Same Ol' Thread (Dredg)

[Moses]

I think it's about time someone set one of these off so I'll just do it myself. If anyone wants either El Cielo or Catch Without Arms or the Orph E.P. I can mail it to them.

Dredg is:

Gavin Hayes (vocals/weird crap like slide guitar, keyboards, and many ethnic instruments),
Mark Engles (guitar),
Drew Roulette (bass)
Dino Campanella (drums, piano (stfu Kage)),

Dredg, from Los Gatos California started out as a progressive nu-metal type band in highschool in the early 1990's. They showed their maturity and artistic side even then at their young age. Dredg's 1997 self released Orph E.P. with three tracks and showed much promise in the band's talent for creating passionate and aggressive music. In 2001 Dredg re-released Leitmotif on Interscope Records with much ambition. The ground breaking and critically acclaimed El Cielo came one year later and drew in a huge cult following to the band. This year Dredg came out with a more straight-forward release in Catch Without Arms, with Deftones producer Terry Date.

"Let the demons have their place, if so it's angels you'll create"- Ode to the Sun


Please keep this thread going.:thumb:

Here's Zep's more in depth thread.

This (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=383276) made it abundantly clear how badly I needed to compile this thread entirely right this second. I wanted to make a thread really worthy of this band, but I got busy and was putting it off, but here goes...

Band Line-up:

Gavin Hayes (vocals, guitar)
Mark Engles (guitar)
Drew Roulette (bass)
Dino Campanella (drums)

Discography:

1996 Conscious EP
1997 Orph EP (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=1071)
2001 Leitmotif (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=515)
2002 El Cielo (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=2517)
2002 Extended Play For The Eastern Hemisphere (EP)
2005 Catch Without Arms (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=2744)

Dredg hails from Los Gatos, CA. Sometime around 1993 the band that is now Dredg began as a metal cover band by the name of Bi-standard. It featured Dredg's current vocalist, Gavin Hayes, as a guitar player only along with the rest of what is now Dredg and a different (and unimportant :p) vocalist. Shortly after that band's inception, the original singer quit, and thus Dredg was born in its modern incarnation.

Gavin filled in on vocals and Dredg began to start playing more of a rap/metal style and became local favorites in their hometown of Los Gatos. In 1996 they started getting more serious about their music and released the Conscious EP. The early effort was well received in and around the greater San Jose area and Dredg began to play more shows and started to garner a wider audience and larger fan base.

They began to expand their sound more on their 1997 EP, Orph, and started to drop the earlier rap/metal influences that had up to that point characterized most of their work. They even got the opportunity to open for one of their influences, Far, at the Cactus Club in 1998. They were gaining lots of local popularity and finally seemed ready to work on their first full length.

That full length release would evolve into the concept album entitled Leitmotif ,which told the story of a man trying to cure himself of a moral disease and traveling through different cultures and continents to become more of a pure soul. The album was released independently in 1999 and later re-released by Interscope in 2001.

Around this time Dredg got one of their bigger breaks of their career by opening for their friends Alien Ant Farm on a full US tour. Alien Ant Farm liked them so much that they took them on a world tour later in 2002, to which the band owes a develpment of a small but loyal worldwide fanbase.

Their next release, El Cielo, solidified and expanded their fanbase. Recorded at George Lucas' Skywalker Ranch Studios, Dredg employed several different producers to give different songs a different feel, yet somehow this album is totally cohesive and flowing. Each song tying into the next as if the whole CD were one track.

The album was a magnet for praise by fans and critics alike, and is still held by many to be the crowning achievement of the band. The most underground listeners were impressed with the musicianship of a band on such a mainstream label, and the mainstream was slowly gaining an appreciation for the band.

The album is their second full length, and also their second concept album. This one was about the dream state, and sleep paralysis, and like Leitmotif, had suitably accompanying artwork in the CD booklet. This solidified one of the most unique aspects of the band, that being the incorporation of all sorts of art into each musical art piece. Photography, paintings, poems, lyrics, and doodles have all been aspects of Dredg's CD inserts. In addition many websites are scattered over the internet entirely devoted to decrypting the meaning behind everything released by this band.

Their most recent release, Catch Without Arms, has boosted them to nearly (if not entirely) mainstream status, promoted almost to death at record stores everywhere. Despite this status, the band proves mainstream music can be good. In fact, it can be fantastic.

Though poppier than any of their releases thus far, and clearly intended for radio play, the band sacrifices no musicianship to manage that listenability, and only supresses a little but more of the self-indulgence found on their previous releases.

The band is currently on tour as headliners, and following that are a supporting band on a tour with Coheed and Cambria, The Blood Brothers, and meWithoutYou. This will be an awesome show, second time this year I'm seeing them too :D.

[Kage]

Excellent! Dredg is my favorite band. I'm glad you took the initiative to make this thread; hopefully we can keep it going.

Nice choice of quote in your post. El Cielo is my favorite album...the dreamy concept and atmosphere of that album is perfect. The guitarist's style on that album opened my eyes to new ways of playing. Leitmotif is just as good, only slightly less intriguing which makes it my second favorite from them. Great energy on that one, though.

[Txus]

Great man, finally a good thread about dredg....i love this band so much IMO El Cielo is their best album closely followed by CWA, i never got into Leitmotif that much but don't get me wrong it's a good album but a littel bit odd...i dont know..i can't get into it that much...well my favorite dredg song at the moment is Zebra Skin.

[Kingofdudes]

I have been digging El Cielo a lot lately. I have listened to it every night for the past 2 months, and I listen to it in programming class everyday. Saying that, im gonna go to sleep and listen to El Cielo.


By the way, can anyone upload the Dredg DVD? I dont have a Best Buy close to me.

[Moses]

I love the booklet in El Cielo. CWA and El Cielo are two completely different albums in the type of listening they are intended for. CWA is definately the break into the mainstream for them and even though it didn't beat out El Cielo in my book I don't think it was intended to. CWA still has that dreamy aspect to it along with more straight-foward, Coldplay-like approach.

I was also at Best Buy today and I couldn't find that DVD. :upset:

[Jacaranda]

I've been listening the the Thread title song alot, I've decided its probably my favorite Dredg form El Cielo. Beautiful song.

[FlyingPaul_83]

hmm, they sound pretty interesting. Any recommendations?

[Kage]

I love the booklet in El Cielo. CWA and El Cielo are two completely different albums in the type of listening they are intended for. CWA is definately the break into the mainstream for them and even though it didn't beat out El Cielo in my book I don't think it was intended to. CWA still has that dreamy aspect to it.
I agree..each Dredg album is pretty much equally as good, just in different ways and with different intentions of listening. But El Cielo is just a classic to me. It may never be beat by any other album for me.

I'd upload the DVD, but this computer has no way to rip DVDs, or do any conversions, nor do I have the space for such a task. =\

Don't forget to credit Dino with piano in the first post, either. Has anyone tried out the alternate tracklists by combining CWoA with Waterborne? I plan on making a disc out of it, I haven't gotten around to it, yet, though.

[Moses]

El Cielo as a whole album is really good. The song that got me into them was Of The Room. Has anyone seen the video for Of the Room?

Okay, I gave Dino credit for piano.

[Kage]

I really dislike the video for Of the Room, but I love the video for Same Ol' Road. That's a great video to go with an amazing song. It's the song that got me really into them. I had heard the Coquette demos before CWoA came out, and I dug it. Then I saw them live supporting Deftones and was further intrigued. Then I heard them break out into the first chorus of Same Ol' Road and bought El Cielo immediately.

[Moses]

I really liked the video for Of the Room, what's wrong with it? Pretty emotional and artistic.

Too bad I missed out on the headlining show in my city.

[Kage]

The one with the penguin? I don't see what was emotional about it.

[Moses]

The retarded girl lost her penguin and the evil asian man froze it.......

I thought it was sad.

NP: Whoa Is Me, Dredg, El Cielo

The outro to this song is godly.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Hopefully I'll be getting El Cielo for Christmas. It's the only thing I've not heard from Dredg.

I love the Promo DVD that I picked up for a cent. I'd never seen Dredg performing before watching that, so it was quite the expirience, heh. I really like how Dino pulls of playing the piano and drumming at the same time in the title track from CWA. Quite innovative.

[Kage]

Yeah, it's great. I've seen them live twice, and both times were spectacular. The DVD was cool, but the mixing was off.

:eek: @ Jake for not having heard El Cielo.

Moses: I don't remember anything about a retarded girl or Asian man. I'm going to watch it again.

[Moses]

I was about to suggest mailing the album to you Jake, but I remembered you have crappy internetzorz.

So how's this to mark my return to MX?

[3074326]

Hey! Finally a R&M thread I feel the need to post in! :p

I love Dredg. If I find myself getting tired of a band, I'll pop in Dredg and be set for months again. If I want a change, I'll pop in Leitmotif and here a different style of Dredg. They've done so many different things since Leitmotif, so it's hard to get tired of them.

I saw them live about a month ago, and I've never had goosebumps that long in my life. That was probably the first time in months that I was sincerely happy about something. I'm not depressed or anything, just not much happens to be that happy about.

Good call on the thread. :)

[Kage]

I was about to suggest mailing the album to you Jake, but I remembered you have crappy internetzorz.

So how's this to mark my return to MX?
You came back in style. :cool:

I watched Of the Room again, and I liked it a lot better the second time around. Some of the imagery in there is amazing! I watched Same Ol' Road again, too, and I still love that video.

[Moses]

See, you should know that Dredg doesn't mess up....

I've just been really busy with piano mostly. I won a 10,500 dollar scholarship to a private college this weekend so a little weight is off my shoulders.

[Kage]

:lol: Amen to that. I'm listening to El Cielo now. Nothing can beat the feeling I get when I listen to this album. Everything is perfect. His voice moves me more than any other singer I've heard. The guitar riff leading into the final chorus of El Cielo is one of most perfect riffs ever written.

[Moses]

Dino's a really good drummer. Fact. He was even really good on Orph.

[3074326]

I was amazed when I saw him live.

He dropped one of his sticks and finished half of The Canyon Behind Her without a stick. Didn't miss anything, either. Haha

[Kage]

What was their setlist like? Did you see them with C+C?

The second time I saw them live was one of the best experiences of my life.

[3074326]

Yeah, that was the tour Coheed and Cambria headlined.

I'll have to try to remember.. they didn't pay anything from Leitmotif, I'm sure of that. I think it went something like this:

Ode to the Sun
Bug Eyes
Same Ol' Road
Not that Simple
Jamais Vu
The Canyon Behind Her
The Tanbark is Hot Lava
Improv on the piano with random noises from guitars, basses, and synths.

I'm forgetting a song, but I just kind of let everything blend together at that concert. I was on a high. :)

[Kage]

I know what you mean. I can't remember any time in my life I've ever felt so exilerated as when the bridge part of Yatahaze came up when I saw them. I'm glad I got to see them when they were headlining a tour, because the setlist was significantly longer.

[Knifeboy]

They've been talking about playing Kayasuma when they're playing The Fillmore the 17th, or 18th (Their first headlining gig in a long time), or whenever it is.. I can't wait to hear the recording of that

[Kage]

That would be intersting, though I'd prefer they play Juggernaut or perhaps Is Not Everything, if they're going to dig back into their EP days. Are they embarking on a headlining tour? If so, I really hope I can see them.

[Eyepatched]

Getting some of there stuff relativly soon, they sound off the hinges from what people have told me and what i have read.

[Kurtz]

I've been getting into them lately, but I keep on forgetting to buy stuff from them. I think I'll get El Cielo whenever I go to the store again.

[Kage]

I've been getting into them lately, but I keep on forgetting to buy stuff from them. I think I'll get El Cielo whenever I go to the store again.
Good choice.

Dino Campanella (drums, piano (stfu Kage))
:p

[Knifeboy]

That would be intersting, though I'd prefer they play Juggernaut or perhaps Is Not Everything, if they're going to dig back into their EP days. Are they embarking on a headlining tour? If so, I really hope I can see them.

They're starting a headline tour first thing next year

[Moses]

Post niggaz!!

They headlined in my city.

Why is Sorry But It's Over so awesome?

[Kage]

They're starting a headline tour first thing next year
Yay!


They headlined in my city.
When? I saw them on a headlining tour a few months back. It's not like they've never done it before. :p

As for Sorry But It's Over...that song is downright hypnotic to me.

[Permanent Solution]

I've seen them three times, and every time it got better.

My band is covering the (thread) title song as well in our performace Sunday, should be awesome.

Here's a more in-depth write-up for any interested parties. (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=383358)

[Mute Print]

Dredg is great. I've seen them twice live. The first time I didn't like them much, but they were awesome the second time around.

[Moses]

Yay!



When? I saw them on a headlining tour a few months back. It's not like they've never done it before. :p

As for Sorry But It's Over...that song is downright hypnotic to me.
I can't remember exactly but it was the last one they were on. I still didn't get to see them.:upset:

I've seen them three times, and every time it got better.

My band is covering the (thread) title song as well in our performace Sunday, should be awesome.

Here's a more in-depth write-up for any interested parties. (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=383358)

I quoted your thread in the first page of this one.

[Kage]

I can't remember exactly but it was the last one they were on. I still didn't get to see them.:upset:
Make it your goal to see them on their tour coming up.

Aren't they going on that stupid Taste of Chaos tour that Deftones are also wasting their time on? I hope they go on a headlining before that crap.

[Permanent Solution]

I quoted your thread in the first page of this one.
Sweet :D

[Moses]

Make it your goal to see them on their tour coming up.

Aren't they going on that stupid Taste of Chaos tour that Deftones are also wasting their time on? I hope they go on a headlining before that crap.
I didn't know they were on that tour? I thought it was like The Used and stuff. The Used has a nice rhythm section but the singer annoys me to peices. :angry:

I definately will see them on the next tour. Hopefully they play some Is Not Everything. That would be awesome to hear live, I think.

[Killtacular]

Why is Sorry But It's Over so awesome?
Because you touch yourself at night.

All I got is El Cielo. I want me some Leitmotif.

[Turkish]

I've only listenened to El Cielo and Catch Without Arms...El Cielo is awesome, but so is CWA.

[Mr. Ron]

I love Dredge. I have to get my hands on their latest album.

[Moses]

Because you touch yourself at night.

I touch your mother too.

[Killtacular]

I love Dredge. I have to get my hands on their latest album.
No E!!!
Dredg. No E. Well, except for that one in the middle. No second E. That's better.
I touch your mother too.
Yeah, when you pay for it.

Ooooooooooh.

[Moses]

You just called your mother a prostitute.

Oh, and I get a preferred customer discount.

[Killtacular]

You just called your mother a prostitute.

Oh, and I get a preferred customer discount.
I know, but I don't care.
Because I kick ***.

Also, five cents isn't much of a discount.

/sets himself up for a low-price-related comeback

[Moses]

Yeah, even though you mentioned it I'll just say it anyway.

That 5 cents is 90%.


Okay so back on topic. Anyone feel like analyzing lyrics?

[Kage]

Okay so back on topic. Anyone feel like analyzing lyrics?
I'm down.

[Moses]

How about the weird booklet in El Cielo where he mentions sleep paralisys or somthing?

[Killtacular]

How about the weird booklet in El Cielo where he mentions sleep paralisys or somthing?
You mean every person who wrote an entry that was contributed to the booklet? Yes, yes you do.

I like it. Fun to read, but some are really difficult to make out. Especially the cursive ones. Oh, how I loathe thee.

[Kage]

Yeah, I couldn't read some of the cursive ones.

Well, I'm no good at starting off these lyrics discussion things. I actually really love the lyrics of Scissor Lock.

[Txus]

I think this is an awesome place to learn the concept behind CWA.

http://www.defyperception.net/dredg/catchwithoutarms.htm

[3074326]

I wrote an essay on Ode to the Sun for my music class.. if any of you are interested I could probably post it.

I think I still have that essay..

[Kage]

I wrote an essay on Ode to the Sun for my music class.. if any of you are interested I could probably post it.

I think I still have that essay..
Yes, yes, yes.

@ Txus: Yes, a great site. It has some great insight into all of Dredg's albums. I recommend looking there to get started in understanding the concepts behind Dredg's albums. Based on the connections they draw there, I can conclude that there is a lot of thought that goes into this stuff from the band.

[3074326]

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3KPOVJTRYR8BF137IGM0RAON9Z

It's a breakdown of the song musically, and then I interpret the lyrics. This song is close to me because I've experienced an accident similar to what I feel the song is describing.

I don't know if that ended up being my final version, but it works for a non-graded situation. :p

[Knifeboy]

Aren't they going on that stupid Taste of Chaos tour that Deftones are also wasting their time on? I hope they go on a headlining before that crap.

They've said they decided against going on the Taste of Chaos tour.. But they might be playing a few dates

[Moses]

http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3KPOVJTRYR8BF137IGM0RAON9Z

It's a breakdown of the song musically, and then I interpret the lyrics. This song is close to me because I've experienced an accident similar to what I feel the song is describing.

I don't know if that ended up being my final version, but it works for a non-graded situation. :p
What happened may I ask?

[3074326]

About four years ago my best friend died in a car accident. He was thrown through the windshield when an oncoming vehicle hit his side of the car at around 60 MPH, and then was crushed by the car he was in.

That day/year basically sucked.

[Moses]

That's horrible. My family was in a car accident but I wasn't there. No one got hurt thankfully.

Come on Dredg fans!! I thought there were more on MX.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Has anyone heard Dredg's Concious EP? It came out in 1995 and it did not feature Gavin Hayes on vocals. I've not heard much about it, but someone must know, and I figured this would be the place to ask.

[Knifeboy]

I think most have heard the conscious EP, not sure who's on vocals though, it actually might be gavin

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I've heard from more than one source that Gavin isn't on Concious. I'll do some more research though.

[Knifeboy]

I believe they changed their name to dredg as soon as gavin took over the vocal duties.. Before that they were a cover band called.. Bi...something

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

That very well could be what I'm thinking of, then. I do know that there was a different vocalist at one point, but maybe they weren't dredg at that time.

[Kage]

I believe they changed their name to dredg as soon as gavin took over the vocal duties.. Before that they were a cover band called.. Bi...something
Yeah, this is true. I'm pretty sure Gavin is on vocals on Conscious...it sounds like him to me. =\ Who have you heard from that it's not Gavin?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I recall hearing it twice, but I don't remember where. :confused: :shrug: Whatev, can someone YSI Concious, please?

spiralout7@gmail.com if you're feeling so inclined.

[Kage]

I'll see what I can do about the upload.

You heard El Cielo yet, Jake?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I've not, but I put it on my Christmas list already. Of the Room is still the only track I've heard from it.

[Killtacular]

I've not, but I put it on my Christmas list already. Of the Room is still the only track I've heard from it.
My god, man. Just go buy it, NOW!

[Moses]

I've not, but I put it on my Christmas list already. Of the Room is still the only track I've heard from it.
I don't know if I would wanna send it to you though because it might ruin the experience of opening it and what not. Also your connection is slo as a bitch.

[EverytimeIBodom]

Can you send me everything but El Cielo? If you could I would be forever grateful.

jeremy2091 @ hotmail.com :)

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I don't know if I would wanna send it to you though because it might ruin the experience of opening it and what not. Also your connection is slo as a bitch.

Yeah, I wouldn't have been able to download it. Pete uploaded it for me once, and it kept crapping out at 30 megs. :-/ I'll just buy it, but thanks anyways. :)

[Moses]

Can you send me everything but El Cielo? If you could I would be forever grateful.

jeremy2091 @ hotmail.com :)
I can send Orph and CWA if that's what you need.

[Moses]

Come on Dredg fans. I shouldn't have to bump this everyday.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

So, does anyone think that Dino is a badass because he can play piano and drums simultaneously?

I do. :-D I was pretty shocked when I saw him do it. Granted, CWA doesn't have the most tech part, but it's still very cool.

[Moses]

I think Dino is just badass all around. I mean he's got this groove that only jazz and hip-hop players usually have. See: Of the Room.

[3074326]

He's ridiculous. I feel like we've had this conversation before. :p

[Moses]

Yes, we actually have had this discussion. Does anyone know who does most of the songwriting for Dredg? How about lyrics?

[Kage]

On Dino's part in Of The Room, that seriously has some of the coolest-sounding drum fills I've ever heard.

On songwriting, I was pretty certain that each band member basically contributes his instrument's part to each song, and ideas for structure bounce around. Dredg seems like one of those bands that really thrives on the group dynamic. Drew seems to put a lot of the "weird" nuances in there, like the distorted voices on Scissor Lock. Gavin puts in different instruments like trumpets and slide guitar.

[Knifeboy]

Yeah, they're the kind of band where they write their own parts.. Gavin is as far as I know solely responsible for the lyrics (leitmotif is a concept album based on an essay Gavin wrote in high school), althoug the concepts of the albums I guess is something they figure out together

[EverytimeIBodom]

I can send Orph and CWA if that's what you need.
Yes please. :D

[Knifeboy]

Listen to Dredg - Bug Eyes.. That part with piano is dino playing drums and piano at the same time

[3074326]

I thought that was a drum machine?

[Moses]

Yes please. :D
I'm uploading now.

[Blizzink]

Moses, you're from Milwaukee, right? Have you been to the Brown Deer Exclusive at all lately? It and the other Exclusive in the area are listed on Dredg's site as having the promo DVD. I need to pick up another copy of In Absentia for my gf anyway, so I was going to head down that way soon.

I thought that was a drum machine?

In the video for Bug Eyes they highlight how he does both at the same time.

[Moses]

Moses, you're from Milwaukee, right? Have you been to the Brown Deer Exclusive at all lately? It and the other Exclusive in the area are listed on Dredg's site as having the promo DVD. I need to pick up another copy of In Absentia for my gf anyway, so I was going to head down that way soon.
I actually haven't been there. What is the Brown Deer Exclusive anyway? I live on the north side (Norf syde!!... /throws up gang signs). I'll probably have to check it out.

[Kage]

I thought that was a drum machine?
He puts on a drum machine and plays piano in Sang Real, but in Bug Eyes he plays both at the same time. :cool:

[Knifeboy]

I thought that was a drum machine?

Sang Real and Zebra skin (I think, they haven't played it live yet :upset: ) is drum machines.. Everything else isn't

[3074326]

Yup, I'm an idiot.

Nevermind. I need to read the post before posting next time. ;)

[Moses]

Sang Real and Zebra skin (I think, they haven't played it live yet :upset: ) is drum machines.. Everything else isn't
I thought Zebra Skin was real drums.

[Blizzink]

I actually haven't been there. What is the Brown Deer Exclusive anyway? I live on the north side (Norf syde!!... /throws up gang signs). I'll probably have to check it out.

Uh, the Exclusive Company is a very popular CD store in my area (we head over to the West Bend one from here in Sheboygan County). The one in Brown Deer is just down the main road, and then a right near the Guarantee Bank or something like that. It's past all the big stores and such as you go throught the large parking lot.

Here's a list of the stores that are supposed to carry the promo DVD: http://www.dredg.com/main/stores.html

[Moses]

Heh, I live in the urban area of Milwaukee, aka the ghetto. That's probably why I haven't heard of it.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

He puts on a drum machine and plays piano in Sang Real, but in Bug Eyes he plays both at the same time. :cool:

He does the same for Catch Without Arms.

[Knifeboy]

I thought Zebra Skin was real drums.

Hehe, I'm probably wrong then
.. I wish they'd play it live soon, I really want a live recording of it

[Kage]

He does the same for Catch Without Arms.
Oh, really, I didn't know that. I haven't heard that one played live. =\

I'm watching the Viva Overdrive concert right now. These videos rule. It's an amazing performance.

[Blizzink]

I ended up at the Best Buy near the Excluve Co. (because Exclusive was closed), and they had a few copies of the Dredg DVD. I picked up a few for my friends as gifts (because I'm a cheapskate).

The concert is very good, and the addition of the Bug Eyes video makes this worth every penny (just that one I guess).

[3074326]

The Best Buy that I went to didn't have the DVD. I wasn't very happy. I asked a few people.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Oh, really, I didn't know that. I haven't heard that one played live. =\

I'm watching the Viva Overdrive concert right now. These videos rule. It's an amazing performance.

Don't you have the Promo of the Henry Fonda Theater concert? It's on there...:confused:

Chris- I could send it to you. zomg wuts ur adress, yo? :p

[3074326]

Is it possible to put the DVD on the computer? If someone does that I'll just mail Dredg a penny. :p

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I'm sure someone has it ripped on Limewire. I'm doing a search on soulseek right now under the key words of "dredg henry fonda" and I got a few hits.

[Kage]

Don't you have the Promo of the Henry Fonda Theater concert? It's on there...:confused:
Huh...ohhhh. I forgot about that one. I guess I wasn't paying enough attention, but I didn't notice him playing piano.

EDIT: Well, I'm an idiot. I'm watching it now and it's all coming back to me.

[Blizzink]

If you can't find it soon, I can rip it for you sometime this week when I'm not busy.

[Spiritofmosa]

l like dredg, sanzen and triangle are few of my fav songs from elcieo..
hows is Leitmotif compared to elcieo and cwa? how long is the album ?

[Amit]

DREDG \m/

[Spiritofmosa]

and whats up with dredg and penguins

[GenuineImitation]

I have been getting into Dredg lately. I just bought El Cielo and Catch Without Arms the other day. What other cds do they have?

[Knifeboy]

The Best Buy that I went to didn't have the DVD. I wasn't very happy. I asked a few people.

It doesn't necisarely mean that they didn't have the DVD.. Best Buy employees are pretty ignorant from what I've gathered

[3074326]

Yeah, but I got the impression that they were all clueless.. None of the employees working (whom I saw) knew what I was talking about.

[Kage]

Yeah, but I got the impression that they were all clueless.. None of the employees working (whom I saw) knew what I was talking about.
Yeah, that's the way Best Buy employees are. They don't really know anything that's going on. I did once meet a guy there with whom I talked about Isis and some other good bands, but that's it.

[Knifeboy]

Yeah, but I got the impression that they were all clueless.. None of the employees working (whom I saw) knew what I was talking about.

I just gathered from the traversing boards that most of the people who found the DVD, didn't get any help from the employees whatsoever

[3074326]

Haha, well, I don't think they'll let me look for myself.. I'll go back and try again soon.

[Knifeboy]

At some places it was hidden somewhere in the music dvd section hehe..

[GenuineImitation]

I have been getting into Dredg lately. I just bought El Cielo and Catch Without Arms the other day. What other cds do they have?


Can someone answer my question? Please...

[3rdplanet]

Traversing Through The Arctic Cold We Search For The Spirit Of Yuta came on random play earlier, what an absolute ch00n.

Should really listen to Leitmotif more than I do.

[Kage]

GI: In addition to the two you mentioned, they have one other full-length, their debut Leitmotif, as well as two EPs they made in their early days, though you can't buy those two.

3rdPlanet: I agree about Leitmotif. I listened to it today twice through. I love that CD so much.

[GenuineImitation]

GI: In addition to the two you mentioned, they have one other full-length, their debut Leitmotif, as well as two EPs they made in their early days, though you can't buy those two.

3rdPlanet: I agree about Leitmotif. I listened to it today twice through. I love that CD so much.


Thanks Kage.

[Triangle]

and whats up with dredg and penguins
lol, I was thinking the same thing while browsing their site.

Sanzen ftw.

[Moses]

/bump

Because penguins are cute, duh.

(I don't feel right saying cute. I just don't, and I have no idea why.)

[3074326]

I've always been a fan of Penguins, so that's probably why I like Dredg so much. I have a Penguins hat, actually. :p

I keep telling myself that every song they've ever written is written about Penguins.

[Knifeboy]

Penguins are part of why dredg are amazing.... And I hope there's more about penguins on their next album

[Txus]

I'm so dissapointed, i went to Best Buy today and they didn't had the DVD....:upset:

[Kage]

Penguins are part of why dredg are amazing.... And I hope there's more about penguins on their next album
Do you mean aside from their omnipresent metaphor about society?

If so, explain.

[Knifeboy]

There's nothing to explain, I want more about penguins on the album, they should sing about penguins nonstop, as in "penguins penguins, we love penguins" and then put penguins on the cover, and sell more penguin merchandise, and really just replace every single member of the band with penguins and and and

[Moses]

Bump/

Dredg is awesome!

[Knifeboy]

I prefer pie

[Spiritofmosa]

lol, I was thinking the same thing while browsing their site.

Sanzen ftw.
they used the penguin in 'of the room' video, they have a song called 'penguins in the desert'(what exactly do they mean) and the crying penguin in CWA

[Triangle]

Anyone else listened to their new B-side? It's pretty good. Quite similar to stuff off of CWA. It does have a pretty cool drum part at the end.

http://click.myreg.net/r/n_660972957/t_erEi/u_www.myspace.com/dredg

[lost_profits]

Penguins in the desert is like saying 'one doesn't fit here'. At least that's at face value.
It (the whole penguin in the desert thing) suited Leitmotif's almost middle eastern vibe but I think Dredg should drop it reasonably soon.

Man I was listening to El Cielo today, I was modestly reminded of how good this album is. 'Same Old Road' has some _brilliant_ melodies. I just got caught up in it's atmosphere.

[Knifeboy]

Anyone else listened to their new B-side? It's pretty good. Quite similar to stuff off of CWA. It does have a pretty cool drum part at the end.

http://click.myreg.net/r/n_660972957/t_erEi/u_www.myspace.com/dredg

If people actually read the dredg threads in this forum, they would have heard this many many months ago :p
Stone by stone is one of my favorite dredg songs

[Triangle]

If people actually read the dredg threads in this forum, they would have heard this many many months ago :p
Stone by stone is one of my favorite dredg songs
Whatever man. :p

You don't happen to have the mp3 of it, or have any idea of where to aqquire it?

[Spiritofmosa]

mark developed this new style of fast tremolo picking with delay and reverb effect in cwa.

[Knifeboy]

Whatever man. :p

You don't happen to have the mp3 of it, or have any idea of where to aqquire it?

http://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=23YTRTIU8JZEG1FZL94RZV0C63 :)

[team_racket]

their playing newport on the 5th dec i think. i was listening to them on purevolume and it was beautiful stuff . mite tag along to that gig.

[Moses]

http://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=23YTRTIU8JZEG1FZL94RZV0C63 :)
Ohhhhh, that's illegal!!!

Eh.

Anyway I think El Cielo is just full of so many revolutionary ideas it's insane. Listening to the album overwhelms me.


mark developed this new style of fast tremolo picking with delay and reverb effect in cwa.
I'm not sure I really like that, that much. I mean it's okay but I think he does it too often.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Anyone else listened to their new B-side? It's pretty good. Quite similar to stuff off of CWA. It does have a pretty cool drum part at the end.

http://click.myreg.net/r/n_660972957/t_erEi/u_www.myspace.com/dredg

Ha, everyone has to look at Dredg's top 8. The first member up there is Jake/Six Foot Revolver/etc..

How wierd is that. Over 21,000 friends, and the first friend is an mxer. :p

[Spiritofmosa]

I'm not sure I really like that, that much. I mean it's okay but I think he does it too often.

well it gets boring when used too much, but gives a lucid dreamy feeling successfully in some songs

[Triangle]

http://s60.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=23YTRTIU8JZEG1FZL94RZV0C63 :)
Thank you. Where did you get it from?

[Knifeboy]

A few months ago it was realesed through a german magazine called Vision, wich have been pimping dredg intensively for the past 4 years

Ohhhhh, that's illegal!!!

It really isn't. heheh

[Triangle]

I need more dredg. :(

Any rough idea when they're releasing a new album?

[Moses]

Well don't expect anything for a while. El Cielo was 2002 and CWA was 2005. It seems as though they are similar to Tool in that way.

[Kage]

They've got a considerable start writing on their new album. They say the new material is "weird."

[Knifeboy]

Well don't expect anything for a while. El Cielo was 2002 and CWA was 2005. It seems as though they are similar to Tool in that way.

CWA was written 2-3 years ago, inbetween El Cielo and CWA they never stopped touring... They're not like Tool in that way at all ;) .. They wanted to build a fanbase before releasing CWA, so I'm guessing the next album will come out the end of 06

[Triangle]

They've got a considerable start writing on their new album. They say the new material is "weird."
Excellent. I just hope it's good weird.

Just been looking at some of the art on their site. It's insane!

[Spiritofmosa]

not too wierd i hope

[Kage]

Excellent. I just hope it's good weird.
When it comes to Dredg, this is pretty much a given. ;)


Just been looking at some of the art on their site. It's insane!
I love that stuff. It's great.

[Knifeboy]

I read in a german interview that they might end up going with an almost guitarless album.. In the same interview Mark apologized for the songs Matroshka and Spitshine.. Haha

[Kage]

I read in a german interview that they might end up going with an almost guitarless album.. In the same interview Mark apologized for the songs Matroshka and Spitshine.. Haha
:lol: Haha...good. We deserved an apology for those. They're pretty bad, honestly. But...I'd like them to keep up with their guitars.

Do you have a link to the interview?

[shrxxm216]

i just realized there was a dredg thread so i must say, this band is AMAZING. one of the best shows i've ever seen too.

[Triangle]

I like Matroshka :upset: . I hope they keep the guitars in :-/ . They made El Cielo imo.

[Kage]

I like Matroshka :upset: . I hope they keep the guitars in :-/ . They made El Cielo imo.
Matroshka is okay, but it's weak in songwriting in terms of what Dredg is capable of. It's very elementary, though extremely catchy. And I agree about the guitars on El Cielo.

shrxxm: Welcome to the thread. Good to see more Dredg fans.

[Knifeboy]

http://www.sandra-fielitz.de/dredg.html Here's the interview, (in pdf form).. It's translated from german, so it's not.. perfect english

[Spiritofmosa]

partly without any guitars in the album sounds rad

[Moses]

Anyone interested in doing a Dredg cover? I'd like to do vocals and/or keys if anyone is interested.

[Reywas]

Does anyone have Stone By Stone they can mail?

[3074326]

Anyone interested in doing a Dredg cover? I'd like to do vocals and/or keys if anyone is interested.

Hmm.. I'd be interested in laying down some guitar tracks. Which song(s) would you be interested in doing?

[Spiritofmosa]

Anyone interested in doing a Dredg cover? I'd like to do vocals and/or keys if anyone is interested.
and how exactly would we work it out

[Knifeboy]

Does anyone have Stone By Stone they can mail?

There's a YSI link on last page

[shrxxm216]

has anyone heard what dates dredg will be playing on taste of chaos? if they don't play cleveland i will be horribly sad.

[3074326]

Cleveland - CSU Convention Center - Wednesday, March 15

They also play Toledo and Dayton the 16th and 17th.

http://www.tasteofchaos.com

[Rounder]

I have to say, i was a little disappointed in the new album. About the same time I got it, I also got the new 30 seconds to mars, and I was a little disappointed at the new sound both bands took, which although still different seemed to be heading in the same direction. The new dredg album sounds more like post emo stuff. There are some highlights, but definitely not liking it as much, which sucks since I just got into them last year.

[Spiritofmosa]

has anyone checked out Dredg - "Quarter Note"
Sunnyvale, CA (02.05.2000) (http://www.bandsvideos.com/full.html) ?
its old school stuff back in the days of Leimotif.. and its amazing how unpopular they were then, theres this part in the vid when a boy steps forward and someone came up to him cupped his ears and took him away.
does anyone know whateffect mark uses?

[Moses]

Hmm.. I'd be interested in laying down some guitar tracks. Which song(s) would you be interested in doing?
Hmmm, I'm open to anything really. I'd like to do Same Ol' Road or somthing. Doesn't really matter to me as long as it's not Zebraskin. I love the song but Gavin sings too high for me not to sound amess.

[Kage]

This video that cigaro posted rules. I love seeing Dredg at their most raw. Completely awesome, energetic performance.

[Moses]

I couldn't finish downloading it, it keeps timing out. :upset:

[3074326]

Hmmm, I'm open to anything really. I'd like to do Same Ol' Road or somthing. Doesn't really matter to me as long as it's not Zebraskin. I love the song but Gavin sings too high for me not to sound amess.

I was also thinking Same Ol' Road. :cool:

I love the cool guitar effects in that song. I'll have to work on figuring those out. Tomorrow I'll work on getting the basics of the song down, then I'll figure out the noises. I can probably have a recording done by mid next week, if that's okay.

Or would you rather find a drummer and bassist first?

[Moses]

Well I think we should have all the instrumentals before vocals come in. Either SOR or Sang Real. I love both songs and I could do keys if we did Sang Real. We do have till the end of January to get this done so no rush.

[3074326]

True.

Both are fine with me. Sang Real would be easier to record for me. It's just an easier song on guitar. I like it more, too. :)

The drumming doesn't sound too difficult, either, but I'm not a drummer.

Know any drummers and bassists who would be up for this?

[Knifeboy]

Zebraskin drums is sampled.. Or atleast they are when they're played live, according to this awesome video I'm watching

[Rounder]

Zebraskin drums is sampled.. Or atleast they are when they're played live, according to this awesome video I'm watching

what awesome video?

the one posted above?

[Knifeboy]

No, it's a video from the show they did at the Fillmore 6 days ago

[Triangle]

Lechium is great. Though I would just say that.

[Knifeboy]

I'm uploading that video for everyone as soon as I get permission from the guy who taped it

[Triangle]

Excellent. Last night I checked out some of their very early gig. They do put a lot of energy into the songs, but the singer did sound a little flat at some times.

I need to see them. :(

[Moses]

Zebraskin drums is sampled.. Or atleast they are when they're played live, according to this awesome video I'm watching
Why? It's not that hard, I learned that a few days ago. Not much more than a standard disco beat.

[Knifeboy]

Dino doesn't sample drumparts because they're hard... He samples them so he can play the piano.. Like in Sang Real

[e p]

Im a bassist who happens to be fond of dredg, so I can do bass parts for cover songs I guess. Zebraskin, Tanbark, or Planting Seeds would be cool.

[Moses]

Dino doesn't sample drumparts because they're hard... He samples them so he can play the piano.. Like in Sang Real
I'm sure the recorded version is real drums, it sounds like it.

e.p. - That would be cool if you could play bass for the cover. Does anyone wanna sample the drums or do we have a real drummer with recording capabilities in here?

[Knifeboy]

I still think they sound sampled, as in not.. His usual drumset

Uploading the video of them playing it live (along with Stone by Stone).. Watch for edit

Edit:
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0LOF5TGUKHB6B0VHA7E8IJPFJ0

I hope more than one person gets this before it times out hehe (please note that this is in no way illlegal since dredg is a taperfriendly band)

[Moses]

Crap I won't be able to check this out I'll be gone because of Christmas and no time to get it done. Damn.

Who want's to begin recording? Anyone gonna sample drums?

[Kage]

Thanks for posting the video, Knifeboy.

I'm downloading it now, and will post back with comments. I haven't listened to as much Dredg as usual, because Porcupine Tree has been occupying my mind too much lately. They just have so much variety of material, it's hard to get sick of them. Dredg needs to get a few more albums under their belt.

[Knifeboy]

Hehe. Agreed... I have no doubts that dredg have the capabilities of having just an amazing discography as PT though... One day (Although, they'll probably never release quite the same amount of matieral.. heheh)

[Moses]

Thanks for posting the video, Knifeboy.

I'm downloading it now, and will post back with comments. I haven't listened to as much Dredg as usual, because Porcupine Tree has been occupying my mind too much lately. They just have so much variety of material, it's hard to get sick of them. Dredg needs to get a few more albums under their belt.
I'd like to send you the 12:5 album by Pain of Salvation. It's an all acoustic live performance and it's so ****ing good. It might even knock PT out of your player. It has for me....

I'm proposing this especially to you because I have a feeling you would enjoy it for some reason.

[Kage]

I'd like to send you the 12:5 album by Pain of Salvation. It's an all acoustic live performance and it's so ****ing good. It might even knock PT out of your player. It has for me....

I'm proposing this especially to you because I have a feeling you would enjoy it for some reason.
Hell yeah, man, go for it. If you have that much confidence that I'll like it, I won't turn down the opportunity to hear it.

Although knocking PT out of my player will be an extremely tough feat. Even my discovery of bands like Riverside and Anathema of late (both of whom I extremely enjoy) hasn't managed it.

[Moses]

Hell yeah, man, go for it. If you have that much confidence that I'll like it, I won't turn down the opportunity to hear it.

Although knocking PT out of my player will be an extremely tough feat. Even my discovery of bands like Riverside and Anathema of late (both of whom I extremely enjoy) hasn't managed it.
I don't expect it to knock it out, but it might.

POS and Into Eternity are two bands that I've gotten into ALOT lately. Of course I still listen to Nevermore regularly.

And what's up with the avatar changes?

[LookItsARobot!]

I've got Catch Without Arms, and I've really been enjoying it. Which album would you recomend next?

[Moses]

Well El Cielo is definately their masterpiece so I'd say that. Don't expect to get into it right away though, it's alot less catchy and more flowy.

[LookItsARobot!]

Thanks, I've had CWA in my cd player for two weeks. I'll get El Cielo next time I get to the store.

[Knifeboy]

Leitmotif is a great album too.. More catchy than El Cielo, and borderline metal

[Killtacular]

Leitmotif = teh secks

[Kage]

I don't expect it to knock it out, but it might.

POS and Into Eternity are two bands that I've gotten into ALOT lately. Of course I still listen to Nevermore regularly.

And what's up with the avatar changes?
Ah, just checked my e-mail. Downloading now.

As for the avatars, I thought it was time for a change, changed it to one thing and got sick of that really fast and changed it to this. See if you can find the cryptic and obscure connection between my avatar and the user title. :p

Ah, I just put El Cielo in my player for the first time in about two weeks. Feels good.

[Moses]

I also sent out the Classical Education Mailing list with Luciano Pavarotti.

[Spiritofmosa]

Leitmotif = teh secks
i cant find that album in any record stores, i might just order it

[Moses]

All my files on my computer were erased and now I'm working to build it back up. I can't get El Cielo back yet until we get back from vacation.

So if we actually are going to record, who goes first? Drum samples?





Oh, so you can talk about the Dredg in the Tool thread but you can't bump this bad boy?

[Knifeboy]

Maybe you could lure faith+ into learning some dredg songs?
I'd imagine he'd dig Dino's drumming style

[Moses]

Marshall hasn't been around for a while. I guess it just won't go down.

[\m/ vo|ati|e \m/]

I got into this band a few years ago when i heard Yatahaze, i was blown away,such a powerful song love the bridge :D
Symbol Song,Kayasuma,Bug Eyes are some of my favs its cool how you can listen to the first Ep and then CWA and see just how much they have changed,when i first heard them the Deep Guitar tone reminded me of tool which is why i probly liked them,saying that now if you listen to CWA there nothing like em.

[Moses]

Bump

For some reason, I don't like Bug Eyes.

I like the song on their myspace page, Stone By Stone.

[Knifeboy]

I could upload that one for ya if you'd like?

[Kage]

My band learned Bug Eyes in about five minutes yesterday and we all nailed it. We could never do that for a song on El Cielo or Leitmotif. Just goes to show how much more straightforward the writing style is on CWoA.

[Moses]

You don't have to upload it unless you really want to.

Yeah, with El Cielo there were more time changes and aside from some of the atmospheric intros and mixing of genres I don't see anything progressive about Catch Without Arms. Either way it's still good music.

[Knifeboy]

I'll upload it as soon as this thread needs another bump ;)

[bucket]

I've been neglecting sleep for many nights since I got an mp3 player for Christmas. Last night a Dredg song came on during a random play all session. I then just put on my CWA cd. I wonder why it didn't stick to me the first few listens!

Ode to the Sun, Sang Real, Planting Seeds. Awesome music. I'm suprised I don't hear more about these guys.

I regret deleting Leitmotif now. Me and my stupid 9 gig computer!!

I hope to be finding the other Dredg albums soon.

[Knifeboy]

Good to know that more people are catching on to these guys :)

[Refl]

Not a clue why I havn't posted in here yet.

Got into Dredg after seeing them support Glassjaw in 2003.

Have all albums blah blah..


Love each of the albums on their invividual merits.

[Moses]

I just hope they don't do the straightfoward thing for too long.

[pixiesfanyo]

I wonder if anyone has the soundtrack they released last year?

[Knifeboy]

I wonder if anyone has the soundtrack they released last year?

I'll upload it, it's excellent ambient/low key music. What's your email?

I just hope they don't do the straightfoward thing for too long.

Most comments they've made about what they're writing at the moment have been along the lines of "it's really really weird"

[Moses]

Most comments they've made about what they're writing at the moment have been along the lines of "it's really really weird"
That's good.

[Kage]

That's what I've heard as well. Hopefully it will be something more experimental. The cool thing is, that CWoA is basically Dredg's take on writing pop songs, and it came out great. They've obviously got a very distinct style.

Somone mentioned Waterborne. I have it, and it's very good, but it doesn't fill the void when I'm in a "dredg" mood perse. It's more like I have to be in a Dredg and Waterborne mood to listen to it, if that makes any sense.

[Futuro]

Wow I heard Bug eyes from them today (Music video) I was impressed. Cool music, I really like how the drummer plays piano as well :cool:

[Knifeboy]

You should definately check out more dredg.. I bet you'll love the drumming... In most of their songs he doesn't play the same beat the same way twice

[Moses]

Wow I heard Bug eyes from them today (Music video) I was impressed. Cool music, I really like how the drummer plays piano as well :cool:
Bug Eyes is just the tip of the iceberg.

[Futuro]

Does he do alot of that piano drumming? That was pretty bad ***!

Bug Eyes is just the tip of the iceberg. Is that just there radio song or something?

You should definately check out more dredg.. I bet you'll love the drumming... In most of their songs he doesn't play the same beat the same way twiceAwsome, Im gonna look into buying some stuff from them.

[Moses]

Does he do alot of that piano drumming? That was pretty bad ***!

Is that just there radio song or something?
Awsome, Im gonna look into buying some stuff from them.
Yeah, that's just the radio song. Lets see I'll give you some information on their albums.

Catch Without Arms: It's their newest release with tons and tons of great songs. It has a more pop rock approach rather than post or progressive rock though. Includes tons of could-be hits. All of the songs are top notch but here are my favorites:
Ode to the Sun
Zebraskin
Not That Simple
Sang Real

El Cielo: This is probably their most acclaimed album and my personal favorite. It has a progressive/ambient/post rock approach. Great instrumentals, ideas, production, atmosphere, and pretty much anything you could ever want in an album. One of my favorite albums of all time and I can't get enough of it.
Favorites:
Same Ol' Road
Sanzen
Triangle
Of the Room
Whoa Is Me and too many others

Leitmotif: I don't know much about this album but from what I've heard, it's heavier but still has the same thing going as El Cielo.

Orph E.P.: Progressive Nu-metal? Yeah that's pretty much it. Three song E.P. with some really cool ideas. You can really see their young potential.

I listed all the albums in order from newest to oldest.

[Knifeboy]

Does he do alot of that piano drumming? That was pretty bad ***!

So far he's only utilized it on two or three songs, but I'm certain he'll be doing it more in the future.. At their live shows he sometimes does a piano+drums solo jam

From Catch without arms I can recommend The Tanbark Is Hot Lava, wich has awesome drumming

[Kage]

Yeah, that's just the radio song. Lets see I'll give you some information on their albums.

Catch Without Arms: It's their newest release with tons and tons of great songs. It has a more pop rock approach rather than post or progressive rock though. Includes tons of could-be hits. All of the songs are top notch but here are my favorites:
Ode to the Sun
Zebraskin
Not That Simple
Sang Real

El Cielo: This is probably their most acclaimed album and my personal favorite. It has a progressive/ambient/post rock approach. Great instrumentals, ideas, production, atmosphere, and pretty much anything you could ever want in an album. One of my favorite albums of all time and I can't get enough of it.
Favorites:
Same Ol' Road
Sanzen
Triangle
Of the Room
Whoa Is Me and too many others

Leitmotif: I don't know much about this album but from what I've heard, it's heavier but still has the same thing going as El Cielo.

Orph E.P.: Progressive Nu-metal? Yeah that's pretty much it. Three song E.P. with some really cool ideas. You can really see their young potential.

I listed all the albums in order from newest to oldest.
Listen to this guy, everything he said was right on.

[Moses]

From Catch without arms I can recommend The Tanbark Is Hot Lava, wich has awesome drumming
From that album I'd have to say Zebraskin has the best drumming. I don't think that's a machine on the album, I just think they use a machine live so he can play keys.

My favorite drum beat he does is in Of The Room during the verse. The high-hat stuff is cool.







COME ON GUYS!!! I thought you could keep this moving.

BTW I get chills everytime I listen to Sanzen.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

There's a couple fills in the beginning of The Symbol Song that make me play drums on my belly every time I listen to the song. :lol:

Dino is really a great drummer.

[Moses]

What's the Leitmotif concept all about?

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

"The story of Leitmotif is about a man with a "spiritual disease" who must seek out different cultures of the world to find a cure for his affliction."

http://www.defyperception.net/dredg/leitmotif.htm

[Kage]

Leitmotif, fitting with its concept, is one of those albums that makes you feel like you've actually gone somewhere over the course of it. Like a real journey. I love the way that album is structured, with the heavy stuff and the weirder more experimental stuff completely intertwined.

El Cielo is less a journey than an exploration of your own emotions and atmospheres, in a way. It's more dreamy and cinematic.

[Spiritofmosa]

recently i bought leimotif which was a little over priced, but it was the only leimotif in singapore anyway. the booklet tells the whole story of leimotif. i havent completely comprehended the story but i was disappointed by how short the album was. 90 hour sleep is wierd song , anybody have the story behind the laughing and yelling at the end?

[Kage]

I haven't looked too deep into the actual story of Leitmotif, because, for me, the music itself does all the talking. That's the greatness of the album.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Kage - That's true, but once I researched the intended meaning of Leitmotif, I just feel like I connect with the album on an even deeper level.

[Moses]

Hey check out the Tool thread for something I'd like to know about astral projection/lucid dreaming.

[Knifeboy]

I haven't looked too deep into the actual story of Leitmotif, because, for me, the music itself does all the talking. That's the greatness of the album.

I read the booklet after already having fully connected with the album, and it just made the whole thing better.. I actually think reading the booklet before having thoroughly listened to the album isn't a good idea.. So I think you'd enjoy reading the booklet

[Knifeboy]

From that album I'd have to say Zebraskin has the best drumming. I don't think that's a machine on the album, I just think they use a machine live so he can play keys.

Hey, guess what, we're both right
http://traversing.pinkpenguins.com/viewtopic.php?t=2329

Edit: Now that I've read that.. It seems extremely clear.. Hehe

[Spiritofmosa]

Hey, guess what, we're both right
http://traversing.pinkpenguins.com/viewtopic.php?t=2329

Edit: Now that I've read that.. It seems extremely clear.. Hehe
hey .. i signed up for the forums too

[Moses]

Hey, guess what, we're both right
http://traversing.pinkpenguins.com/viewtopic.php?t=2329

Edit: Now that I've read that.. It seems extremely clear.. Hehe
That's cool. Dino is awesome.

[Knifeboy]

Indeed.. And Drew is awesome for taking the time to answer peoples questions

[Moses]

Yeah, I'm gonna be going to Taste of Chaos this year, can't wait for Dredg and Pelican not to mention Deftones. Wierd how they have some good bands on there.

[Trintar_VIII]

I might be going to Taste of Chaos as well. It should be a fun time.

[omgwtfboogie]

I just listened to Dredg, and while I've heard a lot of bands that sound somewhat like them, they really know how to stand out and write a hell of a song. I love everything I've heard:

"Bug Eyes"
"Ode to the Sun"
"Not That Simple"
"Jamais Vu"

[Kage]

I just listened to Dredg, and while I've heard a lot of bands that sound somewhat like them, they really know how to stand out and write a hell of a song. I love everything I've heard:

"Bug Eyes"
"Ode to the Sun"
"Not That Simple"
"Jamais Vu"
No wonder you've heard a lot of bands like them; those songs are from their least unique album. Try something off of El Cielo.

[Moses]

I just listened to Dredg, and while I've heard a lot of bands that sound somewhat like them, they really know how to stand out and write a hell of a song. I love everything I've heard:

"Bug Eyes"
"Ode to the Sun"
"Not That Simple"
"Jamais Vu"
Bet you never heard a song like Triangle or Sorry But It's Over.

[Knifeboy]

Or Sanzen, or Symbol Song, or Of The Room, or Running Through Propellors (watching a live video from 2000 of them playing it live right now.. Such a kickass song)

[Moses]

El Cielo is so great, I don't know whether or not to think this album was an accident.

[omgwtfboogie]

No, that was only what I'd gotten to at that point. My new favorite at the moment is "Triangle". There is quite a bit of different sonically between thier latest and the two previous albums, you're right. Loving it.

[Moses]

Great to have new one aboard.

[omgwtfboogie]

El Cielo seems to have the most universal praise from those I've talked to, so I'll prolly start with that one unless someone says otherwise.

[Kage]

El Cielo seems to have the most universal praise from those I've talked to, so I'll prolly start with that one unless someone says otherwise.
Yep, it's their masterpiece in my mind. Leitmotif falls extremelyt shortly behind that.

[omgwtfboogie]

Yep, it's their masterpiece in my mind. Leitmotif falls extremelyt shortly behind that.
So would you recommend El Cielo, then Catch Without Arms followed by Leitmotif? Or El Cielo, Leitmotif, and finally Catch Without Arms?

[Kage]

It depends on what you like about them. CWoA is catchier and more accessible, while still retaining a very high level of songwriting; Leitmotif is far more energetic, yet also more unique and original, with some bizarre-sounding experimentation and a larger variety in songwriting. Personally, I went the El Cielo > Lietmotif > CWoA path (mainly because I got into them before CWoA was released), and I couldn't imagine doing it any other way.

But El Cielo first for sure.

Just to clarify, Leitmotif is almost as good as El Cielo, just not quite.

[omgwtfboogie]

I think I'll go with a El Cielo, Leitmotif, then Catch Without Arms progression. I love what I've heard off of El Cielo, so if Leitmotif isn't that far behind it I'm going for it.

[Kage]

Good choice.

[omgwtfboogie]

Thanks for the help.

[Sleeper]

I've just got into this band recently, they have such good stuff. I was pretty dissapointed with Leitmotif, but El Cielo and Catch Without Arms are great albums. They remind me of so many bands put together, these guys are my favorite band at the moment.

[shrxxm216]

i felt i needed to say again that i love this band and every song i have ever heard by them.

[Spiritofmosa]

is dredg currently working on their new album? where are they now?

[Knifeboy]

is dredg currently working on their new album? where are they now?

They are on a break I guess.. But also working on new songs.. They have said that they might play new songs when they go on a headlining tour after playing Taste of Chaos