BEST ROCK ALBUMS OF 2005 *nominees*

[rsa5387]

THE BEST ROCK ALBUMS OF THE YEAR NOMINEE LIST

as voted by me (originally) and others...

nominate (individually or group) or axe (unanimously ONLY) albums on/not on this list...updated frequently.

a poll will open jan 1st with a compiled top 100 list (10 polls) and from there a cut to the top 50 list poll will be added 2 weeks later, cut to top 25 list next week, and a top 10 list following week with album of the year!
Who'll make it? It's up to you!

Nominees this is a VERY small list that needs growing...so feel free to add more or post why one of the nominees should NOT be a nominee

*THIS IS THE OFFICIAL LIST AND IS BEING UPDATED CONSTANTLY...REFER TO THIS LIST ONLY*


The Mars Volta - Frances The Mute *^SUPPORT*
System Of A Down - Mesmerize/Hypnotize *^SUPPORT*
Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake And Its Morning
Death Cab For Cutie - Plans
Coheed & Cambria - Good Apollo I'm Burning Star Vol 1...
The White Stripes-Get Behind Me Satan *^SUPPORT*
Opeth - Ghost Reveries
Porcupine Tree - Deadwing *MOVED* *^SUPPORT*

Dark Tranquillity - Character *NEW ADDED*
Arch Enemy - Doomsday Machine *NEW ADDED*
Novembers Doom - The Pale Haunt Departure *NEW ADDED*
God Forbid - IV:Constitution Of Treason *NEW ADDED*
Arcturus - Sideshow Symphonies *NEW ADDED*
Dredg - Catch Without Arms *NEW ADDED*

Thrice - Vheissu
Circa Survive - Juturna
Foo Fighers - In Your Honor
Fall Of Troy - Doppelganger
The Receiving End Of Sirens - Between The Heart And The Synapse

Nightwish-Once
Kamelot-The Black Halo
Necrophangist-Epitaph
Still Remains - Of Love And Lunacy
Porcupine Tree - Deadwing
Chidos - All's Well That Ends Well
Trivium - Ascendancy
Coldplay - X & Y

Dream Theater - Octavarium
Blackfield - Blackfield
Franz Ferdinand - You Could Have It So Much Better
Bear Vs. Shark - Terrorhawk
Babyshambles - Down In Albion
Our Lady Peace - Healthy In Paranoid Times




*FINAL ADDS END DEC 31, COMPILED 100 POLL OPENS JAN 1ST*

[Prince of Darkness]

This thread is to good to say no. What is DMB doing at worst album? die please

[Schyma]

Is this mod aprooved?

[Prince of Darkness]

I bet it isn't. I see a closing on the horizon

[Six Foot Revolver]

I hope not, this has potential to be great.

[Prince of Darkness]

I hope not, this has potential to be great.


You hope it DOESN'T have mod approval?
Do I sense a rebellious attitude towards mods? or is it just me?

[Six Foot Revolver]

I see a closing on the horizon
I was refering to this.

I'm too cool to be a rebel.

[rsa5387]

DMB is in the list because Stand Up is a HORRIBLE album...their other albums are great though (with the exception of Everyday).

How do i get this thread approved by a moderator? Sorry.

[Silenius]

You hope it DOESN'T have mod approval?
Do I sense a rebellious attitude towards mods? or is it just me?
He hopes it wont get closed.

EDIT: to get approval by mod ask in here:

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213795

[blackthorne]

out of that list it has to be black halo by kamelot

[rsa5387]

Ok...I will take that into consideration...if a few more people agree it will be axed...thanks for your input...have any nominees?

[Silenius]

Kamelot - Black Halo or Nightwish - Once

[Prince of Darkness]

I'd go for The Mars Volta

[rsa5387]

hmm nobody here are big power metal fans...neither am i...they do have some good songs but the lyrics are weak and vocals annoying...the instrumental quality is excellent on both albums though as are some of the songs...they will be axed...anyone disagree?

[rsa5387]

*EDIT* Kamelot and Nightwish have been removed

[Jude]

I like how you listed the genres of the bands you don't like as 'crap' and 'whiny rock.'

I also like how your personal preference determined which albums are in the 'top tier' or whatever.

Anyway, Deadwing is hands down the best album this year.

[Skit]

SOAD for the win for sure!

[placidthought]

Was "Get Behind Me Satan" released this year? If so, I'd like to see it up there.

[Silenius]

hmm nobody here are big power metal fans...neither am i...they do have some good songs but the lyrics are weak and vocals annoying...the instrumental quality is excellent on both albums though as are some of the songs...they will be axed...anyone disagree?
Did you completely disregard my post when you said no-one likes power metal?

EDIT: The first two votes were power metal... wtf? Why'd you say no-one votes on it?

[rsa5387]

need a minimum of 100 nominees with support from other members to open a poll...please post some nominees you think are worthy that are NOT on this list...thanks

[Bartender]

hmm nobody here are big power metal fans...neither am i...they do have some good songs but the lyrics are weak and vocals annoying...the instrumental quality is excellent on both albums though as are some of the songs...they will be axed...anyone disagree?

You don't like power metal, so power metal albums are automatically out?

Also, the 11th of December is plenty far from the end of 2005.

[PepsiMetal]

System of a down Hypnotize is best album I've heard this year. Although it's nu metal not rock. But yea..

[Jude]

FRONT-RUNNERS
System Of A Down - Mesmerize/Hypnotize (Heavy/Progressive)
Foo Fighters - In Your Honor (Alternative Rock)


Plus what is THIS crap doing in 'front-runners?'

[Silenius]

You don't like power metal, so power metal albums are automatically out?
Seems like thats the case... :rolleyes:

[Prince of Darkness]

Was "Get Behind Me Satan" released this year? If so, I'd like to see it up there.

i agree. Arguably their best release thus far.

Plus what is THIS crap doing in 'front-runners?'.

Shame on you.

[rsa5387]

high voltage adc

sorry...they will be re-instated...i thought u were voting to remove them from the list

*EDIT* Nightwish-Once, Kamelot-The Black Halo, The White Stripes-Get Behind Me Satan ADDED *EDIT

[rsa5387]

Jude:

System Of A Down seems to be LIKED by a majority of members currently browsing this thread...it stays for now

Foo Fighters has no feedback...if others believe it should NOT be on the list...it will be removed

sorry about the power metal comment...i was being a hypocrite...sorry

[PepsiMetal]

Foo fighters shouldn't be in top runners. Soad should definetely be there.

[Silenius]

high voltage adc

sorry...they will be re-instated...i thought u were voting to remove them from the list

*EDIT* Nightwish-Once, Kamelot-The Black Halo, The White Stripes-Get Behind Me Satan ADDED *EDIT
'k, thanks, I was a little confused but I guess that explains it.

[Jude]

Foo fighters shouldn't be in top runners. Soad should definetely be there.
The new stuff sounds basically the same as the old stuff. Their singer is incredibly talented...what else is good about the band?

[rsa5387]

no problem

*comments will be added periodically to the list in regard to comments by browsers*

[rsa5387]

FOO FIGHTERS *IN QUESTION*

where should it be moved...or should it be AXED altogether ?

[Jude]

FOO FIGHTERS *IN QUESTION*

where should it be moved...or should it be AXED altogether ?
Axed. It's totally generic and blah.

Deadwing needs to be in the top tier. Dredg's Catch Without Arms needs to be in there too.

[rsa5387]

*EDIT*

Foo Fighters - In Your Honor AXED
Porcupine Tree - Deadwing MOVED
Dredg's - Catch Withour Arms ADDED

[Prince of Darkness]

The new stuff sounds basically the same as the old stuff. Their singer is incredibly talented...what else is good about the band?

Foo Fighters or SOAD?

*EDIT*

Foo Fighters - In Your Honor AXED
Porcupine Tree - Deadwing MOVED
Dredg's - Catch Withour Arms ADDED

You can't just axe something cause someone doesn't like the album. What if someone else likes it? Whats the point of polls then?

[PepsiMetal]

The new stuff sounds basically the same as the old stuff. Their singer is incredibly talented...what else is good about the band?

Daron writes good riffs, John is a good drummer and has used lots of good beats in their music, Serj's vocals are incredible, although it is a shame Daron sung more on this album than serj did. They've made lots of great songs on mezmerize/hypnotize albums. Mezmerize doesn't resemble their earlier work at all. Hypnotype does a bit more, but it is different.

And the album is rated pretty high on sputnik music.

[Silenius]

Add Arcturus-Sideshow Symphonies. Brilliant stuff.

[Jude]

Foo Fighters or SOAD?



You can't just axe something cause someone doesn't like the album. What if someone else likes it? Whats the point of polls then?
What's the point of this thread anyway? Isn't there already one?

I was referring to SOAD but I guess what I said goes for them both :)

Edit: Oh, so there isn't one. I must have remembered wrong.

[rsa5387]

From now on albums will not be AXED without a UNANIMOUS vote...Foo Fighers reinstated to the second tier

HIGH VOLTAGE: What tier would you like Arcturus in...what genre is it?

[Bartender]

Could you please explain:

- why the different tiers?
- how someone's in one tier instead of another
- why now, before the year is even finished?

[PepsiMetal]

- why now, before the year is even finished?

Yea, that's the most important one. There will be more albums coming out in the next month or so.

[Britton]

Maybe he means up to this point?

[Prince of Darkness]

What's the point of this thread anyway? Isn't there already one?

I was referring to SOAD but I guess what I said goes for them both :)

The n00b is wasting its time

As for your SOAD rant(??), I prefer the new(Mezmerize+Hypnotize) albums over the others. Their early work was more just mindless crazy Rock. The new albums are a lot more structured and I like that.

[Bartender]

Yea, that's the most important one.

Yes tis.

Maybe he means up to this point?

If so, what's the point?

[Jom]

Could you please explain:

- why the different tiers?
- how someone's in one tier instead of another
- why now, before the year is even finished?

Beat me to it.

EDIT:

Maybe he means up to this point.
So what's the point?

Drat. E-words removed from mouth.

///

Anyway, I would add a bunch of "third-tier" albums for you, but again, why are there tiers when everyone is going to vote for the "front-runners?"

[Silenius]

From now on albums will not be AXED without a UNANIMOUS vote...Foo Fighers reinstated to the second tier

HIGH VOLTAGE: What tier would you like Arcturus in...what genre is it?
the genre's avante-garde.

Does the tier matter?

[rsa5387]

the FIRST tier are TOP-RUNNERS or albums I and others felt were the creme of the crop so far this year...if enough people disagree with any albums in the top-runners category...appropriate action will be taken (MOVED OR AXED)

Second Tier are just the rest of the albums...all NEW albums will be added to the SECOND TIER and can move there way up to the TOP-RUNNERS with enough support.

[Jom]

the FIRST tier are TOP-RUNNERS or albums I and others felt were the creme of the crop so far this year...if enough people disagree with any albums in the top-runners category...appropriate action will be taken (MOVED OR AXED)

Second Tier are just the rest of the albums...all NEW albums will be added to the SECOND TIER and can move there way up to the TOP-RUNNERS with enough support.

So wait, the tiers are made based on your opinion :-?

[Wish]

Pfft... where's IV: Constitution Of Treason?

[Prince of Darkness]

From now on albums will not be AXED without a UNANIMOUS vote...Foo Fighers reinstated to the second tier

HIGH VOLTAGE: What tier would you like Arcturus in...what genre is it?

You're jumping around with your failed ideas. Axing this, Adding that. Are you ok?:rolleyes:

[rsa5387]

*EDIT* The Poll Opens January 1st

I DO mean releases of 2005 ONLY...January releases will not count as 2005 releases.

[rsa5387]

ALL ALBUMS HAVE BECOME RANKLESS...A level playing field has been created

[Cain]

Personally, I think this needs a LOT more direction. My advice would be for you to get in contact with a mod or user who has experience running these kinds of polls. It should be becoming clear to you by now that they are much harder to run than they might at first appear. It's simply too early to tell what the top releases are, and to be frank, you can't just axe, move, etc. just based on what you think, what individual people think, etc. There has to be a system, and I see a system developing, to be sure, but it's still far short of what is necessary.

EDIT: This is not a bad thread idea but it needs much more work to operate smoothly and fairly. I don't see this happening at present.

[Reywas]

I didn't realize Korn released the new album.

[rsa5387]

thanks for your input...if the thread gets out of hand...I will hand it over to a mod...I just wanted to compile an accurate people's choice of the top 10 rock albums of the year...but your comments are appreciated.

[rsa5387]

*edit*

Albums Are "rankless"
Wost Albums Of The Year Section Removed
Poll Dates Updated

[Jom]

thanks for your input...if the thread gets out of hand...I will hand it over to a mod...I just wanted to compile an accurate people's choice of the top 10 rock albums of the year...but your comments are appreciated.

So wait, you're asking for the top ten rock/metal albums, yet you have different genres added to the list? And this tier thing still makes no sense. And a lot of your genres are incorrect... it would be best if you removed them altogether.

EDIT: as Cain is saying, this isn't exactly organized.

[Prince of Darkness]

thanks for your input...if the thread gets out of hand...I will hand it over to a mod...I just wanted to compile an accurate people's choice of the top 10 rock albums of the year...but your comments are appreciated.

I think we all agree that it's already past 'out of hand'

[Silenius]

So wait, you're asking for the top ten rock/metal albums, yet you have different genres added to the list? And this tier thing still makes no sense.

EDIT: as Cain is saying, this isn't exactly organized.
Sub-genres perhaps?:confused:

[Cain]

thanks for your input...if the thread gets out of hand...I will hand it over to a mod...I just wanted to compile an accurate people's choice of the top 10 rock albums of the year...but your comments are appreciated.

No, I understand. :) I'm pleased that you didn't react harshly to what I had to say. As I said, this idea isn't bad, but you're a new user and I'm just wagering that you haven't done many of these before; that said, you did MUCH more than most new users would have in the attempt to make it fair. You also listened to the input and advice of the more experienced users to edit your original form. These are all good things. Don't worry about it dude.

[Reywas]

Why don't we all nominate our top 5 and than see who the frontrunners are.

[rsa5387]

ALL the albums fall under ROCK...the genre is there just for description...

*ADDED* IV: Constitution Of Treason

[Prince of Darkness]

Why don't we all nominate our top 5 and than see who the frontrunners are.

To the Batmobile!

[Shattered_Future]

Once was released in 2004.

A few other good choices:

Dark Tranquillity - Character
Arch Enemy - Doomsday Machine
Novembers Doom - The Pale Haunt Departure

[Reywas]

To the Batmobile!

damn :naughty:

[Cain]

Jom is also correct. There are a lot of elements here that really, although they may have seemed like good or even necessary elements in the name of fairness, have no place in a poll of the type you're hoping to implement, like this "tier" thing.

I almost feel bad for this, heh. Surely you all concede that rsa made a much more honest effort than most new users do.

But, that being said, I think this should be closed.

[rsa5387]

*ADDED*

Dark Tranquillity - Character
Arch Enemy - Doomsday Machine
Novembers Doom - The Pale Haunt Departure

[rsa5387]

*EDIT*

"Genre" TAGS REMOVED

[rsa5387]

*message*

Next Live Update Will Take Place At 6pm...signing Off

[naboo]

Nevermore - This Godless Endeavor

Add that; it's my favorite

[Prince of Darkness]

omgz!!!1! tripple post! I hope that concludes your infamous run of double posts

[Six Foot Revolver]

Why don't we all nominate our top 5 and than see who the frontrunners are.
This would definately be the best direction to take it.

[rsa5387]

all new requests and goings on will take effect on the front page at 6 pm eastern time...thanks...nevermore will be added as well naboo :)

[rsa5387]

what im doing here is compiling a list of 100 albums...there will def be OVER 100 so some will be voted off through a poll...than the 100 albums will be divided into 10 different polls and voted on...the top 5 from each poll will progress to the top 50 (5 polls)...top 4 from each poll will progress to top 20 (2 polls)...top 5 each will be the TOP TEN of the year...a final poll will commence with the TOP ALBUM...if you guys think thats not a good method...tell me

[rsa5387]

update 6pm out

[rsa5387]

keep this thread alive?

[Silenius]

Just let the thread be and when its 6pm just post "Bump".

[Det_Nosnip]

Nightwish-Once


That was a 2004 release. I don't know about the rest, but don't you think you should at least research some of these to make sure that they're eligible?

Anyways, my picks:

Elfonia - This Sonic Landscape
Opeth - Ghost Reveries
Nevermore - This Godless Endeavor
Arcturus - Sideshow Symphonies
Porcupine Tree - Deadwing
Dark Tranquility - Character
Stream of Passion - Embrace the Storm
Strapping Young Lad - Alien
After Forever - Remagine
Naglfar - Pariah
Ulver - Blood Inside

[rsa5387]

research will not be conducted...this is an OPEN nomination process...the polls will show who are the best. noms will be added at 6 pm.

[lightningmetal666]

I would love to see Strapping Young Lad's Album Alien added to this list.

[something erotic]

Opeth - Ghost Reveries
Nevermore - This Godless Endeavor
Porcupine Tree - Deadwing
Dream Theater - Octavarium
Nine Inch Nails - [With Teeth]