what its like at my school...

[oathfbass]

So I was sitting in my math class during lunch just hanging out and stuff,and one of my friends is like im going to the warped tour next year,but ill have to sit through a whole bunch of crappy emo bands first to see anything first,and im like emo bands dont play at the warp tour.So shes like yeah they are and shes likes yellowcard and my chemical romance,coheed and cambria are emo bands im like no their not and some other people jump in and start telling me that bands like from first to last are emo and screamo and im trying to tell them taht thier not but they seem to clost minded to listen,any suggestions as to how i can change their mind?and also how can I explain post-hardcore to them?

[REINER]

Hit them with a bat. People who believe that and listen to that produced crap aren't going to bother listening to logic.

[Converge#12]

So I was sitting in my math class during lunch just hanging out and stuff,and one of my friends is like im going to the warped tour next year,but ill have to sit through a whole bunch of crappy emo bands first to see anything first,and im like emo bands dont play at the warp tour.So shes like yeah they are and shes likes yellowcard and my chemical romance,coheed and cambria are emo bands im like no their not and some other people jump in and start telling me that bands like from first to last are emo and screamo and im trying to tell them taht thier not but they seem to clost minded to listen,any suggestions as to how i can change their mind?and also how can I explain post-hardcore to them?
Show them wikipedia's definition for emo and for the post-hardcore thing I dont know what to tell you. People are like this at my school and this happens to me a lot. People dont belieive me when I tell them emo is an abbreviation for emotional-hardcore and that tbs, fallout boy, and mcr arent emo.

[oathfbass]

I would show them wikis definition but its wrong at the end about new "emo" bands.

[SubtleDagger]

I generally ignore idiots like these. I try to work with people I know who listen to hardcore and don't really know about it. And some of the more rational metalheads.

I would show them wikis definition but its wrong at the end about new "emo" bands.
Actually, it's correct, because it says those bands aren't actually emo, they are just playing off emo's influence.

[Tyler]

I don't see how you can call people idiots based on a VERY COMMON misconception.

[Converge#12]

I would show them wikis definition but its wrong at the end about new "emo" bands.
yeah I forgot that part was fu'cked up. I think they screwed up on the emo fashion part too if I remember correctly. I dont know, I get **** for this cause people dont believe me either.

[Sep]

Just ignore those idiots.

[SubtleDagger]

I don't see how you can call people idiots based on a VERY COMMON misconception.
I dislike people who appreciate music but aren't willing enough to look into it.

[oathfbass]

I wanna ignore them but I hang around them and stuff and they call me "emo fag" cause i wear a coheed shirt or the used hat or w/e and I try to tell them that its not emo,etc.

[Tyler]

I dislike people who appreciate music but aren't willing enough to look into it.
Where would they look into it? If they go looking for emo on the internet they're just going to find the same thing.

[SubtleDagger]

Where would they look into it? If they go looking for emo on the internet they're just going to find the same thing.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=emo+history

[oathfbass]

Where would they look into it? If they go looking for emo on the internet they're just going to find the same thing.

Yeah,their are some sites that know what their talking about,but..........that was the first time I heard someone call yellowcard emo, like 2 years ago when "punk" was the trend they were labeled punk along with bands like sum 41 and blink

[Converge#12]

I wanna ignore them but I hang around them and stuff and they call me "emo fag" cause i wear a coheed shirt or the used hat or w/e and I try to tell them that its not emo,etc.
You might also consider convincing them that people cannot be emo nor can clothes, hair, etc.

[Tyler]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=emo+history
fair enough. But I still don't see how you can judge someone on the fact that they aren't concerned with learning about the music they listen to as opposed to just appreciating it the way it is.

[Tyler]

But on the topic I don't bother "educating" people on emo in real life, just makes you look like a douche.

[oathfbass]

You might also consider convincing them that people cannot be emo nor can clothes, hair, etc.
I told them that and they were like "yeah they can,your standing right here"

[Sep]

Where would they look into it? If they go looking for emo on the internet they're just going to find the same thing.

Search for 'emo' on google and the thing that comes up is fourfa.

[SubtleDagger]

fair enough. But I still don't see how you can judge someone on the fact that they aren't concerned with learning about the music they listen to as opposed to just appreciating it the way it is.
It's just sort of irritating that when you try to educate these sorts of people they basically just ignore you or don't get it.

That's the general consensus among kids like that. It's great that they appreciate their own music. But it irks me that every time I have actually tried to give them some sort of information on it they'd rather remain ignorant about it.

So what I mean is that I dislike most of these kids because they are pretty ignorant even when you try to reason with them; they'd rather not learn about what the genres actually mean and would prefer to make things up to suit their relative clique.

Search for 'emo' on google and the thing that comes up is fourfa.
Granted, the next few results are general idiocy.

[Tyler]

Search for 'emo' on google and the thing that comes up is fourfa.
it's not the only thing that comes up...how does one know that that is the correct information?

[oathfbass]

It's just sort of irritating that when you try to educate these sorts of people they basically just ignore you or don't get it.

That's the general consensus among kids like that. It's great that they appreciate their own music. But it irks me that every time I have actually tried to give them some sort of information on it they'd rather remain ignorant about it.

So what I mean is that I dislike most of these kids because they are pretty ignorant even when you try to reason with them; they'd rather not learn about what the genres actually mean and would prefer to make things up to suit their relative clique.
None of the people im trying to convince like emo,they make fun of me cause I like it and make fun of me even more when I try to tell them what emo is cause they think emo is yellow card and coheed and cambria

[SubtleDagger]

None of the people im trying to convince like emo,they make fun of me cause I like it and make fun of me even more when I try to tell them what emo is cause they think emo is yellow card and coheed and cambria
I'm kind of curious, what do you think emo is? Like what kinds of bands?

I have to ask, because you never know.

[south_guitar]

Yeah, the best thing is just to ignore. I've tried to tell so many people what emo is. My closer friends listen, but others are just like "shut up, you don't know about music". Oh, the irony.

[fathergoat]

I just tell people I listen to Emotional Hardcore. They usually have no idea what it is and have no further comments.

[oathfbass]

I'm kind of curious, what do you think emo is? Like what kinds of bands?

I have to ask, because you never know.
Rites of spring,Texas is the reason and screamo:circle takes the square,city of caterpillar

[SubtleDagger]

Rites of spring,Texas is the reason and screamo:circle takes the square,city of caterpillar
Ha, okay.

We just get all sorts of people who come in here and think one popcore band is emo and another isn't, it's hard not to be wary of threads like these.

[oathfbass]

Ha, okay.

We just get all sorts of people who come in here and think one popcore band is emo and another isn't, it's hard not to be wary of threads like these.
Yeah I understand,I knew eventually someone would ask that :cool:

[Sep]

it's not the only thing that comes up...how does one know that that is the correct information?

I suppose. But people who think they know what emo is and won't listen to someone who clearly is more knowledgable on the subject are idiots.

But whatever- I used to try and educate some people but failed- they'd rather be ignorant. But I don't care because I wouldn't want those posers to listen to actual emo anyway.

[SubtleDagger]

I suppose. But people who think they know what emo is and won't listen to someone who clearly is more knowledgable on the subject are idiots.

But whatever- I used to try and educate some people but failed- they'd rather be ignorant. But I don't care because I wouldn't want those posers to listen to actual emo anyway.
I think that's actually a good point.

I would never want actual emo to get into the mainstream. It's the same with hardcore. If hardcore was ever mainstream to the point of like radio airplay, it would kill hardcore completely.

[Skidmark Steve]

i have the same problem you have at my school. most kids listen to all of this "so called" emo crap, and i know its not real emo (from hanging around the punk forum and all), but i cant give a list of any real emo bands and/or classify the horrible bands they listen to. i think i need to start haning out in the hardcore/emo forums as a learning mechanism

[oathfbass]

I think that's actually a good point.

I would never want actual emo to get into the mainstream. It's the same with hardcore. If hardcore was ever mainstream to the point of like radio airplay, it would kill hardcore completely.
Yeah,when you say that that reminds me of how underoath just came out of the underground and became a mainstream band and now their being played on mtv and people think their screamo

and to the skidmark steve,that a really good pint about the learning,thats what I did when I first heard of the genre and didnt know what it was.

[6_Nightmares]

i think everyone has this same problem, theres always a bunch of idiot who will refuse to believe anything but what they think, when most of thye time they are wrong.

[cobert]

Actually, all of you are wrong and My Chemical Romance is totally XEm0Xc0reX.

[Saturday Supercade]

learn to enjoy there ignorancy

[victimofreality]

So I was sitting in my math class during lunch just hanging out and stuff,and one of my friends is like im going to the warped tour next year,but ill have to sit through a whole bunch of crappy emo bands first to see anything first,and im like emo bands dont play at the warp tour.So shes like yeah they are and shes likes yellowcard and my chemical romance,coheed and cambria are emo bands im like no their not and some other people jump in and start telling me that bands like from first to last are emo and screamo and im trying to tell them taht thier not but they seem to clost minded to listen,any suggestions as to how i can change their mind?and also how can I explain post-hardcore to them?
Wow, so did you make them a list?

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

The best way to convince people a certain thing is not emo (Your hair is emo), is to tell them that music can't be something. Its like saying, "Your shirt is so pop-punk." or "wow your really post-hardcore."

[victimofreality]

Your avatar is too pop-punk.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

You're too xHARDCOREx

[asdf]

I think that's actually a good point.

I would never want actual emo to get into the mainstream. It's the same with hardcore. If hardcore was ever mainstream to the point of like radio airplay, it would kill hardcore completely.
Your avatar is the greatest thing ever. I miss that ad, and I miss Crossfire. A friend of mine had it, but him and his brothers lost all the pieces because they would just whip them at eachother.

Anyway, to stay on topic, it's a common misconception. I didn't even really know the distinction until recently. I mean, I knew the bands that everyone was calling emo were not real emo, but beyond that I knew nothing.

Educate them. If they don't want to listen, it's their loss.

I've had plenty of people ask about my music, and when I try to explain it, they just don't care or don't get it. I've had a rare few actually learn a lot from me.

[Converge#12]

I think that's actually a good point.

I would never want actual emo to get into the mainstream. It's the same with hardcore. If hardcore was ever mainstream to the point of like radio airplay, it would kill hardcore completely.
I'd say the selling of Death Before Dishonor and Mental shirts in hot topic is damn close.

[drumbum562]

Is it wrong to hate coheed and cambria, if so I guess im wrong

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

You are very wrong.

[SubtleDagger]

I'd say the selling of Death Before Dishonor and Mental shirts in hot topic is damn close.
I've never seen that stuff at Hot Topic, but even so, it's certainly not mainstream.

[cobert]

Is it wrong to hate coheed and cambria, if so I guess im wrong

Jesus christ, everyone hates coheed anymore. Mostly everyones reason for hating them is "the singer's a fag", anyways.

[oathfbass]

Jesus christ, everyone hates coheed anymore. Mostly everyones reason for hating them is "the singer's a fag", anyways.
yeah my one of my friends said their emo cuase the singer sounds like a fag :angry:

[Lazybassplr56]

I dont even try anymore. The people at my school are so dumb. They saw a kid in skin tight jeans wearing a Dead Kennedy's t-shirt and they said he was an emo because of his pants. I tried to tell them he was into punk rock but they didn't care.

[fathergoat]

Everyone who dresses a certain way (faded or tigh jeans) with somewhat long hair is considered emo in my school.

[Skidmark Steve]

Jesus christ, everyone hates coheed anymore. Mostly everyones reason for hating them is "the singer's a fag", anyways.
and.....

[Skidmark Steve]

i think most of our schools are like that :upset:

[oathfbass]

just thinkin about it now makes u wonder what the next trend will be

[Skidmark Steve]

just thinkin about it now makes u wonder what the next trend will be
well look on the brightside, would you rather have a school full of so called "emo" kids, or a school full of wiggers?

[enjoimx]

thats a tuff decision, they both suck. but at least with the emo kids there would be no "cap popping"

[oathfbass]

thats a tuff decision, they both suck. but at least with the emo kids there would be no "cap popping"

lmao,well i would rather everyone just be their selves but it would be funny with both cuase u would know what the real deal is while everyone else wouldnt

[Wow]

http://www.mesaverde.co.uk/mp3/

[TakeWarning]

Yeah, most people at my school are like that. You've just got to learn to ignore them.

[RCVA]

It's mostly girls over here. I just ignore it and change the subject.

[S.T.I]

My school is just full of wannabe gangsters.

[darrell]

Who cares about a genre of music? If you like it, listen to it. If not, don't.

And if for some strange reason you feel you must bash a certain genre to make yourself feel better, then chances are you're pathetic.

/thread

[kingdead]

Hardcore gets radioplay over here on like our main station.

[Wow]

thread


Is obviously the thing you didn't read.

[Drum Phil]

I had the same argument yesterday. :( And got told blink182 saved the punk scene

[kingdead]

Who cares about a genre of music? If you like it, listen to it. If not, don't.

And if for some strange reason you feel you must bash a certain genre to make yourself feel better, then chances are you're pathetic.

/thread

Do you right the gay heartfelt bits at the end of south park?

[oathfbass]

I had the same argument yesterday. :( And got told blink182 saved the punk scene
their not even punk lol,those people prolly dont know anything about punk

[young, loud, and andrew]

Blink 182 saved punk rock.

[frmautumTOashes]

Jesus christ, everyone hates coheed anymore. Mostly everyones reason for hating them is "the singer's a fag", anyways.

claudio is the one reason i can't get into them. they are really talented musically though.

and with educating people on emo, I don't even bother. I just go along with everyone else, and make fun of emo. I find it hilarious to stereotype emo kids cause I know thats not what emo really is. Thats why I find this http://emosong.ytmnd.com/ so funny. (btw there is a video of it which is ****ing hilarious.) I don't give a **** about genres anymore, i just listen to music that I think sounds good. I think this basically sums up what I think...

As the old proverb says, "History is written by the victors," and it remains to be seen which version of the genre will be accepted as the popular consciousness of "emo".

except it's obvious that the mainstream definition of emo is going to be known by the vast majority of people, so just deal with it. at least when people were misrepresenting punk, punk was already seen as a rebellious kind of music, but with emo it's already considered whiney, depressing, pussy, soft whatever you want to call it. so then screamo was made to differenciate, but now that term has been ruined too, so just call it hardcore. :cool:

[TakeWarning]

I had the same argument yesterday. :( And got told blink182 saved the punk scene
Well, they kinda did in a way.




A few weeks ago in my Italian class my professor was asking us what types of music we listened to. I said "punk and hardcore" and he didn't really understand. Some girl said something to the effect of "it's where they wear eyeshadow under their eyes and act really depressed all the time." What a f.ucking laugh. :lol:

Haha, awesome.

[young, loud, and andrew]

thats a tuff decision, they both suck. but at least with the emo kids there would be no "cap popping"

There is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much "cap popping" in hardcore. Hardcore kids buy New Era hats like crazy.



A few weeks ago in my Italian class my professor was asking us what types of music we listened to. I said "punk and hardcore" and he didn't really understand. Some girl said something to the effect of "it's where they wear eyeshadow under their eyes and act really depressed all the time." What a f.ucking laugh. :lol:

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Hahaha something like that happened in my German class to me a few days ago.

[RCVA]

This boy in my class who likes FOPI said that i like punk and this other boy said "What, like Sum 41 and Blink 182?"

[RCVA]

My school is just full of wannabe gangsters.
Hahahaha. This one kid i know who lives in Norbury, goes around saying "i'll ****ing stab you." And in my football team this boy says "Ghetto" and acts like a 'gangsta' even though he's a middle class white kid.

[mikexmcdaniel]

My advice is to try and explain it to the more open-minded individuals, and for the others, don't even bother. Just let them think they're right.

People are the same at my school. Fortunately I've been able to convert quite a few people.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I've only educated a few people and thats because I know they're good listeners and open-minded. I won't even bother educating an arrogant a'ss.

[Skidmark Steve]

My school is just full of wannabe gangsters.
damn, i didnt know South Whales was the hardcore gangster capital of the world

[Skidmark Steve]

I had the same argument yesterday. :( And got told blink182 saved the punk scene
i kind of agree, but not with punk, just mainstream rock. because without bands like blink, rap would overtake mainstream music

[wkd]

Just ignore them. You know you're right, and that's all that matters.

The same thing is going on at my school. People think MCR is considered emo along with a handful of other bands you mentioned.

Fortunatly, there are some people that know what REAL emo is. Most of them do listen to what the mainstream labels as "emo" but they do know the difference between the two, and some enjoy both.

Me being one of these people myself. I enjoy FFTL, Underoath etc.. but I also enjoy Circle Takes The Square, Saetia, Trophy Scars, and that sort of thing.

People take one look at me and they assume I like MCR, Senses Fail, Taking Back Sunday and that crap. When in reality, I hate them all.

I would just ignore them, you know what you're talking about, they don't.

[kingdead]

Taking Back Sunday>>>>>>>>>>>FFTL/Underoath

[wkd]

Taking Back Sunday>>>>>>>>>>>FFTL/Underoath

Riight.

[kingdead]

I know more than you about everything.

[echos]

How many similar threads do we get weekly on this subject?

[victimofreality]

THIS IS A CRUSADE. IT WILL NOT END UNTIL EVERYONE IN THE WORLD KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT EMO IS.

The pathetic thing is, if these people did start listening to actual emo, you'd complain about how they are just in it for the image or whatever.

[OI! to the World!]

warped tour sucks anyway

[TakeWarning]

i kind of agree, but not with punk, just mainstream rock. because without bands like blink, rap would overtake mainstream music

Rap already has overtaken mainstream rock.

[oathfbass]

THIS IS A CRUSADE. IT WILL NOT END UNTIL EVERYONE IN THE WORLD KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT EMO IS.

The pathetic thing is, if these people did start listening to actual emo, you'd complain about how they are just in it for the image or whatever.

Thats true but what would they call bands they think are emo?hardcore?then it would just start over again with the trend thing.

When people say mtv is the cause of all this nonsense,they do directly say it or indirectly,i remeber hearing that they labeled motion city soundtrack as emocore.

[TakeWarning]

Thats true but what would they call bands they think are emo?hardcore?then it would just start over again with the trend thing.

When people say mtv is the cause of all this nonsense,they do directly say it or indirectly,i remeber hearing that they labeled motion city soundtrack as emocore.

Idiots, Motion City Soundtrack is so so far from emocore. Emocore's basically a made up genre anyway.

[weerez1391]

At my school me and my bands guitar player are the only ones who have ever heard of CTTS, much less listen to them.Green Day is the most punk band ever and even popcore and mainstream hardcore like Thrice and Poison the well are unheard of. I am sterotyped as the gay heavy metal kid because i listen to "screaming music" and I wear semi tight shirts. Me and my guitar player tried to explain emo once in eighth grade and were immediately flooded with comments about MCR. BTW, im not gay, just to set that straight

[Lazybassplr56]

I went to school wearing a Terror t-shirt and got asked "What the **** is Terror?" 30 times.

[Tyler]

I went to school wearing a Terror t-shirt and got asked "What the **** is Terror?" 30 times.
i got 'hey guy what's terror' once :lol:

[Lazybassplr56]

that guy is a tard.

[fathergoat]

Idiots, Motion City Soundtrack is so so far from emocore. Emocore's basically a made up genre anyway.
I thought emocore was the shortform of emotional hardcore and later change to just emo :confused:

[TakeWarning]

I went to school wearing a Terror t-shirt and got asked "What the **** is Terror?" 30 times.

Yeah, that happened when I wore my NOFX shirt to school.

I thought emocore was the shortform of emotional hardcore and later change to just emo

Haha, if there's a genre called emocore the name doesn't make sense. Emotional hardcorecore.

[victimofreality]

At my school me and my bands guitar player are the only ones who have ever heard of CTTS, much less listen to them.Green Day is the most punk band ever and even popcore and mainstream hardcore like Thrice and Poison the well are unheard of. I am sterotyped as the gay heavy metal kid because i listen to "screaming music" and I wear semi tight shirts. Me and my guitar player tried to explain emo once in eighth grade and were immediately flooded with comments about MCR. BTW, im not gay, just to set that straight
Sounds like you and your bands guitar player deserve a trophy.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Whats your problem with emo? Everytime theres a thread discussing emo or something you hop onto the opposite side.

[victimofreality]

But on the topic I don't bother "educating" people on emo in real life, just makes you look like a douche.
I'm going to agree with this, and add "telling people that you listen to emo."

[RCVA]

Most of my friends don't know what i listen to. And most don't really care.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Haha, i was at a gig yuesterdya and someone was talking to me and i asked what music he likes and he says he's really getting into emo and i asked what bands, he said MCR, i said it wasn't emo and he said it was to me so i just ignored him...

[TakeWarning]

Most of my friends don't know what i listen to. And most don't really care.

Mine too. I don't particularly care what they think of my music either.

[6_Nightmares]

Haha, i was at a gig yuesterdya and someone was talking to me and i asked what music he likes and he says he's really getting into emo and i asked what bands, he said MCR, i said it wasn't emo and he said it was to me so i just ignored him...

you showed him:thumb:

[young, loud, and andrew]

I went to school wearing a Terror t-shirt and got asked "What the **** is Terror?" 30 times.

Kanye West > Terror.

(just a random thought)

[TakeWarning]

Kanye West > Terror.

(just a random thought)

**** no. You've got to be joking.

[young, loud, and andrew]

**** no. You've got to be joking.

The only joke here is Terror. Terror is decent from time to time, but as far as musical ingenuity goes, I'd much rather listen to Kanye West. I'd probably rather see him live too.

Throw them diamonds in the sky if you feel me.

[S.T.I]

Nah Terror are great live. They're allright on record but live they are great fun.

[weerez1391]

Sounds like you and your bands guitar player deserve a trophy.
hell yeah we deserve a trophy:lol:

[TakeWarning]

The only joke here is Terror. Terror is decent from time to time, but as far as musical ingenuity goes, I'd much rather listen to Kanye West. I'd probably rather see him live too.

Throw them diamonds in the sky if you feel me.

Terror are mad fun. Except that video of Shut Your Mouth was kinda weird.

[oathfbass]

Taking Back Sunday>>>>>>>>>>>FFTL/Underoath

CTTS beats all of them

[whiteminority]

Just ignore them. You know you're right, and that's all that matters.

The same thing is going on at my school. People think MCR is considered emo along with a handful of other bands you mentioned.

Fortunatly, there are some people that know what REAL emo is. Most of them do listen to what the mainstream labels as "emo" but they do know the difference between the two, and some enjoy both.

Me being one of these people myself. I enjoy FFTL, Underoath etc.. but I also enjoy Circle Takes The Square, Saetia, Trophy Scars, and that sort of thing.

People take one look at me and they assume I like MCR, Senses Fail, Taking Back Sunday and that crap. When in reality, I hate them all.

I would just ignore them, you know what you're talking about, they don't.
trophy scars is post-hardcore not emo.

[whiteminority]

The only joke here is Terror. Terror is decent from time to time, but as far as musical ingenuity goes, I'd much rather listen to Kanye West. I'd probably rather see him live too.

Throw them diamonds in the sky if you feel me.
i agree with you, id rather see terror live though because i like movement at shows and i doubt thered be any stagediving at a kanye show.

[oathfbass]

trophy scars is post-hardcore not emo.

what exactly is post hardcore?

[enjoimx]

postmen singing hardcore, duh

[wkd]

trophy scars is post-hardcore not emo.

That's beside the point.

[Theramed]

postmen singing hardcore, duh

:lol: :lol:
what exactly is post hardcore?

I am led to believe that it is-
What many 80's hardcore bands evolved into after the initial wave e.g. Fugazi

[RCVA]

www.myspace.com/robotwhales are good post-hardcore band. Which reminds me, Reiner, have they released their album yet?

Check out These Arms Are Snakes too.

[somrandomguy]

As far as post-hardcore goes, it's all about Bear vs. Shark. They are pretty much the best post-hardcore band you can see now(with Fugazi not touring and all).

[frmautumTOashes]

I went to school wearing a Terror t-shirt and got asked "What the **** is Terror?" 30 times.

I thought terror was at least somewhat popular

Yeah, that happened when I wore my NOFX shirt to school.


wow people who don't know who NOFX are automatically fail at life.

one time when I was in music we were talking and somehow metallica came up, and this black girl is like, "whats metallica? is that like some kind of music?" i really wanted to shoot her in the face. how can someone be that ignorant? metallica is like equivilant to tupac in rap.

[Flagjacket]

one time when I was in music we were talking and somehow metallica came up, and this black girl is like, "whats metallica? is that like some kind of music?" i really wanted to shoot her in the face. how can someone be that ignorant? metallica is like equivilant to tupac in rap.
That wasn't funny. I'm goign to take it as this thread describes crappy hipster filled schools. At my school, all the kids listen to Underoath and MCR and the Used. And then the dumber ones make fun of me and my friends for listening to the Descendents and stuff.

[Tyler]

That wasn't funny. I'm goign to take it as this thread describes crappy hipster filled schools. At my school, all the kids listen to Underoath and MCR and the Used. And then the dumber ones make fun of me and my friends for listening to the Descendents and stuff.
How can you make fun of someone for liking the Descendents...

[asdf]

Most of my friends don't know what i listen to. And most don't really care.
That's how it was for me in middle school. That all changed when I went to highschool, although my music tastes stayed the same.

[Concubine]

Hi all.. i'm from Indonesia... And it's a Lot worse down here....
Basically, i have the same problems here, but i just ignore them... I just smile when i see someone at my school listen to MCR and hear them saying "i'm so emo"...
I'm not saying i have a better taste in music than they do or whatever... I do try to educate some people who are open minded and WORTH the explanation..
One time i try to educate a girl, but when she says that Rancid isn't punk and Yellowcard is, i just left her... :p

[enjoimx]

yeah nofx is good man, there ska-ish stuff is awesome too

[Lazybassplr56]

I go to school in the valley with a lot a rich kids and kids whose parents are movie stars.

[srt-4]

But on the topic I don't bother "educating" people on emo in real life, just makes you look like a douche.
exactly. debating that stuff on the internet is different than real life. being a genre-nazi in real life is just going to make you look like a tool. on here you can give links, history, and have people to back you up. in real life, you are just saying, that band isn't this, this band (that they have never heard of) is, and it gets you no where. you look to all of them as stupid as they look to you, its pointless.

[cobert]

Slightly off topic, but i once heard slipknot described as punk. Just thought id mention it. And i went on MX once in school and came to this forum,, and my friend asked what emo was and some dumb bitch said 'its when youre sad and cut yourself and stuff' and my friend said 'emo's gay'.

I never bothered actually explainging what it was to him, since he has no knowledge of any of the genres emo is rooted in. If i said it was based from hardcore, he still wouldnt know what im talking about, and if i named some emo bands, most people still wouldnt know.

[oathfbass]

Emo is misunderstood and underrated

[modern_man]

when i was in high school we had the basic genres of music.we didnt squabble about different genres too much.there was hardcore and everything else was just punk.now theres like 20 different genres of punk?damn man,talk about getting technical.:rolleyes:

[oathfbass]

when i was in high school we had the basic genres of music.we didnt squabble about different genres too much.there was hardcore and everything else was just punk.now theres like 20 different genres of punk?damn man,talk about getting technical.:rolleyes:

yeah i told my friends that the bands they think is emo were like pop-rock and post hardcore and they laughed at me like they never heard those genres before

[blackflagfiend]

yeah my friend thinks that mcr and fall out boy are emo too but i told them theyre not. what genre are those bands anywayz

[Angry Balled Fists!]

pop-punk.

[RCVA]

Or pop-rock.

[Tyler]

I'd call MCR and Fall Out Boy pop-punk.

[RCVA]

Fall Out Boy are pop-punk i'd say. MCR i'm not so sure.

[oathfbass]

Fall Out Boy are pop-punk i'd say. MCR i'm not so sure.
nothin about FOB is punk so their just pop rock and so is mcr

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Fall Out Boy are defentetly Pop-Punk.

[modern_man]

whatever it is,it is definitely something that the mommies and daddies of the world will get their kids for christmas.by the way.when will mary-kate and ashely{or is it a$$ely) gonna put out their punk album?

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

I don't get your post... Anyways, I like some of these mislabeled bands. Fall Out Boy is a really fun band.

[cobert]

Mary-Kate and Ashley punk album?

Should be awesome, as long as one of them yells "BUST!!!" anywhere on the CD.

[MinorThreat]

I don't see how you can call people idiots based on a VERY COMMON misconception.

Im guessing you think neither republicans or democrats are idiots than?

The reason i ask is because most americans think the opposing political party is just a bunch of idiots.

And most americans make this misconception ...

So most americans, according to your theory, arent idiots.... but lets try asking the rest of the world that question.

[Tyler]

Im guessing you think neither republicans or democrats are idiots than?

The reason i ask is because most americans think the opposing political party is just a bunch of idiots.

And most americans make this misconception ...

So most americans, according to your theory, arent idiots.... but lets try asking the rest of the world that question.
...

[cobert]

Im guessing you think neither republicans or democrats are idiots than?

The reason i ask is because most americans think the opposing political party is just a bunch of idiots.

And most americans make this misconception ...

So most americans, according to your theory, arent idiots.... but lets try asking the rest of the world that question.

And most people outside of america think most americans are idiots.

Common misconception.

[PUNKROCK4EVA]

the only intelligent americans i have ever met are the 3 that im related 2.

its pretty obvious Americans arent real geniusess for a few reasons

1. the governor of california is Arnie
2.most american products are made in china, who could start a war with them tommorrow, think about it

and finally

gorge bush got re-elected

[TakeWarning]

the only intelligent americans i have ever met are the 3 that im related 2.

its pretty obvious Americans arent real geniusess for a few reasons

1. the governor of california is Arnie
2.most american products are made in china, who could start a war with them tommorrow, think about it

and finally

gorge bush got re-elected

Now you're just making Australians look like idiots.

[oathfbass]

Fall Out Boy are defentetly Pop-Punk.
What makes them punk??????????????????Singing about girls?pah.

[Wow]

My name is PUNKROCK4EVA and I think Americans are stupid.


Oh the irony.

[RCVA]

the only intelligent americans i have ever met are the 3 that im related 2.

its pretty obvious Americans arent real geniusess for a few reasons

1. the governor of california is Arnie
2.most american products are made in china, who could start a war with them tommorrow, think about it

and finally

gorge bush got re-elected
They aren't American products if they are made in China. You're completely stereotyping Americans based on celebrities. Seriously, this is the worst post i've ever seen.

[Drum Phil]

Well, they kinda did in a way.

IMO blink murdered it by bringing it into the limelight and stripping it of everything it originally stood for

[oathfbass]

Listen to this and look at what they classify themselves.....

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=1944097&Mytoken=8FDEEE0E-83EA-6B7C-F8C5AA88442DF87855183077

[whiteminority]

the only intelligent americans i have ever met are the 3 that im related 2.

its pretty obvious Americans arent real geniusess for a few reasons

1. the governor of california is Arnie
2.most american products are made in china, who could start a war with them tommorrow, think about it

and finally

gorge bush got re-elected
the reason we buy products from china here in america because they make it cheap and thats all that matters to most of the people here. and though the reason arnold schwarzenegger (or however the hell you spell it) is governor is sort of messed up he hasnt ruined the state yet and california is doing pretty fine so he isnt doing a terrible job and finally george bush got re-elected because of very large consevatist right in this country and mr. bush played right into that demographics hands.

finally stop bashing americans what the hell did we do to australia? by the way thank you australia for producing the band destroyer 666.:thumb:

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

the only intelligent americans i have ever met are the 3 that im related 2.

its pretty obvious Americans arent real geniusess for a few reasons

1. the governor of california is Arnie
2.most american products are made in china, who could start a war with them tommorrow, think about it

and finally

gorge bush got re-elected
You're ignorant, shut up Crocodile Dundee.

[srt-4]

the only intelligent americans i have ever met are the 3 that im related 2.

its pretty obvious Americans arent real geniusess for a few reasons

1. the governor of california is Arnie
2.most american products are made in china, who could start a war with them tommorrow, think about it

and finally

gorge bush got re-elected
great example of anti-americanism based on ignorance.

[Pinkpiche]

it is true though that a lot of countries think america (and not americans) are handling a lot of things badly. WTC, iraq, new orleans and so on.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

Take all this "America" talk to the Serious forum. Lets get back on topic here.

[modern_man]

Mary-Kate and Ashley punk album?

Should be awesome, as long as one of them yells "BUST!!!" anywhere on the CD.

yeah,i heard they might be opening up for fall out boys or maybe my chemical romance.

[joey_86]

mcr, fall out boy, taking back sunday may or may not be emo, i dont really care, all i know is that they suck ***. same with any rap/pop related music, and anything emo or with the whiny emo voice. they should be shot out of their misery, im pretty sure thats what they want.

An emo kid writes in his journal:
"Dear diary, my life is such a complete fiasco. The dashboard is in two weeks and i can't even fit into my little sister's jeans anymore. My dad grounded
me cause he caught me in my mom's makeup again. He's such a nazi. I wish i could just run away to somewhere where people could understand me. I make out with one guy at a show and I'm gay? Hello, it's the new millenium. Ever heard of experimentation? I tried to cut my wrist yesterday but some of the blood got on my pants, and I totally freaked. Needless to say, they're ruined."

That was from a song called '**** emo' by cheap sex.

In one year the emo fad will be all over. Hopefully MTV can actually play some good metal on a regular basis instead of rap/emo/good charlotte crap.

[Converge#12]

mcr, fall out boy, taking back sunday may or may not be emo, i dont really care, all i know is that they suck ***. same with any rap/pop related music, and anything emo or with the whiny emo voice. they should be shot out of their misery, im pretty sure thats what they want.

An emo kid writes in his journal:
"Dear diary, my life is such a complete fiasco. The dashboard is in two weeks and i can't even fit into my little sister's jeans anymore. My dad grounded
me cause he caught me in my mom's makeup again. He's such a nazi. I wish i could just run away to somewhere where people could understand me. I make out with one guy at a show and I'm gay? Hello, it's the new millenium. Ever heard of experimentation? I tried to cut my wrist yesterday but some of the blood got on my pants, and I totally freaked. Needless to say, they're ruined."

That was from a song called '**** emo' by cheap sex.

In one year the emo fad will be all over. Hopefully MTV can actually play some good metal on a regular basis instead of rap/emo/good charlotte crap.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Ignorance is hilarious.

[SunnyDayRealEstateAM]

mcr, fall out boy, taking back sunday may or may not be emo, i dont really care, all i know is that they suck ***. same with any rap/pop related music, and anything emo or with the whiny emo voice. they should be shot out of their misery, im pretty sure thats what they want.

An emo kid writes in his journal:
"Dear diary, my life is such a complete fiasco. The dashboard is in two weeks and i can't even fit into my little sister's jeans anymore. My dad grounded
me cause he caught me in my mom's makeup again. He's such a nazi. I wish i could just run away to somewhere where people could understand me. I make out with one guy at a show and I'm gay? Hello, it's the new millenium. Ever heard of experimentation? I tried to cut my wrist yesterday but some of the blood got on my pants, and I totally freaked. Needless to say, they're ruined."

That was from a song called '**** emo' by cheap sex.

In one year the emo fad will be all over. Hopefully MTV can actually play some good metal on a regular basis instead of rap/emo/good charlotte crap.
Haha. You're so retarded its beyond funny. I hope you get raped by a big black gay guy.

[Wow]

mcr, fall out boy, taking back sunday may or may not be emo, i dont really care, all i know is that they suck ***. same with any rap/pop related music, and anything emo or with the whiny emo voice. they should be shot out of their misery, im pretty sure thats what they want.

An emo kid writes in his journal:
"Dear diary, my life is such a complete fiasco. The dashboard is in two weeks and i can't even fit into my little sister's jeans anymore. My dad grounded
me cause he caught me in my mom's makeup again. He's such a nazi. I wish i could just run away to somewhere where people could understand me. I make out with one guy at a show and I'm gay? Hello, it's the new millenium. Ever heard of experimentation? I tried to cut my wrist yesterday but some of the blood got on my pants, and I totally freaked. Needless to say, they're ruined."

That was from a song called '**** emo' by cheap sex.

In one year the emo fad will be all over. Hopefully MTV can actually play some good metal on a regular basis instead of rap/emo/good charlotte crap.


1. You don't know what emo is.
2. Using your logic, I can make the statement "Only redneck imbreds listen to metal."

[oathfbass]

mcr, fall out boy, taking back sunday may or may not be emo, i dont really care, all i know is that they suck ***. same with any rap/pop related music, and anything emo or with the whiny emo voice. they should be shot out of their misery, im pretty sure thats what they want.

An emo kid writes in his journal:
"Dear diary, my life is such a complete fiasco. The dashboard is in two weeks and i can't even fit into my little sister's jeans anymore. My dad grounded
me cause he caught me in my mom's makeup again. He's such a nazi. I wish i could just run away to somewhere where people could understand me. I make out with one guy at a show and I'm gay? Hello, it's the new millenium. Ever heard of experimentation? I tried to cut my wrist yesterday but some of the blood got on my pants, and I totally freaked. Needless to say, they're ruined."

That was from a song called '**** emo' by cheap sex.

In one year the emo fad will be all over. Hopefully MTV can actually play some good metal on a regular basis instead of rap/emo/good charlotte crap.
When mtv plays metal that means metal will be messed up and bands such as HH will be labeled as metal

*bob my head and cut my bass*

[whiteminority]

mcr, fall out boy, taking back sunday may or may not be emo, i dont really care, all i know is that they suck ***. same with any rap/pop related music, and anything emo or with the whiny emo voice. they should be shot out of their misery, im pretty sure thats what they want.

An emo kid writes in his journal:
"Dear diary, my life is such a complete fiasco. The dashboard is in two weeks and i can't even fit into my little sister's jeans anymore. My dad grounded
me cause he caught me in my mom's makeup again. He's such a nazi. I wish i could just run away to somewhere where people could understand me. I make out with one guy at a show and I'm gay? Hello, it's the new millenium. Ever heard of experimentation? I tried to cut my wrist yesterday but some of the blood got on my pants, and I totally freaked. Needless to say, they're ruined."

That was from a song called '**** emo' by cheap sex.

In one year the emo fad will be all over. Hopefully MTV can actually play some good metal on a regular basis instead of rap/emo/good charlotte crap.
thanks for the laugh. i needed that. :lol: :lol:

[Lazybassplr56]

I tried to argue with my friend today about MCR not being emo, but he would not get it.

[whiteminority]

people are morons.

[Lazybassplr56]

I know.

[whiteminority]

well all i know is that i dont bother educating anymore. last person who said they knew what emo was and said tbs i told them to go listen to indian summer and then come talk to me about emo.

[Lazybassplr56]

See none of my friends listen to any type of underground music. Music isn't a big thing in their lives.

[wkd]

mcr, fall out boy, taking back sunday may or may not be emo, i dont really care, all i know is that they suck ***. same with any rap/pop related music, and anything emo or with the whiny emo voice. they should be shot out of their misery, im pretty sure thats what they want.

An emo kid writes in his journal:
"Dear diary, my life is such a complete fiasco. The dashboard is in two weeks and i can't even fit into my little sister's jeans anymore. My dad grounded
me cause he caught me in my mom's makeup again. He's such a nazi. I wish i could just run away to somewhere where people could understand me. I make out with one guy at a show and I'm gay? Hello, it's the new millenium. Ever heard of experimentation? I tried to cut my wrist yesterday but some of the blood got on my pants, and I totally freaked. Needless to say, they're ruined."

That was from a song called '**** emo' by cheap sex.

In one year the emo fad will be all over. Hopefully MTV can actually play some good metal on a regular basis instead of rap/emo/good charlotte crap.

You're a moron.

As far as I know, metal/punk/alternative music was never meant to be mainstream. Any band that is played on MTV is sure to get popularity, that's why people call most of the bands they air as sellouts.

Metal/Punk bands giving their videos over to MTV would destroy the genre. It would no longer be a cool underground thing.

Have any of you ever seen any REAL punk videos on MTV? Exactly.

Unfortunately, the same thing is happening to Fuse. Fuse has gained a lot of popularity, very quickly. It's good that they show only music videos, and not reality show crap.

But, I go to school and I hear about morons and how they're into Fuse. Fuse is now the COOL thing, as was MTV so many years ago. Most of the bands aired on Fuse are getting just as much attention as if they were on MTV.

Anyone with a Satellite dish can watch Fuse. What makes the people that watch it one step ahead of everyone? I hardly watch it anymore.

</rant>

[cobert]

FACT: This thread is filled with ignorance.

[victimofreality]

I'm telling you guys:

LISTS

Everyone will know exactly as much about emo as you, and they won't think you're pretentious queers.

[modern_man]

mcr, fall out boy, taking back sunday may or may not be emo, i dont really care, all i know is that they suck ***.

my sentiments exactly.more people are concerned about how to classify these bands than they are about their music.which goes to show that their music is just a trendy topic of conversation.:p

[TakeWarning]

well all i know is that i dont bother educating anymore. last person who said they knew what emo was and said tbs i told them to go listen to indian summer and then come talk to me about emo.

Yeah, I don't bother either. No one really gets it anyway.

[Ross]

Few things:

1. I am one of the people who rips it out of my emokid friends for liking mcr
2. I know mcr aren't really emo
3. I am prepared to listen to people about what really is emo
4. My friends think they're emokids
5. They think mcr are emo
6. They think mcr are good
7. My friends cry
8. I win.

Yeah dude.

[oathfbass]

Lol you should ask them how they can be a genre of music

[XAsTheRootsUndoX]

i had a conversation at school that went thusly:

me: what genre do you think Senses Fail are?
him: hardcore
me: i'm going to skull**** you

yeah, and we're the music students, too...

[victimofreality]

Nope, I was wrong. You do look pretentious