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12-05-2005, 11:19 AM

There will probably be a lot of deals over the next few days, with big questions surrounding:

Manny Ramirez
A.J Burnett Signing with Cardinals? (Rumors?)
Further Breakup of the Marlins (Pierre shipped off)
Johnny Damon Signing
Further Mets acquisitions?
And lots more...

Personally, I think the only package good enough to get Manny Ramirez is bound to come from the Mets... but unless the Red Sox get Milledge and Heilman, I don't think they'll trade Manny. He's too valuable to 'give away'.

Magical_Mystery_Tour

12-05-2005, 05:25 PM

I would have to say that Manny will stay with the Sox. Even they know that he's to important to lose.

robo2448

12-05-2005, 05:58 PM

Oh well I guess my MLB Offseason Thread wasn't good enough.

The Mets *could* trade for Ramirez if they offered a strong package with Lastings Milledge featured. Ok this is a wild proposal that would never happen, but maybe they could straight up trade Beltran for Ramirez. Salaries match, but I doubt the Mets would do that because that would leave them with no centerfielder. If they were to acquire Ramirez it would have to be a package of prospects based around Milledge. Even that probably wouldn't be enough. I doubt the Sox will trade Manny, they know that a disgruntled Manny is still better than most hitters.

As a Yankees fan, I'd love to see Pierre in pinstripes, as long as the Yankees don't give up Wang, Cano, or prized prospects Eric Duncan or Phil Hughes. Which means it's pretty unlucky a trade would happen, but you never know.

Burnett and Damon will get tons of money, but nobody is dumb enough to give Johnny Damon a 7 year contract like he's supposedly asking for.

I feel so high and mighty posting in a thread by the administer.

Illmatic

12-05-2005, 06:03 PM

robo2448

12-05-2005, 06:13 PM

The Red Sox would be foolish to trade Manny to the Mets. Who would they get in return? "prospect" Aaron Heilman, a prospect, and the terrible contracts of Floyd (who bombed last time he was here) and/or Kris Benson (who just sucks).

Unless the Sox can get someone who protects Papi in the lineup at least half as well as Manny could, they should hold onto him.

Heilman isn't even a prospect anymore. He's just a guy who was drafted high who has never made it big in the majors. He's just been stuck between AAA and the majors for a while now. In my eyes, that makes him pretty much worthless but in the Mets eyes it makes him a star prospect. I dunno, he's talented, but he's had chances to prove himself at the major league level and hasn't done anything. I too can't see the Sox doing this trade.

Pazz

12-05-2005, 06:14 PM

Is anyone surprised by the Blue Jays signing B.J Ryan for 5 year $47Mil contract?

12-05-2005, 06:14 PM

I agree that the packages for Ramirez aren't too intriguing, but what about Manny's statement that he won't show up in spring training if Boston keeps him?

robo2448

12-05-2005, 06:21 PM

Is anyone surprised by the Blue Jays signing B.J Ryan for 5 year $47Mil contract?

I love BJ Ryan and I really wanted him to become NY's setup man, but if the Yankees paid that much for him, I would have gone and killed Brian Cashman. Ryan had one great season as a closer. Mariano Rivera has had eight amazing seasons as closer and is probably the single greatest relief pitcher ever. BJ Ryan should not be making more than Mariano Rivera to put it simply.

I don't believe Ramirez when he says that he won't show up at spring training just because he's pulled this multiple times over the last few years and not gone through with it. I've never heard him make a threat like that about not going to spring training before though, so maybe he's serious this time. Even so, I can't see Boston trading him.

Illmatic

12-05-2005, 06:25 PM

Heilman isn't even a prospect anymore. He's just a guy who was drafted high who has never made it big in the majors. He's just been stuck between AAA and the majors for a while now. In my eyes, that makes him pretty much worthless but in the Mets eyes it makes him a star prospect. I dunno, he's talented, but he's had chances to prove himself at the major league level and hasn't done anything. I too can't see the Sox doing this trade.

Yeah, I quoted "prospect" because when you're 26 years old, you're not a prospect, you're a dud.

I agree that the packages for Ramirez aren't too intriguing, but what about Manny's statement that he won't show up in spring training if Boston keeps him?

He says all kinds of crazy things. Half of me isn't worried about it, the other half isn't worried about the Sox swinging a deal for him, although I am distressed that the only good rumor floating around (Manny for Abreu) was quickly shot down.

Is anyone surprised by the Blue Jays signing B.J Ryan for 5 year $47Mil contract?

Considering that relief pitchers are regularly overvalued in the FA market...no.

I love BJ Ryan and I really wanted him to become NY's setup man, but if the Yankees paid that much for him, I would have gone and killed Brian Cashman.

Yeah but you guys are giving Farnsworth what, 6 million a year? And Farnsworth just sucks.

Kurtz

12-05-2005, 06:26 PM

Boston won't get trade away Manny if they had any sense in themselves. His value is through the roof.

Manny's been complaining about Boston for what seems like the day he's been there, but he seems to just be all talk when he shoots off crap like saying he won't show up at spring training. But then again, I've never seen him so upset with his current state with them.

robo2448

12-05-2005, 06:31 PM

Yeah, I quoted "prospect" because when you're 26 years old, you're not a prospect, you're a dud.

Yeah that's what I was saying. I didn't see the quotes.

Yeah but you guys are giving Farnsworth what, 6 million a year? And Farnsworth just sucks.

I was never a fan of Farnsworth, but you can't deny his great stuff. I trust Brian Cashman. If this was a Steinbrenner move I'd be wary but I trust Cashman's opinion. I've seen Farnsworth melt down in a few big situations though, and that worries me a lot. I'd rather give Farnsworth the $17 million we gave him than give BJ Ryan $47 million or Tom Gordon three years.

Illmatic

12-05-2005, 06:33 PM

No, Kyle Farnsworth just sucks. "great stuff" doesn't matter when you have no idea how to use it. He was a failure in Chicago and was only half decent in Atlanta because of Leo Mazzone. He is going to be a bust with the Yankees.

Magical_Mystery_Tour

12-05-2005, 07:06 PM

Oh well I guess my MLB Offseason Thread wasn't good enough.

:lol: I loved that thread. I guess that baseball is a tough topic to sell, especialy in the off season.

robo2448

12-05-2005, 07:29 PM

:lol: I loved that thread. I guess that baseball is a tough topic to sell, especialy in the off season.

It's still on the first page, but nobody posts in it anymore:(

Illmatic, I don't really agree with you about Farnsworth but don't really feel like arguing. You know, there are other teams in baseball besides the Yankees and the Red Sox and you don't have to turn every thread into a Yankees vs. Red Sox arguement. There was no reason to bring the Farnsworth signing into a discussion about BJ Ryan.

3074326

12-05-2005, 08:21 PM

Farnsworth will be a good setup guy. Not great, but good.

I'm not sure where Manny will go. He wants to go Anaheim, but I haven't heard too much about that deal in the past few days.

How about Barry Zito to LA? I think it's possible. I'd stay in Oakland if I were him, though.

Magical_Mystery_Tour

12-05-2005, 08:29 PM

How about Barry Zito to LA? I think it's possible. I'd stay in Oakland if I were him, though.

Zito to LA, huh. That would be ok for him, but beter if he stayed in Oakland. His curveball makes me drool. :p

ThePatient

12-05-2005, 08:30 PM

Farnsworth will be just as good as anyone they had setting up last year, not leaps and bounds better, but enough.

And I swear, if Zito gets traded, and I find out the Orioles didn't even try, someone's head is getting busted. They didn't even try for the other 2 of the big 3, so they better get this one. And now they lost out on Byrd who wanted to go back to Leo Mazzone, but the O's wouldn't ante up. Another waste of an offseason here in B-More. But at least we get mentioned in the new 'Melo ads. :rolleyes:

Kurtz

12-06-2005, 01:14 AM

Zito in LA would be great.

Our rotation is in a need of repair as it is, he would help to say the least.

Magical_Mystery_Tour

12-06-2005, 08:01 PM

Blue Jays have nabbed Burnett. 5 years 55 million. Our pitching staff will look pretty sweet now. Gooooo Blue Jays.

robo2448

12-06-2005, 08:30 PM

Blue Jays have nabbed Burnett. 5 years 55 million. Our pitching staff will look pretty sweet now. Gooooo Blue Jays.

You guys are really spending this offseason. If they are both healthy, Halladay and Burnett will be pretty scary at the top of the rotation.

3074326

12-06-2005, 09:04 PM

The Jays should be a little closer to contending for that AL East title. I don't think they'll get it. Yet.

Manny is talking with the Mets and Angels.

Pazz

12-06-2005, 09:22 PM

The Jays still need a good #4 hitter until they can do any damage.

Illmatic

12-06-2005, 10:01 PM

Magical_Mystery_Tour

12-06-2005, 10:03 PM

The Jays still need a good #4 hitter until they can do any damage.

123. Thats excactly what we need. We got a closer and a new starter, but we wont win if we can't score runs. Aquire a good bat and we will be in contention. We are still a ways away from the Yankees/Sox skill level, but we will be there one day. Hopefully Alex Rios will become the future of the team(a good future taht is).

robo2448

12-07-2005, 04:07 PM

The Blue Jays certainly are taking a lot of risks.

Also, I think they replaced their front office with the Red Sox/Yankees'.

I hope the Red Sox don't trade Manny to the Mets or the Angels, not only because neither will give them anything worthwhile, but I don't want Manny on another AL team.

Well the Mets are national league...
but the Angels with Manny, Guerrero, and Garrett Anderson in the middle of the order with guys like Chone Figgins getting on base all the time would be flat-out scary.

Vernon Wells struggled last year but I'm a big fan of his and think he's a good middle of the order type hitter. I'm not sure what happened to him last year though. As everyone has said though, you guys still need another bat. Alexis Rios has a ton of talent but didn't show any power last year. If he works out a lot over the offseason and gets a lot stronger, he'll be great. As he gets older, he could be a 5-tool player, he's got lots of tools and potential.

I like your rotation- Halladay, Burnett, Chacin, Lilly... and then there's Towers. Well you've got 4 really good guys.

Kurtz

12-07-2005, 05:53 PM

Manny is talking with the Mets and Angels.
Does he still want to be on a West coast team?

Magical_Mystery_Tour

12-07-2005, 06:42 PM

Well the Mets are national league...
but the Angels with Manny, Guerrero, and Garrett Anderson in the middle of the order with guys like Chone Figgins getting on base all the time would be flat-out scary.

Vernon Wells struggled last year but I'm a big fan of his and think he's a good middle of the order type hitter. I'm not sure what happened to him last year though. As everyone has said though, you guys still need another bat. Alexis Rios has a ton of talent but didn't show any power last year. If he works out a lot over the offseason and gets a lot stronger, he'll be great. As he gets older, he could be a 5-tool player, he's got lots of tools and potential.

I like your rotation- Halladay, Burnett, Chacin, Lilly... and then there's Towers. Well you've got 4 really good guys.

:lol: National leauge.

I have alwyas been a hug Vernon wells fan, adn I hope he has a better season next year, well at least hitting wise. He still led the team in HR's(with like 28ish) and got the Center Field Gold glove.

As for starters, we are looking good. Halladay is a bit injury prone, but when he is healthy he is one of the top pitchers in the leauge. I hope Burnett will live up to the money. Chacin is a great young pitcher(should have been AL Rookie of the year :upset:), who I hope will have a long and prosperous carrer with the Jays. Lilly didn't impress me much last year, so he has this year to re-deem himself. Towers is decent, and with Ryan closing, I can't help but hope for a good season.

Magical_Mystery_Tour

12-07-2005, 08:25 PM

Hey hey. I have heard rumours about Jays looking into Nomar Garciapara. That would be sweet. We would fill the hole we have in the infield and get a good hitter to boot (as long as he stays heathly).

DuckinFutch

12-07-2005, 08:57 PM

Pssh...

Nomar blows...

He'll have two good weeks, go in a slump for a month, then pull a hammy and be out for the year...

I was really hopeing that the Yankees would make a deal for Pierre, I think some more speed at the top of the lineup would have really helped...

But now I hear rumours of the Yankees wanting Soriano, and putting him in CF :eek: just imagine how amazing their lineup will be then... By far the best in baseball... :chug:

And while the Marlins are still giving everyone away, I really, really hope they try and get Dontrelle... Young, amazingly talented, I'd say he's definitaly worth a prospect or 3.... But I doubt it'll happen...

Magical_Mystery_Tour

12-07-2005, 09:01 PM

Pssh...

Nomar blows...

He'll have two good weeks, go in a slump for a month, then pull a hammy and be out for the year...

Thats why I said if he stays healthy. You forget how good he was on boston a couple years ago.

DuckinFutch

12-07-2005, 09:04 PM

Even in Boston, he wasn't ever that amazing...

I wouldn't even really put him in the top 10 for ss's right now, I think. He's an awful fielder, and other than a few good seasons, he was never that great...

Illmatic

12-07-2005, 09:34 PM

Until he hurt his wrist in 2001, Nomar WAS amazing and you're an idiot if you think otherwise.

Also, Roger Clemens is still not telling the Astros his plans for 2006.

I'm supposed to be surprised that some weasel with no sense of loyalty would do something like this?

Mute Print

12-07-2005, 09:38 PM

Peter Gammons was saying that Clemens is going to pitch in the World Baseball Classic, and then there's a possibility that he might take some time off and return to the Astros in mid-May or early-June.

That would be interesting, because it might allow Roger to be stronger than he usually is in September and October.

Magical_Mystery_Tour

12-07-2005, 09:45 PM

Heard about the World Baseball Classic. I'm going to be rooting for team canada, but compared to the U.S. and Dominican teams, we look pretty bad. :upset:

3074326

12-07-2005, 10:46 PM

Nomar was arguably the best shortstop in baseball when he wasn't injured. He was an incredible fielder, incredible hitter, he had no flaws.
Does he still want to be on a West coast team?

I haven't heard otherwise. Since he's still talking with the Angles, I'd assume so.

3074326

12-07-2005, 11:47 PM

But now I hear rumours of the Yankees wanting Soriano, and putting him in CF :eek: just imagine how amazing their lineup will be then... By far the best in baseball... :chug:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2251887

"Rangers trade Soriano to Nationals for three players"

Notably, Brad Wilkerson.

robo2448

12-08-2005, 08:00 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2251887

"Rangers trade Soriano to Nationals for three players"

Notably, Brad Wilkerson.

Wilkerson is an outstanding player, but I think the Rangers could have gotten a better deal for Soriano. Don't get me wrong, I think Wilkerson is great, but the Rangers need pitching in the worst way and I don't understand why they wouldn't try to use Soriano to pick up some pitching talent. Wilkerson still fits their need for a centerfielder though, and he'll do really well playing at that stadium.

In other news, the Red Sox are really owning this offseason. They traded Renteria to Atlanta and got Mark Loretta from San Diego for Doub Mirabelli. First, the Renteria trade. I think it's a great trade for the Red Sox. Renteria just didn't work out for the Sox. They also got Andy Marte, a great prospect who can play in the majors this year. He's a third baseman, but I think he can play shortstop too, though I'm not sure on that. Even if he can't play shortstop, they fixed that problem with the Mark Loretta trade. Loretta is one of the best infielders in the game. Gold glove fielder, fast, gets a lot of hits and gets on base. He's a second baseman, but can easily handle shortstop if necessary. They got him for Doug Mirabelli. An all-star second baseman for a backup catcher:eek: This trade just makes zero sense for San Diego:smash: Can't see why they are doing it. They need a catcher, but there are certainly better options out there than Doug Mirabelli. Not that Mirabelli is bad, but to give up an all-star second baseman for him is just stupid.

Now if Marte can't handle short stop, then maybe they have to start Cora and that would be pretty weak. But if he can and they have Loretta, Marte, and Lowell playing everyday, that will be a pretty productive offense. Even if the deals don't work out perfectly like that, the Red Sox will be better long-term without Renteria's contract and with Marte.

In other news, Miguel Tejeda wants out of Baltimore.

seanman99

12-08-2005, 08:11 PM

Yaa me ex-expos actually make a deal for a big player. On another note Red Soxs are tearing up the off-season. 2007 Pennant?? Make they can end the big 1 year drought.

Magical_Mystery_Tour

12-08-2005, 08:22 PM

Yaa me ex-expos actually make a deal for a big player. On another note Red Soxs are tearing up the off-season. 2007 Pennant?? Make they can end the big 1 year drought.

:lol: sorry. Blue Jays for World Series. And then the WORLD.

seanman99

12-08-2005, 08:31 PM

:lol: sorry. Blue Jays for World Series. And then the WORLD.

Yes another Canadian baseball fan. :thumb:

Magical_Mystery_Tour

12-08-2005, 08:34 PM

Yes another Canadian baseball fan. :thumb:

Ya we have to stick together. Everyone I talk to has no intrest in baseball. It's nice to talk to another fan in Canada.

Pazz

12-08-2005, 09:07 PM

Canadian fan here too. I hope the Jays can get a good infielder before the off-season is over. I don't want them to get rid os Hillenbrand, which is what they were talking about doing.

3074326

12-08-2005, 09:22 PM

I still think that the Mets are having the best off-season.

Tejada wants traded now.

Magical_Mystery_Tour

12-08-2005, 09:26 PM

Canadian fan here too. I hope the Jays can get a good infielder before the off-season is over. I don't want them to get rid os Hillenbrand, which is what they were talking about doing.

Hillenbrand had a great season last year and I hope they don't get rid of him. Nomar would fill the infield nicely.

Pazz

12-08-2005, 09:26 PM

Tejada would look sweet in a Jays uniform. I doubt they will take him because he will want too much.

Magical_Mystery_Tour

12-08-2005, 09:27 PM

Tejada would look sweet in a Jays uniform. I doubt they will take him because he will want too much.

Seeing as they jsut spent like 95 mill on 2 pitchers, I doubt they have the money for him either.

3074326

12-08-2005, 09:27 PM

His money demands alone would probably be more than the Jays' payroll. :p

Pazz

12-08-2005, 09:29 PM

I would like to see the Jays get Nomar. But, it will be risky taking him. The Jays could use him for speed on the basepaths and in the infield. They also need an all-star #4 hitter.

Magical_Mystery_Tour

12-08-2005, 09:32 PM

I would like to see the Jays get Nomar. But, it will be risky taking him. The Jays could use him for speed on the basepaths and in the infield. They also need an all-star #4 hitter.

I am so happy. I have finially met a Canadian who knows the Blue Jays troubles as well as me. :thumb: Maybe living in a province with a team helps. I don't know anyone in my school who actually follows baseball like I do.

Pazz

12-08-2005, 09:39 PM

Same here. Everyone makes fun of me because I like baseball and because I play it. It doesn't bother me any. I'm different.

Magical_Mystery_Tour

12-08-2005, 09:46 PM

Same here. Everyone makes fun of me because I like baseball and because I play it. It doesn't bother me any. I'm different.

Brother. :chug: Lets hope that teh Jays have a good season.

Magical_Mystery_Tour

12-08-2005, 10:19 PM

Jays have Lyle Overbay. Noone can stop us now. MUH HA HA.

ThePatient

12-08-2005, 10:33 PM

Tejada would look sweet in a Jays uniform. I doubt they will take him because he will want too much.
...:angry:

But anyway, if they trade him, I may have to become a Nationals or Red Sox fan. There are ways to get by this without trading him, just try to field a winning team. That's all. They aren't THAT far away from at least being .500.

It hurts to be a Baltimore sports fan right now...

3074326

12-08-2005, 10:46 PM

Baltimore has had a rough year.

I feel your pain (kind of), the Reds seem to be trading their players away, too. But we have the Bengals playing well..

ThePatient

12-08-2005, 11:01 PM

You give me Adam Dunn, I'll give you a bushel of crabs, some of Boog's BBQ, and tickets to the ESPNZone and the National Aquarium. I'd love to throw in more, but we have nothing else. Unless you want AIDS, we have a lot of that.

You guys can afford to keep trading, you have 13 capable outfielders.

3074326

12-09-2005, 01:09 AM

Dunn for Tejada? Eh?

I'd be happy if the Reds pulled in a player of that magnitude.

DuckinFutch

12-09-2005, 11:56 AM

Jays have Lyle Overbay. Noone can stop us now. MUH HA HA.

He was awesome the first half of the season, but kind of fell off the second half.

I doubt the Jays will get the wild-card or division, unless either the Yankees or Red Sox totally bomb, which I doubt will happen...

But it's good to keep wishing. I just really don't see them haveing enough offense to contend...

robo2448

12-09-2005, 02:50 PM

Dunn for Tejada? Eh?

I'd be happy if the Reds pulled in a player of that magnitude.

Come on, you got Tony Womack. What more can you ask for than that?

Illmatic

12-09-2005, 03:25 PM

It is kinda sad to see Blue Jays fans get this excited about their team, seeing as how they spent almost 100 million dollars on a pretty good closer and a shaky starting pitcher, and their biggest acquisition on offense was an ex-Brewer first baseman whose claim to fame was being the one millionth light-on-power first baseman to be compared to Mark Grace.

And I also like the Mets' strategy this off-season. If they acquire every player in baseball, they have to have a pretty good shot at winning the division.

3074326

12-09-2005, 03:48 PM

Where did the Mets get all of this money?

I wouldn't be surprised to hear Tejada go to the Mets, along with Manny Ramirez, Roger Clemens, Barry Zito, and Johnny Damon.

Illmatic

12-09-2005, 04:29 PM

They earned a little extra revenue last season from Pedro, but something tells me they are writing up a whole lot of "I.O.U"'s to all the shady movers and shakers in New York.

robo2448

12-09-2005, 05:07 PM

The Mets have always had the revenue (being in NYC). Their organization has just been run by morons for pretty much the last 40 years so they haven't taken advantage of it. Minaya is taking a risk, he's hoping that by spending and bringing in big names, the team will get some more attention- more fans will come to the game, more money from merchandise etc. So far, it's working. They took a risk and it paid off for them, and they have aroused some interest. George Steinbrenner pretty much invented this idea in the early '70s. It worked for him in the '70s, but then it killed the team in the eighties so I think that scared some guys away from trying that approach.

Magical_Mystery_Tour

12-09-2005, 08:42 PM

It is kinda sad to see Blue Jays fans get this excited about their team, seeing as how they spent almost 100 million dollars on a pretty good closer and a shaky starting pitcher, and their biggest acquisition on offense was an ex-Brewer first baseman whose claim to fame was being the one millionth light-on-power first baseman to be compared to Mark Grace.

You don't like our plan of filling the team with unreliable players? All I can do to hope for a good season. With a couple of dissapointing years, this year is looking up on the last years.

ZEROthirtythree

12-10-2005, 09:35 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/baseball/mlb/12/10/ramirez.tejada.report/

I'll take Ramirez.

ThePatient

12-10-2005, 09:44 PM

I won't, at least not without someone else (a pitcher, duh) being thrown into the deal. I'd love to know what other teams are offering, because they must be pretty grand offers for the Orioles not to make a fuss over Manny Ramirez. Either way, I wouldn't trade Tejada for anything less that a slugger and pitching help. And even then, I pray they don't trade him.

3074326

12-11-2005, 01:54 AM

I'd take Tejada in a hearbeat. He can do everything Manny can do, only more. He's just as much of an offensive thread, a tremendous defender, and he has speed.

I love Manny, but he's slow, a terrible defender, and he seems to lack motivation sometimes..

Illmatic

12-11-2005, 03:39 PM

robo2448

12-11-2005, 03:49 PM

I think both teams would be better off how they are now. Personally, I think Tejeda is the overall better player, but Ramirez is a better hitter and is too important to the Red Sox to trade. The Red Sox are a better team with Ramirez, and I think the Orioles are better off with Tejeda than they would be with Ramirez. Ramirez would hit a ridiculous number of homeruns in Camden Yards but the Orioles need an all-around player to build around, not a slugger, and Tejeda is a better guy to build a team around. I don't think this would make any sense for the Orioles to do, and while it would make sense for the Red Sox, they're probably a little better off with Manny.

3074326

12-11-2005, 06:20 PM

I wouldn't call Miguel Tejada as much an offensive threat...Manny is, other than Pujols, the single most dangerous righthanded hitter in the game.

That said, I would not mind trading Manny for Tejada.

I don't know.. Tejada could probably put up some huge numbers if he was in Manny's spot in the Red Sox batting order. I'm not going to debate about this though, it's hard to tell. They're both extremely talented offensive players. I'll leave it at that.

Illmatic

12-11-2005, 09:30 PM

Tejada is certainly a very good offensive player and he would be a very productive player in the cleanup spot, but he is still not the hitter Manny is. Not even close.

ThePatient

12-11-2005, 09:48 PM

Better player all around though. Which is why I was glad to see this:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baseball/bal-tejada11,1,7556248.story?coll=bal-sports-headlines

robo2448

12-17-2005, 09:29 AM

Fortunately it seems like Nomar isn't as interested in the Yankees as he was a couple days ago. Don't get me wrong, Nomar could still be a great player, but just the injury risk + the 5-6 million salary + the fact that he couldn't even handle the Boston media and would die with the NY media + the fact that I've always hated him because he seemed to not try hard at times make me relieved that we won't sign him. Now we'll sign Miguel Cairo instead. I really liked Cairo when he played with us in 2003, he hit .300, never struck out, could move runners over and do all the little things, and always played hard. He'll probably only cost 800,000 so he's a much safer signing than Nomar even if Nomar could add much more offensive firepower.

The Yankees have also been rumored to be a match for Johnny Damon with Mike Myers and A-Rod campaigning for him. Damon would be a great fit but I think of him as the symbol of the Red Sox 2003 team and it would just be wierd to see him in pinstripes.

We also acquired Ron Villone yesterday. Should be a nice lefty in the bullpen.

Illmatic

12-17-2005, 01:43 PM

Roger Clemens to the Red Sox?

Kill me now.

Not even A-Rod would be as hard to root for in a Red Sox uniform.

Kurtz

12-17-2005, 03:55 PM

Roger Clemens to the Red Sox?
He just needs to retire. I respect him for what he's contributed in stats, but he doesn't know how to keep is word.

///

Nomar, Nomar?

Where are you?

Magical_Mystery_Tour

12-18-2005, 01:32 PM

Nomar agrees do deal with the Dodgers. An $8 mill, 1 year deal is in the works. A dogers offical would not talk about this subject.

Magical_Mystery_Tour

12-18-2005, 06:30 PM

Baseball fans, take a look at this.

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/wbc/index.jsp

It has all the info on teh MLB Baseball Classic. It even shows teh rosters of the countrys participating. Canada has a good roster, but compared to the US and the Dominican Rep. (many more good countries but those are 2 of teh better ones) make us look like minor leagures. Maybe we can win, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

Take a look and enjoy waht should be a very fun baseball tournament.