help me out with my snare ringing...please

[officer doofy]

I've had this pork pie acrylic pig-lite for about a week, I love the sound but this ringing is really pissing me off. When i picked it up (for $200 at GC, great deal) it was tuned almost perfect, but there would be this ring that would sustain after hitting it and it is pissing me off. I took the head completely off and retuned it (yes I know how to properly tune a snare), but the ring is still there. I've heard of overtones and how to get rid of them, but i'm not sure if this is simply overtones or not. I haven't messed with the reso yet. Could someone tell me what is causing this ringing, and how I may get rid of it? Is it just the nature of the acrylic?

[LittlePound]

it might just be the snare, some snares just ring, not matter what kinda tuning you do. Go get an O-Ring. That diminish the ring to about zip, or make your own by cutting up old heads.

[playwithfire]

Ringing isn't a bad thing. Play with a band, the ring will be gone. The ring is just liveliness in a snare, a nice ring adds to the tone imo.

[GooseFilms.net]

tighten your snare wires more

[Loyton]

I freken HATE the kind of ringing your talking about..... i know exactly what your going though, i cant help because im sellin the snare that did that to me. (paid more than 200 for that to....)

[_R2D2_]

if you honestly cant get it sounding right through tuning or anything else, learn to like it or get rid of it i guess.

[LittlePound]

honestly i used to hate how much my drum rings, but now i kinda like it. I play with it and without it (o-ring) about equally, just depends on how i think it should sound for what i'm playing. Ring really can add the your snare sound, you just gotta get used to it.

[rockindrummer]

I would try messing around with the reso head and see what you can get out of that. If that doesn't work look into a coated cs head. That will count down the ring but not totaly kill the snare's sound.

[playwithfire]

Well your drum should have a nice open sound, and a ring to it, it should be a steady, even-decaying ring. Not one that waivers in pitch a lot. If it waivers in pitch a lot, then despite what you think, it's not tuned.

[billdrum]

When you're away from the drum, you can't really hear it, especially when playing with a band. If you must muffle it, use an o-ring or moongel. My 12" aux rings, but I had someone else play it while I stood away, and it sounds killer!

[dbl_bass_drmr_Jirvy]

^^^

Ring is good for live situations I believe...
I guess because the sound travels out more IMO... oh well

but like what most of the people here said, get an o-ring...

[Double Bass Jim]

Ring is good. If you start to muffle the drum with stuff you'll lose alot of dynamic possibilties. The best thing about a wide open drum is that it responds well to soft and hard strokes, you can coax more tone out of an unmuffled drum rather then a taped up pizza box. Let em' ring.

[FUnkarockadrummer]

Second that.

Play around with the resonant head for a bit and see what you come up with.

I like a pretty open sounding drum in live conditions. Its necessary when playing rock

[aznriceball]

Could someone tell me what is causing this ringing?

yes I know how to properly tune a snare),

I haven't messed with the reso yet.


:rolleyes: :lol:

[-Obscurity-]

My phone has a similar problem. No amount of duct tape or zero rings seems to do anything either. Apparently, credit card companies expect you to pay them back some day! Ha ha, Suckers.

[eirlisdrumer]

how tight are the heads. the tighter the heads, the more they ring

[Double Bass Jim]

Not always true ^ An overtight head will be choked and ring much less.

[officer doofy]

for those of you saying ringing is good, i dont know if you understand what kind of ringing i'm talking about; its not SUSTAIN or anything like that, is a ringing, exactly what comes to mind when you think of RINGING. as for the thing about messing with the reso, and how you are implying that i don't know how to tune a snare, i didn't mess with the reso because i can get a really good tone out of my snare, without messing with the reso, so why would I? the ringing is my only problem.

[Dunmore]

Reso Head, As is Resonates, Meaning to control over tones and Ringing you need to change the resnating frequency of the drum. Play with the reso head. The ringing is caused by the natural frequency of the drum matching (in phase) to the frequency that the reso head is tuned to. By changing the reso heads frequency (tuning) youll eliminate most of the ring.

Everyone has to love basic wave propreties and frequencies, my physics teacher is letting me bring in a drum to use as an example. I've found it amaising how much i can relate what im learning in class to drums, and what effects tuning has on drums and their sound. Hope that helps

[Double Bass Jim]

Yes ring... The ping or twang you hear after the strike? Yes that is good. Muffling will take away dynamic possibilties from the drum. Keep the snare side head a bit tighter to prevent pitch bend.

[Dunmore]

Ya all you have to do is play with your resonant head, Snare tuning to a pitch is mostley done on the batter anyway, Use the reso to get the sustain, britness, crack ect. that you want. You'll eventualy find out where the tuning range of your snare is, then you have to find YOUR "Sweet" Spot inside that range. Good Luck

PS Acrylic Snares are renouned for their Crack and RING..... So you may have the wrong type of snare for your likes. Remeber though its not how you hear it, its how listeners hear it... Like mentioned above.

[officer doofy]

that helps, thankyou everyone. DBJ, what do you mean by snare side head? thanks

[-Funky monk-]

Moongels or O rings are the answers

[Loyton]

:rolleyes: :lol:


Ha. good catch there.

[Double Bass Jim]

that helps, thankyou everyone. DBJ, what do you mean by snare side head? thanks
The bottom head of the snare

[FockerTheLopper]

Since I changed my heads I've had the same problem. Well its not really a problem, if you play live it sounds better and you can play lower and get louder rimshots. When you muffle a head I'm pretty sure it makes it less sensitive

[Double Bass Jim]

It does and also makes rimshots sound terrible.

[GooseFilms.net]

An overtight head will be choked and ring much less.
Absolutely. All the snares at the GC here are disgustingly tight. Gives a pretty dead, thin pop/pang.

I'd have to say, I love my starclassic snare. It sounds great, even better than my acro IMO

[Win A Rabbit]

i used to have the same problem with my old snare, but then i bought new heads for it (g1 over hazy 300) and it sounds wonderful now. it still rings a bit, but it's a ring i like to hear. occasionally i'll throw the o-ring on, but i don't play live with the o-ring.

[Double Bass Jim]

Yea GC has a tendancy to crank their drums to oblivion.

[Motleyguy]

try an O - ring, the only problem with them is they cut down on the volume too.

[xeonman9000]

A snare without ring is like vocals without reverb, they sound fine until you do add some ring/reverb, then they sound grat, take off the ring/reverb and they sound dead and dull.

[Double Bass Jim]

Once you learn to use it you can't live without it.

[LittlePound]

My phone has a similar problem. No amount of duct tape or zero rings seems to do anything either. Apparently, credit card companies expect you to pay them back some day! Ha ha, Suckers.

:lol: :thumb:

[officer doofy]

thanks, since we're here, can you guys recommend some snare heads? I like a loud tight sound, similar to Brad Wilks snare off the top of my head.

[charlie lokz]

The Ringing Will Be Great For Recording Man Dont Do Anything To Your Snare Man If You Titen The Snare Wires Itll Sound Wack Man I Had That Same Problem With My Black Panther Snare Form Mapex But When You Play With A Band Itll Go Away Man Keep On Drumming

[aznriceball]

and puncuation goes out the window

try coated ambassador over snare side ambassador

[playwithfire]

And capital letters on every word walks in the door ;). Ambassador over snareside Ambassador is a tried and true classic though. It's the standard.