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tobo

11-28-2005, 06:17 AM

I know this has proabbly been asked before, but I am thinking of buyng the perfect pitch cds for christmas.. Do any of you have it, and if so, is it any good/ is it worth it?

Thanks :thumb:

SlapHappySunshine

11-28-2005, 07:04 AM

Perfect pitch is almost impossible to have. I doubt cds can teach you this. Relative Pitch is much more important anyways.

T2k5

11-28-2005, 07:58 AM

Someone YSI'd the CD lessons during summer. I still have them but haven't listened.

pukeboy66

11-28-2005, 08:05 AM

could you reupload them and send em to me?

Matthew2250

11-28-2005, 08:16 AM

Wintermute

11-28-2005, 08:27 AM

As far as I know (and thats not very far, maybe 20 metres) you cannot learn perfect pitch. Relative pitch you can learn however. Though saying that I do recognise low B and some other notes and I don't think I have perfect pitch.

You actually can, sort of... but it takes a LONG time. Diana Deutsch did some experiments on native speakers of Mandarin and Vietnamese - languages which rely on tones and pitches as much as words to convey meaning, and she found that there was actually a rudimentary form of perfect pitch present. They could speak a given word at almost precisely the same pitch at any time, without being given a reference note. It's not quite perfect pitch, as they couldn't tell you what that pitch was, but it's certainly a big step in the right direction.

Of course, they had been speaking these tonal languages all their lives, and only had a rudimentary form of perfect pitch. So you can learn it, but NOT easily.

http://www.aip.org/148th/deutsch.html

Came across this while researching for a Psychoacoustics essay a few weeks ago.

Left Shoe

11-28-2005, 08:33 AM

I have them, i might upload them later for you if no one does.

the thing they do, is they teach you to associate a feeling with each note for example you could associate G# with fuzzy, so if you felt fuzzy when you heard a note youd know it was a g#. thats the first excersize i didnt make it trhough the second cd, they are kinda boring as hell. google "good ear" that site is actually a reall good website for ear training.

EDIT
winter mute that is a really interesting article

HaVIC5

11-28-2005, 01:29 PM

Relative pitch is what you need. People with perfect/absolute pitch can go crazy if something, anything, even a fan whirling is out of tune. I've seen it happen.

PaulR

11-28-2005, 01:31 PM

http://www.good-ear.com/index.html

Good site, courtusey of Mr Left Shoe

Manticore Guy

11-28-2005, 04:28 PM

Relative pitch is what you need. People with perfect/absolute pitch can go crazy if something, anything, even a fan whirling is out of tune. I've seen it happen.

My band teacher has perfect pitch, and he is a little crazy. One time last year, him and the other band teacher were arguing if someone was out of tune or not. The other band teacher was arguing his point that the person was intune, and then my teacher (who thought the person was flat) goes "I have perfect pitch". The other teacher just walked away:lol:

Left Shoe

11-28-2005, 04:31 PM

My band teacher has perfect pitch, and he is a little crazy. One time last year, him and the other band teacher were arguing if someone was out of tune or not. The other band teacher was arguing his point that the person was intune, and then my teacher (who thought the person was flat) goes "I have perfect pitch". The other teacher just walked away:lol:
when some of us mxers were at berklee, josh and i (there mightve been at least one more person in our ensemble from on here), had this keyboardist playing in our group. He had perfect pitch and it was kinda scary. he would just randomly be like "your c#'s are slightly flat" and he could pinpoint where the slight out of tune was coming from (this was in a room of 10 bass players a drummer and himself). crazy

Manticore Guy

11-28-2005, 04:54 PM

when some of us mxers were at berklee, josh and i (there mightve been at least one more person in our ensemble from on here), had this keyboardist playing in our group. He had perfect pitch and it was kinda scary. he would just randomly be like "your c#'s are slightly flat" and he could pinpoint where the slight out of tune was coming from (this was in a room of 10 bass players a drummer and himself). crazy

Haha yeah it is pretty weird. He'll just randomly go "The 4th flute in row 2 just played a D# instead of a C#" and look at whoever it was. It's pretty cool though also because he can like write out parts from his mind in like 4 different keys at the same time if he wants to add parts to a piece the band is playing.

Killer Fridge

11-28-2005, 05:00 PM

We had a guy at our band practices who would run around the orchestra pit retuning everyones instruments AS they were playing - just because he couldnt bear to hear them even slightly out of tune

i know someone else who has perfect pitch too whos damn good at piano - but cant bare to play it because its slightly out of tune - and cant afford to get it retuned

sucks huh

irishslappop

11-28-2005, 05:04 PM

this guy i know has perfect pitch, hes an amazing piano player. i just play a note on my bass without him looking and he knows what it is. its freakin nuts.

moghes69

11-28-2005, 05:29 PM

i downloaded the cd's for free at the end of the summer...i didn't get past the 4th or 5th lesson because school started and i was overwhelmed with band practices and such... from what i saw to the point i got, it helped a little bit. the perfect pitch that the cd's teach you don't help you specify whether or not a note is in tune, just if it is in the range of the note. or at least thats what the guy said.

Crudd-Bucket™

11-28-2005, 05:39 PM

Yeh I downloaded it, but I cbf finishing the course. I was the one who uploaded it ages back

Worrpigs

11-28-2005, 05:55 PM

i know a guy who has perfect pitch and he told me to play a b and i played a c and he died from going insane.

tobo

11-29-2005, 01:48 PM

kilian

11-29-2005, 01:51 PM

Relative pitch is what you need. People with perfect/absolute pitch can go crazy if something, anything, even a fan whirling is out of tune. I've seen it happen.
Quoted for truth.

You don't want 'perfect pitch'. You want a good pitch ;)

moghes69

11-29-2005, 03:32 PM

well if you cant tell if your in tune doesnt it make it fairly pointless?
how so... knowing what key a song is in just by hearing it, being able to transcribe songs with little to no effort, being able to hear how a song sounds before even playing it... in no way is that pointless

Left Shoe

11-29-2005, 03:53 PM

how so... knowing what key a song is in just by hearing it, being able to transcribe songs with little to no effort, being able to hear how a song sounds before even playing it... in no way is that pointless
and this enhances your playing because then you are like "hey i have an idea in my head and i can actually play it before i lose it"

moghes69

11-29-2005, 03:54 PM

exactly

Jody LeCompte

11-29-2005, 03:58 PM

Our very own mr_Soup has perfect pitch from 7 years of orchestral training.

Its scary, he tunes his bass every couple of minutes because he freaks out when its the least bit out

AlmightyPancake

11-29-2005, 04:18 PM

Relative pitch is what you need. People with perfect/absolute pitch can go crazy if something, anything, even a fan whirling is out of tune. I've seen it happen.
This would actually only happen to someone with perfect pitch raised entirely on Western Music.

:amaze:

11-29-2005, 04:38 PM

This would actually only happen to someone with perfect pitch raised entirely on Western Music.

....which most westerners are...

:amaze:

bassmancrv

11-29-2005, 05:54 PM

to tobo: duuuude where did you get that avatar!!!! ( i know were all wondering)

sorry for the completely unrelated post.. but come on... :naughty: :thumb: