Maybe it's just my scene but...

[echos]

I have an serious, honest question to ask...hopefully the thread won't get closed. So, at the hardcore shows around here everyone dances, i don't have a problem with it. Now when the tempo of the song speeds up, and becomes like a stereotypical punk rock beat (i'm mainly talking about the drums) every one just stops...they don't mosh or anything. I find it kind of a downer, because i love moshing and a fast paced song always feels like it's overflowing with energy to me.

Can anyone give a real reason for this? Do the kids just not like mosh pits...

[kingdead]

Que stagedives and singalongs.

[Scabies]

coz moshin is totally not fun its all about actin like ninja turtles to dull breakdowns

[k1ckthecat]

it's not just your scene, i think it's because it takes too much energy for these people to dance and mosh all night and once a really fast beat comes on everyone's too beat to go that fast. or maybe they're all idiots i don't know.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

I've come to think that windmills/spinning is gay as hell. Shows should be limited to sing alongs, stage dives and two steps.

[atreyuxcore]

because cetain parts of the music are better for dancing

[shane italian]

I would much rather see some dudes throwing windmills into other dudes than see 150 Halocaust victims with nice hair two stepping.

[chips88]

I like bands who can do both, even I can't do either.

[Tyler]

circle pits need to occur more often.

[shane italian]

Circle pits are gay most of the time to be honest. Just people...running in a circle. Start a ruckus, run into people, push somebody down, kick every ****er you see standing still.

[Skidmark Steve]

Circle pits are gay most of the time to be honest. Just people...running in a circle. Start a ruckus, run into people, push somebody down, kick every ****er you see standing still.
circle pits can be real fun or real sucky. it all depends on the speed of the circle and the amount of people in it

[NewKindofArmy03]

Circle pits are the best.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

circle pits need to occur more often.
Circle pits are the best.


Circle pits are gay most of the time to be honest. Just people...running in a circle. Start a ruckus, run into people, push somebody down, kick every ****er you see standing still.
You fail Hardcore Punk Ethics 101.

[OMGaDINOSAUR]

Because two stepping and the like is much more fun! I think so at least.

[victimofreality]

Circle pits.

At the house show I went to in provo, they did a circle pit going through the halls which was lame because when you were in the hall, it was just like running in a line.

[Lazybassplr56]

I was at a show and this guy who was like 3'4 tall was going around the pit punching peoples knees. He got so wasted that night. He passed out in front of the club and his friends just picked him and left. It was a good night.

[shane italian]

You fail Hardcore Punk Ethics 101.No, I'm just not into hardcore marry go rounds.

[StruckEverywhere]

Hahaha, nice.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

No, I'm just not into hardcore marry go rounds.
hardcore windmills are more fun?

[shane italian]

hardcore windmills are more fun?Don't get me wrong, I love circle pits when they're not playing follow the leader. And windmills are still pretty fun if you ask me.

[Tyler]

how do you not 'play follow the leader' in a circle pit?

[withering_rose]

uh.. can someone give me a link or explain what the different pits and what windmills and the like are?

I got into hardcore recently and only know moshpits and dance pits (slam dancing)

EDIT: oh yeah, and two step

EDIT 2: I mean, what is two step?

[Tyler]

just go to a hardcore show and see.

[Floydfanatic]

I was at a show and this guy who was like 3'4 tall was going around the pit punching peoples knees. He got so wasted that night. He passed out in front of the club and his friends just picked him and left. It was a good night.

ah hardcore midget

that's pretty sweet

[withering_rose]

just go to a hardcore show and see.
that'd work except for the fact that I live in ARI-****ING-ZONA!

this state is musically retarded, not many HxC bands come through here, and we have no local hardcore/emo/screamo bands. the only good hardcore band to come from this ****ty desert is where eagles dare!

[OI! to the World!]

dancing is gay circle pits stage dives sing alongs and lets not forget pogos

[Floydfanatic]

i'm lucky, i live right near boston, aaand if i'm lazy i've always got bravo ****ing bravo in Nh

[tell.me.something.typical]

There's just something about "punk beats" that sucks; well thats how I think. I like to hear crazy drums like: Saosin, Senses Fail, From First To Last, etc.-those are the best one to dance to but nevertheless, I will still try to dance even if the song sucks because I love to be a terrible dancer.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

You sound like those kids I hate to see at shows.

[OI! to the World!]

There's just something about "punk beats" that sucks; well thats how I think. I like to hear crazy drums like: Saosin, Senses Fail, From First To Last, etc.-those are the best one to dance to but nevertheless, I will still try to dance even if the song sucks because I love to be a terrible dancer.

wow you make me want to blow my brains out

[chips88]

wow you make me want to blow your brains out

fix'd. why should you die for his ignorance? should be the other way around.

[Floydfanatic]

true dat

[cbmartinez]

So what if he wants to dance to it? That's the music he listens too and if he wants to get into it and dance, who are you to criticize him?

[OMGaDINOSAUR]

dancing is gay circle pits stage dives sing alongs and lets not forget pogos

Pogos? Are you serious?!

[atreyuxcore]

hardcore windmills are more fun?
i dont know about yuou but i dont go to shows where kids windmill

[shane italian]

i dont know about yuou but i dont go to shows where kids windmillHahahah, this is me stompin to In Stride.

[atreyuxcore]

not windmills

[shane italian]

how do you not 'play follow the leader' in a circle pit?Plow into some people, fall down, run across the floor.

[shane italian]

not windmillsYeah, stomping is sooo much different than throwing windmills. :rolleyes:

[atreyuxcore]

yeah it is. people that say "i dont like moshing" are just to much of puss'ies to do it, why wouldnmt you, if you getting jacked up about a band playing,you should go nuts

[Lazybassplr56]

I got in the pit for the first time when I was 12 and two seconds after I got in a fat skinhead punched me in my kidney. It was fun.

[shane italian]

What are you talking about?

TO connor.

[Special Brew]

I mosh during fast parts and let the dancers have their space during breakdowns. Sometimes it's fine to mosh during breakdowns too, as long as you aren't being a douche and slamming into dancers on purpose.

[Special Brew]

Did I mention that I basically two step and mosh at the same time? :lol:

I'm dandy like candy... O.o

[bottlerocket]

yeah it is. people that say "i dont like moshing" are just to much of puss'ies to do it, why wouldnmt you, if you getting jacked up about a band playing,you should go nuts

Not true. Moshing just isn't for everyone. Just because moshing is one way to get into the music doesn't mean it's THE only way. I don't mosh a lot, but I always do sing alongs and pileups when I can.

:thumb:

-Gav

[shane italian]

Move around, p'ussies.

[Lazybassplr56]

Don't make me break this **** down for nothing.

[Lazybassplr56]

Dun dun dun dununununun dunn na nana na

[bottlerocket]

Move around, p'ussies.

Just because someone doesn't mosh doesn't mean they're not into the music or they're not enjoying it. I think it's mentality like that that ruins the scene.

:thumb:

-Gav

[Tyler]

How does that 'ruin the scene'?

[shane italian]

Just because someone doesn't mosh doesn't mean they're not into the music or they're not enjoying it. I think it's mentality like that that ruins the scene.

:thumb:

-GavFools who stand around will be layin' around.

[fan of the game]

Circle pits are the best.


correct

[Tjebby]

circle pits need to occur more often.
What about when Fall Out Boy has circle pits at their shows?

[Tyler]

What about when Fall Out Boy has circle pits at their shows?
that's cool. I like Fall Out Boy. Can't be very good circle pitting music but whatever.

[shane italian]

I wanna see more walls of death, swan dives, crowd mosh, and bear hugs.

[Lazybassplr56]

Kids ninja dance at Fall Out Boy shows.

[Lazybassplr56]

I wanna see more walls of death, swan dives, crowd mosh, and bear hugs.

Walls of death are crazy.

[Tyler]

that must be a sight. actually I remember seeing a Fall Out Boy video with ninja mosh in it.

[Lazybassplr56]

Saturday.

[k1ckthecat]

the only circle pit i've ever seen was at Warped with NUFAN

[shane italian]

the only circle pit i've ever seen was at Warped with NUFANThat's because you goto Warped Tour.

[Lazybassplr56]

The best circle pit I was in was at the G.B.H./Circle Jerks show.

[k1ckthecat]

That's because you goto Warped Tour.
*went once, will never go again

[Special Brew]

I go to every show I can, no matter if it's Warped, or just a local show with bands I barely like. I enjoy myself almost anywhere that music is playing, because I can get into almost anything when I hear it live.

[Berserker!]

Before I actually went to a show and people said 'fighting ruins shows' and stuff like that I just thought they were just trying to be all 'posi', but then I actually got hit in the face twice by some clown windmilling through the front row of people who were singing along.

You can dance, just don't be a dick

[Matas]

I find the dancing ridiculous. I'll be honest here... When I see a group of these ''dancers'' doing their thing, the first thing that comes to mind is
''Look at the hardcore kids, they think they're people!''

[JimbobTheSquirrel]

I wanna see more walls of death, swan dives, crowd mosh, and bear hugs.
Walls of death are fun. Tangoing into the middle of them more so:) (although it could have worked better.)
Bear hugs?

[NewKindofArmy03]

Plow into some people, fall down, run across the floor.
Which is what tends to happen in a circle pit...

[NewKindofArmy03]

more walls of death.
go see RAMBO, there was like 5 during their set.

WALL OF DEATH THE SYSTEM! MOSHTROCITY

[Converge#12]

i'm lucky, i live right near boston, aaand if i'm lazy i've always got bravo ****ing bravo in Nh
where neer boston man?

[Floydfanatic]

well not really near

an hour away but still close enough to go to good shows
se newhampshrie

[pixiesfanyo]

dancing is stupid.

i only mosh to bands i dislike.

i'm smart.

[Tjebby]

that's cool. I like Fall Out Boy. Can't be very good circle pitting music but whatever.
I like them too. Thats why i was at their show last night and Pete said "The guys on the west-coast said the midwest can't circle pit worth sht, so I want to prove them wrong, can you do that Des Moines?" and they played some stupid song. I think its dumb that people were trying to circle pit to Fall Out Boy.

[Special Brew]

At warped tour '04, A7X just got finished and New Found Glory was next. There wasn't really any other bands playing at that time, so all the A7X kids watched NFG, mostly in disgust.

The crowd was dull and boring, so me and these two shirtless mohawk'd guys decided to start an old fashion mosh pit to liven things up. Needless to say, all the A7X kids got into as well as some of the pop-punkers.

So much fun.

[fan of the game]

At warped tour '04, A7X just got finished and New Found Glory was next. There wasn't really any other bands playing at that time, so all the A7X kids watched NFG, mostly in disgust.

The crowd was dull and boring, so me and these two shirtless mohawk'd guys decided to start an old fashion mosh pit to liven things up. Needless to say, all the A7X kids got into as well as some of the pop-punkers.

So much fun.



hahah PUSH PIT!

[Special Brew]

hahah PUSH PIT!
Umm... yeah? :confused:

[gregulus]

MOST tough-guy hardcore sucks. The tough-guy attitude pisses me off. I'll never forget when I heard a guy who has been into punk rock and hardcore for quite a few years say "I remember when you didn't care if someone bumped into you or hit you in the pit, it just changed the direction you were dancing".



Circle pits > Spin-kicks.

[shane italian]

Which is what tends to happen in a circle pit...
You've never seen a circle pit in Southern California. Like I said, it's follow the leader.

[Saberpunk]

The best circle pit I was in was at the G.B.H./Circle Jerks show.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3520250845602230361&q=circle+jerks

yep pretty good ide say

[srt-4]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3520250845602230361&q=circle+jerks

yep pretty good ide say
haha. that sucked.

[kingdead]

I like any show where theres a variety of games to play.

[kux0]

people can only two-step so fast.....

[young, loud, and andrew]

that must be a sight. actually I remember seeing a Fall Out Boy video with ninja mosh in it.

They played Hatebreed in the background during the video shoot.

[Ross]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3520250845602230361&q=circle+jerks

yep pretty good ide say

That shouldn't be allowed to bear the title circle pit.

I love a good pit, but to be honest I have no problem with people at shows. If you want to watch, stand with the people who are watching. If you want to dance, dance with the people who are dancing. I like to do both, just depends on my mood.

The only time I get irritated is where you get a big angry bloke piling in and just trying to control the situation. Pits should not be controlled by anyone; if you just go with the flow you'll be fine and everyone can get along.

Oh, and I get irratated when some dick trys to mosh among the people who are skanking, or among the people who want to stand and watch. Me and my friends just stomp on them if they keep doing it :)

[Special Brew]

That shouldn't be allowed to bear the title circle pit.

I love a good pit, but to be honest I have no problem with people at shows. If you want to watch, stand with the people who are watching. If you want to dance, dance with the people who are dancing. I like to do both, just depends on my mood.

The only time I get irritated is where you get a big angry bloke piling in and just trying to control the situation. Pits should not be controlled by anyone; if you just go with the flow you'll be fine and everyone can get along.

Oh, and I get irratated when some dick trys to mosh among the people who are skanking, or among the people who want to stand and watch. Me and my friends just stomp on them if they keep doing it :)
Exactly!!!

It's all good, as long people are respectful of each other.

[victimofreality]

That shouldn't be allowed to bear the title circle pit.
Pretty much no pit is going to look good on a video. It's good if it's fun.

[Lazybassplr56]

Complete mayhem in a tiny club is so fun.

[comptonasseddy]

Where i live the scene is full of scene kids, so i take out all the scene kids in the pit, and then do my own two step, i was voted best dancer at a show and won a free pint! ho ho my gf's mum loves me...

[hey, you're not cory!]

I was at a show and this guy who was like 3'4 tall was going around the pit punching peoples knees. He got so wasted that night. He passed out in front of the club and his friends just picked him and left. It was a good night.
Ha, that story reminds me of when I went and saw Thrice and Underoath.

Right before Underoath came on me and my friend were standing there about halfway back waitng to just be dicks and charge the stage as fast as we could. And this short little mexican guy who didn't fit in at all (he was wearing old, dirty clothes, like he just got done fixing a car) and he came up behind me and kicked his knee into the back of my knee and when I reacted he just slipped passed me.

I watched him keep doing this to people until he got up about 5 rows.

[fan of the game]

Ha, that story reminds me of when I went and saw Thrice and Underoath.

Right before Underoath came on me and my friend were standing there about halfway back waitng to just be dicks and charge the stage as fast as we could. And this short little mexican guy who didn't fit in at all (he was wearing old, dirty clothes, like he just got done fixing a car) and he came up behind me and kicked his knee into the back of my knee and when I reacted he just slipped passed me.

I watched him keep doing this to people until he got up about 5 rows.

that guy rules

[MikeyXsouls]

**** you "2 stepping" or your "circle pits", it's all gay. It's only after the fact (and I mean years) that you have noticed that being completly violent in a "mosh pit" for no reason isn't cool in any way possible. Being a notorious asshole during some sick break down doesn't earn you any credit besides the moron award for the day, trust me I know.


Anyhow this is a funny site I found.

http://www.coalitionagainsthardcoredancing.com/index.html

[MikeyXsouls]

haha thats a sick way of filtering out vulgarity on these forms A_sshole = spatula. Awesome :D

[tell.me.something.typical]

Oh, I'm sorry for actually getting into my music. Let me guess your one of the people that stand still the whole time at a concert and look like a duesch.

[whiteminority]

I wanna see more walls of death, swan dives, crowd mosh, and bear hugs.
hells yes.

[Tyler]

**** you "2 stepping" or your "circle pits", it's all gay. It's only after the fact (and I mean years) that you have noticed that being completly violent in a "mosh pit" for no reason isn't cool in any way possible. Being a notorious spatula during some sick break down doesn't earn you any credit besides the moron award for the day, trust me I know.


Anyhow this is a funny site I found.

http://www.coalitionagainsthardcoredancing.com/index.html
running around in a circle bumping into a few people is oh so violent

[whiteminority]

**** you "2 stepping" or your "circle pits", it's all gay. It's only after the fact (and I mean years) that you have noticed that being completly violent in a "mosh pit" for no reason isn't cool in any way possible. Being a notorious spatula during some sick break down doesn't earn you any credit besides the moron award for the day, trust me I know.


Anyhow this is a funny site I found.

http://www.coalitionagainsthardcoredancing.com/index.html
hardcore music demands a reaction and standing around is just boring. besides if you go to a hardcore show you have to understand there is going to be a certain level of contact. if you want to relax to hardcore stay at home and listen on your stereo dont go to a show where your gonna get hit.

[kodan armada]

**** you "2 stepping" or your "circle pits", it's all gay. It's only after the fact (and I mean years) that you have noticed that being completly violent in a "mosh pit" for no reason isn't cool in any way possible. Being a notorious spatula during some sick break down doesn't earn you any credit besides the moron award for the day, trust me I know.


Anyhow this is a funny site I found.

http://www.coalitionagainsthardcoredancing.com/index.html


how is 2 stepping violent?

[young, loud, and andrew]

And this short little mexican guy who didn't fit in at all (he was wearing old, dirty clothes, like he just got done fixing a car) and he came up behind me and kicked his knee into the back of my knee and when I reacted he just slipped passed me.

I watched him keep doing this to people until he got up about 5 rows.

You're an a.sshole. I hope he hurt you.