Sonor, Mapex, Yamaha, Pdp, Rmv, Tama, Pearl?

[Drum Monkey]

I've been doing alot of research lately and I stopped into Just Drums and Music Pro today...

I would like to upgrade my current drum set (Westbury :upset: ) to an intermediate/semi-pro kit. I was almost sure of buying a 5-piece SONOR Force 3005 but now I'm not too sure... If anyone has any experience with any intermediate/semi-pro kits please post...

Also please no flaming, you may tell your PERSONAL opinions based on EXPERIENCES. ex: Jim may have EXPERIENCED bad TAMA Customer Service and may post that, but if you've heard from a friend whose heard from a friend... :rolleyes: please don't post...

Thanks

-DM

[PremierManiac]

Premier Artist, birch or maple. All around good kits, they sound phenominal.

[Drum Monkey]

checking them out...

-DM

[Drum Monkey]

not too fond of the tom sizes... (12" x 9" and 13 x 10")

I would prefer 12" x 10" and 13" 11"

-DM

[BetweenTheEchoes]

Sonor 3005. That is really all that needs to be said.

[rockindrummer]

I would either go for the 3005 or a mapex pro m. Both are great kits, they are made in the same factory. I would go for the sonor as their hardware is better than mapexs and I prefere sonors tom mount. Make sure to try both kits out side by side to see which one has a sound you prefere.

[White]

Go with the 3005, they are wicked Kits, Or An M Pro, they are good wicked to

[Drum Monkey]

I was looking at the Pro M... I just need to find a dealer near Toronto...

-DM

[Drum Monkey]

I'm on their site... MAPEX doesn't have a kit that's like SONOR's Stage 1, or do they???

-DM

[Seafroggys]

has anybody here actually played on the Pro Ms and 3005s (except the people that own them obviously) I have never seen one in person :( my local GC doesn't stock Sonors or Mapexs

[Drum Monkey]

How about YAMAHA Stage Advantages?

-DM

[White]

The Advantages, they are pretty decent, Im not a fan of them much but I stillt hink they are good. But I would still go with Pro M or 300%, And I have palyed on both, My cousin used to own a 3005 and a music store in nova Scotia I went to one time had the Pro M

[Japan3gro]

Yeah Seafroggy's I know what you mean. I only seen those kits in the massmusic shop but never played one of them =[. Basically it comes down to hardware,sound, and price. The 3005's might be cheaper but you might not like the toms or you might like the toms from mapex but not the hardware. Seems like a tough choice. This is one of the reasons on my next kit I'm just going all out so I want have to buy another lol.

[Drum Monkey]

I am pretty much looking for the most bang for my buck considering I will be owning this kit for a while...

My price range is $1500 max. I might spend a little more but not too much... I am also looking at used DW and TAMA Starclassics, aswell as high end MAPEXs, SONORs and PEARLs etc.

-DM

[Japan3gro]

Well since we know your price range you could go for some Mapex Saturns now haha. Yamaha maples are a little more expensive but if you plan on keeping the kit for a while look into those too. If you can't test out these drums thats gonna suck bad.

[The Ska Man]

Premier Artist, birch or maple. All around good kits, they sound phenominal.



I'd consider it a semi-pro/pro kit.

[Drum Monkey]

Well since we know your price range you could go for some Mapex Saturns now haha. Yamaha maples are a little more expensive but if you plan on keeping the kit for a while look into those too. If you can't test out these drums thats gonna suck bad.

Keep in mind it's $1500 Canadian in Canada.

-DM

[Massik Kretal]

How much is that American?

I'd go with the Sonor 3005 or the Catalina Birch set.

[BetweenTheEchoes]

My advice would be to try your best to get the little extra money to afford one of these...

http://cgi.ebay.com/SONOR-S-CLASS-5-PC-KIT_W0QQitemZ7370663802QQcategoryZ38097QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/SONOR-S-CLASS-MAPLE-LACQUER-FINISH-6-PC-KIT-NICE_W0QQitemZ7370578239QQcategoryZ38097QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem

[Half Life]

has anybody here actually played on the Pro Ms and 3005s (except the people that own them obviously) I have never seen one in person my local GC doesn't stock Sonors or Mapexs

^Yes I have. I own a set of Pro M's and I've played the 3005's at a shop quite a ways away from me. Both are great kits and are very similar. Really the only thing that I could see hindering your choice is that the 3005 is a tad bit more expensive(at least here in the US).

[Drum Monkey]

$1500 CDN is approx. $1250 USD.

The only problem with buying used is I am very picky about shell sizes aswell as finishes. I also do not like the amount of scratches and dents in the second link...

-DM

[Seafroggys]

well I don't think any of us could forget you owning a pro-m :lol:

[Drum Monkey]

Really the only thing that I could see hindering your choice is that the 3005 is a tad bit more expensive(at least here in the US).

I also have to locate an Ontarian MAPEX dealer if I decide with those... How is the mounting system? Comparable to SONOR? Also, what is the sound difference like (3005/M)? Should I look into birch?

-DM

[Massik Kretal]

If you have about 1200 USD I'd go for a Premier Artist Maple. My friend has it and all I have to say is wow. It is made perfectly and it sounds amazing. Heres a link:

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4658&page=2

[The Ska Man]

If you have about 1200 USD I'd go for a Premier Artist Maple. My friend has it and all I have to say is wow. It is made perfectly and it sounds amazing. Heres a link:

http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4658&page=2


Yes, they are awesome, but it is just a shell pack. That means no stands, or pedals.

[Massik Kretal]

Oh didn't know that. But he doesnt need stands or a pedal becuase he has that from his old set. Then when he has more money he can get a nice Iron Cobra or DW pedal or something.

[rockindrummer]

I was at a gig on saturday and the house kit was a stage custom. It was a very nice kit. Nice big bass sound (it was miced though) and the toms sound rather nice, with the stock heads on aswell. I would look into them if the price is right. I would also go second hand if you can, there are some amazing deals out there.

[playwithfire]

The Sonors are very nice drums, I own a low-end Sonor set, it's still easy to tune, and gets nice tone, despite being relatively inexpensive.

I played Stage Customs for years, they are great drums, never had any real complaints about them except the tom mounts, but they didn't have any YESS or anything like that, older Stage Customs.

PDP kits you have to be selective with, there are some nice ones and there are a lot of lemons I've noticed and played around with.

Played an Export extensively before, and it continually left me unimpressed. I wouldn't recommend it.

Rockstars gave me the same impression as Exports, though I played them less, but I imagine Superstars are similar.

[Double Bass Jim]

Go with the 3005, they are wicked Kits, Or An M Pro, they are good wicked to
For sure.

The two most reccomended kits... For a reason!

[Half Life]

well I don't think any of us could forget you owning a pro-m :lol:

Haha, yeah man I hear ya ;)

I also have to locate an Ontarian MAPEX dealer if I decide with those... How is the mounting system? Comparable to SONOR? Also, what is the sound difference like (3005/M)? Should I look into birch?

The mounting system on the Pro M is, IMO, amazing. It is small and discreet so the drum isn't weighed down and the finish isn't blocked but even so, it's really rugged and won't let you down. It also had the ball and joint adjustments so tom angles are super easy to get perfect and the actual tom arm doesn't even penetrate the bass shell so there's another plus. I really like the TAR system though. Both sets have great mounting systems that are designed really well so you don't have to worry about that. As far as sound is concerned, I've found both sets to be very resonant(based on my head choice)with great tone. A lot of the sound depends on how you tune the heads and what heads you use, but the drums themselves are immaculate and can sound beautiful if you let them :thumb:

[RichHunt]

3005 easily. Sonor just have great quality standards. Yamaha's great too.

[SonorKen]

I play on 3005's and Catalina Birchs on a regular basis. The Catalinas don't compare to the 3005's in the slightest. Go with the 3005's. They are Pro-level drums, solid construction, great customer service, and sound GREAT.

[Aaron]

my fav kits at the moment:
Yamaha Oak Custom
Yamaha Beech Custom
Sonor Force 3005

[Drum Monkey]

ok thanks for the feedback, now I just have to save up about $1500 and get the guy at the store to match an Internet price... :rolleyes:

I`m deciding between either the Autumn High Gloss or the Red Maple finishes...

-DM

[Drum Monkey]

The guy at Just Drums wasn't too certain about Force 3005s I think mainly because they are made in China... Not that he is racist (I'm guessing) but judging by everyone's feedback they seem amazing... I just need to try them out... I think they'll blow my Westbury's away... BTW I would like a shell + hardware pack, hi-hat stand, two booms, snare stand and a bass pedal until I get an Iron Cobra... That's another reason I like the SONOR...

-DM

[VTDS_xx]

PDP. Comes with everything you just listed -1 Boom stand, but you can get an 800 series stand for under 40 dollars.

[fatcow2000]

RMV.

thats it. honestly, you can't go wrong, even the standard(stock) heads are amazing.

[Corkofski]

the one thing i have heard about rmv was a horror story...

[Drum Monkey]

RMV.

thats it. honestly, you can't go wrong, even the standard(stock) heads are amazing.

I think they're a little more expensive than 3005s... not too sure though...

-DM

[Drum Monkey]

the one thing i have heard about rmv was a horror story...

I heard that one guy got a splinter in his bass drum or hoop or something... That's horrible :angry:

Care to list yours?

-DM

[Brokensticks]

Sounds like we have a similar story, I had westbury drums and I got my 3005's this year and they are uncomparible.

[Drum Monkey]

I want your kit :lol:

-DM

[Drum Monkey]

Sounds like we have a similar story, I had westbury drums and I got my 3005's this year and they are uncomparible.

Did you buy your kit from a music store in B.C.? How much (if you're willing to say) was it? I would like to compare that to the prices here...

-DM

[BetweenTheEchoes]

Heh. I was playing on a ****ing Peavey kit before I got my Sonors.

[Brokensticks]

Did you buy your kit from a music store in B.C.? How much (if you're willing to say) was it? I would like to compare that to the prices here...

-DM

I payed $977.77 Canadian + tax was around $1120.00

I bought it in B.C from L&M, it was originally $1200.00 plus tax i'm pretty sure, but I know both Managers of the store, because their child was on my lacrosse team and they gave me a bit of a discount.

[aznriceball]

gretsch catalina birch. iv experienced the price tag and and live sound. havent a chance to record em yet

[Drum Monkey]

I payed $977.77 Canadian + tax was around $1120.00

I bought it in B.C from L&M, it was originally $1200.00 plus tax i'm pretty sure, but I know both Managers of the store, because their child was on my lacrosse team and they gave me a bit of a discount.

I have to check out the L&Ms around here :rolleyes:

They would sell for around the same price I'm sure...

-DM

[Double Bass Jim]

I play on 3005's and Catalina Birchs on a regular basis. The Catalinas don't compare to the 3005's in the slightest. Go with the 3005's. They are Pro-level drums, solid construction, great customer service, and sound GREAT.
Yea those drums get a huge :thumbs down: from me. Their a rip and the mounting system blows hard.


The 3005's could EASILY be classed as a pro-level kit.

[SonorKen]

^^^^ agreed. Anyone interested in the Catalina kit should change out the heads on them and pay attention to how quick they lose their tuning.

[Parradiddle Pete]

It seems that it has been left to me to throw peace paragon into the equation. But I dont know the prices in anything other than GBP, I have been on a currency calculator and it says 1,391.64 USD = 799GBP I think it would probably be a bit cheaper. In the UK paragons are rough equivalent to the pro ms and 3005s. I say paragon all the way if you have funds and a dealer near you

[Parradiddle Pete]

Stage custom nouveau aswell, is roughly equivalent in th UK :lol: and i love them too

[Drum Monkey]

GBP? Great British Pounds? $1,391.64 USD = approx. $1,668.30 CDN... I don't know if anyone around here deals Peace kits...

-DM

[Panopticon]

yep...

http://www.heartbeatpercussion.com

Don't worry guys...the link is real...

and barrie is only 45 minutes away from where i live so yeah...they deal with Peace and Alchemy and i think Istanbul

[Drum Monkey]

wow thanks! :chug: We go to Oakville for school hockey tournaments...

I just received a reply from L&M. They quoted the SONOR Force 3005 5-piece to be $1175 + TAX :amaze: That's great! I'll definitly check out PEACE though :thumb:

-DM

[Loyton]

Mapex saturn.


/thread

[Parradiddle Pete]

/re-open thread


Peace Paragon.

BTW Anybody know any stockists of the peace octobans in the UK???

[Loyton]

/re-open thread


Peace Paragon.

BTW Anybody know any stockists of the peace octobans in the UK???

o yea, i forgot im not a mod.

[Double Bass Jim]

The peace kits are KILLER, very impressive.

[Loyton]

The peace kits are KILLER, very impressive.

Not to mention the finishes are wickeddd!! Petes set has a GREAT finish, they know how to do thier sparkles!

But ive never heard them, so i cant say either way. Ive heard good things though. What i can tell you is my mapex saturn really does sound better than DW's ive played, and the finish is disgustingly beautiful. In short you wouldnt be dissatisfied!

[Double Bass Jim]

Yea man the saturns really are amazing, when I was down at WW&BW that kit impressed me the most. Those things are unbelivble.

[Loyton]

I cant wait till i get some alone time with the studio so i can record some stuff for you guys DBJ! Those K custom darkie hats just totally mesh with the kit and make it come togetor.

[Double Bass Jim]

Awesome man, what a great purchase those were.

[Peacedrumguy]

For that price you can pick up a new 9 ply maple DNA kit from Peace with either hand sprayed sparkle or clear lacquer finishes... Worth checking out!
http://www.heartbeatpercussion.com

[Drum Monkey]

I'm hoping to try out some Stage Customs soon... See how they sound...

-DM