METALLICA is making a new album. [Archive]

Matthew2250

11-28-2005, 09:20 AM

You know this is just going to descend into people saying that metallica aren't very good anymore. But hopefully now they've got some of the crap out of their systems they might make something special, heres to hoping.

Edit: in the time it took to write that someone started it already...so much for reasoned arguments

sk8inbassist17

11-28-2005, 09:22 AM

^^yea, if it comes out i will go listen to it at my local music store and see how it is. If i can hear trujillo i may buy it but.
meh.

Linkinbassist

11-28-2005, 09:35 AM

If trujillo has any imput in anything, it will be old metallica with a slight funk twist in rythms, maybe? is so, i'd cream my pants at it...

sk8inbassist17

11-28-2005, 09:42 AM

that may be kool if it had a funk twist to it.

d-mart

11-28-2005, 09:44 AM

that may be kool if it had a funk twist to it.

You really think they're going to let him have that kind of imput on an album?

Left Shoe

11-28-2005, 09:44 AM

you really think metal would mix well with funk?

nisakss

11-28-2005, 09:47 AM

you really think metal would mix well with funk?

123.....I just don't see how they would mix, except maybe for a short break down in a song or something

Phalanx

11-28-2005, 09:48 AM

123.....I just don't see how they would mix, except maybe for a short break down in a song or something

If people can do Jazz Metal, im sure there are people who could do Funk Metal. Metallica on the other won't be able to do it simply because they're not very good.

/Thread

burtonbassist_101

11-28-2005, 09:53 AM

do you really think that they'll make another st anger after all the criticism its gotten?

yes i think that the new album will be better and yes, i think that rob will actually get to have some input in songmaking

New Born

11-28-2005, 10:02 AM

^Exactly. I'm just hoping they've learnt from their mistakes and will return to form. Wishful thinking, perhaps...

Esp Griffyn

11-28-2005, 10:04 AM

As long as they get that douche Trujillo out, get Jason back, get some power in their playing again, and start making more albums like Reload, Then they have returned to form in my book.

Jimbobntnr

11-28-2005, 10:08 AM

lak89

11-28-2005, 10:10 AM

st. anger was ok, but i'm hoping for something better this time from them, i'll be getting it anyway when it comes out. But i HOPE they do something better

Chris K

11-28-2005, 10:56 AM

I they get back Jason, keep the funk out and make an album as good as Saint Anger I'll be pleased, because that was a great record.

Cil

11-28-2005, 11:09 AM

you really think metal would mix well with funk?

Nope, not at all. That would be a horrible combination indeed!

FunkMetal, who would have thought bands like Primus, Faith No More, and Dir En Grey would ever surface from that crap?

Led_Zeppelin678

11-28-2005, 11:27 AM

unfortunately, their "mistakes" have made them millionaires. They quit making music for the metallica fan as soon as the video for One hit MTV and they started getting a real paycheck.
I will have to leave this in the unpurchased section of the metallica catalogue.

I mostly agree with that^.

Jason Newstead blows. He always has. He always will. Robert Trujillo is ten times the bassist Newstead is.

slickric3462

11-28-2005, 11:33 AM

I mostly agree with that^.

Jason Newstead blows. He always has. He always will. Robert Trujillo is ten times the bassist Newstead is.

that may be true but it really doenst matter, newstead played all of their songs with no problem, he had the look, the energy and he fits metallica way better then that monkey lookin asshole. and the simple fact that they all sobered up and are mature means they'll never make albums like they used to.

Chris K

11-28-2005, 11:38 AM

thathe fits metallica way better then that monkey lookin spatula

So true. he rocked, unlike that tool Trujillo.

Led_Zeppelin678

11-28-2005, 11:48 AM

neatobassman

11-28-2005, 12:15 PM

I'm looking foward to Robert Trujillio writting basslines to the music this time, not that dick Bob Rock. It would be intence if he wrote ike he did with Suicidal Tendencies

Naveed Afzal

11-28-2005, 12:16 PM

i never saw the big fuss about metallica and metallica bass parts, newsted, burton, or truijillo...

but has anyone ever considered metallica is making music they want to play instead of music you want to hear, because the band is the people who make music, and if youve ever been in a band, you know playing something you dont want to play zaps all your energy out, and leaves you almost dead the entire show.

Take Cold For Instance, Only God knows why they recorded Stupid Girl, but they did it was a huge hit for them, but they hate the ****ing song, and dont play it alive.

So while i bet the dont really care you dont like their music, i think they enjoy the fact they get to play music, and they actually get to do more then live off it.

Sergio

11-28-2005, 12:18 PM

I will have to leave this in the unpurchased section of the metallica catalogue.

So wait, you've already decided not to buy the album before it's even made?

Wow.

Jimbobntnr

11-28-2005, 12:36 PM

So wait, you've already decided not to buy the album before it's even made?

Wow.
yes, yes blah blah closed minded blah blah. I bought more than I care to admit hoping that they would be great again.
Did anyone else catch james Hetfield performing on the waylon jennings tribute?

neatobassman

11-28-2005, 12:39 PM

Thank you Captain Obvious:rolleyes: , they didn't do the ussal summer tour so what else would they be doing.

not writing. Don't be an asshole

naut

11-28-2005, 12:49 PM

you really think metal would mix well with funk?

joke?

naut

11-28-2005, 12:49 PM

As long as they get that douche Trujillo out, get Jason back, get some power in their playing again, and start making more albums like Reload, Then they have returned to form in my book.

:amaze:

pukeboy66

11-28-2005, 12:50 PM

As long as they get that douche Trujillo out, get Jason back, get some power in their playing again, and start making more albums like Reload, Then they have returned to form in my book.

what he said

slickric3462

11-28-2005, 01:00 PM

Newstead never looked the part. He's a joke around here. Literally. We use "Newstead" as an insult (in a joking manner, of course, not in serious arguments). Trujillo is a talented bass player. He's been doing session work for years, he can play upright, and freakin A the man can play Battery with two fingers!

you're such a moron it honestly hurts, who cares if trujillo can play upright with one hand while strangling a hooker with the other, bottom line him and his stlye of playing doenst fit metallica, newsteads did

Naveed Afzal

11-28-2005, 01:02 PM

^ LOL AHAHAHHAA

Truijllo is a demigod.

Jimbobntnr

11-28-2005, 01:05 PM

you're such a moron it honestly hurts, who cares if trujillo can play upright with one hand while strangling a hooker with the other, bottom line him and his stlye of playing doenst fit metallica, newsteads did
I liked the way that the only indication that there was bass on Justice was the periodic woofer fart.
Don't get me wrong, I was actually a big fan of trujillo before he even started playing bass. I think they were both in the wrong band.

E_man

11-28-2005, 01:10 PM

Ok here's the lowdown -

If bob rock is producing, it'll be down the line since black, so kinda Load style

It wont be like St.-crap arse- anger cos of the rep its got

Trujilo (yea wrong spelling, like I give a ****) will definetly have a say, so hopfully it'll be like the 80's again. And with him as the awsome bassist he is, it should be abso-****ing-lutely amazing :smash:

lemoley

11-28-2005, 01:24 PM

am i the only person here who actualy liked St. Anger?

Sergio

11-28-2005, 01:33 PM

am i the only person here who actualy liked St. Anger?:wave: There aren't many of us!

Except for the trash-can snare drum.

lemoley

11-28-2005, 01:34 PM

:lol:

:wave:

E_man

11-28-2005, 01:35 PM

Except for the trash-can snare drum.

die, die, die, die, die, die by the hand...

PaulR

11-28-2005, 01:37 PM

If it has guitar solos, it has the possibility of being "ok".

Phalanx

11-28-2005, 01:56 PM

Newstead never looked the part. He's a joke around here. Literally. We use "Newstead" as an insult (in a joking manner, of course, not in serious arguments). Trujillo is a talented bass player. He's been doing session work for years, he can play upright, and freakin A the man can play Battery with two fingers!

I think you need to understand that you're not talented if you can play upright.

This is very similar to when you said Billy Sheehan could groove when he was playing in a Jazz Trio. Same, you don't necessarily have groove when you play Jazz

:amaze:

Esp Griffyn

11-28-2005, 02:04 PM

Newstead never looked the part. He's a joke around here. Literally. We use "Newstead" as an insult

Yeah, Id hate to be likened to a bassist who has made millions, spent 15 years with one of the planets biggest bands, played with Voivod, Ozzy and others, did a night with the San Francisco Symphonic etc.

:rolleyes:

mastrrbasser

11-28-2005, 02:12 PM

trujillo is a great bassist. His work with infectious grooves is incredible and his suicidal tendencies stuff is good too. I can't wait until i can hear his input in metallica. I don't really like metallica at all, but trujillo is a monster. and no, that was not a pun for "some kind of monster." I doubt he'el be doing his funky slap in metallica, but im sure he can come up with some pretty clever basslines.

mastrrbasser

11-28-2005, 02:14 PM

Yeah, Id hate to be likened to a bassist who has made millions, spent 15 years with one of the planets biggest bands, played with Voivod, Ozzy and others, did a night with the San Francisco Symphonic etc.

:rolleyes:

I'm on the same page as you :lol:

i don't see why people dislike newstead. So what if he used a pick? He held his own in metallica and was really a driving force. Trujillo will be the new driving force behind metallica. They're both awesome bassists but really shouldn't be compared. They both have completely different backrounds and most likely different goals as bassist. It's no different than comparing les claypool to victor wooten. They're two completely different bassists and aren't trying to do the same thing.

Left Shoe

11-28-2005, 02:29 PM

Nope, not at all. That would be a horrible combination indeed!

FunkMetal, who would have thought bands like Primus, Faith No More, and Dir En Grey would ever surface from that crap?
oh wait you are right, i forgot i like primus...haha hell no

SLKBassist

11-28-2005, 02:42 PM

mister_tee

11-28-2005, 03:14 PM

i don't see why people dislike newstead. So what if he used a pick? He held his own in metallica and was really a driving force. Trujillo will be the new driving force behind metallica. They're both awesome bassists but really shouldn't be compared. They both have completely different backrounds and most likely different goals as bassist. It's no different than comparing les claypool to victor wooten. They're two completely different bassists and aren't trying to do the same thing.

Well said.

If you really don't like Metallica, why even bother coming into a thread about them...? :confused:

And just because Trujillo is more famed among bassists for his funk chops doesn't mean he's completely incapable of playing in a metal style. :thumb:

Sammy_L_D

11-28-2005, 03:16 PM

If the album is closer to the Black Album, or Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, etc., I'll like it.

Munky_Jam

11-28-2005, 03:24 PM

you really think metal would mix well with funk?
you idiot! Sorry.
Suicidal Tendancies and Infectious grooves. Primus (often very metalish).

of course you can mix the two. If done correctly you can mix almost any styles.

vashts80

11-28-2005, 03:35 PM

Sweet! I'm happy. Its about time they did.
I actually liked St. Anger, not my favorite of their albums, Master of Puppets is.
Yeah I doubt Trujillo will get much say, considering that St. Anger was one of the first times Kirk did. But if he does get some input that would be great, he could open a new aspect to Metallica, he is an amazing bassist. How awesome would it be if he actually were able to do a bass solo ala the late great Cliff Burton on Anestheisa.

Oh and I still think Newsted is an awesome bassist, easily one of my favorites, his input wasn't really there in his time with the band but thats just the way it was. As I said in another post, with his post metallica stuff some is really good, some I can't listen to cause i dont like the genre

People give Newsted too much ****. No idea why. Doomsday for the Deceiver is an amazing album.

People praise Burton too much, on the other hand. Considering he followed the guitars most of the time and didn't do anything special (holy god he used a distortion pedal!!!!!1oneoneone) it's ironic that people praise Burton but **** on Newsted, when Newsted was the more talented of the two. Newsted might not have known music theory, but his songwriting skills easily outshines Burton's.

As long as Trujillo gets some say in the new album, it should be decent.

Chris K

11-28-2005, 03:43 PM

People give Newsted too much ****. No idea why. Doomsday for the Deceiver is an amazing album.

A lot of people are jealous he has made a fortune or himself by doing what he loves, making music.

Spaceman Spiff

11-28-2005, 03:44 PM

It will suck.

Anyone who thinks Metallica will make another Master Of Puppets because of some bassist, get real.

sk8inbassist17

11-28-2005, 03:46 PM

am i the only person here who actualy liked St. Anger?

I enjoy that album,

but only some songs and too much of it makes me bord of it, i like the bass distortion in "the unnamed feeling"

Chris K

11-28-2005, 03:46 PM

yep, it's sad to say that they'll probably never top Blackened.

mastrrbasser

11-28-2005, 03:59 PM

Well said.

If you really don't like Metallica, why even bother coming into a thread about them...? :confused:

And just because Trujillo is more famed among bassists for his funk chops doesn't mean he's completely incapable of playing in a metal style. :thumb:

well their earlier stuff was pretty good, just not my type. I like to listen to all music so i know enough about metallica to talk about htem.

i never said he was incapable of playing metal, i just said that he can't be compared to newstead and newstead can't be compared to him They're two completely different bassists, and both have different points to put across.

Munky_Jam

11-28-2005, 04:02 PM

Newstead never looked the part. He's a joke around here. Literally. We use "Newstead" as an insult (in a joking manner, of course, not in serious arguments). Trujillo is a talented bass player. He's been doing session work for years, he can play upright, and freakin A the man can play Battery with two fingers!

You are the biggeest idiot i have ever met on here. Truly.
Personally i prefer trujillo to newstead but he was great. I expect you've never seen him live. Amazing. Anyway you're an idiot.

Good to see trujillo's upright skills will be useful in metallica.

****ing idiot

gregulus

11-28-2005, 04:41 PM

They just need booze and teenage angst again.

MasterofBass

11-28-2005, 04:52 PM

well, I don't know how this album will be...

I have 2 theories:

1) They will record a great album with everybody's input (importantly Rob's for the bass lines, because the ones on St. Anger sucked mostly, except for a few ok moments). If that happens, and Kirk starts to do solos again, and Lars fixes his snare drum, it may be a pretty darn good album.

or

2) they will continue down the line of St. Anger and suck.

I actually like some of St. Anger. If the songs were arranged differently, and were shortened or made more interesting and solos added, it probably would have been a better album.

If anybody watched the "Some Kind of Monster" documentary and heard when the one guy was listening to the songs they have, the version of "Sweet Amber" that had the solo I thought sounded great, but they had to cut that stuff out and make the alubm sub-par.

Also, if they all have input on the music, I think it'll sound better. Remember back in the Burton days how more people's names were on the songs other than the "Hetfield/Urlich" stamp that was on most of the later songs. I think Ride the Lightning is their best album, and Cliff had input on 6 of the 8 songs, and for Kill 'Em All you see his input on a few, as well as Mustaine's stamp on 4 of them. See where I'm heading with this?

bottom line, this is their last chance to redeem themselves in my book...

lemoley

11-28-2005, 04:58 PM

LZ: "the man can play battery with 2 fingers!"i can play 'battery' with 2 fingers and im nothing special :confused:

(please dont ask for recordings as im at boarding school and my recording equipment is back at home)

Chris K

11-28-2005, 04:59 PM

You are the biggeest idiot i have ever met on here. Truly.
Personally i prefer trujillo to newstead but he was great. I expect you've never seen him live. Amazing. Anyway you're an idiot.

Good to see trujillo's upright skills will be useful in metallica.

****ing idiot

I agree, it was a pretty dumb comment. No prisoners taken then!

Oh yeah, Battery is easier with two fingers...

Spaceman Spiff

11-28-2005, 04:59 PM

Remember back in the Burton days how more people's names were on the songs other than the "Hetfield/Urlich" stamp that was on most of the later songs.
Yes, that was around the time they ran out of Mustaine's material. :p

Chris K

11-28-2005, 05:05 PM

Yes, that was around the time they ran out of Mustaine's material. :p

Which was largely better than what metallica came up with...

MasterofBass

11-28-2005, 05:07 PM

Yes, that was around the time they ran out of Mustaine's material. :p

:lol: :lol:

maybe they should have mustaine on the next album... :naughty:

Low_End_Communications

11-28-2005, 06:28 PM

Most people don't realize that the good stuff stopped after Burton died because Burton wrote a majority of the guitar parts for 'tallica before he died.

Once Newstead came in, writing went to **** since it was up to Lars and James.

St. Anger would've been better if they wouldn't have made it sound like ****. The production is pure crap, and on purpose. If they wanted a 'raw' sounding album, they should've just recorded the whole thing on a coupla 8 tracks.

The next album will suck. Period. Trujillo totally pwns Jewstead when it comes to chops and ability, and so what if he doesn't look like Metallica. He's got chops that stand up to Burton.

bassistuvdoom731

11-28-2005, 06:33 PM

you really think metal would mix well with funk?

Messhugah
Entrapment
Listen
Now

its like robot p0rn, not funky per say, just really groovy

Munky_Jam

11-28-2005, 06:41 PM

yep, it's sad to say that they'll probably never top Blackened.
I know you guys are mostly young. But to be honest i remember having this same conversation about their new bassist and wether or not Metallica would suck with the new one, and if black was going to top puppets. then the same sort of conversation about load and reload.

To be honest i hated black and everything about it until i saw them live that tour

Alma

11-28-2005, 06:54 PM

Messhugah
Entrapment
Listen
Now

its like robot p0rn, not funky per say, just really groovy

Groovy? You think so?

Back to the topic, there are some many better metal bands than metallica.

bassistuvdoom731

11-28-2005, 06:56 PM

Groovy? You think so?

yah.

EDIT: well, maybe you misunderstood, i meant to emphasize the part before the guitar solo and the solo itself, those are the "groovy" parts. I really like the whole song though.

The whole album.

MasterofBass

11-28-2005, 08:10 PM

one key thing I forgot to add to my post before, but it's too far back to edit is:

I think thrash metal is making a comeback. Megadeth - The System Has Falied has topped all of their stuff since Rust in Peace. Kreator's Enemy Of God is good as well. Overkill's RelixIV is kick ***. And the newest one, Exodus' Shove Headed Kill Machine is great as well. I hope that Metallica will follow suit and really go back to the old days, not like all the hype with St. Anger that let me down.

Left Shoe

11-28-2005, 08:27 PM

you idiot! Sorry.
Suicidal Tendancies and Infectious grooves. Primus (often very metalish).

of course you can mix the two. If done correctly you can mix almost any styles.

You are the biggeest idiot i have ever met on here. Truly.
Personally i prefer trujillo to newstead but he was great. I expect you've never seen him live. Amazing. Anyway you're an idiot.

Good to see trujillo's upright skills will be useful in metallica.

****ing idiot
you seem to take personal offense here, are you truijilio?
Messhugah
Entrapment
Listen
Now

its like robot p0rn, not funky per say, just really groovy
i hate meshuggah

Naveed Afzal

11-28-2005, 11:28 PM

I love how everyone picks a bassist, and gets down and smarmy with their attitude.

Jublian

11-29-2005, 01:23 AM

LEC, thanks!!!

In my opinion the "Jason-era" isn't worth buying aside from a few songs. Newstead was basically a fill in that metallica had to "settle on". I think Trujillo will fit in fantastically and hoplefullyinfluence the album to something old school fans will appreciate.

in summary jason is a goof, rob is a badass

blizzard

11-29-2005, 03:41 AM

I suppose I'll put my opinion in here since everyone else has.

Cliff burton - good bassist, suited the band, had quite a bit of input in the writing stages, but most probably overated.

Newstead - I would say better bassist then Burton technically, little influence in the song writing, his basslines suited the songs he played on (when he could be heard), has some nice MELODIC solos (ie. Cunning Stunts), seemed to fit in.

Trujillo - Great bassist probably better then Newstead or Burton, hopefully will bring some new ideas, I believe his style really doesn't fit into the band great.

Having said that i can;t think of a better metal bassist for them.

As far as the album goes it should be ok... probably better then St. Anger. If it sounds like any of the previous albums i will be happy (seeing as I like all the previous albums even load and reload).

Crapdragoon

11-29-2005, 03:47 AM

You all can eat butt.

Trujillo doesn't fit the band?

All this dude has been doing for the past 20 years, is metal.

willobassman

11-29-2005, 04:19 AM

i hate meshuggah
I think much differently.

What band can write a 21 minute epic of polyrhythmic mayhem?

I can think of no other bar Meshuggah.

Take 'Rational Gaze' for example. The Guitars play in something like 23/16 or something and the cymbals on the drumkit play in 4/4 whilst the rest of the kit goes in the same time signature as the guitars.

You may not like them, and I can respect that but you cannot deny their virtuosity.

And curiously, what dont you like about them?

Skit

11-29-2005, 04:34 AM

As long as rob is playing on the album I'll buy it :thumb:

-The Frank

11-29-2005, 05:09 AM

You guys think if jason asked to come back, would 'tallica let him?

Chris K

11-29-2005, 05:18 AM

in summary jason is a badass, rob is a goof

Correct.

pukeboy66

11-29-2005, 05:18 AM

You guys think if jason asked to come back, would 'tallica let him?
no, they would laugh in his face

Skit

11-29-2005, 05:26 AM

You guys think if jason asked to come back, would 'tallica let him?

He did, they didnt ;)

muthafunkabass

11-29-2005, 06:11 AM

St.Anger=Masterpiece

Trujillo=God among men

Hetfield when drunk=A Bad Influence

Hetfield when sober=Musical Genius (he made ****ing St.Anger)

Jody LeCompte

11-29-2005, 06:17 AM

Soup sent me this on yahoo.

"James told Jason to run throug traffic and go get him a drink and he did, he told rob to do the same and rob said "**** you" and pushed james into the traffic"

Mailman

11-29-2005, 06:19 AM

I they get back Jason, keep the funk out and make an album as good as Saint Anger I'll be pleased, because that was a great record.
u fayle at music tayst

pukeboy66

11-29-2005, 06:26 AM

u fayle at music tayst

you fail at the english language.

Esp Griffyn

11-29-2005, 06:30 AM

u fayle at music tayst

You fail at not being retarded.

Sade

11-29-2005, 08:41 AM

St. Anger, a masterpiece?

I'm sorry, but you all seriously suck at music.

I post that, because...well, I'm almost positive nobody is kidding.

Alex

11-29-2005, 08:44 AM

anyone know when they are touring for this new album?

Sade

11-29-2005, 08:46 AM

anyone know when they are touring for this knew album?

Right after they finish touring the "Know" tour.

After that it's the "Learn to Spell" tour.

Alex

11-29-2005, 08:48 AM

it was a ****ing typing error, so **** off

Sade

11-29-2005, 08:49 AM

it was a ****ing typing error, so **** off

:lol:

Just a lil' bit o gramm-ar hum-ar mate.

Alex

11-29-2005, 08:50 AM

what are you talking about?

6stringslinger

11-29-2005, 09:36 AM

I have this months issue of Guitar World and I'm not trying to dispute the threadstarters comment, but unless I read over it Kirk makes a little joke about the next album will start off with a 78 minute guitar solo.

Other than that joke, he mentions nothing about a new Metallica album. Sure they are working on it but I don't think anything is written in stone yet.

Kirk also says that Metallica has reached different musical peaks and St. Anger was a different type of peak for them.:amaze:

Left Shoe

11-29-2005, 09:39 AM

I think much differently.

What band can write a 21 minute epic of polyrhythmic mayhem?

I can think of no other bar Meshuggah.

Take 'Rational Gaze' for example. The Guitars play in something like 23/16 or something and the cymbals on the drumkit play in 4/4 whilst the rest of the kit goes in the same time signature as the guitars.

You may not like them, and I can respect that but you cannot deny their virtuosity.

And curiously, what dont you like about them?
i can respect their talent, but that still doesnt mean i like them. tools drummer does 2 time signatures a bunch, or at least i hear about it a bunch but i dont listen to tool either.

what dont i like about meshuggah? their music

Jody LeCompte

11-29-2005, 11:13 AM

How come when a band starts getting more melodic instead of random shredding loud nonsense theyve sold out?(black album)

Jimbobntnr

11-29-2005, 11:16 AM

How come when a band starts getting more melodic instead of random shredding loud nonsense theyve sold out?(black album)
Because there were other bands doing the "melodic" thing already. We wanted another album just like the first two.

I agree with what I think you are saying, that the band has evolved. This stuff just happens I guess. My tastes have changed in the last 20 years, I'm sure Metallica's tastes have changed too. Maybe they want to play pop now.

Matthew2250

11-29-2005, 11:41 AM

Jimbobntnr

11-29-2005, 11:50 AM

Better than being stuck in the past like that Mustaine chap who in my opinion has not released a single good album.
lol, I don't condone heroine abuse, but he shoulda stayed on it.

Spaceman Spiff

11-29-2005, 02:40 PM

St.Anger=Masterpiece

Trujillo=God among men

Hetfield when drunk=A Bad Influence

Hetfield when sober=Musical Genius (he made ****ing St.Anger)
...

:lol: :lol:

...

Okay, since it doesn't seem like you're joking, St. Anger was a pile of garbage, Hetfield isn't a musical genius, drunk or sober, and Trujillo didn't enter until after that travesty of an album was recorded. Also, Bob Rock, their producer, played bass on it.

Purple Alien

11-29-2005, 02:42 PM

you really think metal would mix well with funk?

People never thought rap would mix with rock and look it happened

Spaceman Spiff

11-29-2005, 02:45 PM

The way I see it selling out is nonsense term used by people who don't like a new musical direction. I'm happy that metallica keep changing their sound, I like all of their albums on their own terms. Sure some are better some are worse but if you disregard the "metallica should release the same album again" mindset you can appreciate the music for what it is.

Better than being stuck in the past like that Mustaine chap who in my opinion has not released a single good album.
So do you also think the songs he wrote for Metallica suck? Or do you turn fanboy and defend them because it's Metallica playing the songs?

And, in my opinon, Megadeth totally destroys Metallica when it comes to quality. Both bands have put out bad albums, but while Mustaine somewhat redeemed himself with The System Has Failed, Metallica just continues to get worse and worse. S&M, crap. St. Anger, crap. Load and Reload were okay, but not great. They actually used to be a good thrash metal band, now they just write awful music.

muthafunkabass

11-29-2005, 02:56 PM

St. Anger, a masterpiece?

I'm sorry, but you all seriously suck at music.

I post that, because...well, I'm almost positive nobody is kidding.
you actually think that was serious? sade, i thought you were good at recognizing saracasm. (its gonna suck when you say that post was sarcasm:upset: )

muthafunkabass

11-29-2005, 02:58 PM

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:lol: :lol:

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Okay, since it doesn't seem like you're joking, St. Anger was a pile of garbage, Hetfield isn't a musical genius, drunk or sober, and Trujillo didn't enter until after that travesty of an album was recorded. Also, Bob Rock, their producer, played bass on it.
that was total sarcasm, im sry.:rolleyes:

PaulSimonon

11-29-2005, 02:58 PM

Trujillo rocks.

Metallica.... not so much....

But that Trujillo, he's a beast.

Jody LeCompte

11-29-2005, 03:18 PM

Because there were other bands doing the "melodic" thing already. We wanted another album just like the first two.

I agree with what I think you are saying, that the band has evolved. This stuff just happens I guess. My tastes have changed in the last 20 years, I'm sure Metallica's tastes have changed too. Maybe they want to play pop now.
What Im trying to say is, when they were loud and indistinguishable and the solos sounded like Kirk was beating his guitar with bat, everyone thought they were teh most amazing thing ever.

Then the more they got their act together the more **** they got from "fans". I wouldnt want to make a good album either if everyone talked **** to me at the pinacle of my career