Muse

[Neoteric]

I just downloaded Origin of Symmetry, I like what I'm hearing.

[elbassio]

Showbiz>Origin Of Symmetry(barely),>Absolution> Hullaballoo.

And I've still not heard Black Holes And Revelations. as I mentioned before.

At least we all agree that Muse are awesome. Nuff said.

[Up The Irons]

Absolution = Origin > Black Holes > Showbiz for me sorry dudes

although theyre all amazing

[here comes the bird flu]

Showbiz>BH&R>Origin of Symmetry> Absolution

I like them all a lot, though.

[trysthedrummer]

Tumples, go to my myspace at www.myspace.com/drummerguytrys - Ive got Dead Star, Glorious and Futurism up on a player. In the meantime Il try and get them so you can download 'em. Or next time your on msn Il send.

The link is wrong I know, but where is the little magic button gone?

[trysthedrummer]

I didn't know their song Glorious was acutally on BH&R, it's track 12 on the special album :S

[Up The Irons]

No, it's a bonus track.

By the way, BH&R is probably the best pump up music. I just ran home (about a mile) blasting the first few songs and it felt good. Actually, any Muse really. Just good, energetic music.

[Jimi Haze]

I didn't know their song Glorious was acutally on BH&R, it's track 12 on the special album :S
Bonus Track on Japenese albums I believe...

BH&R is such an immense album - pretty much all I've been listening to since release and I'm SO glad I managed to get some tickets (standing) to see them at Wembley Arena, that is going to be some awesome gig.

Muse twice in a year? RESULT! :chug:

[trysthedrummer]

Yes, it's a bonus track, but you can get it with BH&R.

[here comes the bird flu]

I didn't know their song Glorious was acutally on BH&R, it's track 12 on the special album :S
You get it with the album off iTunes.

[bwnstl]

Does anyone have the setlist from their Chicago gig? I'd like it because I forgot what order they played stuff in.

Fantastic show, though. Ranks with NIN as the best show I've seen.

[Shadius]

"Map of the Problematique (love the flow of this tune)
Hysteria
Supermassive Black Hole (like it better live)
Butterflies and Hurricanes
City of Delusion
FORCED IN
Bliss
Sunburn
Soldier's Poem (nice light effect traveling back and forth)
Invincible
New Born (This kicked major *** live...one of my favorite ever since I first heard it in the horror movie High Tension)
Starlight
Plug In Baby
Stockholm Syndrome
encore

Take A Bow (So very EPIC sounding)
Time Is Running Out (love that mammoth riff at the end)
Knights of Cydonia"

source: http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1344826

google search ftw

This site's cool, shows you every setlist from this tour

http://www.musesyndrome.com/forums/page.php?id=166

[bwnstl]

Ok, I found it earlier. What is this "forced in" nonsense though?

[Shadius]

Ok, I found it earlier. What is this "forced in" nonsense though?

I have no idea, I just think they're being eccentric. A waste of 4 minutes if you ask me, lol.

[trysthedrummer]

It's pretty good that. I like The Gallery too.

[Shadius]

It's pretty good that. I like The Gallery too.

I much prefer The Gallery to Forced In.

[Jimi Haze]

Ok, I found it earlier. What is this "forced in" nonsense though?
Go buy Hullabaloo.

"Map of the Problematique (love the flow of this tune)
Hysteria
Supermassive Black Hole (like it better live)
Butterflies and Hurricanes
City of Delusion
FORCED IN
Bliss
Sunburn
Soldier's Poem (nice light effect traveling back and forth)
Invincible
New Born (This kicked major *** live...one of my favorite ever since I first heard it in the horror movie High Tension)
Starlight
Plug In Baby
Stockholm Syndrome
encore

Take A Bow (So very EPIC sounding)
Time Is Running Out (love that mammoth riff at the end)
Knights of Cydonia"

Looks like a good set, very pleased they ended with Stockholm Syndrome before the encore - that's how it should be sinc KoC has come about. Although not too sure about opening with MotP. Would open with Take a Bow, then open the encore with Assasin tbh.

AND STILL NO EXO POLITICS wtf?

[Shadius]

Go buy Hullabaloo.



Looks like a good set, very pleased they ended with Stockholm Syndrome before the encore - that's how it should be sinc KoC has come about. Although not too sure about opening with MotP. Would open with Take a Bow, then open the encore with Assasin tbh.

AND STILL NO EXO POLITICS wtf?

Or they could not play Assassin at all and play a better song off one of their other albums :eek:

[Collis]

I'm hoping that when I see them in Birmingham in November they do some stuff off Showbiz; hopefully Cave ... :thumb: (Which is probably my favourite Muse song ... Close call though)

[bwnstl]

Or they could not play Assassin at all and play a better song off one of their other albums :eek:

I really like Assassin....and I'm really happy with the setlist they played in Chicago, it was near perfect.

[Jimi Haze]

Or they could not play Assassin at all and play a better song off one of their other albums :eek:
Wanna see the new stuff though :)

Sure something like Cave, Showbiz, Space Dementia, Hyper Music would be good....but they've gotta incorporate as much new material in as possible.

It's like having Time is Running Out still there like second to last - it's no way on of their best songs...but they have to do it 'cos it's (probably) their biggest hit and most famous song...although Plug in Baby ftw tbh.

I'd REALLY like to see The Small Print in the setlist though, it's bloody brilliant live.

[bwnstl]

Am I the only one who thinks Map of the Problematique is one of their best songs? It's my favorite song of ANY band right now.

[Up The Irons]

Yeah I dig that song a lot too.

I feel like I've heard it before though. Like a looong time ago on the radio or something.

[Jimi Haze]

Am I the only one who thinks Map of the Problematique is one of their best songs? It's my favorite song of ANY band right now.
I like it - the live versions I've heard are a lot better than the one on the record though :) It seems a bit dull at times....but I do like the vocals and the Faithless-esque style of it all :)

[here comes the bird flu]

I don't really like MOTP that much, tbqh.

[Shadius]

I don't really like MOTP that much, tbqh.

Silly.

Yeah, it's a great song. It's one of those songs that people either would just think is okay, or they actually get the atmosphere of it and think it's brilliant.

Who's going to opening for them on the UK tour (Who's opened for them in the US and elsewhere?) I heard My Chemical Romance rumours a while ago, I really hope this isn't the case, seeing as they suck major ***.

[bwnstl]

I didn't even know they were going to have an opener, so when we got to the show half an hour late I felt like I wanted to kill myself because I thought I had missed half an hour of Muse! (not really kill myself, but I was PISSED)
Well, it turns out we just caught the end of the opener. I was relieved and thankful there was an opener. But nowhere did it say they would have an opener--not on the ticket, not on the venue's website, not on Muse's website, nowhere.

When I first heard MotP, it was after my best friend had told me that she knew it would be my favorite song on the album (she knows me really well, so I trusted her). So it starts playing, and I just have this "wtf?" expression on my face, because I don't like the first two bars of noise. Then the piano came in, and I immediately got chills. It was amazing.

[2muchket!]

MOTP is amazin'.

[here comes the bird flu]

Last time I saw them, The Zutons opened for them. Major :lol:.

[Jimi Haze]

Zutons and Soulwax opened for them at Earls Court I've read...something similar would be alright I guess...

As long as it's not MCR :lol:

[Shadius]

Last time I saw them, The Zutons opened for them. Major :lol:.

I could live with that. Some half decent indie band that I've heard a single or two by would be fine, cos I could d/l an album or two before the gig and maybe vaugely enjoy it.

[incubliss]

I'm seeing them at Reading fest in 3 weeks, and then on the 22nd of November in Wembley. Seeing Tool the night before in CIA in Cardiff.

Best two days evar.

[Jimi Haze]

I'm seeing them at Reading fest in 3 weeks, and then on the 22nd of November in Wembley. Seeing Tool the night before in CIA in Cardiff.

Best two days evar.
zomg.

Me too!

Minus Tool.

Standing 22nd of Nov at Wembley is going to be intense... as will Reading :D

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

I listen to metal mostly, but I like Time is Running Out, cool song.

[Shadius]

I listen to metal mostly, but I like Time is Running Out, cool song.

Hysteria and Stockholm Syndrome are fairly heavy songs by Muse, maybe you could check those out.

[ghettoeddo]

yea TiRO has a neat groove.

i just bought black holes & revelations :]

[Shadius]

what the hell happened to muse's ratings on sputnik? a load of people who like dont even post on here and only seem to listen to punk/metal rated the album 1 star. the average rating has gone down to 3.6, thats weak man.

[Jaundice]

I hate to favor the big hit single, but Time is Running Out could very well be my favorite song by the band. The bassline is outstanding, and when you throw in finger-snapping, plus when the heavy guitar comes in in the second verse, it's just powerful.

[Shadius]

I hate to favor the big hit single, but Time is Running Out could very well be my favorite song by the band. The bassline is outstanding, and when you throw in finger-snapping, plus when the heavy guitar comes in in the second verse, it's just powerful.

As cool as it is, it's nowhere near their best song. It's not even the best song on Absolution. I much prefer Stockholm Syndrome and Hysteria to TIRO.

Anyway, Supermassive Black Hole is their hit single now. :p

[Jaundice]

It's not their best, but it's like a current favorite. I'm played myself sick of Absolution, so atmosphere isn't as striking as just great grooves, now.

Hysteria is almost as good as TiRO in my opinion. A lot of people seem to favor Stockholm Syndrome, but its not much of a standout track for me. Its really good, but I'd take Falling Away With You over it anyday.

[PAJJ]

Falling away with you has always been one on my favs off Absolution, i really love the intro/1st verse guitar , it's fairly simple, but it's just brilliant, a lot like the majority of muses great riffs.

who's the chap in your avatar i recognize him, but can't put a name to the face.

[Shadius]

Looks like Radiohead's Mr. Johnny Greenwood. And falling away is great until the chorus where it all goes downhill and gets a little repetitive. I don't even think the band were that happy with it, thus never (rarely?) playing it.

[PAJJ]

oh yeah so it is, it's reminding me of someone else, just can't think of who, if that makes sense :-/
but anyway back to the muse I really like the whole song, it's not my fav on the album, it's behind stockholm and hysteria, but i dunno something just clicks, and as i said really love that intro guitar.

[Jimi Haze]

Stockholm Syndrome live Vids > ALL

I can't bloody wait to see that live, the one at Earls Court looked so bloody awesome :D Just sad they can't end with it anymore :p ah well....Knights of Cydonia is pretty freekking awesome too!

[Shadius]

On a purely objective level they should still end with Stockholm Syndrome. Knights is good, but it's not as raw and powerful as Stockholm Syndrome for a closer, especially with that awesome riff they used to add to it.

Maybe on their next tour they'll realise this. They just have too many good songs.

[Otherside]

Best Muse vid I've seen is New Born.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=1NxYH8e9IJI&search=new%20born

[Up The Irons]

On a purely objective level they should still end with Stockholm Syndrome. Knights is good, but it's not as raw and powerful as Stockholm Syndrome for a closer, especially with that awesome riff they used to add to it.

Maybe on their next tour they'll realise this. They just have too many good songs.

They opened with KoC when I saw em. It was okay, I would have perferred Apocalypse Please :p

[Jaundice]

I rather enjoy the chorus to Falling Away With You. It used to make me shiver. The lyrics to the whole song are also very good.

[Kyle the 2nd]

I randomly pressed the red button on BBC today, and they had a few songs from a Muse Top of The Pops gig of some sorts. It was pretty good, Supermassive Blackhole was amazing.

[bwnstl]

On a purely objective level they should still end with Stockholm Syndrome. Knights is good, but it's not as raw and powerful as Stockholm Syndrome for a closer, especially with that awesome riff they used to add to it.

Maybe on their next tour they'll realise this. They just have too many good songs.

I can understand where you're coming from, but I disagree. I think in terms of closers, KoC is so much better. I actually get chills from that song.

SS I see as more of a 2nd or 3rd song because it packs that immense punch, really gets the crowd into it.

[Quirky Turkey]

The new Muse album is superb. I can't stop listening to Take A Bow, Starlight Map Of The Problematique and Knights Of Cydonia sounds more and more like the soundtrack to a John Carpenter sci-fi/space opera. Contender for album of the year!

[trysthedrummer]

They've been looped on channel 99 (bbc digitial/freeview) on top of the pops in the uk. I only saw Knights of Cydonia and MOTP.

Il check to see if they still are.

edit: Yeah they are, go go go!

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Hysteria and Stockholm Syndrome are fairly heavy songs by Muse, maybe you could check those out.
Will do, thanks man.

[2muchket!]

^ you might want to check out Assassin as well, has some nice drums in that song.

[lamb_of_goddrummer]

Thanks, i will. Yeah that umm second prechorus? i think in TIRO makes the song for me with the drumming.

[Clunge]

Numpy-bump due to return from holiday-ness.

Who's seen the frankly dreadful Starlight video then?

[Jimi Haze]

Numpy-bump due to return from holiday-ness.

Who's seen the frankly dreadful Starlight video then?
Yeh, it's not that bad - a bit clichéd though...

Not quite as weird as KoC :lol: - Think it fits the song, even if it is a bit boring......and taking the "This ship has taken me far away" a bit too literally :lol:

[Kyle]

Yeah, I wasn't impressed. I wish they had just released KOC with the US video.

[PAJJ]

i didn't think the starlight video was that bad, i agree with Jimi Haze, it's just a 'bit' cliched, but it's nothing on the KoC that is a top quality video, they definitely should have released that over here.

[Moses]

I just got Black Holes and Revelations. It's good.

[Shadius]

Numpy-bump due to return from holiday-ness.

Who's seen the frankly dreadful Starlight video then?

I thought the video was decent. Cliché'd, yeah, true, but it's not a bad video. I saw it when it was premiered on Channel 4 for the first time, I actually prefer it to the Supermassive Black Hole video.

KoC video does beat all, though.

[2muchket!]

Aye its alright I suppose. Although as previusly said cliched.

[Moses]

Who does all the composition? Whoever does it is a master of 4-part harmony.

[Clunge]

Bellamy writes everything I believe.

[Shadius]

Who does all the composition? Whoever does it is a master of 4-part harmony.

Yeah, Bellamy is credited with writing almost all their songs. I wouldn't be suprised if Chris came up with the odd bass riff and such, and Dom did all the drums himself, but Matt writes the songs and generally does the arranging as far as I'm aware and my album sleaves tell me.

He's a very talented musician. You give him some crazy bassline or random set of chords and he'll sing a good, usually unique melody over it.

[Moses]

He must be trained in classical composition or atleast went to school for it. The four part harmonies are what I'm mostly impressed by.

[everytimefeelslikebliss]

I'm very obsessive about this band, seen them 4 times now, fantastic everytime. I find it hard to fault them, And I think i've brought everything you can buy from shops, and downloaded just about all the rare songs.

Anyone thats not into Muse...you're missing out.

[Dead Star]

I'm trying to collect all the B-Sides these guys have.

The Groove is probably my favourite song by them.

[Clunge]

He must be trained in classical composition or atleast went to school for it. The four part harmonies are what I'm mostly impressed by.
Classically trained pianist :cool: .

[Clunge]

I'm trying to collect all the B-Sides these guys have.

The Groove is probably my favourite song by them.
I have every b-side released bar radio-edits and remixes if you want some.

[Reywas]

vvvvvvv

Contender for best avatar ever : Senor Clunge

[Clunge]

Youknowzit :cool:

[incubliss]

I remember reading somewhere about Starlight being the follow up to Sing for Absolution...I don't really see it.

[Clunge]

That was only rumoured because David Slade was to direct the Starlight vid (after doing the S4A vid) and also, Starlight is kinda similar to S4A.

[2muchket!]

Yeah the piano is kinda different though.

[PAJJ]

someone told me today matt wanted to do a prog album in the vein of darkside of the moon, anyone know if it's true or anything?
I think it sounds pretty cool, i love to see what they'd bring to the genre

[Clunge]

someone told me today matt wanted to do a prog album in the vein of darkside of the moon, anyone know if it's true or anything?
I think it sounds pretty cool, i love to see what they'd bring to the genre
BH&R was origally shaping up to be a 3 disc DSOTM style epic before they commercialised it when they went to New York.

They have stated that they have a 'full-blown prog album gremlin' within them that they may have to get out of their system sometime which would rock.

[Moses]

Eh, he doesn't sound like a classically trained pianist or maybe he just took it for a little while. He's definately taken some composition classes though and done some analyzation.

[Clunge]

Eh, he doesn't sound like a classically trained pianist or maybe he just took it for a little while. He's definately taken some composition classes though and done some analyzation.
He is, vraiment.

Read some old interviews or a biography, should be in there I'm sure.

[Moses]

Hmm... The way he plays it just seems like he might know a thing or two but never got that far. I'm a classical and jazz piano player so that's just what I hear.

[Shadius]

Hmm... The way he plays it just seems like he might know a thing or two but never got that far. I'm a classical and jazz piano player so that's just what I hear.

You heard the butterflies and hurricanes piano solo? Sounds, and looks fairly advanced to me. Grab a live vid. I'm sure it's not the hardest thing in the world to play or anything, but it definately looks above intermediate.

Bellamy rarely plays the hardest things possible, I think he always has it in the back of his mind that he'll have to play it live, and probably sing at the same time.

Starlight > Sing for Absolution.

Oh, and as i've said before, I'd love their next album to be a prog epic. 3 disk though? I heard that they recorded about 20 songs in their studio time, the other half generally being weirder than the more commercial yet still experimental side they put on the album. We've only heard Crying Shame and Glorius so far, Glorius being slightly proggy.

[Moses]

Oh, I know how that goes. I'm just saying, by classical training, I mean there's an exact technique that pianists play with, unless they're an anomoly like Jordan Ruddess, who has horrible form but sounds clean so it's okay.

EDIT:
/just watched the video

It's impressive and clean and he does sound somewhat classically trained. The things he was doing with two hands Vladmir Ashkenazy would do with one most of the time.

[Sleeper]

I'm trying to collect all the B-Sides these guys have.

The Groove is probably my favourite song by them.
There cover of Please Please Please Let Me Get What I want is pretty good, Futurism is one of my favorite B-Sides.

[Moses]

If Muse came out like in the 90's, they'd have been huge. Now everyone is so afraid of somthing artistic.

I just don't like the glissando he does live on Butterflies and Hurricanes. It bugs me. Everything else is pretty cool on that solo.

[incubliss]

They did come out in the 90's.

[Moses]

I meant, CAME OUT! like Nirvana and ****.

I am starting to become obsessed with this band.

[Duman]

BH&R was origally shaping up to be a 3 disc DSOTM style epic before they commercialised it when they went to New York.

They have stated that they have a 'full-blown prog album gremlin' within them that they may have to get out of their system sometime which would rock.

Holy shit. That would actually make my life complete.

[Shadius]

I meant, CAME OUT! like Nirvana and ****.

I am starting to become obsessed with this band.

I agree, they are really influenced by 90's music. Especially their first two albums.

Muse are one of my very favourite bands and a big songwriting influence.

Edit: Muse are huge though, especially in the UK and France. They headlined Glastonbury festival (2004), which Radiohead headlined the year before, to put it in perspective. This new album seems to be the next step up in popularity though, probably about as big a leap as from OoS to Absolution.

[here comes the bird flu]

I agree, they are really influenced by 90's music. Especially their first two albums.

Muse are one of my very favourite bands and a big songwriting influence.

Edit: Muse are huge though, especially in the UK and France. They headlined Glastonbury festival (2004), which Radiohead headlined the year before, to put it in perspective. This new album seems to be the next step up in popularity though, probably about as big a leap as from OoS to Absolution.
I think they might be starting to turn into MTV whores..:/

I fear for Muse.

[Moses]

I don't care. If they get big, I'd be happy. They're so artistic, and that's what popular music needs.

[Shadius]

I also agree. I'm honestly glad they're popular. They've been a popular alternative music channel band since Origin, Absolution sent them well on their way to Super-stardom, and this new album has embraced more pop, but the experimentation is still there, and what's even more encouraging is this talk of them having a full blown prog album wanting to come out, hopefully within the next album or two, by that time they'll be extremely popular and it could turn into something like this generations Dark Side of the Moon, or OK Computer (haha) or something. I wouldn't want to put too much hope on it, but I honestly don't think Muse are capable of putting out a terrible album with all the musicality going on in Bellamy's head.

[Clunge]

10 days until Eden!

:D :D :D

[Kyle]

2 weeks til' headline slot at Reading Fest :D

[Triangle]

2 weeks til' headline slot at Reading Fest :D
Hi5!

I wish they had released the 3 disk prog album. I really do. :(

[denboy]

I think they might be starting to turn into MTV whores..:/

I fear for Muse.

They have been MTV whores since OoS.. .. .. That's how I got into them... New Born was played atleast every hour back in 01.. And the Bliss video even more than that

[Clunge]

BH&R was at one stage going to be something like this:

Disc 1 - Pretty much what we got
Disc 2 - Epic piano-prog
Disc 3 - Dom playing the synth

The Piano-prog is rumoured to be coming out as an EP sometime.

[Shadius]

To be fair though, they've never been whores, their music isn't exactly made for the sole purpose of appearing on MTV.

[Against Miik!]

I don't really care if they get big. This essentially is there "sellout" album. And by sellout, I mean the one that makes them big. And it still amazing. So them getting big would be fantastic, because it means they would actually tour the States.

[denboy]

To be fair though, they've never been whores, their music isn't exactly made for the sole purpose of appearing on MTV.

True

[Shadius]

BH&R was at one stage going to be something like this:

Disc 1 - Pretty much what we got
Disc 2 - Epic piano-prog
Disc 3 - Dom playing the synth

The Piano-prog is rumoured to be coming out as an EP sometime.

ooh, yes, I think they're about due an EP. I kinda think a 3 disk CD is a little ambitious, even for Muse. I only own a handful of double disk albums, and often I feel as though they could have been cut down into fantastic albums. So even for Muse it could be a little silly, but I'm definately for them giving it a go at some point in their carear, but until then a piano-prog EP would be fantastic.

[Six Foot Revolver]

Holy shit. That would actually make my life complete.
Agreed.

[Clunge]

OOPAJOIDHAHD&*(Y&*£(!!

Leaked clip of another new song, http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=5508ADED60E64016

It's apparantly called 'Easily Forgotten' or something like that. Sounds coolish.

[randomthought9]

They are getting bigger I think though, more people I know are starting to hear of them. I don't know how big they are anywhere else, but in the US they are getting bigger, I think.

[trysthedrummer]

Yep, definately. Even more so with BH&R, getting much more commercial.

81 days to go until I see 'em

[Shadius]

OOPAJOIDHAHD&*(Y&*£(!!

Leaked clip of another new song, http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=5508ADED60E64016

It's apparantly called 'Easily Forgotten' or something like that. Sounds coolish.

The Starlight b-side, perhaps?

[Virus278]

Apocalypse Please is great to take out your frustrations on the piano.
Blackout is the party trick one though. Chicks love it.

Which pino part in Blackout are u talking about? I didn't know that there was a piano part

[Clunge]

Righto people's, Starlight single out Sept 4th.

1. Starlight
2. Easily

There are DVD versions with the vid and stuff available too.

Artwork:

http://static.flickr.com/77/215215218_fd0465dc04.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/75/215212178_2652fa3fca.jpg

[Polyamarous]

The Knights of Cydonia video is crazy!

[Clunge]

Brilliant isn't it? A stupid video for a stupid song really, both overblown and funkyamazingcakecheese.

6 days til Eden!

:cool:

[Polyamarous]

Brilliant isn't it? A stupid video for a stupid song really, both overblown and funkyamazingcakecheese.

6 days til Eden!

:cool:

Oh I know, it's brilliant really.

Grr at you Eden goers. Muse at Reading in 10 days!

[Dead Star]

11 days til Leeds :D

[snoop-au]

yay I got Absolution two days ago - now I own 3 Muse albums - the most albums I own from any band, followed by Tool, Ben Harper, AFI (2 albums) :)

[Jaundice]

I just tried to listen to BH&R for the second time. I'm prepared to call it one of the most insufferably bad albums I've ever listened to.

[Virus278]

The Knights of Cydonia video is crazy!

That video was really funny. I liked the part where the cowboy shot that peice of tumbleweed with a laser lol

[trysthedrummer]

No! It's not a bad album. Keep listening to it. I'm sure it'll grow on you. Some good tracks on there.


Anyway you can listen to Glorious here, and download the song if you want.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=97316454! doesnt want to do it.


Thoughts of their Starlight vid?

[Jaundice]

No! It's not a bad album. Keep listening to it. I'm sure it'll grow on you. Some good tracks on there.


Anyway you can listen to Glorious here, and download the song if you want.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=97316454! doesnt want to do it.


Thoughts of their Starlight vid?Yeah, I'm trying to let it grow on me. I'm not ready to call it good, but it's starting to be tolerable. I really enjoy Starlight and Invincible, and a couple of other songs are good, but most of it is dribble as far as I'm concerned.

[Up The Irons]

Yeah a lot of people really don't like Black Holes, I don't know why. It's a really fun album!

[bwnstl]

Yeah, I'm trying to let it grow on me. I'm not ready to call it good, but it's starting to be tolerable. I really enjoy Starlight and Invincible, and a couple of other songs are good, but most of it is dribble as far as I'm concerned.

Why don't you explain why instead of just making a blanket statement with no support?

[Clunge]

I've got my sombrero fitted with elastic.

Roll on tuesday :cool:.

Last night in Switzerland, they played Showbiz AND Citizen Erased in the same set, lets just hope this holds out for a few more shows.

[Dead Star]

I've got my sombrero fitted with elastic.

Roll on tuesday :cool:.

Last night in Switzerland, they played Showbiz AND Citizen Erased in the same set, lets just hope this holds out for a few more shows.

/crosses fingers for Leeds

[Jaundice]

Why don't you explain why instead of just making a blanket statement with no support?Most of the songs just really didn't appeal to me. Though I'm all for poppy dance songs, Supermassive Blackhole laid it on too thick for me. I couldn't feel the emotion for most of the songs. Knights of Cydonia was just lame chugging riffs all throughout. The great melodies weren't there, in my opinion. There was too much keyboard. The space obsession and such were done to excess. Take a Bow lacks any feeling to me. And so on. I'm not saying it's horrible, but some of the songs were merely insufferable for me, and I just really don't find it to be that great of an album.

[bwnstl]

Most of the songs just really didn't appeal to me. Though I'm all for poppy dance songs, Supermassive Blackhole laid it on too thick for me. I couldn't feel the emotion for most of the songs. Knights of Cydonia was just lame chugging riffs all throughout. The great melodies weren't there, in my opinion. There was too much keyboard. The space obsession and such were done to excess. Take a Bow lacks any feeling to me. And so on. I'm not saying it's horrible, but some of the songs were merely insufferable for me, and I just really don't find it to be that great of an album.

Ok, fair enough. :)
Sorry if I came across harsh, I just don't like when people don't back up their assertions.

[trysthedrummer]

I think ''Easily Forgotten'' is on the Starlight Single. It sounded pretty cool, someone put an excerpt on here about 20 sec long.

[Six Foot Revolver]

In a week I will be seeing Muse headlining Leeds Festival =D.

[Shadius]

I just tried to listen to BH&R for the second time. I'm prepared to call it one of the most insufferably bad albums I've ever listened to.

I feel sorry for you. I really do.

[Clunge]

In 2 days, I shall be moshing madly to every song I can.

Except Starlight, I'll go and take a piss then or find something to do to pass the time.

[PECOAE]

Muse is awesome.

Especially "Time is Running Out".

And Black Holes & Revelations is awesome.

"Knights of Cydonia", and "Supermassive Black Hole" are AWESOME.

[Jaundice]

In 2 days, I shall be moshing madly to every song I can.

Except Starlight, I'll go and take a piss then or find something to do to pass the time.You'll probably be moshing alone. I don't think the average Muse fan engages in such behavior. Not saying there's anything wrong with doing so, but I doubt there'd be many other participants.

I think BH&R has grown on me to the maximum that it will. I'm prepared to now call it a decent album, with a couple of high points and some really bothersome low points.

[Clunge]

You'll probably be moshing alone. I don't think the average Muse fan engages in such behavior. Not saying there's anything wrong with doing so, but I doubt there'd be many other participants.
That's where you're very very very wrong.

Muse are renowned for having very active moshpits and shizzle.

I lie slightly though, because I like to enjoy the music of my favourite band rather than go nuts, I save that for other gigs.

[Clunge]

Muse is awesome.

Especially "Time is Running Out".

And Black Holes & Revelations is awesome.

"Knights of Cydonia", and "Supermassive Black Hole" are AWESOME.
Hehe, are you new to the band or just a fan?

Anyhoo, get Origin of Symmetry, NOW! (if you don't already).

And download Dead Star as well (again, if you haven't already).

[Virus278]

Anyway you can listen to Glorious here, and download the song if you want.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=97316454! doesnt want to do it.


Thoughts of their Starlight vid?

That track is an extention of BH&R right? When was it released?
- I liked the Starlight music video. That whole singing on a ship thing was pretty cool

[bwnstl]

Glorious is a bonus track on the Japanese release of BH&R.

[Clunge]

Yup, Japanese bonus.

It'll get released in the UK as a b-side sometime I'd think.

[Polyamarous]

You'll probably be moshing alone. I don't think the average Muse fan engages in such behavior. Not saying there's anything wrong with doing so, but I doubt there'd be many other participants.

Nuh-uh. Everyone goes nuts at thier favorite band's gig, and I'm willing to bet alot of money that Muse will be the majority of the crowd's favorite band.

[Duman]

Muse are coming to Holland!!!!!!!!!!!! *celebratory dance*

[Iron Bars]

Saw them live yesterday and they rocked. That would be the show in Den Bosch you going to?

[Collis]

That's where you're very very very wrong.

Muse are renowned for having very active moshpits and shizzle.

I lie slightly though, because I like to enjoy the music of my favourite band rather than go nuts, I save that for other gigs.

Well damn, I got standing tickets for NEC so I'm not gonna enjoy that!

If there is one thing I hate in this world, it is moshers ...

[Shadius]

Well... the crowd's seem to be quite split. Muse appeal to tons of different kinds of people. Load sof people into classical music like them, and I can't see many of them moshing, also a lot of girls go to Muse shows, and equally they're less likely mosh. That said, there is always an element of metal-type fans who enjoy to mosh. You should be able to chose what you want to do at their show though if you pick the right area to stand in. Either way, it will be completely amazing. Muse are a live band through and through.

[Clunge]

Well damn, I got standing tickets for NEC so I'm not gonna enjoy that!

If there is one thing I hate in this world, it is moshers ...
Well... I mean, I don't go to any metally gigs or anything so I'm not quite sure what you might gauge as moshing.

I'm just saying there is plenty of general jumping around and shizzle, not so much of the elbowing and being a spaz which is rubbish and such.

Anyhoo, Muse @ Eden tomorrow.

Full report from me wednesday morning :cool:.

[Magicaltroll]

So, does the new album suck or not?

[Virus278]

So, does the new album suck or not?

Well I liked it - I mean it did have some low points but overall it was pretty enjoyable IMO

[Clunge]

So, does the new album suck or not?
Listen to it and see :thumb: .

I think it's a solid album, but it's not up with OOS or Absolution.

Anyhoo, I'm off to Eden, report tomorrows.

[Shadius]

So, does the new album suck or not?

If you like some space-rock with a bit of pop, electronic, and experimental influences, then it's one hell of an album.

If you really prefer heavy things, then you probably won't like most of it as much. There's nothing on the album that I would consider a low point, though obviously I prefer some songs to others.

[2muchket!]

You'll probably be moshing alone. I don't think the average Muse fan engages in such behavior. Not saying there's anything wrong with doing so, but I doubt there'd be many other participants.

I think BH&R has grown on me to the maximum that it will. I'm prepared to now call it a decent album, with a couple of high points and some really bothersome low points.

Thats where you are wrong my friend. Their's usually moshpits to hyper music, Stockholm Syndrome and I saw moshpits on the new songs Assassin and KoC.

[here comes the bird flu]

Thats where you are wrong my friend. Their's usually moshpits to hyper music, Stockholm Syndrome and I saw moshpits on the new songs Assassin and KoC.
Last time I saw them there were mosh pits to most of the songs.

[Virus278]

So what are all of Muse's b-sides? Eternally Missed, The Groove, The Gallery, Piano Thing, Bedroom Acoustics, Ashamed, Shrinking Universe, Shine, Agitated, Jimmy Kane, Do We Need This?, Pink Ego Box, Con-Science, Map of Your Head, Yes Please, Nishe, Forced In, Execution Commentary, and Nature....Um, is that right? Would the songs off In Your World be considered b-sides? - would Fury and Glorious? Also, is it true Muse did a cover of "Creep" by Radiohead?

[Duman]

Saw them live yesterday and they rocked. That would be the show in Den Bosch you going to?

Yup, tickets are on sale tomorrow at 10 if you're interested.

[Kyle]

3 days till I see Muse!!! :D

[Clunge]

Phew, just got back from Eden. Fooking incredible, way better than Earls Court.

Knights Of Cydonia
Hysteria
Supermassive Black Hole
Showbiz
Map Of The Problematique
Forced In
Bliss (Extended)
Butterflies
Feeling Good
Invincible
Starlight
Plug In Baby
Newborn
-----
Time Is Running Out
Stockholm Syndrome
-----
Take A Bow

My dad was at the back on this grassy hill with his new digi-cam and filmed about 1/2 the gig in TV quality, I'll be uploading it to http://www.muselive.com a bit later if anyone's interested.

Great set, except Feeling Good and Starlight, they were still great fun of course and got a great reaction but I just can't get the thought out of my head that they could have played 2 better songs in place of those two. Still, can't complain because overall it was: *WYTHDGWGD"&GBEBVSABDSfs fas f8a9 3835b3b^EQ%Q%%Q£%%£%!!!!!!nineUDHWR(W(9395 9EJWW98u()u%.

:cool:

[Kyle]

Sounds awesome! I hope they don't open with KOC at Reading, it's a much better closer I think, but whatever they play I'll be happy.

[Clunge]

NO!

Knights Of Cydonia is a brilliant opener, seriously. Take A Bow however, is an AWFUL closing song.

I say close with Assassin :cool:.

It rocked though, should be a similar set at Reading.

[Shadius]

Take a Bow seems like quite a good opener though, what with all the band members making everyone clap along to the intro with the synth going nuts, then everyone get on their instruments for the 2nd half of the song.

Silly ender, I agree. Otherwise, sounds good. I love both Feeling Good and Starlight, and would like to see them live. Glad there was no mediocre Assassin. :p

What happened with Forced In? It's such a random song with like really distorted, hard to decipher vocals and such. Do they play it just like off Hullabaloo?

[Clunge]

Forced In was just cool, I can't really explain how it was played, it just was, on guitar.

[Kyle]

Yeah, Take a Bow is a pretty poor set closer....eugh.

[Moses]

So, does the new album suck or not?
I like it more than the others. I'd say there's one low point in the album.

The other albums were a little less consistent I'd say.

[Duman]

I reckon they should switch KoC with Take A Bow, it's a rocking intro because of the build-up, and KoC just kicks *** as a finisher because of the epic-ness.

[trysthedrummer]

I'm glad they're playing stuff from other other albums as well.

[Collis]

I would love em to open with New Born, but that is because I have not seen Muse live yet and when I often think about their gig I always picture New Born as the opener. As for closing, well, KoC is the most obvious choice but what about Megalomania? Or Citizen Erased ...

I'm glad they're playing stuff from other other albums as well.

Aye for the gigs in November I'm kinda hoping that they do more stuff off Showbiz; especially Cave ... infact, Cave would be an awesome song for closing, especially with the awesome instrumental at the end!

[2muchket!]

Hmm dunno mid set maybe. KoC is the ultimate closer to a show IMO. I really hope they play hyper Music and Stockholm Syndrome when I see 'em. Them and MOTP would be good.

[Clunge]

Take A Bow would rock if they used it like they did Apocalypse Please on the last tour, either as an opener, after Citizen Erased or as the first encore song.

Good news though is that they are kind of doing two encores now, one of two songs, and then another one song one.

[trysthedrummer]

Im off in November to see 'em as well. Cave is a cracker to end it. Who knows! ;)

[2muchket!]

Im off in November to see 'em as well. Cave is a cracker to end it. Who knows! ;)

Where you seeing them ?

[Shadius]

Where you seeing them ?

Manchester for me. 11th? 12th? I've actually forgotten. I think I have tickets for both those dates.

[Clunge]

I'm going to Manchester on the 11th, the other date is the 10th.

See y'all's there :cool:.

[Shadius]

I'm going to Manchester on the 11th, the other date is the 10th.

See y'all's there :cool:.

10th and 11th.. Yeah. I have both. Going to the 11th with my ex now, haha. 10th will be sold for ridiculous amounts, unless I take pity on someone.

Standing on the 11th, bitches \m/

[Clunge]

their new album Sacrament is great
:smash:

Neat.

[Duman]

I got my tickets for the Den Bosch show! Oh man I'm super excited already!

Long live pre-sales :)

[Clunge]

Hoho, cool.

Shaping up to be a great, Musey winter :D.

[trysthedrummer]

Where you seeing them ? Im seeing them at Manchester MEN, saturday 11th.

I'm off with me friend, were at block 103, near the front, to the right if you on stage. I'l wear me big, PINK shirt so you know who I am. hehe jk

But before that, Im off to manchester to see Porcy Tree on 30th sept. Yippee.

[Clunge]

But before that, Im off to manchester to see Porcy Tree on 30th sept. Yippee.
Ditto :cool: .

[2muchket!]

I'm seeing them at Newcastle on the 19th :cool:

[trysthedrummer]

Ah cool.

And then this Thomas Lang clinic (drummer) supposedly going to that in Doncaster, but I dunno, not long now.

[Clunge]

Reading

Knights Of Cydonia
Hysteria
Supermassive Black Hole
Showbiz
Map Of The Problematique
Forced In
Bliss (Extended)
Butterflies And Hurricanes
Feeling Good
Invincible
Starlight
Plug In Baby
Newborn
-----
Time Is Running Out
Stockholm Syndrome
-----
Take A Bow

EXACTLY the same, song for song, riff for riff almost as Eden. It looked awesome and all but they really need to juggle the sets more.

[Sad But True]

Reading

Knights Of Cydonia
Hysteria
Supermassive Black Hole
Showbiz
Map Of The Problematique
Forced In
Bliss (Extended)
Butterflies And Hurricanes
Feeling Good
Invincible
Starlight
Plug In Baby
Newborn
-----
Time Is Running Out
Stockholm Syndrome
-----
Take A Bow

EXACTLY the same, song for song, riff for riff almost as Eden. It looked awesome and all but they really need to juggle the sets more.
Anywhere I can watch the whole thing online? I was blind drunk at the time and fell over a cat so couldn't watch it.

Also; how the hell have I not posted in here before?

Where's the cheapest tickets going?

[Collis]

Anywhere I can watch the whole thing online? I was blind drunk at the time and fell over a cat so couldn't watch it.


Hehe same here actually(Well, I didn't fall over a cat...), hopefully there will be highlights of them at Leeds tonight ...

[ghettoeddo]

Reading

Knights Of Cydonia
Hysteria
Supermassive Black Hole
Showbiz
Map Of The Problematique
Forced In
Bliss (Extended)
Butterflies And Hurricanes
Feeling Good
Invincible
Starlight
Plug In Baby
Newborn
-----
Time Is Running Out
Stockholm Syndrome
-----
Take A Bow

EXACTLY the same, song for song, riff for riff almost as Eden. It looked awesome and all but they really need to juggle the sets more.

looks like a great setlist...but something's really wrong with the order...

[Chilly-Bean-Bop]

Reading

Knights Of Cydonia
Hysteria
Supermassive Black Hole
Showbiz
Map Of The Problematique
Forced In
Bliss (Extended)
Butterflies And Hurricanes
Feeling Good
Invincible
Starlight
Plug In Baby
Newborn
-----
Time Is Running Out
Stockholm Syndrome
-----
Take A Bow

EXACTLY the same, song for song, riff for riff almost as Eden. It looked awesome and all but they really need to juggle the sets more.


That looks OKAY, but I think that it could've been better. I know that they're promoting BHAR, but they should really have more from OoS.

[Sad But True]

They really dont do that much OoS stuff anymore, which is a shame.

Almost as much a shame as when I rip out their inards because they cut citizen erased from the absolution disc.
But im not one for complaining.

[Shadius]

Was the cat OK?



Yeah, that sucks quite a lot. It's not really all that surprising though. They will have played the songs from Origin of Symmetry live so many times now that it's only to be expected that they're going to heavily promo the newer material. If they just played a couple more songs and made them from the earlier albums then that would be better...7/16 from the Black Holes and Revelations is a bit heavy.

I don't know, to everyone who said they don't play much stuff from OoS anymore, from the setlists I saw from the begining of the tour, they were playing more from OoS than Absolution. Which is how it should be, really. I don't think 7 songs from the new album is that heavy, either, really, thats less than half the songs from the new album which they're clearly trying to sell, and more than half of the setlist goes to their other releases, it's not too bad really.

Citizen Erased should still be a staple though, I'll cry if they don't play it in November. They should also drop Forced In, such a random song... There's so many other better songs they could put in it's place.

[trysthedrummer]

I just heard em live over a phone. It was a very crackly Take a Bow, at leeds fest right now.

lol I posted this is in 2 other places.

Yeah I'm hopin' for Citizen Erased in Nov as well. Quality track.

^Cheapest tickets going? Well I paid £27.50 for kinda near front seats which is good I think. Block 103. Cheapest for standing that I could actually GET was £65.

[Shadius]

I paid about £30 for standing per ticket, including booking fees, etc.

[Kyle]

The band was absolutely immense at Reading. I'd go as far to say they're in the top 3 bands I've seen live, everything about the performance was perfect. The only fault was perhaps having Take a Bow as a closer, but other than that the set was great.

Personal highlights were Bliss and KOH.

[PAJJ]

i didn't think they were that good at reading, it was definitley the worst live performance i've seen from them.
although i did think KOC, Showbiz and Hysteria were amazing

[Kyle]

Well I've only seen them once, so have nothing to compare it to! But I was just completely taken in by it all, the music combined with that light show works so well.

[PAJJ]

yeah the light show was good, really well done, i loved those moving screens at the back, it was awesome how they didn't just flash but had different stuff going on, on them.

[Shadius]

I hear Knights of Cydonia had the words in the chorus flashing on the screen, thats cool.

[blizzard]

I'm really hoping that Muse tour Australia in the near future. I really really want to see them playing live.

[Triangle]

Seeing Muse at Reading was simply stunning. Now definitely one of my favourite live bands.

[Polyamarous]

Muse blew me the fuck away at Reading, the shít don't get much better,

[Irons_rock]

Saw them on the highlights of reading festival and they looked like they played pretty awesome.

[Dead Star]

Leeds

Knights Of Cydonia
Hysteria
Supermassive Black Hole
Showbiz
Map Of The Problematique
Forced In
Bliss (Extended)
Citizen Erased
Feeling Good
Invincible
Starlight
Plug In Baby
Newborn
-----
Time Is Running Out
Stockholm Syndrome
-----
Take A Bow

Almost the same as Reading, but there was Citizen Erased instead of Butterflies and HUrricanes, which I think is way better.

Muse owned every other band at Leeds so much, best band I've ever seen.

[Clunge]

I'm really hoping that Muse tour Australia in the near future. I really really want to see them playing live.
You're in luck, they're doing the Big Day Out 2007 tour and will probably include a couple more shows for you Aussies :thumb: .

[Polyamarous]

Leeds

Knights Of Cydonia
Hysteria
Supermassive Black Hole
Showbiz
Map Of The Problematique
Forced In
Bliss (Extended)
Citizen Erased
Feeling Good
Invincible
Starlight
Plug In Baby
Newborn
-----
Time Is Running Out
Stockholm Syndrome
-----
Take A Bow

Almost the same as Reading, but there was Citizen Erased instead of Butterflies and HUrricanes, which I think is way better.

Muse owned every other band at Leeds so much, best band I've ever seen.

Bollocks! I wanted Citizen!

[trysthedrummer]

Here's a (short and crap) clip from Leeds.

http://media.putfile.com/Feeling-Good-40

[Kyle]

mate, the entire set from reading is up on youtube.

[Clunge]

For the Aussies:

'Dave Grohl, of all people, just called Triple J in Australia to tell us that Muse are touring at the end of January.

Sydney-23rd January
Melbourne-30th January

Tickets on sale on September 11. More dates announced soon.'

[Sad But True]

Gah! Citizen Erased > B&H any day.

I've got the set from reading on my PC, all except the 3 encore songs.

[Untitled]

For the Aussies:

'Dave Grohl, of all people, just called Triple J in Australia to tell us that Muse are touring at the end of January.

Sydney-23rd January
Melbourne-30th January

Tickets on sale on September 11. More dates announced soon.'
I might fly down to sydney for that 23rd show.

23rd = Birthday, that would be soooooooooooooo awesome.

[trysthedrummer]

mate, the entire set from reading is up on youtube. If you were reffering to me, then yes I know. The clip was just a short thing taken off a phone.

[Kyle]

If you were reffering to me, then yes I know. The clip was just a short thing taken off a phone.Oh ok, got ya.

[Clunge]

'Muse Frontman: 9/11 An Inside Job

MUSE have cracked America...despite singer Matt Bellamy's outspoken views on George Bush.

The fiery British trio have rocketed to No.9 in the US Billboard charts with their great new album, Black Holes And Revelations.

But Matt - whose passion for conspiracy theories has inspired their songs - has fired a broadside at wily old Dubya in The White House. He said: "I'm fascinated by conspiracy theories. We're surrounded by them.

"Are we really supposed to believe that a man in a cave in Afghanistan managed to orchestrate the most unbelievable attack on the United States of all time?

"I think 9/11 was definitely an inside job done by a group of high-powered people looking for an excuse to invade the Middle East for oil and other natural resources. I think America needed another Pearl Harbor-type event in order to invade Iraq. It gave the US and UK governments the perfect excuse to go to war."

I caught up with the singer when Muse - Dominic Howard, Chris Wolstenholme and Matt - played a sell-out gig at Meadowbank Stadium in Edinburgh last week as part of T on the Fringe. Now the group are coming back north of the border to play the SECC in Glasgow on November 7.

On September 4, new single Starlight is released as the follow-up to their smash hit, Super massive black hole. Muse filmed the Starlight video on a cargo ship off the coast of Los Angeles and it proved a stomachchurning experience....'

----------

Make of that what you will but if you ask me, it's fucking retarded. Bellamy needs his head pulling out of his arse and quickly, it's as if he's trying to do what RATM did, but failing terribly. Conspiracy theories are sure interesting but lending his name the the most ludicrous one IMO, is just plain stupid.

Aliens, evolution, zetas, fair and fine and interesting but he should be kept well away from politics.

[Shadius]

There's a remote possibility that there could be some truth in that. Regardless, he's allowed to express his opinions, it dosn't change anything about anything. He might sound like a crackpot, but the whole oil thing has it's share of "conspiracies" that are most definately going on, in my eyes.

The oil thing is huge already, and it's going to become a massive, world changing issue in the next few years, to the next few decades.

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/

Interesting read if you're wondering what the oil crash could mean, maybe sooner than popular opinion seems to suggest.

[Duman]

Aliens, evolution, zetas, fair and fine and interesting but he should be kept well away from politics.

Yes.

[Clunge]

I know that there is potential an element of truth in all of it but if you ask me, the whole notion of governments conspiring to kill thousands of their own citizens and fellow countrymen is utterly ridiculous.

Until it's proven true, I'm in the skeptics camp.

[Carrionshine]

I know that there is potential an element of truth in all of it but if you ask me, the whole notion of governments conspiring to kill thousands of their own citizens and fellow countrymen is utterly ridiculous.

Until it's proven true, I'm in the skeptics camp.

He was plugging the **** out of this video at a recent show. I personally dont know how much truth this video actually has to it, but it is damn interesting.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947&q=Terrorstorm&hl=en

[Clunge]

Soundbites is a very good way of putting it, I very much doubt we'll see Thom Yorke levels of political activism from Bellamy which gives all his ramblings and beliefs something of a gimmick factor, hence the 'Terror Shock' on his t-shirt - it sounds and looks cool as well as having further connotations.

Hmm.

[Clunge]

He was plugging the **** out of this video at a recent show. I personally dont know how much truth this video actually has to it, but it is damn interesting.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5948263607579389947&q=Terrorstorm&hl=en
That was at Reading/Leeds.

[bwnstl]

the whole notion of governments conspiring to kill thousands of their own citizens and fellow countrymen is utterly ridiculous.

I don't believe in this 9/11 conspiracy bull****, but (pardon me) you're a naive idiot if you really believe governments wouldn't do this. They will, because they HAVE.

[Jimi Haze]

Here's a review I did for another site about the Reading Gig - It was REALLY the best gig I've ever been to, I've never seen a better live band (and yes I saw Pearl Jam the following day).


"After a quite frankly awesome set by the Arctic Monkeys, I was left wondering if my favourite band could still impress me. The wait for them killed me....

Up walked Matt, Dom and Chris to a huge crowd roar and breaking into Knights of Cydonia which was unbelievable, the power, the aggression....that riff at the end. The lighting automatically struck me as being amazing too, the best by far out of any band at the festival. Also Chris's backing vocals were nearly twice as good as they were at Shepherds Bush and IMO that's the best performance of the song I've seen.

Then Hysteria where as per usual the crowd went a bit crazy, once again so much energy, power and nearly perfectly delivered. Then they broke into SuperMassive Black Hole which was even better than on the record, nearly the whole crowd was dancing around. Then came an old crowd favourite and old closer Showbiz, followed by Map of the Problematique, much like SMBH the crowd was dancing along to a Faithless esque tune and once again much better live than on record.

Then came a small instrumental of Forced In off the Hullabaloo soundtrack as the crowd calmed down, ready to be hit by the epic Bliss, still one of the best Muse live songs there is. This was followed by Bellamy's precision piano playing in Butterflies and Hurricanes and the Mega-Phone mastery of Feeling Good both accepted really well by the crowd. Invincible had Bellamy breaking into 'Bellamy Mode' with the abuse of his new touch pad on the guitar, whilst not known as much by the crowd it was still quite a popular song especially when Matt broke into a quite amazing tapping arpeggio solo. This was followed by Starlight, the band's newest single with the whole crowd clapping along to the infectious drum beat and singing along to the catchy piano lines - once again stage shows and performance prevailed as lights and small firework showers lit up the stage.

Possibly the 3 biggest Muse songs waited to be played next and I don't think Matt needed to sing the chorus to the next song Plug in Baby, always such a hit at gigs this was no different. People have been saying that Muse are not quite as exciting stage performance as they were a few tours back, which is probably the case as they are maturing, but seeing Matt dance around in circles whilst playing the opening PiB riff showed they still definetly have it. This was followed by the epic New Born with the whole audience clapping along to the opening PIano then a frenzy inducing when the main riff kicked in. It ended and they walked off stage...

Only to be greeted with 'We Want More' or 'We Want Muse' chants from the crowd instantly. This led to Time is Running Out, possibly the bands best known song, with energy flowing through the crowd even after a full hour or so of Muse the crowd action began to increase. Then came, (in my opinion) the best Muse Live song ever written, the old closer, Stockholm Syndrome and whilst not playing with as much power and aggression as when ending a set with it (think Glastonbury and Earls Court in 2004) it still was clear this song drove the crowd insane with thousands of people jumping around to the main riff and singing desperately 'This is the last time I will forget you'. I will not be forgetting this gig for a long time, that's for sure.

Ending with the highly political Take a Bow went down well, however not quite as well in my opinion at least as if they closed with Knights of Cydonia, but then again it was hard for me to concentrate properly after hearing Stockholm Syndrome before. Again the stage lit up, this time with flames.

I'd seen Muse DVDs, Videos and Bootlegs of live performances and believed why they are considered to be one of the best live bands in the world today. After seeing them on Saturday night, nothing will ever change my mind, they made my festival for me and am seriously looking forward to the Wembley Gig.

10/10"


I really can't wait untill Wembley :D

[PAJJ]

meh still didn't they were that good for them.


I don't believe in this 9/11 conspiracy bull****, but (pardon me) you're a naive idiot if you really believe governments wouldn't do this. They will, because they HAVE.
just curious as it seems like an intriguing topic, is there like a wiki article or a particular incident i could read about this, other then 911 conspiracies?

[Moses]

Heh, Matt Bellamy's arguement is pretty dumb. Just because Osama's a guy in a cave in Afghanistan doesn't mean he can't be a successful terrorist. Besides I believe that Osama owned up to the actions too and since he hasn't been caught, that leads me to believe that he's not just posing for the U.S. Government.

[Kyle]

Cool review man, I pretty much agree with you. One of the best gigs i've seen, and I can't wait to see them at Cardiff.

[bwnstl]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theories_about_9/11

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Huge article about the many conspiracy theories right there. Cool review of the gig as well man. I'm still hoping to see them later on this year, but I'm not sure that I'd be able to make it even if I get tickets. :-/ Stockholm Syndrome should still be the set closer though. That's pretty much the single best song imaginable to close a gig with.

He's talking about things the government has done against their own people.
And to answer, they have a long history of testing drugs and chemicals and poisons (basically anything they don't know what it will do) on their own people.
They tested Agent Orange over (I believe) California to find out what it would do.
They injected Syphilis into African American men without their knowledge to see the effects of it.
Many soldiers that fought in the Gulf War were injected with a myriad of "vaccines" that led them to have higher mortality rates than Vietnam veterans.

I'm just saying, government aren't above ****ing with their own citizens to achieve whatever ends they want.

[Kyle]

Is that a new Greenday album I smell?

[PAJJ]

He's talking about things the government has done against their own people.
And to answer, they have a long history of testing drugs and chemicals and poisons (basically anything they don't know what it will do) on their own people.
They tested Agent Orange over (I believe) California to find out what it would do.
They injected Syphilis into African American men without their knowledge to see the effects of it.
Many soldiers that fought in the Gulf War were injected with a myriad of "vaccines" that led them to have higher mortality rates than Vietnam veterans.

I'm just saying, government aren't above ****ing with their own citizens to achieve whatever ends they want.

i never thought they were above it, just wanted to read about actual incidents, rather just a general overview of the idea, thanks for the info, i'll look into it myself a bit more, and thanks for the wiki link Med.

[Amphetamine]

Muse used to be one of my favorite bands ever, but I rarely listen to them now. It's not that I'm against bands expanding their audiences and getting greater numbers of fans, but a mass following gathered after a lackluster album like their recent one really bugs me and kind of ruins the band for me a little. Origin of Symmetry for life.

[Chilly-Bean-Bop]

It's not that bad an album.

Their older stuff is wonderful, but they haven't gotten worse.

There are too many fans, but no one can do anything about that. =\

[Amphetamine]

The new album is just far too simplistic for me to like. Absolution was such a step up from Origin that I was so stoked for something just mindblowingly amazing and they release this really simplistic album.

[Chilly-Bean-Bop]

Well, I agree with you about it being simplistic. But it still is a really good album. It's catchy, and you see their talent in it.

[Clunge]

There are too many fans, but no one can do anything about that. =\
That attitude is just silly really, how can a band have too many fans?

Admittedly, BH&R though was a letdown for me after 3 years of waiting, it has some brilliant tracks, Take A Bow, Supermassive, MoTP, City Of Delusion, Knights and Hoodoo but the rest of it feels so half-arsed in comparison.

The album does sound WAY better if you blast it into your head through headphones :D.

Anyhoo, new b-side and Starlight single is out today people, I shall upload it as soon as I can get my hands on it.

[Shadius]

The new album is just far too simplistic for me to like. Absolution was such a step up from Origin that I was so stoked for something just mindblowingly amazing and they release this really simplistic album.

Really simplistic? lol, not really. The layers and synth and chords and arpeggio's and melodies and harmonies that went into the new album arn't exactly "really simplistic". I think what you mean is that the riffs are more simplistic than previous efforts... but whatever.

The music on the album isn't simplistic to the point where I would consider it bland, far from it, really. Admittedly, I would have liked a couple of kick *** riff songs on there, and that would have meant the album would have been a 5 star album for me in all honesty. There's a lot more that goes into making music than how many notes are played in a riff.

And Absolution was hardly a huge step up from Origin. Origin contains the definitive Muse songs on it, while Absolution contained a majority of good songs, but nothing took a lot of them over the edge on the album - live, many of them were made better. I love Absolution, but even the band admit that they wished they'd spent more time on some songs on it to make them better.

I'm going to buy the Starlight single today, I listened to Easily on Youtube, and it seemed decent. Best b-side yet maybe? Better than Crying Shame, maybe better than Glorious too, IMO, but we shall see.

[Kyle]

If it wasn't for the new album, I probably wouldn't even like Muse. I'm not sure if it's my favorite Muse album, but it's certainly very close, there are so many moments of pop perfection. I can understand that the things alot of people love about Muse are to do with experimentation, but for me, they do a much better job when they're just trying to write fun/catchy songs. For example, SMBH isn't exactly their most wild of tracks, but it's simplicity and pure danceablitly, makes it my favorite Muse single to date.

Edit: And for the record, I think cramming a record full of typical Muse riffs, is way more simplistic than the approach they have gone for.

[Clunge]

SMBH has officially become my favourite BH&R track, it's so phat :cool:.

[Kyle]

It's strange that a song that has been so overplayed, can still hold it's original appeal.

[Shadius]

I'm a little bored of it. I've heard it maybe.. 40 times or more. I'd love to see it live and stuff, but I'd only listen to it in the context of the album now. It's a great pop song, but ultimately, as with most pop-songs it's more disposable than a lot of other tracks over time.

[Kyle]

Haha, it's funny how me and Shadius' oppinions of SMBH, basically translate to the 2 general oppinions on the album as a whole.

[Shadius]

Haha. I do feel though, that the album is Muse's 2nd best. It's more consistant than Absolution and Showbiz. There's a lot of tracks on the album that arn't disposable pop songs in the slightest. I don't know how someone can say a song like City of Delusion is "simplistic", or Knights of Cydonia, or even Invincible, it has a damned awesome tapping solo in it and a cool riff, despite the fact a lot of it is made up of chords.

[Clunge]

O M F G.

Whos' heard the hidden track on the Starlight DVD then?

I imagine that that number is zero so here it is: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=B2C7AA8E4DAD3B1D

It's only 32 seconds :lol:.

This is why Muse are amazing.

[Kyle]

That's my new favorite Muse track :lol:

I love the fun side of Matt Bellamy.

[Clunge]

Ditto, it's like Execution Commentary meets The Darkness :lol:.

Best BH&R era song, fo' sho'.

[sobelecta]

Muse are kinda over rated...

[Clunge]

Muse are kinda over rated...
...And?

[PAJJ]

that song was ****ing brilliant, i wished they'd play it live

[Kyle]

http://www.nme.com/news/muse/24200

Muse on the Mercury Prize.

[Clunge]

Yup, and more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPY3-bd3vvo

Loaded gits.

[Shadius]

Haha, I love Muse. I wonder why Chris rarely ever seems to do interviews. Dom always seems like the most confident interview-wise.

Muse are kinda over rated...

Well, they're rated highly because they're amazing. They have quite a huge share of haters though too, so I wouldn't say they were generally overrated.

Oh, I need the damn b-side, someone upload it. I got the DVD instead of getting both like I did with SMBH. I need to save my cash for Uni, damnit, and 2 quid just for a b-side seemed too much.

[Jimi Haze]

:lol: I love it how people say 'a bands got too many fans'

Surely that's a good thing? And if you're taking that stance maybe you're one of those 'too' many fans as of course you're not from Devon like the band lolz.

Easily is another brilliant track, not quite as good as Crying Shame IMO though but I just love something about that song.

About the Absolution thing, I think BHAR is a better album personally - I wouldn't say there is a bad song on the entire album with the only slight let down being 'A Soldiers Poem' but I mean....they had to do something like that. I find the album a lot more exciting that Absolution that seemed to be filled with typical Album tracks.......that said Stockholm Syndrome when performed live seems to be Muses's best track to me...although KNights and Plug in Baby/Citizen Erased/Bliss come close.

Why does everyone forget how bloody awesome SHowbiz is...

OoS is still my favourite album out of the lot....but Muse havn't made a bad album IMO.

[bwnstl]

could someone upload crying shame and easily?

[here comes the bird flu]

could someone upload crying shame and easily?
No because that is illegal according to Muse

[Shadius]

No because that is illegal according to Muse

Er... Muse have always been fine with bootlegging and music sharing. It's actually illegal though, but not according to Muse. I need Easily still though.

[bwnstl]

No because that is illegal according to Muse

Har har, you're funny.

[Clunge]

I'll get Easily and Crying Shame up later today :) .

[Shadius]

Got Easily. My fav b-side so far from BH&R, I really like it. Maybe should have been on the album actually, if it was a extended on a bit. Fits well with Starlight as a b-side though.

Both of those songs seem to be extending the "Bliss" sound. With the synth effects and the fuzzy bass, and the catchyness and dancyness. A lot of BH&R is an extension of that sound though really, like Map of the Promlematique and such.

[Clunge]

Starlight could well have been my favourite Muse song if they had fit it into a more Bliss style framework.

The synth + rock out bit is absolutely amazing but the rest of it makes me want to puke.

Anyhoo, Easily is sounding good, I still have heard a proper mp3 of it yet but that will soon be sorted.

[Kyle]

Starlight could well have been my favourite Muse song if they had fit it into a more Bliss style framework.

The synth + rock out bit is absolutely amazing but the rest of it makes me want to puke.I was thinking the exact same thing today, except it hardly makes me want to puke. I do like the song, it's just nothing on what it could have been. It's actually really good live though, what with the fireworks and stuff.

[Jimi Haze]

I was thinking the exact same thing today, except it hardly makes me want to puke. I do like the song, it's just nothing on what it could have been. It's actually really good live though, what with the fireworks and stuff.
You were impressed by that too?

Take a Bow with flames worked well too I think :D Although......it so shoulda been Knights of Cydonia to end :(

I love Starlight, I like the fact it's commercial, it's so....catchy and I'll end up singing along to it for days upon end.

[Shadius]

I enjoyed just playing the vocals to Starlight on the DVD and singing along a-cappella. The melody is really good, and the backing is so catchy too. I do like it when it rocks out, the song just full of hooks really. Whether you like the melody, the synth the piano the bass, the guitars, the distortion in the chorus, or that higher register singing in the bridge putting the song over the edge.

[Kyle]

Yeah, I like the pop sound to Starlight, but it lacks the Muse edge to be one of their best songs. Whilst I like the pop sound to the whole album, most of it still contains their experimental spark, but I don't really sense that in starlight. It does however sound orgasmic when the distortion kicks in, I only wish they made mroe of the song somehow. The vocals in the track are really good aswell.

Btw, do you frequent the Readingfestivalonline forum?

edit: to Jimihaze

[Shadius]

Whats the bets that Invincible will be the 3rd UK single?

[Kyle]

It better not be, one of my least favorite songs on the album. I'd love them to release Exo Politics, but it might not be the best decision in terms of style. Do they not plan to release KoC over here?