The Black Dahlia Murder - split with drummer and bassist

[nowitzki]

From blabbermouth http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=43720

Detroit, Michigan-based melodic death metallers THE BLACK DAHLIA MURDER have confirmed the departures of drummer Zach Gibson and bassist David Lock. "Both are gone cause they couldn't actually play our material," the band write in an online posting. "It was sad to have to make such a decision with Dave since he's been with us for quite some time. We wish him nothing but the best in all his future endeavors. Zach, however, was a much easier call to make. He simply didin't care that he played subpar, and we decided that we could definitely not let someone who doesn't even care about the band to continue. We're sorry to all of you who are bummed, but we promise a much better BLACK DAHLIA MURDER to come."

When I first read the headline I was dissapointed as I thought the drummer was great on the albums. However after reading the article, it seems like they made a good desicion. I really want to see them live next time they come to the UK.

[Shred Danson]

I thought the drummer was great on the albums.

He was only on Miasma, wasn't he?

Check out what he had to say, it was posted in the death heads thread...you have my thoughts on this already...

[nowitzki]

I just read the drummers comments.

He was only on Miasma, wasn't he?

Well in that case, him saying "BDM is nothing without me,they were nothing until I joined." is ridiculous. Unhallowed was an incredible album.

[Shred Danson]

I just read the drummers comments.



Well in that case, him saying "BDM is nothing without me,they were nothing until I joined." is ridiculous. Unhallowed was an incredible album.

Indeed. I'm just not going to pay attention to the guy. Probably an ego-overload or something...

[shamed-angel]

Sounds like a walking, talking ego to me... TBDM are amazing.

[i am the robots]

Sucks, but things have to be done.

[World_Ablaze]

Sucks about the bassist, but i agree about the drummer. I just they get some new members soon and get over to the uk!

[shamed-angel]

Does this mean thei Uk dates are cancelled? Please NOOOOOOOOO!

[RetiredAt21]

The drummer was amazing. The bassist was...not integral to the band.

[Shred Danson]

The drummer was great, I'll give him that. But he had no right to downplay the role of others in the band and their abilities just because he left/got booted out of the band.

[RetiredAt21]

It's true, he does sound like a real d'ick, but he was good, and he really contributed alot to the band.

[Shred Danson]

It's true, he does sound like a real d'ick, but he was good, and he really contributed alot to the band.

Apparently not enough, if he was kicked out of the band. :p

[RetiredAt21]

Hahahaha, that's true.

[World_Ablaze]

Does this mean thei Uk dates are cancelled? Please NOOOOOOOOO!

What? when? why?

They were palying the UK??????

[blackout]

What? when? why?

They were palying the UK??????
Yeah, they were supposed to have the short tour here between the 6th and 11th of february. I hope it's still going to happen.

Shame to hear about the drummer, he was a lot better than their last one, but if even he can't keep up, then their next drummer is bound to be even better.

[shamed-angel]

What? when? why?

They were palying the UK??????
Yeh...

[World_Ablaze]

Yeah, they were supposed to have the short tour here between the 6th and 11th of february. I hope it's still going to happen.

Shame to hear about the drummer, he was a lot better than their last one, but if even he can't keep up, then their next drummer is bound to be even better.

Do you know if they were playing manchester at all?

[shamed-angel]

Yeh they were... The Academy...

[World_Ablaze]

I can't see anything about the uk tour on their webiste or the manchester academy's one... :confused:

[shamed-angel]

There's nothing about their UK tour 'cause thir webmaster is shite. I had tickets for Newport on the 10th of this month, but I doubt they'll be able to play by then.

[World_Ablaze]

There's nothing about their UK tour 'cause thir webmaster is shite. I had tickets for Newport on the 10th of this month, but I doubt they'll be able to play by then.

That sucks, i've been waiting ages to see them aswell.

[zerosk8er1988]

I saw them earlier last month and they were amazing. The drummer seemed cool to me. Too bad, but I'm sure the next album will be incredible with an even better drummer.

[BLACKLABEL]

I loved TBDM, it sucks that those guys are leaving they will probly never be the same, what did they mean with "Both are gone cause they couldn't actually play our material," ??

[ninjamonkey]

"Couldn't play the material"? Haha, I highly doubt that. The bassist was in the band for the first album too, so I doubt he couldn't play it.

[i am the robots]

"Couldn't play the material"? Haha, I highly doubt that. The bassist was in the band for the first album too, so I doubt he couldn't play it.

It might be like Opeth where Akerfeldt played and recorded all guitar and bass parts himself on My Arms Your Hearse, only unlike Martin Mendez, this guy couldn't play his role in the band.

[nowitzki]

I loved TBDM, it sucks that those guys are leaving they will probly never be the same, what did they mean with "Both are gone cause they couldn't actually play our material," ??

Well I guess he means their live performance's were sloppy. I wouldn't know to be honest as I've never seen them live. But I can imagine it must be pretty demanding music to play night in night out, especially for the drummer.

[Manticore Guy]

They were amazing at Ozzfest, everyone was doing great.They played the material quite well...:confused:

[Reflection]

Funnily enough, apprantly this is what the drummer posted on his myspaec...

"Yes, the rumors are true, I AM NO LONGER THE DRUMMER FOR THE BLACK DAHLIA MURDER........I was asked to leave the band after our last show on the BTBAM/Cephalic Carnage/Into The Moat tour 10/28/05 in Detroit,Michigan,our home...I was quitting anyways and they knew it,they just wanted to save face and beat me to the punch.I'm gonna sound like a total asshole, but anyone that knows me knows that this is the truth and i'm very very far from being a dick head.....BDM is nothing without me,they were nothing until I joined.Had I not joined last year when I did, they never would've continued, and even if they did, half the **** they did with me in the band would've never happened,and Miasma wouldn't have turned out the way it did,they know all of this is true as well, because i've been told by them many a times.I want everyone to know that reads this that Brian from BDM is a total dickhead and doesn't care about anything accept making money,and on top of that, he is not half as good of a musician as you may think,he is one of the most un-talented musicians i've ever played with.He doesn't care about friendships,having fun(Basically really being in a band).....I also want everyone to know that I was shorted about $2500,very ****ty on their part,also a decision made by Brian.They also gave Dave Lock(bass) the boot shortly after me.....Also a very ****ty thing.....I know now who my real friends are and Dave was really the only one outta the band that I could really consider a friend.I've heard many a rumors that Trevor is leaving the band,I hope it's true.I wish nothing but the worst to Brian and his future endeavors.So, for anyone thinking of joining, don't do it unless you're a total ****ing joke of a musician and a person that only cares about making money and nothing else, and not the most important things about being in a band(having fun,REAL friendships and being friends with the people in your band...etc).And for everyone that thinks or have said to me "man, being in bdm must be great....blah blah blah" it wasn't,I made barely any money and lived like a ****ing bum for over a year.I'll be much happier in a band that goes no where making no money than a band that is very well known and not getting ****. I've had some of the best times in my life since I was in BDM, but for every great time there has been a totally ****ty time that made me wanna quit my life because of Brian.I have nothing good to say about Brian, and many of you who read this probably think i'm just sore about being kicked out, but i'm really not,I just want everyone to know the truth so another kid doesn't go and make the mistake I made.Looking back at when Cory was asked to leave, I was good friends with him, and he fore-warned me about Brian and the rest of the bull**** that went on....I wish I would've listened to him.I think i'm pretty much done here,if anyone has any questions about anything, don't be shy to ask, I will hold nothing back......."

[RetiredAt21]

He could go on to a better band anyways. He's a sick drummer.

[firemoth12]

I don't know who to believe now.

[stevo_13]

I'm quite dissapointed that they left(or got kicked out) of the band I was really looking forward to seeing them next Thursday with 3 inches of blood. Now i dont get to see them and it makes me angry

[bringbacktheshred]

This whole thing sounds like an absolute shitfight. I don't know too much about the band, nor have I seen them live or anything, but I know when there are too many egos.

[Spiritofmosa]

Funnily enough, apprantly this is what the drummer posted on his myspaec...

"Yes, the rumors are true, I AM NO LONGER THE DRUMMER FOR THE BLACK DAHLIA MURDER........I was asked to leave the band after our last show on the BTBAM/Cephalic Carnage/Into The Moat tour 10/28/05 in Detroit,Michigan,our home...I was quitting anyways and they knew it,they just wanted to save face and beat me to the punch.I'm gonna sound like a total spatula, but anyone that knows me knows that this is the truth and i'm very very far from being a dick head.....BDM is nothing without me,they were nothing until I joined.Had I not joined last year when I did, they never would've continued, and even if they did, half the **** they did with me in the band would've never happened,and Miasma wouldn't have turned out the way it did,they know all of this is true as well, because i've been told by them many a times.I want everyone to know that reads this that Brian from BDM is a total dickhead and doesn't care about anything accept making money,and on top of that, he is not half as good of a musician as you may think,he is one of the most un-talented musicians i've ever played with.He doesn't care about friendships,having fun(Basically really being in a band).....I also want everyone to know that I was shorted about $2500,very ****ty on their part,also a decision made by Brian.They also gave Dave Lock(bass) the boot shortly after me.....Also a very ****ty thing.....I know now who my real friends are and Dave was really the only one outta the band that I could really consider a friend.I've heard many a rumors that Trevor is leaving the band,I hope it's true.I wish nothing but the worst to Brian and his future endeavors.So, for anyone thinking of joining, don't do it unless you're a total ****ing joke of a musician and a person that only cares about making money and nothing else, and not the most important things about being in a band(having fun,REAL friendships and being friends with the people in your band...etc).And for everyone that thinks or have said to me "man, being in bdm must be great....blah blah blah" it wasn't,I made barely any money and lived like a ****ing bum for over a year.I'll be much happier in a band that goes no where making no money than a band that is very well known and not getting ****. I've had some of the best times in my life since I was in BDM, but for every great time there has been a totally ****ty time that made me wanna quit my life because of Brian.I have nothing good to say about Brian, and many of you who read this probably think i'm just sore about being kicked out, but i'm really not,I just want everyone to know the truth so another kid doesn't go and make the mistake I made.Looking back at when Cory was asked to leave, I was good friends with him, and he fore-warned me about Brian and the rest of the bull**** that went on....I wish I would've listened to him.I think i'm pretty much done here,if anyone has any questions about anything, don't be shy to ask, I will hold nothing back......."

wow he sounds pissed. who is brian?

[bringbacktheshred]

I think Brian is the singer/guitarist. Not sure though. Ask a tr00 fan.

[nowitzki]

I'm quite dissapointed that they left(or got kicked out) of the band I was really looking forward to seeing them next Thursday with 3 inches of blood. Now i dont get to see them and it makes me angry

Damn, that really sucks, hopefully you still get to see 3IOB, they are awesome, I've seen them live 3 times :cool:

wow he sounds pissed. who is brian?

I think Brian is guitarist, the vocalist is called Trevor.