-proof vests, just in case you might get shot while trying to save the precious deer.

:lol:

Still, an ancient tree is better than a shopping centre, especially when they already have one. People should get jobs doing something constructive, not selling crap CDs to confused youth.

[ROT]

the greatest action through inaction
haha

[coheneran]

U.K and REGIONAL FORUMS and NEWSWIRES

Hello. This circular is intended to help you start the new year with
access to a number of key activist forums and newswires across the U.K
and South West. This list is by no means exhaustive. What is specific to
these forums and newswires is that they are gateways through which you
will eventually see a full spectrum of political and activist groups,
events and news publicised. While this list is skewed towards the south
west, it is intended as a gateway to key U.K forums and newswires.

I hope you find it useful in the years ahead.


1.) UK INDYMEDIA :
Visit: http://www.indymedia.org.uk/
By visiting the site you can publish your own news and events which will
appear on the right-hand column of the newswire shortly after submitting
your article. If you have news of a more regional nature you may wish to
visit one of the regional IMC's, listed on the left-hand column of the
newswire. Indymedia was founded in opposition to government and
corporate-sponsored media, and seeks to facilitate people being able to
publish their media as directly as possible.

2.) BRISTOL (& SOUTH WEST!) INDYMEDIA :
Visit: http://www.bristol.indymedia.org/
Bristol Indymedia now accepts posts from across the South West!
Especially those areas which are geographically its direct neighbours.
i.e: Bristol, Bath, Somerset, Wiltshire, Gloucestershire, Dorset. You
can post your own news directly onto the site by simply clicking the
'SUBMIT ARTICLE' button and filling out the form. BIMC also tends to
accept post from near areas of Wales, such as Cardiff and Newport,
although you may wish to visit Indycymru for all Wales news:
Visit: http://www.indycymru.org.uk/

3.) LIBCOM.ORG :
Visit: http://www.libcom.org/
Libcom.org has sections for all regions across the U.K which you can
post your own news and events onto. Visit the main page and click on the
appropiate region. There also exists a wide range of additional
resources and articles accessed through the front page. LibCom.org
intends to be a resource for all people who wish to fight to improve
their lives, their communities and their working conditions. They want
to discuss, learn from successes and failures of the past.

4.) SOCIAL FORUMS : LIBCOM.ORG :
Visit: http://www.libcom.org/britain/social-forums.php
Libcom.org also has a page listing Social Forums across the U.K. There
currently exists no recognised central hub to publicise U.K Social
Forums through, so please visit this page to find a Social Forum near to
you, and also please ask Libcom.org to publicise your local Social
Forum. Local social forums have sprung up around the UK. Their purpose
is to make links between groups and individuals, in the belief that
getting together is vital for effective campaigning and local action.

5.) URBAN75 FORUMS :
Visit: http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/
Part of the Urban75 e-zine, which can be found here:
http://www.urban75.com/ You can post directly to the Urban75 Forums,
which include a number of regional sections. "Urban75 serves up a
non-mainstream viewpoint on a wide range of issues including
environmental action, rave culture and civil rights, as well as offering
essential drug information, rave rants and resources, cartoons, short
stories, a popular photo gallery and, of course, 'the most useless games
on the web'" (US Today).


Please visit and make use of all these forums and newswires to maximise
your own publicity, and to find out what's happening across the U.K
behind the censored facade of the mainstream media.

Happy new year!
_________________________

Just got this in an email. I liked the e-zine. Enjoy, and remember, When In Rome, Do As The Vandals.

[Scabies]

Haahaha, i remember Urban75 from my schooldays where i'd spend all my IT lessons lobbing bricks at Tony Bliar. Good times.

[Sid]

So, you're stopping the growth of jobs, economic expansion and potential business from coming to your area for a tree that no one would care about if this wasn't happening?

The world needs more parking lots.

[coheneran]

Those of you who are against ID cards and biometric systems, you'll love this:

December 22, 05
A finger in the eye for biometrics
Dead finger walking...

Researchers at Clarkson University appear to have confirmed what a number of recent experiments into the reliability of biometrics have strongly hinted at – in its current form it can be easily, almost routinely, fooled.

With funding from the National Science Funding Foundation (NSF) behind them, as team at the University investigated the “legal and privacy issues raised from broader applications of biometric system technology in airport security, computer access, or immigration.”

The major area of enquiry was fingerprint technology. Casts were made of live fingers using kiddie Play-Doh, and the team even went to the extreme of taking fingers from cadavers, all to test how easily the systems could be spoofed. From 60 samples, a shocking false verification rate of 90 percent was achieved.

This rate was reversed when the experiments were conducted again with the addition of a new system developed by the University for detecting real fingerprints using patterns of sweat found on live or real fingers. That still left a false verification rate of 10 percent, however.

The University didn’t name the system or systems tested.

It will be heartening to anyone who advocates finger biometrics that there is clearly room for improvement. Add in a metric that verifies whether the fingerprint is from a real, live person, and the system works tolerably well. Equally, “tolerably well” isn’t really good enough in the context of the problem the technology claims it can solve, that of helping to layer security in key locations such as airports or buildings.

By coincidence, Lenovo out a press release this week hailing the fact that it had shipped the 1 millionth Thinkpad with an integrated fingerprint reader. These are used in conjunction with passwords, so it is fair to say that fingerprint biometrics are certainly no less secure than conventional PCs which don’t have the systems.

But are they really worth paying a premium for, even if they do act as a deterrent? It is all about how one assesses the willingness of criminals or hackers to undermine the system. We’ve seen that consistently underestimated in the past.

http://www.techworld.com/midsizedbusiness/features/index.cfm?featureid=2108&inkc=0

[Scabies]

The thought of ID cards really scares me, I mean i don't want anyone (let alone the Government) knowing my retina scans, fingerprints etc. Its bad enough already with the sort of powers and information the coppers have nowadays...

[coheneran]

The thought of ID cards really scares me, I mean i don't want anyone (let alone the Government) knowing my retina scans, fingerprints etc. Its bad enough already with the sort of powers and information the coppers have nowadays...

You live in the UK? Do something about it. There are so many organisation fighting hard against the new ID card scheme.

http://www.defy-id.org.uk/

[sam-a-lam]

The thought of ID cards really scares me, I mean i don't want anyone (let alone the Government) knowing my retina scans, fingerprints etc. Its bad enough already with the sort of powers and information the coppers have nowadays...

i dont live in the UK.. but that is pretty creepy.. i havent heard of that happening(happaning?) here in the US.. but if it does.. i will be severly pissed

[coheneran]

i dont live in the UK.. but that is pretty creepy.. i havent heard of that happening(happaning?) here in the US.. but if it does.. i will be severly pissed

UK is a pilot. If it goes well here (It officially starts 2008), you guys will probably get it around 2010-2020.

[Scabies]

Is the UK a pilot scheme? I thought quite a few countries already have ID card systems in place..

[coheneran]

Is the UK a pilot scheme? I thought quite a few countries already have ID card systems in place..

Many do, but none with biometrics. You know in Minority Report the advertising companies have everyone's names so when they walk by they can direct adverts at them? Well, think of this as the first step towards that world. The information on the biometrics database will be available to "selected 3rd parties".

[Ghostfire3]

I don't understand. What exactly are these IDs used for?

[coheneran]

I don't understand. What exactly are these IDs used for?

The official reason is that they will stop terrorism and identity theft. However, ir has been proven many times in tests and in theory by many different groups and individuals that it's impractical, expensive, and can be bypassed with a little effort and a little technology. There will be chips in the card that hold information such as DOB, height, weight, fingerprints, retina scans, and, if the project goes well, your financial, medical and criminal records by 2020. This information will be available to some third parties (meaning any company with enough money and enough friends in high places) and they had plans to make it compulsory to "swipe" your ID card if you wanna buy stuff, so they know if you're drinking alcohol or buying bongs etc.. This is the second step towards a 1984-like dystopia, the first step being CCTV everywhere.

[Ghostfire3]

The official reason is that they will stop terrorism and identity theft. However, ir has been proven many times in tests and in theory by many different groups and individuals that it's impractical, expensive, and can be bypassed with a little effort and a little technology. There will be chips in the card that hold information such as DOB, height, weight, fingerprints, retina scans, and, if the project goes well, your financial, medical and criminal records by 2020. This information will be available to some third parties (meaning any company with enough money and enough friends in high places) and they had plans to make it compulsory to "swipe" your ID card if you wanna buy stuff, so they know if you're drinking alcohol or buying bongs etc.. This is the second step towards a 1984-like dystopia, the first step being CCTV everywhere.

That is complete bullshit. No ****ing way they can do that.

[coheneran]

That is complete bullshit. No ****ing way they can do that.

Dude, they're the government, they can do anything if they pitch it in a way that doesn't seem completely satanic and wrong to the general public. Which is just about everything they do.

[Ghostfire3]

Dude, they're the government, they can do anything if they pitch it in a way that doesn't seem completely satanic and wrong to the general public. Which is just about everything they do.

So let me get this straight. They're testing it in the U.K. first, and if all goes well, then other countries (such as America) will follow suit?

[coheneran]

So let me get this straight. They're testing it in the U.K. first, and if all goes well, then other countries (such as America) will follow suit?

That is the idea, yes.

[Ghostfire3]

That is the idea, yes.

Wow, that blows. Hopefully it's extremely unsucessful. You gotta protest that ****. :thumb:

[coheneran]

Wow, that blows. Hopefully it's extremely unsucessful. You gotta protest that ****. :thumb:

Right now what we need to do is raise awareness. If you copy an article about it from the defy-ID website I posted and email it to a bunch of people and get them to circulate, that'd be great. Most of the british public don't know much about the new ID scheme.

[Anti-Prefix]

I go to many protests, and set them up myself. I am vegan and protest that as well.

To sum up activism and direct action in a nice and "sugjugate-to-all" manner:
"Change within yourself what you want to see change within the world."
-Gandhi.

[coheneran]

I go to many protests, and set them up myself. I am vegan and protest that as well.

To sum up activism and direct action in a nice and "sugjugate-to-all" manner:
"Change within yourself what you want to see change within the world."
-Gandhi.

Another way is:
"We're gonna boot down boot down boot down the door! Smash their oppression, smash their law!"
Oi Polloi

Well, to sum up direct action anyway.

[Ghostfire3]

Both good quotes. :p The Ghandi one seems a litt bit more... oh what's the word.... peaceful!

[Anti-Prefix]

Another way is:
"We're gonna boot down boot down boot down the door! Smash their oppression, smash their law!"
Oi Polloi

Well, to sum up direct action anyway.

Yes, but there is way more to direct action than mindless violence.

[sam-a-lam]

The official reason is that they will stop terrorism and identity theft. However, ir has been proven many times in tests and in theory by many different groups and individuals that it's impractical, expensive, and can be bypassed with a little effort and a little technology. There will be chips in the card that hold information such as DOB, height, weight, fingerprints, retina scans, and, if the project goes well, your financial, medical and criminal records by 2020. This information will be available to some third parties (meaning any company with enough money and enough friends in high places) and they had plans to make it compulsory to "swipe" your ID card if you wanna buy stuff, so they know if you're drinking alcohol or buying bongs etc.. This is the second step towards a 1984-like dystopia, the first step being CCTV everywhere.

that sounds very very un-apealing

[MechanicalClockworkOrgy]

theres not much in terms of protests or much in my small, boring, christian, college town
i dunno, i go to our food not bombs quite a bit (mostly only in summer though, its wayyyyyyyyyyy tooo cold now though), and whenever i dumpster food that i dont need, i give it to them
i go to local shows, and everyonce in a while theres a peace walk
i set up a show once, lost near 100 bucks though
at the moment im helping my friend set up a distro in the place hes moving to college in (he cant stand horror punk scenes i guess, so hes going to try and crust it up a bit in terms of music)
probly the biggest thing ive done was broke lights on a boat thats firmly stuck in a park, i HATE it, it does nothing, and shouldnt be there, its a boat that used to travel along the mississippi during the civil war and pick up "traveling salesmen"

the secret history is that the boat picked up slave traders and their slaves, not many people know this, but its still up and a big part of our ****ty little town

direct action seems to be absent among alot of anarchists, the types of anarchists who talk and talk and preach and preach, theres nothing wrong with that but words are only words unless theyre followed by action

man i hate ranting about something that doesnt really need to be said :P

[coheneran]

theres not much in terms of protests or much in my small, boring, christian, college town
i dunno, i go to our food not bombs quite a bit (mostly only in summer though, its wayyyyyyyyyyy tooo cold now though), and whenever i dumpster food that i dont need, i give it to them
i go to local shows, and everyonce in a while theres a peace walk
i set up a show once, lost near 100 bucks though
at the moment im helping my friend set up a distro in the place hes moving to college in (he cant stand horror punk scenes i guess, so hes going to try and crust it up a bit in terms of music)
probly the biggest thing ive done was broke lights on a boat thats firmly stuck in a park, i HATE it, it does nothing, and shouldnt be there, its a boat that used to travel along the mississippi during the civil war and pick up "traveling salesmen"

the secret history is that the boat picked up slave traders and their slaves, not many people know this, but its still up and a big part of our ****ty little town

direct action seems to be absent among alot of anarchists, the types of anarchists who talk and talk and preach and preach, theres nothing wrong with that but words are only words unless theyre followed by action

man i hate ranting about something that doesnt really need to be said :P

Lol. Judge people by their actions, not their words. Is there a Starbucks or McDonalds in your town(there must be)? Because if it is, it's time it got vandalised. Make sure to leave an anonymous note behind saying why you and your friends (don't go it alone) trashed the place.

[lfantwister]

theres not much in terms of protests or much in my small, boring, christian, college town
i dunno, i go to our food not bombs quite a bit (mostly only in summer though, its wayyyyyyyyyyy tooo cold now though), and whenever i dumpster food that i dont need, i give it to them
i go to local shows, and everyonce in a while theres a peace walk
i set up a show once, lost near 100 bucks though
at the moment im helping my friend set up a distro in the place hes moving to college in (he cant stand horror punk scenes i guess, so hes going to try and crust it up a bit in terms of music)
probly the biggest thing ive done was broke lights on a boat thats firmly stuck in a park, i HATE it, it does nothing, and shouldnt be there, its a boat that used to travel along the mississippi during the civil war and pick up "traveling salesmen"

the secret history is that the boat picked up slave traders and their slaves, not many people know this, but its still up and a big part of our ****ty little town

direct action seems to be absent among alot of anarchists, the types of anarchists who talk and talk and preach and preach, theres nothing wrong with that but words are only words unless theyre followed by action

man i hate ranting about something that doesnt really need to be said :P

Does your town know about the "secret history" of the boat? If it isn't publicized (like it sounds like) do that, and shock your small boring christian college town. Or at least inform them. If you do I'm sure there will be people who will align with you against the boat, etc

[RudeBoyStompin]

Coheneran, have you ever read V for Vendetta? It's a graphic novel by Alan Moore and David Lloyd (movie based on it is coming out in March). It's about an anarchist vigilante who dresses up as Guy Fawkes and tries to bring down the totalitarian British gov't (like a 1984 dystopia universe thing). It's an awesome book. You'd love it.

From what you're saying the real Britain is sounding more and more like what is portrayed in the book. One of the first panels in the book shows a video camera attached to a streetlight.

[AIRIC]

Coheneran, have you ever read V for Vendetta? It's a graphic novel by Alan Moore and David Lloyd (movie based on it is coming out in March). It's about an anarchist vigilante who dresses up as Guy Fawkes and tries to bring down the totalitarian British gov't (like a 1984 dystopia universe thing). It's an awesome book. You'd love it.

From what you're saying the real Britain is sounding more and more like what is portrayed in the book. One of the first panels in the book shows a video camera attached to a streetlight.

Oh crap I saw a preview for that when I saw the Ringer. It looks pretty good.

[RudeBoyStompin]

Oh crap I saw a preview for that when I saw the Ringer. It looks pretty good.

You gotta read the book first though, it's awesome.

[coheneran]

You gotta read the book first though, it's awesome.

I will, and there ARE CCTV cameras on many lamp posts. And in every High Street, and in some parks, and various other miscellaneous places. I'll look out for the book, thanks.

[Culture Shock]

Man, I am cool. I buy my pants from Wal-Mart, keep the tags, wear them for a few weeks/months, and then I take them back and get new ones. It is like renting movies, it's great. I've done this with countless pairs and I think it is time to take advantage of the Wal-Mart return policy once again.

Take this knowledge and go in peace... or nawt! Not really activism but what the hell.

[RIP Ian Curtis]

I will, and there ARE CCTV cameras on many lamp posts. And in every High Street, and in some parks, and various other miscellaneous places. I'll look out for the book, thanks.


Don't really care about CCTV, stops scum from kicking my head in on a Friday night, so no complaints here really. I really doubt the government are smart and organized enough to actually run such a huge ID cards/cameras/mind control chips implanted into the meat of your arse conspiracy.

[coheneran]

Don't really care about CCTV, stops scum from kicking my head in on a Friday night, so no complaints here really. I really doubt the government are smart and organized enough to actually run such a huge ID cards/cameras/mind control chips implanted into the meat of your arse conspiracy.

Of course they are. Well, maybe not controlling your mind through your arse, but combining the CCTV and ID card scheme is do-able. Granted, CCTV are a good way of catching thieves etc., but only if the criminal is stupid enough not to wear a hat or a hoodie. If you're wearing one of those, the CCTV can't do sh'it to identify you, apart from maybe finding someone that tall with that colour hoodie. Why do you think so many shopping-centres have banned hoodies? It's because CCTVs are helpless against them. Another thing to think about is, where does all the CCTV footage go, and who watches it and archives it? I'm sure it's a government branch independent from the police, they don't have the time or money for an operation that large. But I've ever heard of any kind of place or branch of government that stores the CCTV. Weird huh? Think about it, it's footage of the whole nation going about it's daily business, what would happen if that building was burned down?

[ROT]

england gets everything first
:(:angry:

govt is a misleading term
and they are
only the mind control comes from conditioning during your formative years andschooling
and peer pressure
and tv
and medications
and whatever they put in the food and water and air
and poo

i predicted the mandatory id years ago
psh
get wit da times people
next up is mandatory mental health screenings/meds?

[skavid]

Man, I am cool. I buy my pants from Wal-Mart, keep the tags, wear them for a few weeks/months, and then I take them back and get new ones. It is like renting movies, it's great. I've done this with countless pairs and I think it is time to take advantage of the Wal-Mart return policy once again.

Take this knowledge and go in peace... or nawt! Not really activism but what the hell.

That is such a great idea. I'm going to steal it.

[ROT]

exchange by deception
:(

[ROT]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/january2006/040106leaflet1a.jpg

[Culture Shock]

That is such a great idea. I'm going to steal it.

You are welcome to although they do look at your ID when you return things. For the tags I just tape the stickers back on and I staple the rest. Wal-Mart sucks so much, haha.

[holy_roller99]

it seems a bit risky. is that in any way illegal?

[coheneran]

it seems a bit risky. is that in any way illegal?

I doubt it's illegal, but even if you got caught, you will be made to pay 20 bucks for 5 pairs of jeans or something like that.

[Ghostfire3]

I doubt it's illegal, but even if you got caught, you will be made to pay 20 bucks for 5 pairs of jeans or something like that.

I don't got that kind of money!

[coheneran]

I don't got that kind of money!

Sell stolen jeans=P

[Ghostfire3]

Coheneran, are you a feminist? I'm assuming you are because of your avator.

[coheneran]

Coheneran, are you a feminist? I'm assuming you are because of your avator.

Yeah. And a (wow it snowed last night) gay/bi/trans rights activist. But I don't wear one of those stupid shirts that say "This is what a feminist looks like". Why?

[Ghostfire3]

Yeah. And a (wow it snowed last night) gay/bi/trans rights activist. But I don't wear one of those stupid shirts that say "This is what a feminist looks like". Why?

Just curious. Because, my friend is a feminist and she's all about the feminist punk bands and such. Her favorite's Bikini Kill. But yeah, she was going to a get a tattoo of your avator, but decided she's going to get a different one.

[coheneran]

Just curious. Because, my friend is a feminist and she's all about the feminist punk bands and such. Her favorite's Bikini Kill. But yeah, she was going to a get a tattoo of your avator, but decided she's going to get a different one.

Tell her not to get a tatoo because it gets recorded if she's arrested.

[Ghostfire3]

Tell her not to get a tatoo because it gets recorded if she's arrested.

What if they don't see it. She's planning on getting it on her back and her shirt would be covering it she ever gets arrested.

[coheneran]

What if they don't see it. She's planning on getting it on her back and her shirt would be covering it she ever gets arrested.

When I was arrested they asked me if I had any tattoos or birthmarks and I said no because I don't, but if they ever find out you lied to them about ANYTHING, they would go down on you like a ton of bricks, especially if you are a known/suspected activist. They hate activists.

[Ghostfire3]

When I was arrested they asked me if I had any tattoos or birthmarks and I said no because I don't, but if they ever find out you lied to them about ANYTHING, they would go down on you like a ton of bricks, especially if you are a known/suspected activist. They hate activists.

What'd you get arrested for? Protesting?

[Liebensaft]

Hahaha. I got arrested for disorderly conduct in a Wal-Mart. I was with a bunch of friends and we were just running around, and playing with ****. The managers flipped out. I was playing with a wheelchair, and an old greeter guy kicked me out. Then the rest got kicked out. Then we saw cops, and tried to run away to the movie theater next door, but they weren't too happy with it.