Featured Artist #29: Mötley Crüe

[Dave de Sylvia]

Warning: You are now entering a zone which contains opinions and personal preferences. A sense of humour is required. If you’ve mislaid your sense of humour, or do not own one, valium comes highly recommend.

Now, On With The Show…

The sub-genre generally referred to as “hair metal” is as misleading as they come. Despite the great hair, the matter of whether the majority of the bands could be referred to as “metal” is debatable; that the genre descended into a soft-rock self-parody is well-known, and it is this “album composed entirely power ballads” approach which remainds the sustaining image of what hair metal sounded like. Can images be heard? Anyway, the “hair” label was a manufactured one, a media fabrication. So too was the image, but it was a self-fabrication. One of the bands that can be said to have founded the genre, LA band Mötley Crüe, were never the most extravagantly dressed of the bands, but they helped pioneer the early 80s glam look; the “street rat with makeup” look. For a while at least, Mötley Crüe were a unique band.

Their second major release, 1983’s Shout At The Devil, brought the new music to the forefront of the mainstream with a loud bang. It was as pure a heavy metal album as there is. Far from the self-indulgent mass produce which 80s heavy metal became as the decade came to an end, Shout was a different album. It was shocking. Pentagrams and heavy metal go together like parents’ groups, rabid censorship and a surge in album sales and the vinyl release of Shout came emblazoned with a pentagram visible only when held at a forty-five degree angle. The world would never be the same again.

The Crüe were by no means the cheesiest, the most outrageous, the poppiest or the most technically proficient of the “hair” bands, but they were the most influential of the bands (the genre crapped out in the mid-80’s when they did and didn’t recover until it was too late). They were never a flashy band musically, unlike the majority of their peers. Simplicity was, and still is, the defining characteristic of Mötley Crüe’s music that separates them from their peers. Sixx and Lee (often characterised as one of hard rock’s best drummers – a controversial point for most of his peers) combined to form a crude but effective rhythm section, while guitarist Mick Mars filled the gaps, leading to a very minimalist approach, an approach rarely taken by other bands of the time.

The story of Mötley Crüe as a band can be split into three distinct categories: the early, pre-mainstream period; the substantial middle portion, the party years, during which the band saw most of their success through coke and heroin-tinted glasses; and the strenuous latter era, during which the band fell hard from grace and was plagued by depatures and in-fighting. Be warned, I have 25 years to cover, so detail may be scant and uneven in places.

The early years: 1981-1984

After leaving his band London (which would later feature Izzy Stradlin and Slash of Guns N’ Roses and Cinderella drummer Fred Coury) early in 1981, Nikki Sixx (born Frank Ferrano) was introduced to 18-year old Tommy Lee. It’s uncertain at this stage whether Tommy was known exclusively for his penis size. Updates as they cum… They soon recruited "loud, rude, aggressive guitarist" Mick Mars (as he described himself in a classified) and a schoolmate of Tommy’s, Vince Neil, who took vocal duties.

Success obviously followed, because in November of the same year the band pressed a limited run of 20,000 copies of their debut album Too Fast For Love on their own label, Leathür Records. The album cover featured Vince’s leather-clad crotch, much to the delight of make-up wearing boys everywhere, and probably less women. \m/ More important a detail is the speed at which the album sold. Within 3 months, the band had sold all 20,000 copies, earning them a deal with Elektra Records. The album was remixed, re-arranged and re-released in August of 1982.

Too Fast For Love is far disconnected from the typical Mötley Crüe image; it’s raw and it’s tight, even sleazy, but it’s closer to Hanoi Rocks and The Raspberries than Van Halen. It’s a short slice of poppy punk grandeur, combining strong melodies with peppy guitar riffs and shouty choruses. The album sold well, but made little sustaining impact outside of California.

Recommended tracks: Too Fast For Love; Starry Eyes; Live Wire

Eager to capitalise on what little headway they had made, the band went back to the studio with producer Tom Werman to produce a follow up. The album saw the band take a major shift towards the heavy metal style of British bands Iron Maiden, Judas Priest et al. The fusion with glam’s pop sensibilities made this form of heavy metal bearable to trained ears, without going to OTT extremes of power metal. The result, Shout At The Devil was the breakthrough the band had been searching for. With lyrical themes such as murdering rapists (Bastard), police brutality (Knock ‘Em Dead Kid), blowjobs (10 Seconds To Love… yes, it’s that subtle) and rioting in general (Red Hot, Danger), the album was downright edgy.

It was the singles which would prove most controversial, however. Anti-Satan song Shout At The Devil was denounced as “satanic”; while the video for Looks That Kill oozed hellfire. Parents hated them; kids loved them – rock n’ roll history in a nutshell. A massively successful festival tour coincided with the album’s release, elevating the band to heights hitherto unknown for a heavy rock band. Mötley Crüe were young, rich, famous and fabulous. The world was at their feet.

Recommended tracks: Shout At The Devil; Looks That Kill; Too Young To Fall In Love

[Dave de Sylvia]

Tragically, on December 8th 1984, Vince Neil, drunk and speeding, crashed his car in the Malibu Beach area, killing Hanoi Rocks drummer Razzle Dingley, his front-seat passenger.

1985-1992

It’s best not to mention Theatre of Pain, so I won’t. Needless to say it contained the ultimate power ballad in Home Sweet Home, but little else. Real Crüe fans prefer to pretend it doesn’t exist, but curious record-buyers have often been fooled by its apparent reality. Girls, Girls, Girls was an improvement, but not enough to warrant any serious analysis. The band’s sound had evolved (or devolved) from ballsy metal to whatever ToP was to the polished rockabilly glam that was GGG. Luckily, Tom Werman was fired before any more damage could be sustained.

Recommended tracks: Home Sweet Home; Girls, Girls, Girls; Wild Side; You’re All I Need

[Note to owners of Red, White And Crüe: The tracklisting on that compilation may have led you to believe that something of worth other than HSH could be hauled from Theatre of Pain – don’t fall for it.]

A period of collective rehab and the onset of Mick Mars’ degenerative bone disorder preceded the recording of the band’s fifth studio album, Bob Rock-produced Dr. Feelgood. Everybody should have heard the title track, which exhibited a confident swagger only sporadically seen on the previous efforts, and this album was certainly a return to form for a band in trouble. They managed to extract 5 hit singles from the album, among which was some of the band’s most enduring material.

Recommended tracks: Dr. Feelgood; Kickstart My Heart; Primal Scream

Internal politics led to Vince Neil leaving to pursue a solo career in 1992.

1994 – date

Vince was replaced by John Corabi, formerly of relative unknowns The Scream, and the band recorded their sixth, self-titled, album (known as MC94). The addition of Corabi as a second guitarist opened up hitherto unexplored territories for the band and the end product saw a much heavier Crüe emerge, suiting Corabi’s more spirited vocal style. The album began well but ultimately fell short of being a hit. Nonetheless, the band saw fit to continue with Corabi at the helm, and began to work on a new album, tentatively entitled “Personality #9”. Midway into the sessions, Corabi was dropped and Vince Neil was re-instated. The Crabby era had come to an end.

Recommended tracks: Hooligan’s Holiday; Misunderstood; Poison Apples

Working with Skinny Puppy producer Scott Humphries (not the jazz guy), the band continued the same sessions, now writing material with Neil. As Mick Mars became increasingly marginalised, the project became dominated by Humphries, Nikki Sixx and Tommy Lee, who used it as an outlet for their more experimental sides. The result was a progression from MC94, with heavy, chugging riffs combined with industrial sounds and synthesised instruments as well as unconventional arrangements. The fans hated it. It’s one of my favourite albums of all time.

Recommended tracks: Generation Swine; Let Us Prey; Find Myself

Two new songs on the Greatest Hits release constituted the last of Tommy Lee’s contribution to the band before his departure for… yeah, a hip-hop career (and an awful one at that). Randy Castillo took over as drummer for New Tattoo, a dullbutpleasant radio rock album that never made it to radio, remaining as drummer until his death in 2002. Tommy rejoined the remaining three in 2004 and recorded three new songs (one a Rolling Stones cover) for a new, expanded, comprehensive greatest hits package, Red, White And Crüe.
Recommended tracks: Bitter Pill; New Tattoo; Sick Love Song

The subsequent tour was the surprise hit of the year, demand outstripping supply to the point where dozens of additional shows still left many disappointed. It remains one of 2005’s highest grossing tours.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Tommy Lee:

In addition to the ill-advised nu-metal project Methods of Mayhem (formed with rapper TiLo), Tommy has released two solo albums to date: Never A Dull Moment in 2002 and Tommyland: The Ride, in 2005. The former was a primarily solo effort, while the latter is a largely collaborative effort, featuring guest spots from Butch Walker, Chad Kroeger (of Nickelback), Andrew McMahon (of Something Corporate), Nick Carter (of the Backstreet Boys) and Joel Madden (of Good Charlotte). Singles were taken from the MoM album and from the latest release. Tryin’ To Be Me (featuring Chad Kroeger) is the current single, while Good Times charted in the US Top 100 and featured Butch Walker. In a seemingly unintentional case of irony, Tryin’ To Be Me sees Tommy’s and Kroeger’s voices completely indistinguishable from one another.

Vince Neil:

Vince was the first member to leave the band, leaving in 1992 to record his debut solo album, Exposed, released the following year. His band featured Steve Stevens, Billy Idol’s ex-guitarist, Robbie Crane and Vik Foxx. Regardless, the album was a commercial failure, as was its follow-up Carved In Stone, released in 1995. The same year, Vince’s daughter Skylar passed away, succumbing to cancer at the age of four. In a gripping and heartbreaking piece of prose, Vince describes his daughter’s last days at length in band autobiography The Dirt, today dubbed “the heavy metal bible.”

Mick Mars:

Mick was diagnosed at the age of 19 with a rare degenerative bone condition called Ankylosing Spondylitis, an agonising condition which causes the victim’s bones to slowly fuse together over time. This condition, combined with the hedonistic lifestyle the band lived, led Mick to descend into alcoholism. He’s been sober since 1989. In 2004, Mick required a hip replacement, but returned early in 2005 for the Red, White And Crüe tour.

Nikki Sixx:

As the band’s chief songwriter and creative force, it’s surprising that (aside from obvious exception Mick) Nikki has been the most reluctant to pursue a solo career, his only two side projects coming since the release of the last Mötley Crüe record. Though it’s true both Lee and Neil left the band to pursue solo aspirations, it’s still surprising that Nikki’s first solo effort didn’t materialise until 2000, and even that project wasn’t intended to become an entire album. 58’s Diet For A New America, in fact, preceded New Tattoo. The album was recorded with Sixx’s brother-in-law-twice-removed-or-something, rock producer David Darling, but fizzled out after the Crüe reassembled for the tour. Four years later, a project involving Nikki, Tracii Guns (ex-LA Guns), Adema’s Kris Kohl and young New York singer London LeGrand recorded an album under the moniker “Brides of Destruction.” Though Nikki left the band in 2005 to return to the Crüe full-time, the band continues with an altered line-up.

Next year will see the release of The Heroin Diaries, a book derived by Sixx from his own writings between ’86 and ’87, at the height of his addiction.

Discography:
[Thanks to sputnikmusic.com]

LPs:
Too Fast For Love (1982) (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=3086)
Shout At The Devil (1983) (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=2242)
Theatre Of Pain (1985)
Girls, Girls. Girls (1986)
Dr. Feelgood (1989) (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=3319)
Mötley Crüe (1994)
Generation Swine (1997) (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=2790)
New Tattoo (2000) (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=3635)

Compilations:
Decade Of Decadence (1991)
Greatest Hits (1998) (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=3643)
Supersonic & Demonic Relics (1999)
Music To Crash Your Car To, Vol. 1 (2003)
Music To Crash Your Car To, Vol. 2 (2004)
Red, White And Crüe (2005)

Tommy Lee:
Methods of Mayhem – Methods of Mayhem (1999)
Never A Dull Moment (2002)
Tommyland: The Ride (2005) (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=3455)

Vince Neil:
Exposed (1993)
Carved In Stone (1995)
Live One Night Only (2003)

Nikki Sixx:
58 – Diet For A New America (2000)
Brides Of Destruction – Here Come The Brides (2004)

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I had the best-of, but deleted it due to lack of hdd space.

Livewire is a great song.

[-The Frank]

how did Randy Castillo die?

[StreetlightRock]

Ah, the Crue. One of the ultimate Sleezy, 80's Rock N' Roll bands ever. Awsome write up.

Random Fact: The riff off Dont Go Away Mad is said to be the basis of the "popular" song Bohemian Like You, By Dandy Warhols.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Randy Castillo died of cancer.

The riff from Bohemian Like You is the Don't Go Away Mad riff, note for note.

[superpeer]

Much respect to Tommy Lee for dating Pam. :)

AND beating her up.

Nice write up, glam boy.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Did you even read it? :p

But yeah, I should add a section for all the girls Tommy has punched. There's a great story of how he punched his first almost wife, if only I can remember.

[superpeer]

I read parts of it. (a)

[Shattered_Future]

Bwahahahaha, its the Crue...:p

Good writeup. I have a couple of albums by them, which are decent...they never really struck a chord with me, but I never dismissed them either.

[Tommi Hendrix]

cRÜE owns

[GenuineImitation]

Motley Crue is a really fun band to listen to.

NP: Kickstart my Heart

[Kage]

Honestly, I hate Motley Crue and most bands like them.

Good write up, anyway, though. :)

[sandman420]

Motley Crue is awesome.

[RobJones]

Amazing stage show on aforementioned tour. amazing band.

[Riva]

I had the oppurtunity to see Motorhead, but since they were supporting Motley Crue, I didn't go. Probably speaks wonders about my thoughts on this band. I much prefer the other hair metal acts, to be honest.

[Arrakakaka]

Honestly, I hate Motley Crue and most bands like them.

Good write up, anyway, though. :)
True comment man, Mötley Crüe are very overrated. But very good write-up.

[blue3]

Nice work on the FA. I like Motley Crue. I have a few of their albums, I listen to Red, White and Crue most though. Theatre of Pain also has 'Smokin in the Boys Room', right? It shouldn't be that bad..

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I had the oppurtunity to see Motorhead, but since they were supporting Motley Crue, I didn't go.
Same.

I wouldn't pay the price of admission just to see Lemmy and co. support.

[Sebek]

Motley Crue is pretty damn good in my book. I'm still waiting for The Dirt : 2 to come out, and the alleged movie.

[Jon]

They're likez my favourite band except Hanoi Rocks and Cinderella :eek:

[Dave de Sylvia]

I much prefer the other hair metal acts, to be honest.
Well then there's hope for you :)

True comment man, Mötley Crüe are very overrated.
I didn't know many around here rated them at all

Theatre of Pain also has 'Smokin in the Boys Room', right? It shouldn't be that bad..
Yeah, but it has nothing else. The only other song from it on RWC is Use It Or Lose It, which shows just how horrible the rest of the album is.

Motley Crue is pretty damn good in my book. I'm still waiting for The Dirt : 2 to come out, and the alleged movie.
Do you mean The Heroin Diaries? I'm not sure where the movie is right now; it's still down as 'in production' as far as I know. They don't want it toned down for movie audiences.

They're likez my favourite band except Hanoi Rocks and Cinderella
Aye, you'll learn eventually :)

[Ibanez Slayer]

Motley Crue is ok, i like girls girls girls, and their rendition of smoking in the boys room, and home sweet home (i figured that out last night on piano) and a couple of their other stuff. but they pretty much seem like the epidimy of glam metal

[Dave de Sylvia]

:confused:

But you just picked songs from their only albums which were that bad. If you want the epitome of glam metal you go to Cinderella or Poison or someone.

[Sebek]

Do you mean The Heroin Diaries? I'm not sure where the movie is right now; it's still down as 'in production' as far as I know. They don't want it toned down for movie audiences.


No, at the end of The Dirt there's a line saying that The Dirt 2 "insert title I forget here" is coming out at some point.

[lionelhutz88]

they're different from the other "hair" bands, but they still annoy the hell out of me.

[Dave de Sylvia]

No, at the end of The Dirt there's a line saying that The Dirt 2 "insert title I forget here" is coming out at some point.
I think that point is a very long way away. Tommy's and Nikki's books will be as close as you'll get.

[morrison357]

Don't really like them
but good FA anyway

[Dave de Sylvia]

Err... so I finished Chuck Klosterman's Fargo Rock City at some ungodly hour this morning. Brilliant book, he said a lot of what I've been saying about glam metal. He's a genius.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Who has seen them on their reunion tour? Anyone?

[Dave de Sylvia]

I have! Sailed the high seas, I did. Unforgettable night, truly. I hope it's the first of many.

[guitarded_chuck]

Eww, dirty hair metal.

PS hair metal = 80's pop.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Well that's hardly a well-thought out opinion :(

What's wrong with pop?

[guitarded_chuck]

Well that's hardly a well-thought out opinion :(

What's wrong with pop?
Nothing, really. I should of said that hair metal isn't really metal, but 80's pop.

Good FA though, by the way.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Thanks :)

But why isn't it metal? I don't see how the Crue could be classed as anything but, if you've actually listened to the music.

[guitarded_chuck]

Thanks :)

But why isn't it metal? I don't see how the Crue could be classed as anything but, if you've actually listened to the music.
Well, firstly genres really don't mean anything, and I agree they shouldn't be classed as anything but Motley Crue.

But metal is usually louder, with rough and tough themes. Hair metal is more about partying and getting laid. :) Which is cool, but I wouldn't really say it is metal. It was more like the pop of it's time.

It is what it is.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Well it was pop-metal, which is still metal in my book. Like Metallica is today.

You should listen to Shout At The Devil. If Satan, rioting and murdering rapists isn't metal, I don't know what is, and it has the sound to match.

[guitarded_chuck]

Haha, fair enough. Will do.

[Jon]

Aye, you'll learn eventually :)
Dave, what the **** could you teach me about glam? Except Butch Walker maybe.

[Sebek]

Jon, you have any Hanoi albums you'd be willing to send my way via AIM? I only have what I've been able to get through Limewire :(

[Dave de Sylvia]

Dave, what the **** could you teach me about glam? Except Butch Walker maybe.
I could teach you that Cinderella suck :cool:

[Jon]

Sure, I have all the Hanoi albums that I'd be willing to send you on AIM or MSN or whatever.
I could teach you that Cinderella suck :cool:
Christ, don't distill me or anything :p

[Sebek]

Sure, I have all the Hanoi albums that I'd be willing to send you on AIM or MSN or whatever.



Thanks a ton, I'll look for you next time I'm on if that's ok.

[Jon]

I'm on now if you want something

[lucky luciano]

Who has seen them on their reunion tour? Anyone?

I had second row seats, took a shot off the jager bottle tommy threw to us and got two of nikki sixx's guitar picks. It was the best show Ive ever seen. Got a lot of pics on my phone too:thumb:

[blue3]

That's cool. Post the pictures?

I borrowed my friends Motley Crue DVD. It's the Greatest Video hits, it's awesome.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Aye, I have that DVD too. I love the Looks That Kill and Too Young To Fall In Love videos. The latter just makes no sense at all.

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If anyone wants to watch the video for Home Sweet Home with Chester Bennington... do so at your peril.

http://music.aol.com/artist/main.adp?artistid=4964#

[Son of Northern Darkness]

I cannot Stand the new Motley Crue! Their new "Shock Rock" image is pathetic! They should stick to what they know! They were so awesome! Pitty that Vince Neil is such Douche...

[Dave de Sylvia]

Ummm, they've been shock rock for about 22 years... I like the new image; it's just camp enough to work.

[Son of Northern Darkness]

Ummm, they've been shock rock for about 22 years... I like the new image; it's just camp enough to work.

Yeah but they don't have the same sort of "Shock Rock " image anymore if you get what I mean.... Their image now is like a direct rip-off of Murderdolls and Wednesday 13....I dunno, doesn't work for me. And their new music certainly doesn't either...

[Dave de Sylvia]

The new image is a rip off of a lot of things; it's primarily a Moulin Rouge theme but it has elements of acts from Rammstein to Slipknot. Remember the Murderdolls draw hugely from the Crue to begin with. The current image is just an update of the Shout At The Devil days.

[Son of Northern Darkness]

The new image is a rip off of a lot of things; it's primarily a Moulin Rouge theme but it has elements of acts from Rammstein to Slipknot. Remember the Murderdolls draw hugely from the Crue to begin with. The current image is just an update of the Shout At The Devil days.

I knew I was gonna get it when I said they ripp off Murderdolls coz it is Obvious that the Murderdolls got their image from them.... I don't know. Maybe it's just Vince Neil and the bad music that gets to me....

[Dave de Sylvia]

I'm not a huge fan of the last album, but I like the new songs from RWC, Sick Love Song moreso than If I Die... I'm yet to find another who appreciates the genius of Generation Swine :(

[Son of Northern Darkness]

I'm not a huge fan of the last album, but I like the new songs from RWC, Sick Love Song moreso than If I Die... I'm yet to find another who appreciates the genius of Generation Swine :(

Good luck dude!

[Jon]

Haha Generation Swine.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Haha Tom Kiefer

[Interstate]

Nice FA. I've been wanting to buy a Motley Crue album for a while after hearing a few of their songs a couple of years ago. Good stuff.

[Dave de Sylvia]

What songs did you hear? Red White And Crue would probably be your best bet if you're in to the hits, but if you're the indie kid I think you are, Too Fast For Love might be more ideal.

[Son of Northern Darkness]

What songs did you hear? Red White And Crue would probably be your best bet if you're in to the hits, but if you're the indie kid I think you are, Too Fast For Love might be more ideal.

Dr. Feelgood.... Or Shout at the Devil! Definately!
Kickstart my Heart is just AWESOME!

[Dave de Sylvia]

I'm not a huge fan of Dr. Feelgood. Aside from Kickstart, I think all the songs were badly recorded. The songs themselves are generally good, but I can't listen to crap like She Goes Down.

TFFL is just perfect :cool:

[Son of Northern Darkness]

HaHa! Yeah, "She goes down" is a bit much!
Girls girls girls is cool too! Wild Side is SO cool!

[Dave de Sylvia]

The first 2 and last 3 songs on GGG are quality, the middle is crap. For some reason noone loves the Jailhouse Rock cover :( Wild Side and GGG are pop classics, despite the massive amount of cheese.

[Son of Northern Darkness]

The first 2 and last 3 songs on GGG are quality, the middle is crap. For some reason noone loves the Jailhouse Rock cover :( Wild Side and GGG are pop classics, despite the massive amount of cheese.

CHEEESE!!! That's what I want! Quality CHEESE!!!!:D

[flyhalf]

excellent write up mate :thumb: , hope this stays here for another day or two, because i have to show my bassist this post. He's the huge hair metal/crue fan in my band (nikki is one of his biggest influences).

As for me, i lean more towards the guns n roses and van halen side of the 80's, but in some ways the crue also falls into that category. I guess i've got respect for the crue...they were the 'party hard' attitude that metal was looking for in the 80's :)

and I am going to that motley crue concert when it comes to sydney :smash:

[Dave de Sylvia]

It'll be stickied for another week or so, until the next article is put up.

i lean more towards the guns n roses and van halen side of the 80's
But they're opposites :confused: I'd put the Crue further towards GnR than Van Halen though; more sleazy than polished.

[.:satanic_heroin_user:.]

does ne one like the new motley crue cd?:wave:

[Dave de Sylvia]

New Tattoo? That's not very new :-\

If you mean Red, White And Crue... then I'd assume everyone in here does, seeing as it's a Best Of.

[flyhalf]

It'll be stickied for another week or so, until the next article is put up.


But they're opposites :confused: I'd put the Crue further towards GnR than Van Halen though; more sleazy than polished.

yer opposites but the 80's are kinda divided into 3 or 4 contrasting 'metal' forms (for me anyway)...i got guns n roses, van halen, motley crue and then all that heavier, power metal stuff (iron maiden, judas priest, metallica, megadeth etc.)

i know some people may see this as a bit of a hazy perspective, but it's how i hear the 80's :p

[PrimalScream]

Bittersuite is a great solo track by Mick. Ive seen them twice. They are a good live band. Mick doesn't move around much cuz of his disease, but he did a cool solo before Kickstart My Heart. Tommy has a lot of energy. Vince's vocals could be better.

[lucky luciano]

why do people come to a motley crue thread if they don't even like them? Do they not have anything better to do?

[Son of Northern Darkness]

yer opposites but the 80's are kinda divided into 3 or 4 contrasting 'metal' forms (for me anyway)...i got guns n roses, van halen, motley crue and then all that heavier, power metal stuff (iron maiden, judas priest, metallica, megadeth etc.)

i know some people may see this as a bit of a hazy perspective, but it's how i hear the 80's :p

:confused: Megadeth, Metallica, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden - POWER METAL!!??? :confused:

[Reywas]

yer opposites but the 80's are kinda divided into 3 or 4 contrasting 'metal' forms (for me anyway)...i got guns n roses, van halen, motley crue and then all that heavier, power metal stuff (iron maiden, judas priest, metallica, megadeth etc.)

i know some people may see this as a bit of a hazy perspective, but it's how i hear the 80's :p


you should do your homework better :thumb:

metallica power :thumb: that's a cardinal my friend

Actually I'll do your homework for you:

-the 80's actually feature the making of death, black, grind, thrash, power, doom the rise and fall of classic heavy metal and rise of hair metal and late 80's feature the beginnings of industrial metal.

Iron Maiden - Classic Heavy Metal
Judas Priest - Classic Heavy Metal
Metallica - Thrash Metal
Megadeth - Thrash Metal

So you see no power at all.Iron Maiden and Judas Priest are actually at the very core of power metal music but that still doesn't make them power metal.

So you get

1.5/5 and I'm being generous

[Son of Northern Darkness]

you should do your homework better :thumb:

metallica power :thumb: that's a cardinal my friend

Reality! Metallica is NOT!!! NOT!!! NOT!!! Power Metal!

[Reywas]

Oh I'm sorry I should have written a cardinal mistake for you to understand better.Terribly sorry.

[Dark_Hero]

I have a friend who's name is Nikki and his middle name is Sixx, his brothers name is Tommy and his middle name is Lee.

[Dave de Sylvia]

If they're also heroin addicts that's just the most rock n' roll thing ever. :cool:

[Jon]

I have a friend who's name is Nikki and his middle name is Sixx, his brothers name is Tommy and his middle name is Lee.
I would like to meet these individuals

["5150"]

I'm not a huge fan of Dr. Feelgood. Aside from Kickstart, I think all the songs were badly recorded. The songs themselves are generally good, but I can't listen to crap like She Goes Down.

TFFL is just perfect :cool:

I think Dr. Feelgood is mixed and recorded alot better than any Crue album released before. I mean, check out how well Home Sweet Home was recorded with Tom Werman as producer compared to Kickstart My Heart with Bob Rock.

I agree with you on 'She Goes Down', it's ridiculous, but that aside i'd say Dr. Feelgood is up there with SATD and TFFL (aaah too many acronyms).

Last but not least, ****ing awesome FA dude! :thumb:

[Dave de Sylvia]

That's the problem, to be honest. Part of the reason those first two records are so good is the way they were recorded, not so slick like Bob Rock's albums. I love the way Vince's vocals are recorded, where the echo is almost too noticable at times.

Scott Humphries > Tom Werman > Bob Rock :cool:

Edit: And thanks! :)

[blue3]

I have a friend who's name is Nikki and his middle name is Sixx, his brothers name is Tommy and his middle name is Lee.I have a friend who owns a dog named Nikki Sixx.

[Dave de Sylvia]

"Treat Me Like The Dog I Am"

"I Wanna Be Your Dog
I Wanna Be Your Maaaan"

Are you sure it's a dog and not the actual Nikki Sixx?

[blue3]

It's probably Nikki Sixx.

[World_Ablaze]

Along with Iron Maiden The Crue are one of the best bands i've seen live. There was so much going on i couldn't keep my head still for longer that 5 seconds and my gf got on Tommy's Titty cam and he told me i should be very proud :cool: :lol:
They played all the hits plus some covers and new songs. It was amazing. It was really cool seeing them in the flesh.

Edit: Spat out plath, you're from ireland aren't you? Did you catch Tommy Lee on the Frank Skinner show the other night?

[Dave de Sylvia]

You got pics of that? 8-o

The Crue are amazing live, and the tittiecam is a wonderful addition to the show.

And yeah, I'm Irish but I didn't see him on Frank Skinner, I don't even have basic cable at the moment :( I'll see if I can record a repeat or something :)

[World_Ablaze]

You got pics of that? 8-o

The Crue are amazing live, and the tittiecam is a wonderful addition to the show.

And yeah, I'm Irish but I didn't see him on Frank Skinner, I don't even have basic cable at the moment :( I'll see if I can record a repeat or something :)

Yes i have... how much? :p

You didn't miss too much, He was just talking about generic Crue escapades. Ozzy was on aswell, so they were talking about the famous ant snorting incident heh. But it was quite entertaining.
The best one was when tommy and vince were on friday noght with johnathan ross and they got an audince member to get her tits out :lol:

Is anyone going to watch 'Tommy lee goes to college'?

[Dave de Sylvia]

Yes i have... how much? :p
You can enter the fellowship of the \m/ :p

I remember that JR, it was a riot. Did you see them on TRL during the summer? Mick spent the entire interview playing the part of a Japanese man. Tommy Lee Goes To College will be watched by me - have you an idea when/what channel it'll be on?

[World_Ablaze]

You can enter the fellowship of the \m/ :p



yay :D What's the fellowship? :confused:

If my sources prove reliable it starts sometime this week on E4, But i'm sure it'll be on channel 4 aswell.

[Dave de Sylvia]

A fellowship is where a load of man gather round a groupie or two and make creative uses of a telephone. :o

Edit: I'll have to call the cable guy out tomorrow

[World_Ablaze]

A fellowship is where a load of man gather round a groupie or two and make creative uses of a telephone. :o



Hmm... sounds sexy ;)

["5150"]

A fellowship is where a load of man gather round a groupie or two and make creative uses of a telephone.

Hmm I wonder which long haired individuals carried out this activity? :lol:

[blue3]

Is anyone going to watch 'Tommy lee goes to college'?Yeah, I watched that show. It's over now though..

[RockStar34C]

Crue rule.
one of the best shows you'll ever see.
the fact they're selling out shows all over the world in 20 min to an hour all the time, plus selling $400 front row tix, which always get sold out.
more proof that they are one of the Top 5 Greatest rock bands of all time.
A billion fan, millions of records sold. 'nuff said.
Any people who dont think they wrote great songs, are just jealous dip-****s.

[Jon]

My ticket was £45 on eBay.

I got there mid afternoon, so I was front row, standing, for one of my favourite bands. It was great.

It was 1/2 way across the country though, so it cost me just under £100 in total, but it was well, well worth it.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I paid €120 for me and the missus' tickets, plus about €70 each for plane tickets and another €120 on hotels to see the Crue. We never got the front, because we were at the bar when the show started, but we got to within 8-10 people which was close enough. We were on Nikki's side too \m/

The MEN Arena is a wonder-torium.

[TDBOD]

i dont listen to Motley Crue...at all.

[hotter than hell]

Motley Crue are GODS!!!:D and if ne thing, they are under-rated not over-rated:naughty: . they've been through it all, and deserve appreciation, fan or not:thumb: .

[MotliestDude8]

Originally Posted by Spat Out Plath
A fellowship is where a load of man gather round a groupie or two and make creative uses of a telephone. U mean just like motley crue did with a girl by shoving it up here pussy and then letting the other groupie talk to her mom on it