I just got a pair of 5B aheads

[desyfermate101]

hey, i just got a pair of aheads 5B and i've heard a lot of people going insane about aheads sucking, but, i love the feel of em, and they are balanced perfectly, do u really think they'll break my cymbals much more than wood sticks? and by the way, DONT REPLY IF UR JUST GONNA SAY "aheads suckass" or something lame like that, im asking this as a serious question to see if they really are as bad as people have said

[Ming-a-Ling]

I used aheads for a little while. During that time 2 of my cymbals broke. I have never broke a cymbal prior to using aheads or since using aheads. They do not get the Ming endorsement.

[GooseFilms.net]

Give em a test and tell us what happens.

[desyfermate101]

whats the ming indorsment?

[The Leper Messiah]

I rather have my drumsticks crack and break than my cymbals. 2 thumbs down for Aheads, and if I had more, they would be down too.

[desyfermate101]

o hahah, srry, didnt notice your screenname

[RichHunt]

No. Don't use them.

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[-TheGlassPrison-]

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[desyfermate101]

hahahahahaha, do u know this from experience or are u just goin along with everyone?

[Tim]

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ha yea pretty much.

hey threadstarter try a rimshot.

[desyfermate101]

o yeah, i heard they didnt work, y not?

[RichHunt]

lolol suckassaheads lolol HAH

[-TheGlassPrison-]

hahahahahaha, do u know this from experience or are u just goin along with everyone?


Experience.
A friend of mine has a HUGE chunk out of his AA cymbal because of aheads.. he broke 3 shafts of aheads, kids crazy...

anyways,
people would follow me, im a leader.

[RichHunt]

o yeah, i heard they didnt work, y not?

Because you need rims to do rim shots and after a few hits you wont have rims anymore.

[Tim]

o yeah, i heard they didnt work, y not?

jsut try it youll see. :D :naughty: :amaze:

[-TheGlassPrison-]

lolol suckassaheads lolol HAH

roflmaobbq!111one1!!1n1 AHAHAHWeHE

lawl

[Tim]

roflmaobbq!111one1!!1n1 AHAHAHWeHE

lawl

ha one.

[desyfermate101]

hahahah, well i like never use rim shots, and i dont hit hard, joking aside, do u think im seriously gonna break a cymbal anyway? or what

[-TheGlassPrison-]

you suck.
yes.
yes.

[desyfermate101]

haha, what? y do i suck haha

[GooseFilms.net]

lot of people on tonight...

supposedly you are more likely to break cymbals. I, for one, am not so sure. I'd actualyl be very interested to have kind of a MX ahead experiment. I say go for it and let us know how it goes.

[Ming-a-Ling]

Yeah, I definetly advise against them. I mean, it's up to you, if you want to take that chance go ahead, just don't be surprised if you break your cymbals when/if it happens.

My aheads didn't even last very long. I didn't notice the "no rimshot" thing. Not only did I break 2 cymbals (one of which I was very fond of), I also broke a pair of $30 drum sticks (or whatever they cost).

[desyfermate101]

thats mainly what im doing, just basically givin em a test drive for a bit, cause i have the money to replace a cymbal or two, so thx for the like only serious answer out of this whole thread

[Seafroggys]

rimshots on your friend

they provide an alternate sound out of your snare, so its like having two drums?

i use shots alot during solos and fills.

[desyfermate101]

yea its just not really my style of playing to use em, im into more technical stuff, that doesnt require hard hitting, but i'll start trying to throw some rim shots into my playing, but ofcourse i'll have to use a pair of my wood sticks, haha

[RichHunt]

hahahah, well i like never use rim shots, and i dont hit hard, joking aside, do u think im seriously gonna break a cymbal anyway? or what

Stop trying to make it acceptable to use them, we already so no. I'd tell you to go burn them but that's probably not even possible. Stupid aheads.

[RichHunt]

yea its just not really my style of playing to use em, im into more technical stuff, that doesnt require hard hitting, but i'll start trying to throw some rim shots into my playing, but ofcourse i'll have to use a pair of my wood sticks, haha


This is the funniest post I have ever seen. You're "into more technical stuff" but you don't use rimshots? Hahaha.

OH THE TECHNICALITIES!

[The Leper Messiah]

hahahah, well i like never use rim shots, and i dont hit hard, joking aside, do u think im seriously gonna break a cymbal anyway? or what

You will seriously break a cymbal.

[derryk]

Yeah, I definetly advise against them. I mean, it's up to you, if you want to take that chance go ahead, just don't be surprised if you break your cymbals when/if it happens.
irony anyone?

DONT REPLY IF UR JUST GONNA SAY "aheads suckass" or something lame like that, im asking this as a serious question to see if they really are as bad as people have said
BUT THEY DO!!!!

[GooseFilms.net]

That's a pun, it's not ironic at all.

[The Leper Messiah]

Irony would be if the threadstarter listened, bought some wood drumsticks, and on the first hit cracked his cymbal. :lol:

[Revenga]

I got the Joey Jordison sig Aheads over a year ago for my birthday. Within the time using them, I've cracked 3 cymbals. I hadn't cracked any before, or prior using Aheads. Two thumbs down for Aheads.

[RichHunt]

When I am having intercourse and I'm about to finish but I want to keep going to pleasure the woman and not be known as the guy who finished in two minutes I think of Aheads.

Instantly flaccid.




*note, I am a virgin and damn proud.

[Talos]

I was gonna get some Lars Ulrich signature Aheads. I didnt in the end because I didnt have enough money. Good or bad thing?

[RichHunt]

It's a great thing that you didn't waste any money on that crap.

[Drum Phil]

Aheads stop vibration yes?

Where does the vibration go? CYMBALS.

Extra vibration is good for cymbals? Our survey says:





NO

[blujelly]

I have used aheads for about 2 months now. They seem alright to play with. But knowing me I'll do a thread in a couple months saying something like "**** aheads broke my cymbals" hehe. Mine are 5a

[dumbassdrummer]

Aheads break cymbals. Rimshots are not possible with Aheads. Aheads do not have the sonic possibilities of wood sticks (try getting more than 3 sounds out of your ride with Aheads - I get at least 15 with wood sticks from mine).

As all of this is FACT - the only reasonable and rational conclusion can be thus:

AHEADS SUCK. PERIOD.

[PdoubleE]

the gloves serve a very good purpose

[The Fiction We Live]

Well that was a waste of 30 some dollars... that sucks.

Let's put it this way:

My local Guitar Center (yes GC) doesn't stock them because they are horrible... that alone should make you burn them.

[The Leper Messiah]

desyfermate101, you might want to check this post out...

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=417880

:thumb:

[Dummer'n'Drummer]

That was a bad buy!

I prefer paying 10$ for sticks than 300$ for new cymbals!

Now the gloves are a good buy...

suckassaheads!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GooseFilms.net]

Aheads stop vibration yes?

Where does the vibration go? CYMBALS.

Extra vibration is good for cymbals? Our survey says:
NO
What are you talking about? If a cymbal makes noise, it's because it's vibrating. If anything makes noise, it's because it's vibrating. Extra vibration? Like the frequency is changing? Not happening. Amplitude changing? Don't hit as hard.

Honestly, people make up stories about aheads off the top of their heads that just make no sense.
What makes sense, is that Force=Mass X Acceleration. The mass of an aluminum-core stick will be greater than that of a wooden stick, hence with a constant acceleration, the force exerted by an aluminum stick is greater than that exerted by a wooden stick.
You and your crazy phantom vibrations

[Panopticon]

the vibrations go to the anti-vibration system inside the stick...not to the cymbals...

[deadwith0utmusic]

Yeah, I definetly advise against them. I mean, it's up to you, if you want to take that chance go ahead, just don't be surprised if you break your cymbals when/if it happens.

My aheads didn't even last very long. I didn't notice the "no rimshot" thing. Not only did I break 2 cymbals (one of which I was very fond of), I also broke a pair of $30 drum sticks (or whatever they cost).

that should be thier slogan

[Futuro]

I snapped my aheads with in 7 days. They suck. I got my money back.

[GooseFilms.net]

^pushit on me

[fatcow2000]

use aheads for practice on practice pads, the weighting on them helps build muscle, besides that, burn them.

[ThugsRook]

we need a thread with pics of stuff broken by ahead sticks, and make it a sticky! :thumb:

[spirit]

I played Aheads for a while. Got them free with my other kit. Gave them up after a while, not because they broke anything, but more because I didn't like the balance, or the fact that the aluminium handles were always cold when I picked the damn things up. Lucky break it seems.

[Futuro]

^pushit on me
Cant wait for December 20th :)

[stevoibanez]

IMO the only thing Aheads are good for is practicing on a pad, which I might just do.

[Futuro]

IMO the only thing Aheads are good for is practicing on a pad, which I might just do. Get some push rods from an old school bus engine. There my work out.

[GooseFilms.net]

Cant wait for December 20th :)
won't be anything you havent seen before, just the schism music video on dvd, i believe. I'm still waiting to splooge all over the live dvd and the new cd.

[desyfermate101]

haahahahahahah, wow that was a fun thread, it amuses me how much people get worked up over Aheads, but yea thx for all the tips, im probably really gonna regret getting these, can u return them?

[Starship]

Because you need rims to do rim shots and after a few hits you wont have rims anymore.
Haha!

No you can't return aheads, who the hell would want them back? It's probably like playing hot potato..

[The Leper Messiah]

haahahahahahah, wow that was a fun thread, it amuses me how much people get worked up over Aheads, but yea thx for all the tips, im probably really gonna regret getting these, can u return them?

If you didn't use them, probably. But if you used them and they look worn, your screwed. You could always keep it as a hammer if you wanted to. :lol:

[stevoibanez]

No you can't return aheads, who the hell would want them back? It's probably like playing hot potato..
lol man

[The Ska Man]

hahahah, *well i like never use rim shots, and i dont hit hard, joking aside, **do u think im seriously gonna break a cymbal anyway? or what

*Why not? What about rim-clicks?

**Yes, very much so.

[Seafroggys]

IMO the only thing Aheads are good for is practicing on a pad, which I might just do.

marching sticks are so much better....get some VF MS2s....

[Maggot Dream]

thats mainly what im doing, just basically givin em a test drive for a bit, cause i have the money to replace a cymbal or two, so thx for the like only serious answer out of this whole thread
So you'd rather test out sticks and risk wasting your money on replacement cymbals than listen to everyone's advice and get sticks that don't totally blow? You could be using that money for new things to expand your setup, instead of using it on replacement cymbals and overpriced sticks.

Your logic escapes me.

[crolfe1]

I have to say back in my youthful days of drumming, I used aheads and cracked/bent a crash and HH's. Then I actually broke the ahead stick. Snapped it right in two.

They feel okay, I'll give them that, but not much else.

[Drummer Like Skinny]

I use Aheads right now...and currently I don't see anything wrong with them. I'm playing better using these vs. the wooden sticks. As of now, I have no black marks on my cymbals or anyother hardware, no dents cracks or other misc. accused negativities of using aheads.

If one of my cymbals DO crack, I use zildjians, and from what i hear - they are very good about replacing cracked cymbals. Also, if Aheads are so bad, then why to pro drumers (ex. tommy lee, matt mcdonough, joey jordison) use them?

So if i break a cymbal...i will stop using aheads...and have zildjian replace my cracked one.

[poppinfresh]

because drummers like that dont have to worry about paying for new cymbals every two weeks.

[ytsedrummer]

I use Ahead and have not broken a cymbal yet. I love these sticks and they are way better for your cymbals than wood sticks. With the woodsticks, the woodfibres get stuck in your cymbals aad get embedded in them over time. These fibres are IMPOSSIBLE to get out of your cymbals and will cause damage to your cymbals. They will break cymbals only if you are using thin cymbals. I use medium cymbals so my cymbals are not gonna break, either that or they won't break for a long time!

[mysticalyeti]

Ahaha, you believed the wood fibre ****.

[Maggot Dream]

Also, if Aheads are so bad, then why to pro drumers (ex. tommy lee, matt mcdonough, joey jordison) use them?

Because they get paids large amounts to endorse them. Besides, I think you might try finding better examples than Tommy Lee or Joey Jordison.

Saying that they're good because some popular drummers use them is like saying, "I'm going to buy these drums, no matter what their quality, because ____ uses them."

[Kosmos Tree]

These fibres are IMPOSSIBLE to get out of your cymbals and will cause damage to your cymbals.

So do cracks ;)

[Motleyguy]

So you'd rather test out sticks and risk wasting your money on replacement cymbals than listen to everyone's advice and get sticks that don't totally blow? You could be using that money for new things to expand your setup, instead of using it on replacement cymbals and overpriced sticks.

Your logic escapes me.

logic? logic would imply that what he is saying makes some sort of sense, or is something a reasonable person would do. Spending "extra money" on replacement cymbals just because you want to test out ****ty ahead sticks just makes you a dumb****.

[The Ska Man]

I use Ahead and have not broken a cymbal yet. I love these sticks and they are way better for your cymbals than wood sticks. With the woodsticks, the woodfibres get stuck in your cymbals aad get embedded in them over time. These fibres are IMPOSSIBLE to get out of your cymbals and will cause damage to your cymbals. They will break cymbals only if you are using thin cymbals. I use medium cymbals so my cymbals are not gonna break, either that or they won't break for a long time!


Oh no! All those wood fibers in those vinatge cymbals! They must sound horrible.

:lol:

People like you make me laugh. Believing everything and anything you hear in an ad.

[rockindrummer]

to quoted section^^: bwaahahaha that is the most idiotic thing ever. You are so ingnorant it isn't even funny

[kyle_ashbourne]

I use Ahead and have not broken a cymbal yet. I love these sticks and they are way better for your cymbals than wood sticks. With the woodsticks, the woodfibres get stuck in your cymbals aad get embedded in them over time. These fibres are IMPOSSIBLE to get out of your cymbals and will cause damage to your cymbals. They will break cymbals only if you are using thin cymbals. I use medium cymbals so my cymbals are not gonna break, either that or they won't break for a long time!


U said cymbals WAY too much:p

[ThatOneDrummer]

haha, what? y do i suck haha
^^^why are you laughing? he just said you suck thats not funny and its probably true if youre dumb enough to buy a pair of aheads...

[ThatOneDrummer]

Because they get paids large amounts to endorse them. Besides, I think you might try finding better examples than Tommy Lee or Joey Jordison.

Saying that they're good because some popular drummers use them is like saying, "I'm going to buy these drums, no matter what their quality, because ____ uses them."
^^^owned:smoke:

[Seafroggys]

i can't believe people actually believe that food fibers can get stuck in a piece of metal.....

wow I just noticed my typo, but i'm keeping it...

[Drummer Like Skinny]

Because they get paids large amounts to endorse them. Besides, I think you might try finding better examples than Tommy Lee or Joey Jordison.

Saying that they're good because some popular drummers use them is like saying, "I'm going to buy these drums, no matter what their quality, because ____ uses them."


at no place in time did i say that I bought them for that reason. And I would have gotten better examples, had I known all the other artists who use them.

[fatcow2000]

at no place in time did i say that I bought them for that reason. And I would have gotten better examples, had I known all the other artists who use them.

the only other example you have is Lars Ulrich, and thats not saying much either.

i let a friend use my z custom crashes(prone to breakages) and a sabian b8pro(had for 3 years up till then), and he used the tommy lee signature aheads, two days later, im cleaning my cymbals and i see 2 huge cracks (2") on each of the z customs and a week later the b8 was cracking at the edge(top hi hat).

the people who endorse those sticks, 1) have no talent(according to me and a lot of people on this site, i speak for part of the masses), 2) have enough money/fans to pay for it, 3) they dont even need to pay, they are fully endorsed by the companies, 4) they like the fact that theyre are colored black, 5) they are probably payed to play with the sticks so that dumbasses like "Bobby" and "Mandy" will go out and buy them.

thats about it.

[-TheGlassPrison-]

You know guys, theres always the Def Leppard signature stick..




Yeah, i said stick...

figure it out..

;)

[Maggot Dream]

You know guys, theres always the Def Leppard signature stick..




Yeah, i said stick...

figure it out..

;)
Haha, excellent.

[STRETCH]

i like aheads, been playin with 'em for about 4 months now, no cymbals breakage yet!YaY for me!

note: my crashes are a 16' avedvis zildjian medium-thin crash, & a 17' sabian AAX stage crash
and the vibrations, theres none of that

total facial!

[dbl_bass_drmr_Jirvy]

Ah... like I said in that other ahead thread....

Aheads dont exist here...

:D ... so basically I dont know how to react to this...

[Motleyguy]

i like aheads, been playin with 'em for about 4 months now, no cymbals breakage yet!YaY for me!

note: my crashes are a 16' avedvis zildjian medium-thin crash, & a 17' sabian AAX stage crash
and the vibrations, theres none of that

total facial!

wow, so when you're expensive cymbals break. I'm gonna make fun of you, relentlessly...so make sure you let us know when they break eh.

OH TOTAL FACIAL!!! (wtf? that wasn't even funny in dodgeball when ben stiller said it)

[rockindrummer]

5) they are probably payed to play with the sticks so that dumbasses like you will go out and buy them.


fix'd.

[RichHunt]

fix'd.
:D hahaha great.

[Drum Phil]

You know guys, theres always the Def Leppard signature stick..




Yeah, i said stick...

figure it out..

;)

Cmon dude, i made that joke ages ago

[Damo]

If one of my cymbals DO crack, I use zildjians, and from what i hear - they are very good about replacing cracked cymbals.
Tip: dont tell them what sticks youre using...

So if i break a cymbal...i will stop using aheads...and have zildjian replace my cracked one.

Good Luck with that!

[VTDS_xx]

You will break cymbals.

Which is much worse than slowly embedding wood fibers into them and causing them to lose the tonality over a period of time, thus not being able to be saving money whilst you embed said fibers and buy a new cymbal. Only to be again slowly defeated by the deadly wood fibers caused by wooden drum sticks.

*Shrug* Go AHEAD!

[MeaninglessPhoto]

I used aheads for 2 months. Then 34 of my cymbals broke and they took some peices off of my heads.

[MeaninglessPhoto]

oops I ment 3 not 34 hehe

[VTDS_xx]

the people who endorse those sticks
1) have no talent(according to me and a lot of people on this site, i speak for part of the masses)
Yes. These professional drummers that are endorsed by some of the top companies in the world and have more money in their wallet than you have ever seen have no talent. You speak for the idiotic part of the masses, if any at all.
2) have enough money/fans to pay for it
^Read
3) they dont even need to pay, they are fully endorsed by the companies
Do I sense a pattern
4) they like the fact that theyre are colored black
Lawl.
5) they are probably payed to play with the sticks so that dumbasses like "Bobby" and "Mandy" will go out and buy them.
This is true. They are paid to play them because they get free product and the company gets free advertisement.
Kid A: OMG! Did joo see dat hawt Slipknot videoz on da MTV last nyte?
Kid B: Hellz yeah dawg. I'm goin to get doze stickz dat Joey was uzin on his kick azz drumset to play on my Pulse Dubble Bass and Zildjian Titaniumz. Dood.
AHEAD Dealer: Here you go. We'll see you in a few weeks. Trust me ;)


I am an idiot and succeed in showing that to everyone by the redudancy and lame opinions in my posts.


Fixed.

:rolleyes:

Sorry for the double post. :)

[ThugsRook]

Ah... like I said in that other ahead thread....

Aheads dont exist here...

:D ... so basically I dont know how to react to this...
just laugh at the morons that use these stupid sticks :lol:


laugh harder at those that defend them http://users.adelphia.net/~d2rook/pics/rotflmgdao.gif

hang the so called "professionals" that endorse this cr@p http://users.adelphia.net/~d2rook/pics/hang.gif

[MeaninglessPhoto]

hahaha VTDS_xx that bottom part cracked me up. :lol:

[Wizz]

Experience.
A friend of mine has a HUGE chunk out of his AA cymbal because of aheads.. he broke 3 shafts of aheads, kids crazy...

anyways,
people would follow me, im a leader.

No you big dummy IM the leader

Anyways , i'm not gonna say that Aheads suck cuz i never tried them. I think i'm gonna buy a pair though , i'm breaking like a pair of sticks every week , it's crazy and i dunno why but true experience i know that Vic Firth A5 arn't the best sticks around in their thickness. But if you like them and you hate you cymbals then i would say your a very smart kid =)

EDIT : Oh and fleetwood mack uses them and he's pretty good no? I know no drummers who use them cept Joey and Fleetwood mack

[VTDS_xx]

^Yes, but you see when you're endorsed it doesn't matter what type of technique or harshness you play. You can just get them replaced. If you're breaking sticks so often, change your cymbal technique so you're not chewing your sticks and the edges of your cymbals up.

[Wizz]

na man my cymbal techinque is fine , they don't even look like they have been used my sticks , and then suddenly BOOM they splat , dunno why maybe i bought a bad box , i'm gonna ask my shop about this

[VTDS_xx]

^Yeah that happens to me every once in a while. Nice avatar btw.

[kev_trb1006]

i've used AHEAD sticks for years now, never so much as damaged a cymbal, and i prefer them to wood

[Wizz]

^Yeah that happens to me every once in a while. Nice avatar btw.

I stole it from a picture that was posted on mx :p

[Kronos]

It seems to me that only one thing could make Ahead sticks break cymbals more than wood, and that's weight (mass)

If Aheads have a thin rubber coating around the shaft the impact shock will be less than wood (unless someone here's going to tell me that rubber is harder than wood...)

So, how much more than wood do they weigh? Has anyone weighed one, and a comparable wooden stick, say 5b?

Then the maths is easy, as force = mass x velocity squared. That should give a scientific idea as to their destructive capability.

Anyone?

[The Ska Man]

Mass isn't the same as weight, Mathman:thumb:.

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

I used a pair on a pad once. never again. way too heavy n just horrible

[Kronos]

Mass isn't the same as weight, Mathman:thumb:.
In this context I think you'll find it is, son. :thumb:

[-TheGlassPrison-]

Cmon dude, i made that joke ages ago



Yeah,
But im waayyyy cooler.

[mdrumman]

OK aheads...ok concept, but i didnt like them. I had 5A's for awhile and i like them at first, until i noticed that i kept dropping them (fast player) then my crash/ride is waved now b/c i used them (i dont play hard like u said). but man seriously just b/c the "popular kids do it doesnt mean u have to as well" the kids being Lars, Joey, and the other crackers that use them (i am white flame me if u want)

[fatcow2000]

Fixed.

:rolleyes:

Sorry for the double post. :)


maybe i missed something, but we're on the same side, no?

haha dude, w.e., its just the **** gets asked so often.

[fatcow2000]

OK aheads...ok concept, but i didnt like them. I had 5A's for awhile and i like them at first, until i noticed that i kept dropping them (fast player) then my crash/ride is waved now b/c i used them (i dont play hard like u said). but man seriously just b/c the "popular kids do it doesnt mean u have to as well" the kids being Lars, Joey, and the other crackers that use them (i am white flame me if u want)

:evil: *sends the fires of hell to you*:evil:

jk.

[FockerTheLopper]

Uh oh, as soon as I saw it aheads I though "Oh no, flame fest" its 3 pages long, time to see what every has to say about aheads..

[Maggot Dream]

No you big dummy IM the leader

Anyways , i'm not gonna say that Aheads suck cuz i never tried them. I think i'm gonna buy a pair though , i'm breaking like a pair of sticks every week , it's crazy and i dunno why but true experience i know that Vic Firth A5 arn't the best sticks around in their thickness. But if you like them and you hate you cymbals then i would say your a very smart kid =)

EDIT : Oh and fleetwood mack uses them and he's pretty good no? I know no drummers who use them cept Joey and Fleetwood mack
It's Mick Fleetwood.

I can't see why you'd buy Aheads that almost everyone here says suck because you're breaking sticks. Just try different types of sticks until you find something that works well for you.

[The Ska Man]

In this context I think you'll find it is, son. :thumb:


Mass (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=mass)

Weight (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=weight)


Big difference.

[FockerTheLopper]

Okay, I've had enough after 2 pages of reading the same crap I decided to give some helpful advice. Go buy wood sticks. 5bs will be good for you.

metal on metal = bad
ahead = metal
cymbals = big METAL cirles

Now by applying the third quantum theory of the premolocular electrosphere and applying that formula you can tell that aheads suckass

[FockerTheLopper]

No you big dummy IM the leader

Anyways , i'm not gonna say that Aheads suck cuz i never tried them. I think i'm gonna buy a pair though , i'm breaking like a pair of sticks every week , it's crazy and i dunno why but true experience i know that Vic Firth A5 arn't the best sticks around in their thickness. But if you like them and you hate you cymbals then i would say your a very smart kid =)

EDIT : Oh and fleetwood mack uses them and he's pretty good no? I know no drummers who use them cept Joey and Fleetwood mack
You either have bad form or you hit too hard but I doubt you can hit so hard to break a pair of sticks a week without dislocating your rotary cuff

[TerranCmdr]

The mass of an object is not dependent on gravity and therefore is different from but proportional to its weight.

Yeah that's what I thought. I took Physics last year and although I can hardly remember any of it I do seem to recall that weight is the amount of gravity acting on an object, while mass is how much space an object takes up.

[Loyton]

ouch! how did this thread get so huge? definatly didnt read any of the posts..... but id assume everyone is talking about how you should never use any other stick? because they are right, joey and lars wouldnt use em if they whent the best. Stick with aheads, i know i will for the rest o my life!

[Motleyguy]

I truly hope that was sarcasm.

[RichHunt]

In this context I think you'll find it is, son. :thumb:


You can't just use context as an excuse to change definitions of words.


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Also, am I only one that think they look incredibly gay? Plus, they're not wood! I don't care if they didn't break and they didn't break cymbals, wood just sounds better. I love my wood tips and my natural wood finish of my wood sticks. Gives me wood.

[VTDS_xx]

maybe i missed something, but we're on the same side, no?

haha dude, w.e., its just the **** gets asked so often.

Yes. We're on the same side. You're post just compelled me to make sense of what you were trying to say.

[oliv_da_skinmasher]

Also, am I only one that think they look incredibly gay? Plus, they're not wood! I don't care if they didn't break and they didn't break cymbals, wood just sounds better. I love my wood tips and my natural wood finish of my wood sticks. Gives me wood.

nah i think they look gay also

wood all the way

[playwithfire]

117 posts for nothing. What a useless thread. The question was answered like 1 reply in... why did he persist so long?

Ahead's slogan should be "Aheads. Good enough for Lars, Tommy and Joey. Good enough for you, dumb f*ck." Maybe then people would realize what a joke they are.

[spirit]

Yeah that's what I thought. I took Physics last year and although I can hardly remember any of it I do seem to recall that weight is the amount of gravity acting on an object, while mass is how much space an object takes up.

Mass is what people tend to refer to as "weight" i.e. you can get a bag of sugar that has a mass of 1kg. It does not weigh 1kg.

Weight is the force that acts upon a body due to gravitational force. That same bag of sugar, of mass 1kg will have a weight of 9.81 N*, as given by the formula W=mg, when W is the weight, m the mass of the object in question, and g the gravitational pull, which in the case of the Earth is 9.81 N/kg. The Moon's g is approximately 1.6 N/kg.

*Newtons, unit of Force


You have the right idea TerranCmdr, although the amount of space taken up by an object is the volume ;).

[aznriceball]

hey, i just got a pair of aheads 5B and i've heard a lot of people going insane about aheads sucking, but, i love the feel of em, and they are balanced perfectly, do u really think they'll break my cymbals much more than wood sticks? and by the way, DONT REPLY IF UR JUST GONNA SAY "aheads suckass" or something lame like that, im asking this as a serious question to see if they really are as bad as people have said

u dont tell me what to say

aheads suckass

[RichHunt]

Mass is what people tend to refer to as "weight" i.e. you can get a bag of sugar that has a mass of 1kg. It does not weigh 1kg.

Weight is the force that acts upon a body due to gravitational force. That same bag of sugar, of mass 1kg will have a weight of 9.81 N*, as given by the formula W=mg, when W is the weight, m the mass of the object in question, and g the gravitational pull, which in the case of the Earth is 9.81 N/kg. The Moon's g is approximately 1.6 N/kg.

*Newtons, unit of Force


You have the right idea TerranCmdr, although the amount of space taken up by an object is the volume ;).


What I don't understand is, when we go to measure somethings weight, we use kg's and pounds to measure it. For instance, when we put something on a scale, we are measuring its pull towards the centre of the earth, because if you put something on a scale in space, it wouldn't have a pull towards the bottom of the scale device (not a consistant one at least).

Do you know what I mean? Should we be measuring everything in N's. Because what we measure is technically weight, at least, I think so.

[desyfermate101]

Holy **** dude, how the hell did this thread get so big, hahah, i thought this thread was done with awhileeee ago, by the way, since when did some of these people become a genius on mass, and newtons all of a sudden

[FockerTheLopper]

Hi everyone I'm Jeff Foxworthy and I just picked up drumming...
You can tell your a drummer in MX if you see threads about going as fast as Lars on the hats.

You know your a drummer on MX when threads about aheads turn into physics threads



Thats all I have, man I wish I was Jeff Foxworthy but I'm not a hick :upset:





On a seperate note, we should make a sticky "Don't use aheads" thread that will explain the bad things about them in stupid terms or in like physics ways

[Kronos]

All I was trying to do was work out why Aheads should be worse on your cymbals than wood.

I mixed up weight and mass cos it's 20 years since I did physics, and as Rich Hunt says, we all mix these two things up in daily life.

We should still find out what a wooden stick weighs and compare it to an Ahead - it would be interesting

[Drum Phil]

What I don't understand is, when we go to measure somethings weight, we use kg's and pounds to measure it. For instance, when we put something on a scale, we are measuring its pull towards the centre of the earth, because if you put something on a scale in space, it wouldn't have a pull towards the bottom of the scale device (not a consistant one at least).

Do you know what I mean? Should we be measuring everything in N's. Because what we measure is technically weight, at least, I think so.

Yes rich, technically we should weigh ourselves in newtons. Some scales actually do that for some reason. But then what do i know, i never bothered to try and pass Advanced physics

[ThatOneDrummer]

wow...we started out flaming aheads and now ur talking about science...what has the world come to?:lol:

[Seafroggys]

i barely passed advnaced physics in high school....got me a D minus.

[Double Bass Jim]

Well...

Always remember your much smarter and better then the R&D team at easton. :lol: