Minority Opinions You Have.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Saw this at another forum...

What opinions do you hold, that you don't necessarily think are held by many other in Rock & Metal?

For me:

Late-era Death is average and overated as hell.
Sean Killian is a great vocalist (On Eternal Nightmare anyway)
Atheist aren't all that great
Tom Araya's vocal performances are crap after Reign In Blood.
Opeth are boring. (Although Masters Apprentices is a good song)

And please try not to flame. It's okay to disagree, but keep in mind we are dealing entriely with opinions here.

[Kurtz]

Metal starts getting boring after a while.

[Jude]

Opeth are boring. (Although Masters Apprentices is a good song)


OMFG U FUKIN DOUCHEWAD **** PIMPLE FAG KILL URSLEF SLIT UR WIRSTS FUKIN EMO

Um....I think 99% of death metal is trash, same for metalcore, 'grind', black, pretty much any metal actually. I like about half a dozen metal bands, including Sabbath, RATM, Van Halen and Rammstein.

I think Hendrix is definitely one of the absolute best guitarists ever...same with Jimmy Page. Maybe they aren't technical wankmasters, but they're much better to listen to.

I think Dredg's new album is really not all that great.

I think no form of music needs more than one adjective in front of its name.

[Permanent Solution]

Tool albums have too much filler to ever be above 4 star albums
Pop-Punk is great music
Metal is not the best music ever made
Porcupine Tree is mediocre at best

[Jude]

Pop-Punk is great music - Can't agree with you on that
Metal is not the best music ever made - definitely agree with you on that, and definitely agree we're in a minority
Porcupine Tree is mediocre at best - omfg fag kill yourself

[Kurtz]

Pop-Punk is great music

Fall Out Boy counts as pop punk, right?

They're not that bad.

[Permanent Solution]

Porcupine Tree is mediocre at best - omfg fag kill yourself
As soon as I saw you post above me I knew that was coming :pFall Out Boy counts as pop punk, right?

They're not that bad.
Yeah, but...they're one of the worse bands imo. Much better stuff out there.

[Bazarov]

I think old school death metal is a lot better than the newer death metal bands.

I think that Led Zep, being a good band are extremely overrated.

I like Pink Floyd's Animals better than Dark Side of the Moon. And I didn't really think The Final Cut was that great.

I've always thought that Iron Maiden weren't that great. Though The Trooper is pretty awesome.

I find Dragonforce rather boring.

Old Cannibal Corpse>New Cannibal Corpse. I like older CC's stuff, but I like Corpsegrinder's vocals more than Chris'.

Though Reign in Blood is Slayer's most famous CD, it is not it's greatest. I believe that Hell Awaits was when Slayer were at the top of their thrashing game.

[magicbus]

I didn't think Porcupine Tree was very interesting.

[Jom]

There is some good nu-metal in the music community.

I don't need to attend shows to "enhance my musical experience."

" " " drugs " " " " " ".

There is nothing wrong with drop-tuning.

[Illmatic]

Maynard James Keenan isn't as great a vocalist as Tool fans insist he is---he has his moments, but that nauseating, breathy, halting croon of his is ****ing abysmal, imo.

Hip-hop is a damn good music genre.

[Kingofdudes]

I prefer abstact Metal to most other metal (Age of Silence, Solefald > Arch Enemy, Children of Bodom, Metallica, etc)
I dont see why people are annoyed by metal genre Nazis, when they dont even like Metal.
I like A Momentary Lapse of Reason and the Final Cut.
I think people on here bitch too much about "wankery"
Syd Barret isnt all that great.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

Um....I think 99% of death metal is trash, same for metalcore, 'grind', black, pretty much any metal actually. I like about half a dozen metal bands, including Sabbath, RATM, Van Halen and Rammstein.


And you just haven't listened hard enough if you honestly think 99% of metal is just thrash with a different name. And from the bands you listed as metal, I highly doubt you have heard a large variety of metal.

Van Halen =/= metal.


My opinions :

Opeth is boring to me, minus a few songs here and there.
Joe Satriani is not shred.
Just because a band has a "core" label to them does not mean they suck.
Suffocation is quite boring.

/high fives KoD's for liking The Final Cut and A Momentary Lapse of Reason and about Syd Barret

[Illmatic]

Syd Barret isnt all that great.

There is one person in R+M who will disagree with you, and we all know who that is.

Another one: I am firmly in the middle ground in regards to Dream Theater; I can give them more credit than most of their critics do, but I really can't stand them. If that makes sense at all.

[Permanent Solution]

I don't need to attend shows to "enhance my musical experience."

Does that mean you aren't going? :(

[Steerpike]

Metallica makes me want to hurt people. Specifically, Metallica.
I actually rather like Dimmu Borgir.
Same goes for some pop-punk bands.
Steve Vai puts me to sleep.
Michale Graves is every bit as good a vocalist as Glenn Danzig.
Nirvana wasn't that bad.
Criss Oliva deserves guitar hero status.
I couldn't give a rat's *** about the Metallica/Megadeth feud.
Hair metal is still metal.
No, playing Stairway to Heaven will not get you laid. Swallow a knife.
Matt Barlow was not Iced Earth. Just an awesome vocalist they had.

[periculosus]

I think no form of music needs more than one adjective in front of its name.

that is so true and i totally agree wats the deal with all those ambiguationes for each genre and even subgenres.

metal indeed is not the best music made nut its quite good.

pop-punk and emo suck!!!!! they give punk a bad name!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't think Porcupine Tree was very interesting.
disagree!!!!!!!

[Jom]

Does that mean you aren't going? :(

Undecided.

The room only holds 400 people, and that doesn't include the stage/set. I highly doubt I can just walk up and be like, "Hey," and they'll let me in, not with the raging fangirls that absolutely cream their jeans over the headlining act.

[Illmatic]

Also, Sgt. Pepper's was a lousy album.
Megadeth, Metallica, and Slayer are all rather underwhelming.
Iron Maiden is hilarious.

[manuscriptreplica]

95% of music labelled as 'progressive' bores the hell out of me

Heavy metal isn't really 'heavy' at all, and about 99% of it bores me.

[Kurtz]

Another one: I am firmly in the middle ground in regards to Dream Theater; I can give them more credit than most of their critics do, but I really can't stand them. If that makes sense at all.
You respect their talent, but you don't like them.

Simple.

[Permanent Solution]

pop-punk and emo suck!!!!! they give punk a bad name!!!!!!!!!!
God I want to neg you so bad right now.
I actually rather like Dimmu Borgir.
Same goes for some pop-punk bands.
Nirvana wasn't that bad.
Criss Oliva deserves guitar hero status.

Agreed. Others aren't necessarily disagreeing, but these stood out.

Jom: Aw :( You really should try, I do think you're missing out, and you never know till you try. :)

[Jom]

I have a strange fascination with power metal, even if I don't understand what the hell the lyrics are about.

Save for X-Japan and some God Forbid, I have not liked any R&M band that is made up of or dominated by members whose origins trace back to Africa and/or Asia.

I have not heard a single Beatles song straight-through, just snippets of many.

I am the walrus.

Jom: Aw :( You really should try, I do think you're missing out, and you never know till you try. :)

I don't think my interest in going will increase by the time the date rolls around, but we'll see. I just know that it's going to be congested as all hell.

[Kurtz]

Coheed and Cambria are in fact, good music.

[Illmatic]

You respect their talent, but you don't like them.

Simple.

Well, I mean "talent" more than simply "Portnoy is a good drummer, Petrucci is a good guitarist, etc."....they actually do have a good degree of composition skills, it's just that they're totally unbearable.

[Moses]

I think that 80% of the forum can't tell a trained singer from an untrained singer.

[Amit]

Dream Theater is nowhere near as talented as their fans think they are.

[Permanent Solution]

I don't think my interest in going will increase by the time the date rolls around, but we'll see. I just know that it's going to be congested as all hell.
That's what makes it fun! Really, it sounds lame, but try it out.

I'm not PMS :(

[Kingofdudes]

Dream Theater is nowhere near as talented as their fans think they are.
Im not sure if that is a minority opnion these days, every Dream Theater post I see in here is usually a bash post.

[Amit]

Im not sure if that is a minority opnion these days, every Dream Theater post I see in here is usually a bash post.

Everyone is just trying to compensate for the huge flying castle of false pretentions that Dream Theater fanboys tend to live in. They tend to be the most vocal ones, too, unfortunately.

[Steerpike]

Dashboard Confessional, et al do not count as real emo bands. They're just a bunch of pusses who want 14-year-old girls' money.

[Amit]

Oh, and the fastest and most technical guitarists are definitely not shredders.

I like this thread a lot :D

[Up The Irons]

Symphony X is really boring

[Moses]

Symphony X is really boring
Now you've crossed the line..... /shakes fist

:angry: :angry: :angry:

/angry

I think you're boring....

/sticks out tongue

[Kage]

Metallica makes me want to hurt people. Specifically, Metallica.
:lol: So true, so true.

[black\m/metal]

Black metal is deeper and more technical than
people give it credit for.

Tool is nothing special

Cynic was on of the best bands ever.

[Moses]

I actually rather like Dimmu Borgir.

I like them too. Even their new stuff is tolerable. I love the Burn in Hell cover.

[Killtacular]

All hair metal is pure ****.

Daydream Nation isn't that great and is vastly overrated.

Ozzy isn't that great, and neither is Blizzard of Ozz.

Mmmm... that's all for now.

[Illmatic]

All hair metal is pure ****.

Jon is the only person who will disagree with you there.

Daydream Nation isn't that great and is vastly overrated.

Alt/Indie is that way ---------->

[FlyingPaul_83]

tool isnt that good.
Pink Floyds Animals > all their other albums
I've probably only listened to 7 dream theater songs all the way through
AC/DC is very mediocre
Classic rock bores me.

remember, they're just opinions. ;)

more to come

[BillCosby]

I think that 80% of the forum can't tell a trained singer from an untrained singer.

I prefer untrained singers with unique voices than trained singers.

[Moses]

Jon is the only person who will disagree with you there.
Wrong, my friend. I checked out some early Pantera and I thought it really kicked *** and I don't know why...... Still most hair metal is ****.

[Kage]

AC/DC is very mediocre
Classic rock bores me.
Agreed with both of these.

[Bazarov]

tool isnt that good.
Pink Floyds Animals > all their other albums

YAY! Though because I don't have all their albums, out of all the ones I have that is my favorite, I used to thin I was alone on that, most of my friends that like Pink Floyd didn't like that album.

[Moses]

I've probably only listened to 7 dream theater songs all the way through

remember, they're just opinions. ;)

Not an opinion.

[Nostalgia]

Jimi hendrix is a good guitarist but extremley overated.

Behemoth get annoying fast

Metal has progressed worse over the years

Nile would mediocre if it wasn't for their lyrics

[Kingofdudes]

I dont see how people can find all/most of a genre boring/terrible/etc. I guess im just not picky.

[Illmatic]

Pink Floyds Animals > all their other albums

You claim that classic rock is boring, then say that the most boring album Pink Floyd ever made is their best.

I don't get it.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

I don't get the big hype and such with NIN, I personally think the music isn't that great.

Kalmah is pretty "meh" to me.

Dillinger Escape Plan is pretty boring as well.

Meshuggah is overrated with their 3 note 5 minute long palm muted riffs.

[Amit]

Meshuggah...All they give me is a polymetric headache.

[Moses]

There haven't been many things I've agreed with anything on. Alex has my closest opinions though.

Bobo, if you think Dillinger Escape Plan is boring then..... what isn't?

[Fullysick metal man]

i find progresive music to be extremly gay.

i think metal in general has peaked.
as in there probably won't be an extremly original band for a long time.

[Steerpike]

Another one to throw on the fire:

Pop is not a dirty word.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Not an opinion.


thats your opinion :p

nah you're right, I should've put this:

I've probably listened to 7 dream theater songs all the way through, and they were all extremly boring.

better?


Pink Floyds Animals > all their other albums


You claim that classic rock is boring, then say that the most boring album Pink Floyd ever made is their best.

I don't get it.

Thats my opinion

[Moses]

i find progresive music to be extremly gay.

i think metal in general has peaked.
as in there probably won't be an extremly original band for a long time.
You are weird.....

Tell me who's more original than Dillinger Escape Plan? Fantomas?

[Kingofdudes]

i find progresive music to be extremly gay.

i think metal in general has peaked.
as in there probably won't be an extremly original band for a long time.
I find this to be an ignorant post post

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

Bobo, if you think Dillinger Escape Plan is boring then..... what isn't?

Avant-Garde metal? :p

Their music sounds like one giant mess that passes over my head when listening to it.

Steerpike : correct, pop is not a bad word. I quite enjoy J-pop as well.

Electronic music such as trance, drums n' bass, happy hardcore etc etc is good music.

[Fullysick metal man]

You are weird.....

Tell me who's more original than Dillinger Escape Plan? Fantomas?

i'm talking about death metal and extreme metal.
i don't think theres many good bands out at the moment.

[Moses]

Avant-Garde metal? :p

Their music sounds like one giant mess that passes over my head when listening to it.
Are you up for two songs that I think might interest you?

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

Are you up for two songs that I think might interest you?


Sure, why not.

[Moses]

What's your email?

[FlyingPaul_83]

Save for X-Japan and some God Forbid, I have not liked any R&M band that is made up of or dominated by members whose origins trace back to Africa and/or Asia.


agreed.

[Steerpike]

Here's one for all the Slipknot fans:

Saying you are a maggot is not a good thing. It just makes me want to hit you really hard.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

Here's one for all the Slipknot fans:

Saying you are a maggot is not a good thing. It just makes me want to hit you really hard.


Exactly. Never found out why they thought it was cool to be called a "maggot"

Moses : it's in the profile.

[Moses]

Heh, should've guessed.

Sent.

[ThrashMaster27]

Minority opinions, eh?

Whilst Gwar are known for their stage shows, they actually produce decent music also.

[manuscriptreplica]

Black metal is deeper and more technical than
people give it credit for..

Sorry, but that's just wrong. Black metal is worse than punk in terms of technicality. Does the word 'minimalist' mean anything to you? Because that's what black metal is.

[Freezing Moon]

Somebody has been to M-A recently, Jon. ;)

I have too many reasons to list, and not enough time to list them, so I'd just like to point out a couple of key things...

1. Children of Bodom's new album is an absolute disgrace. Their previous efforts weren't much to live up to, and they couldn't even come close.

2. Old School Death > Technical Death.

3. In music, just like in most things, being "random" is retarded.
This includes random Jazz interludes in metal songs. (*cough*Sleep Terror*cough*)

[Nostalgia]

Well I know they refer to them selves as maggots sometimes but, my assumption on that song"pulse of the maggots" they are refering to smaller people who don't have a voice, they are saying they are the heart beat or the pulse that speaks for troubled youth.

[Moses]

Sorry, but that's just wrong. Black metal is worse than punk in terms of technicality. Does the word 'minimalist' mean anything to you? Because that's what black metal is.
Hymne I - Wolf and Fear by Ulver

Technical enough. Black enough.

[Freezing Moon]

i'm talking about death metal and extreme metal.
i don't think theres many good bands out at the moment.

Then you obviously are not looking hard enough.

[Nostalgia]

i'm talking about death metal and extreme metal.
i don't think theres many good bands out at the moment.
Open your mind their are many good death metal bands...

Cannibal corpse, listen to tomb of the mutilated A little more techniqual then more other stuff

Morbid angel
suffocation
Opeth, they have a different type of growl but a very good progressive Death metal band.
Nile they have deaper growls but their lyrics distinguish them the most.


Go to the any other death heads thread, their are oh...A few hundred pages of good death metal.

[Bazarov]

Open your mind their are many good death metal bands...

Cannibal corpse, listen to tomb of the mutilated A little more techniqual then more other stuff

Morbid angel
suffocation
Opeth, they have a different type of growl but a very good progressive .

Not to argue, but I don't find Opeth death metal at all. Just that Mikeal does some extreme growls in his songs.

[Riva]

I like about half a dozen metal bands, including Sabbath, RATM, Van Halen and Rammstein.
.

The only problem with that is that Van Halen, RATM and Rammstein are very much borderline metal.

[Nostalgia]

Not to argue, but I don't find Opeth death metal at all. Just that Mikeal does some extreme growls in his songs.
True, they do have a very different type of growl, they are sort of a aquired taste, it's more of a slow tempo growl rather then most Cannibal corpse songs. But on older stuff like Orchid, they have some deaper growls.

[Moses]

True, they do have a very different type of growl, they are sort of a aquired taste, it's more of a slow tempo growl rather then most Cannibal corpse songs. But on older stuff like Orchid, they have some deaper growls.
You aren't getting him. Opeth sounds nothing like deathmetal besides a few growls.

[Bazarov]

You aren't getting him. Opeth sounds nothing like deathmetal besides a few growls.
:lol: Yeah that's what I ment.

[Nostalgia]

You aren't getting him. Opeth sounds nothing like deathmetal besides a few growls.
Yea...:upset: but, there isn't one type of death metal, yea most are at faster tempo but thats doesn't make them not death metal. I get that he doesn't think that they are death metal at all, but if their vocals aren't death growls then what kind of music are they?

[Riva]

I think old school death metal is a lot better than the newer death metal bands.

I think that Led Zep, being a good band are extremely overrated.

I like Pink Floyd's Animals better than Dark Side of the Moon. And I didn't really think The Final Cut was that great.

Old Cannibal Corpse>New Cannibal Corpse. I like older CC's stuff, but I like Corpsegrinder's vocals more than Chris'.

These are all fairly common opinions...

[Moses]

How about that Dillinger, Bobo?

[Bazarov]

Yea...:upset: but, there isn't one type of death metal, yea most are at faster tempo but thats doesn't make them not death metal. I get that he doesn't think that they are death metal at all, but if their vocals aren't death growls then what kind of music are they?

I see them as a proggy metal band, that has extreme vocals in parts of the songs. Just like Children of Bodom are power-metally with harsh vocals. Not that I'm bashing Opeth, I really dig them.

These are all fairly common opinions...

I've met quite a few people that have disagreed with me on those. But oh well.

[Riva]

Okay, here are mine.

I like Metallica.

I like Hair Metal.

I like Hip-hop, Trip-hop, Electronica, House, Trance, Jazz, Funk, Pop, Punk, World, New Age, and Classical.

[BoboTheRagingHobo]

How about that Dillinger, Bobo?


It was better then the other stuff I have heard, but that stuff you sent me was with Mike Patton and that is probably the reason it's better.

I have only heard Miss Machine before hand, and the only song that I actually remembered after listening to it was Setting Fire to Sleeping Giants.

[Fullysick metal man]

Open your mind their are many good death metal bands...

Cannibal corpse, listen to tomb of the mutilated A little more techniqual then more other stuff

Morbid angel
suffocation
Opeth, they have a different type of growl but a very good progressive Death metal band.
Nile they have deaper growls but their lyrics distinguish them the most.


Go to the any other death heads thread, their are oh...A few hundred pages of good death metal.


i wasn't complaining about death metal at all.

i just don't like the current(as in 2001-2005 new releases) state of extreme metal beacause IMO it tends to be really progresive or very similar to other bands.

at least any of the bands that i could find anyway.

I find progressive music to be pretty boring and it gets stale quickly.


EDIT Anata-Under A Stone With No Inscription is pretty cool album
and thats pretty recent.

[Moses]

Yea...:upset: but, there isn't one type of death metal, yea most are at faster tempo but thats doesn't make them not death metal. I get that he doesn't think that they are death metal at all, but if their vocals aren't death growls then what kind of music are they?
Opeth:

Vocals: Death growls and Clean singing
Drums: Jazz, Metal, Rock
Guitars: Folk, Metal
Bass: Metal, Jazz
Songwriting: Prog

The only thing about them that has to do with death is some of the vocals. Overall they aren't anything but prog metal.

It was better then the other stuff I have heard, but that stuff you sent me was with Mike Patton and that is probably the reason it's better.

I have only heard Miss Machine before hand, and the only song that I actually remembered after listening to it was Setting Fire to Sleeping Giants.

I'll send some more, un-Patton stuff.

[Nostalgia]

True, I see your point on the riffs to, they are at a slow more emotional tempo. Well now I get it all around, thank you. When I was thinking about them being DM I was just thinking vocals, thanks for clearing that up.

[Moses]

No problem.

[rata]

silverchair is far from being a one hit wonder...

i dont think theres such thing as ñu metal...

cannibal corpse's song are still a soundtrack to vomit for me...

[PepsiMetal]

- I think hammerfall are one of the best power metal band.
- I think metallica are one of the best thrash metal band.
- I didn't like any death/black metal due to screaming vocals.
- I don't think dream theater's music is anything impressive.
- I like nu metal bands like slipknot and soad.
- I think Raymond Herrera is an amazing drummer.
- I think Iron Maiden are one of the best heavy metal band.
- I think Nightwish's female vocalist, or ex-vocalist, didn't really if the band at all. Actually I don't think her voice fits metal at all.
- And I don't judge bands by their popularity, rather how their music sounds. (I've heard any people here say, that band sucks cause it's mainstream. lawl)

That's about it.

[rata]

Save for X-Japan and some God Forbid, I have not liked any R&M band that is made up of or dominated by members whose origins trace back to Africa and/or Asia.



have you heard asian dub foundation? or greyhoundz, wolfgang, or kapatid...

:)

[the2stranger]

- I don't like Metallica all that much,in fact, I don't own a single cd by them
- Same goes for Maiden
- Modern death metal = Old death metal in terms of enjoyement for me.
- Electronic music rocks
- James LaBrie is an awesome vocalist.
- I prefer Avant-Garde metal to any other genre of music.
- I like to call Avant-Garde a genre, even though this brings about arguments.
- I think guteral (grindvocals) are one of the most melodic vocals around.
- I like weird vocal styles( Garm, Patton, Cornelius)
- I choose keybord over 2nd guitar any day, and in fact I think keyboardists are way underappreciated, and think there shoul be more Keyboard orientated bands instead of guitar orietnated ones

more when I think of them

[Kronos]

Ok, here we go

I like Metallica's Black Album
I don't have a single anything by Pink Floyd, and don't like them at all
I think Iced Earth are ridiculously overrated on MX
Dio is the best male metal vocalist of all time
I like Old Man's Child
Black Sabbath were better after Ozzy went
Most American metal is way inferior to European

There.
PS
Most music over 180 bpm sucks
Bruce Dickinson's voice annoys me after a few songs

[Epicurus]

I dont think Tool is interesting at all
I find Dream Theater to be very overrated imo
I think CoB's new album is great bar what the majority are saying about it

[Dragon_Prince]

Mhm
I don't like much metal
I like U2 and Coldplay
I like Green Day

[braindoctor]

i think Pink Floyd are average and just got lucky and they are effect whores
i think most modern day music sucks
i think 50 cent sucks balls and 50 cent is how much his homies pay to butt**** him
i think dance and rap get to much attention in the charts
i eminem is irratiting

there

[Wish]

Sean Killian is a great vocalist (On Eternal Nightmare anyway)Yes. I love his vocal style. I can't see why anybody would dislike it.

- I think Iron Maiden and Judas Priest are overrated.
- I don't like many older bands. Take the two examples above.
- I hate Slayer.

[braindoctor]

Yes. I love his vocal style. I can't see why anybody would dislike it.

- I think Iron Maiden and Judas Priest are overrated.
- I hate Slayer.

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[Apocalyptic Raids]

Yes. I love his vocal style. I can't see why anybody would dislike it.
I can see why, but they're fags if they don't :-P

[superdigg]

-most dream theater bores me
-i enjoy the odd pop-punk/pop-punk-emo song/band
-counterstrike sucks, royally
-flying Vs are really good-looking
-tool aren't that great
-hanson are really good singers (my friend is a huge fan and made me listen to them and uhh yes, they're super talented)
-iron maiden get really boring after a while
-pantera's songs get very samey
-death metal is boring
-jessica simpson isn't that hot


ahh this thread is so liberating


i think most modern day music sucks
i think 50 cent sucks balls and 50 cent is how much his homies pay to butt**** him
i think dance and rap get to much attention in the charts
i eminem is irratiting

there
i think those aren't minority opinions at all, and you're not exposing your TRUE minority opinions. apart from that pink floyd one that i neglected to quote.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

-flying Vs are really good-looking

I don't think that is a minority opinion. At least not as far as metalheads are concerned.

[Arrakakaka]

Porcupine Tree isn't all they're cracked up to be.
Folk Black Metal owns everything.
Isis is one of the best bands around.
Thrash is boring and predictable.
NWOAHM is horrid.
Lamb Of God sucks.
I despise James LaBrie's vocals.
Emo/Screamo is awesome, except the term 'emo' is thrown around like a dildo at a lesbian orgy.
I like most of the '-core' genres.
Post genres are pretty dang cool.
BLS are overatted. Same with Priest, Maiden, Crüe, and most old metal.
I don't like straightforward rock.
Any genre or band with progressive influences are worth listening.

[Otherside]

Most Hardcore/Metalcore bands are generic and lack talent.
At The Drive-In should never be compared to TMV.
Black Metal is horribly overrated and boring.
Post genres rock.
I think I prefer Morningrise over BLP.

[BeaZ]

I hate Pink Floyd.
I like Dimmu Boggir.
I like Dream Theater's Train Of Thought and Octavarium albums.
I find Porcupine Tree boring.

[G_Mac07]

Post genres rock.
I think I prefer Morningrise over BLP.

Agreed.

/listened to Morningrise 3 times today

[Kingofdudes]

i dont think theres such thing as ñu metal...
I dont think the Holocaust happened

i think Pink Floyd are average and just got lucky and they are effect whores
You must be retarded to think that, hell your whole list sucks actually.

[Lord Abortion]

Iron maiden are the greatest band to walk the face of the earth, ever.

Rage against the machine are gay, I don't care what anyone says, they have a rapper as a vocalist. That's gay.

Pantera suck balls, they are childish and stupid redneck thugs.

Glen Danzig sucks nads compared to Gravesy

James Labrie is better than most vocalists. Except a couple (Dickinson, Barlow, Dani filth)

Dave's vocals are a wonderful part of Megadeth's sound. He is a far better vocalist than any others in the "Thrash big four"

Emperor aren't that good.

Ozzy is rubbish, really.

Maynard Can't sing

Metallica have only released seven good songs since ride the lightning

Battery.
Master of puppets
Eye of the beholder
One
Enter sadman
Of wolf and man
Shoot me again

I like slipknot and system of a down.

Atilla is a better vocalist than Dead

Cannibal corpse are very talented lyricists and looking behind the gore lyrics to the psychological insight behind it is rewarding.

Technical death metal and melodic death metal misses the point of the genre.

Jon Schaffer is the best and most consistent writer of riffs I have ever heard.

Ripper Owens is a great vocalist.

Opeth are meh, and I can't see the fascination.

[-The Frank]

Iron maiden are the greatest band to walk the face of the earth, ever.




your not alone on that one.... \m/ (-_-) \m/


up the irons

[Spiritofmosa]

i like metal because i'm a bad boy

[i am the robots]

Mine are:
-I listen to Nu-Metal and don't think it's horrible... well in most cases
-I don't think In Flames and Soilwork are sellouts
-I think on the new Cryptopsy album Lord Worm's vocals have improved
-I think that Chester Bennington is a great singer
-I don't think breakdowns = hardcore, I don't think breakdowns/hardcore/post-hardcore = bad, I just think bands like As I Lay Dying = bad

[Kyle]

I like Kanye West

When bands try to be heavier than Pantera it usually just sounds horrible

[-The Frank]

1. The beach boys > slayer and any other thrash/death metal band.
2. i like Ozzys solo albums more then any of black sabbaths albums
3. led zepplin are overrated
4. i dont like barlows voice that much....( IE still rocks though)
5. kansas totally pwn

[i am the robots]

I like Kanye West

When bands try to be heavier than Pantera it usually just sounds horrible

Yes, we all know that Pantera is liek teh most hXc band evar, ther riffs iz liek Hellfire, RIP DIMEBAG LOL!!!!!1

Listen to Behemoth until your ears bleed nigga.

[Kyle]

Yes, we all know that Pantera is liek teh most hXc band evar, ther riffs iz liek Hellfire, RIP DIMEBAG LOL!!!!!1

Listen to Behemoth until your ears bleed nigga.
:rolleyes:...the first post said no flaming.....nigga

I just don't really like any bands that are hevaier than pantera, mainly because harsh vocals put me off. I guess I don't mind some bands that are heavier but I never really got into the whole death metal thing.

[Txus]

COB are boring and they aren't that talentend.
^^ Same goes with rush but with talent .

[Jude]

And you just haven't listened hard enough if you honestly think 99% of metal is just thrash with a different name. And from the bands you listed as metal, I highly doubt you have heard a large variety of metal.

Van Halen =/= metal.



Um....by 'trash' I meant 'trash', not 'thrash.'

[Jude]

The only problem with that is that Van Halen, RATM and Rammstein are very much borderline metal.
That's why I said 'including' because the number of bands I listen to that are indisputably metal is 2.

[braindoctor]

I dont think the Holocaust happened


You must be retarded to think that, hell your whole list sucks actually.

i'm not saying he's a bad player i just think he has more effects than feeling

Welcome To The Machine has lots of effects

i like 4 of there songs though

[Steerpike]

i'm saying he's a bad player i just think he has more effects than feeling

Welcome To The Machine has lots of effects

i like 4 of there songs though

:lol:
/points and laughs

[Silentia]

Another one to throw on the fire:

Pop is not a dirty word.

And to add to that, Michael Jackson is one of the best things to happen to the world. In terms of music (and Oprah-PrimeTime-interviews).

[braindoctor]

:lol:
/points and laughs

at what ?

[Jude]

I'll agree, Michael Jackson made some really good music.

A lot of country is good.

Led Zeppelin are not overrated.

Porcupine Tree are THE BEST band in existence today.

Slayer are garbage.

It may be overplayed, but Stairway to Heaven is still one of the best songs ever.

[Steerpike]

at what ?

More effects than feeling? That's a new one by me.

[Shadows Within]

James Labrie is better than most vocalists. Except a couple (Dickinson, Barlow, Dani filth)


im not trying to me a **** but how is dani filth a good vocalist :confused:

anyway

-Dream Theater Isin't Boring
-I think all death/black/doom metal vocals suck royal balls
-I think Porcupine tree is overated
-I like Breaking Benjamin, Disturbed and Crossfade and Metalcore
-Theres Never Enough Shredding
-Blues Bores Me (besides some B.B King)
-Jazz Gets Incredibly Annoying and I dont see what people like about it

that was liberating ill think of more.

[dest. Chaos]

- I think Iron Maiden and Judas Priest are overrated.
noooooooooooooooooo! Priest is underrated!!!

[braindoctor]

More effects than feeling? That's a new one by me.

ok then ...

[Shred Danson]

I think old school death metal is a lot better than the newer death metal bands.

Oh, hell yeah, man, I agree. I'll take Obituary over Drawn and Quartered anyday. :)

I actually think Story Of The Year writes some good songs. So shoot me.

[Txus]

I'll agree, Michael Jackson made some really good music.

A lot of country is good.

Led Zeppelin are not overrated.

Porcupine Tree are THE BEST band in existence today.

Slayer are garbage.

It may be overplayed, but Stairway to Heaven is still one of the best songs ever.
Agreed totally.:thumb:

[KittensInMicrowaves]

Opeth is artsy overblown annoyingly long music

90% of death vocals are god awful

Complex time signatures/unique song structures rarely equal great sounding music

Iron maiden and judas priest are cheesy and not very good

[Shred Danson]

Opeth is artsy overblown annoyingly long music

Eh, I don't really agree with that, man...would you say the same thing about Dream Theater or Tool or old Metallica?

Another opinion:

Meshuggah gets annoying to listen to after a while...I respect the musicianship and the crazy time signatures and everything, but Jesus, it always sounds like the same thing to me...it might be because I generally hate music that isn't always in a straight beat because it confuses the hell out of me, but I just can't stand listening to some Meshuggah.

[Steerpike]

ok then ...

Effects and feeling are not mutually exclusive. Listen to the solo in Comfortably Numb and get back to us when you're done drying your eyes.

[Brew]

Hmm...

-Paranoid is not only one of the worst songs Black Sabbath ever wrote, its also one of their worst and most boring albums.
-Sacking Ozzy was one of the best ideas the Sabs ever had, next to hiring Dio to replace him.
-Dream Theatre, Meshuggah and Led Zeppelin do nothing for me, at all. I find them all rather boring.
-I like the first two Stereophonics albums. Everything else they have released has been a bit crap...
-The new Dragonforce album is boring after the 4th song.
-Tony Iommi is nothing more than a hard rock/dirty blues guitarist.
-Black Sabbath are hard rock, not heavy metal.
-Blaze Bayley is a great vocalist, highly underrated.

Thats all for now...

[Triangle]

- I think the Aenima album by Tool is total ****e.
- I enjoy some Pop Punk. Blink 182 are great.
- I think traditional jazz is really, really boring.
- I hate most death metal (Opeth are an exception to this)
- Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree) is a musical genius and have no idea why the band aren't a lot more famous.
- Children Of Bodom suck.

[Silentia]

I'll agree, Michael Jackson made some really good music.


Yeah dude. Really good may be an understatement. I'd like to see a write-up on him, but I'm too lazy to do it.

[Arucard]

Maynard James Keenan isn't as great a vocalist as Tool fans insist he is---he has his moments, but that nauseating, breathy, halting croon of his is ****ing abysmal, imo.

Hip-hop is a damn good music genre.

Couldn't agree with you more Ray. To many douche metal fans think that Hip-Hop sucks, when its actually brilliant. All of the acts/artisits you told me to check out are insanely talented.

I also think that Led Zeppelin are overated to no-end, yet they have an interesting back story.

I think that people who say 99% of Death Metal is trash should go **** themselves, because they have defiantly not heard 100% of it.

I think that Avenged Sevenfolds new album is brilliant, and that people who say they sold out should just keep it to themselves and go listen to Atreyu or Killswitch Engage to disperse their anger.

I think Aggaloch are some of the most brilliant musicians ever.

[braindoctor]

Effects and feeling are not mutually exclusive. Listen to the solo in Comfortably Numb and get back to us when you're done drying your eyes.

i just listened to it and it is pretty good

its songs like Welcome To The Machine that annoy me more because there's no real structure and i feel its more of a 10 minute guitar effect run through

you proved your point though

but i didn't make me cry though

[Neoteric]

I like drop-d songs.
I like some hardcore though I hate emo.
I enjoy the Lost Prophets.

[Steerpike]

-No, I don't care what your religion or political persuasion is. Just keep making music without preaching.

-For all the talk of wankery, no one brings up the live versions of Metallica songs. Fade to Black does not need to be 20 minutes long.

-American Idiot isn't as bad as everyone says it is. Though I will agree that 4 singles is purely gratuitous, and the music video for Wake Me Up When September Ends was an abomination on par with Metallica's Saint Anger.

-Hating non-metal genres like pop-punk and hip-hop for no reason does not make you a real metalhead. It just makes you a twat.

-The Darkness aren't that bad. Though I do agree that someone needs to tell Jet that AC/DC and the Rolling Stones called and they want their riffs back.

-Nu-metal is not a dirty word. TRL is.

i just listened to it and it is pretty good

its songs like Welcome To The Machine that annoy me more because there's no real structure and i feel its more of a 10 minute guitar effect run through

you proved your point though

but i didn't make me cry though

You do realize that Welcome to the Machine is predominantly keyboards, right? Gilmore's guitarwork in that song is mostly confined to strumming the chord progression with a clean channel and a chorus pedal to simulate a 12-string guitar. Which is actually similar to one of Alex Lifeson's signature techniques.

[Mazeppa]

I think that people who say 99% of Death Metal is trash should go **** themselves, because they have defiantly not heard 100% of it.

Brilliant.

Some of my 'minority opinions':
I find the following bands boring: Iron Maiden, Porcupine Tree. Especially Porcupine Tree. Wanna hear a musical genious? Then check out Beethoven.

-Hating non-metal genres like pop-punk and hip-hop for no reason does not make you a real metalhead. It just makes you a twat.
Also quoted for briliance.

[Txus]

I think Aggaloch are some of the most brilliant musicians ever.

You are so right man The Mantle is such an amazing album.:D

[Deth]

-Despite the fact that Keenan is a good vocalist, he begins to piss me off when he does those damn little quarter step fluctuations with his voice.

- Rob Halford is the greatest singer in metal history, and anyone who disagrees hasn't heard enough.

- I can't stand gory lyrics for the most part

- Geddy Lee is a fantastic singer

- I believe Public Enemy created the best music of the late 80's - early 90's

[Steerpike]

Couldn't agree with you more Ray. To many douche metal fans think that Hip-Hop sucks, when its actually brilliant. All of the acts/artisits you told me to check out are insanely talented.

It's true. I'm still amazed with Slug's lyrical talent in Atmosphere. He has an amazing voice as a writer, and his skill as an MC is nothing to sneeze at either.

[braindoctor]

You do realize that Welcome to the Machine is predominantly keyboards, right? Gilmore's guitarwork in that song is mostly confined to strumming the chord progression with a clean channel and a chorus pedal to simulate a 12-string guitar. Which is actually similar to one of Alex Lifeson's signature techniques.

aww i didnt know i thought it was like a wah wah with some additional effects

[xbabixpantomimex3]

-emo is a bit overrated
-classic rock (led zeppelin era) was the best time for music
-Screamo is overrated when its just screaming
-Pop punk isnt as bad as people say it is
-rap metal isnt as bad as people say it is
-gothic stuff (nightwish, HIM, within tempation, 69 eyes) is brilliant
-you can find amazing artists in all kinds of genres and labeling music is just so damn confusing.

[Kronos]

OK - here are a few more of mine
I quite like jazz, esp admire the cool drumming
I also like early 80s electropop
Folk music is good
Within Temptation are great
Paradise Lost are probably the most underrated British band ever

[Dragon_Prince]

-American Idiot isn't as bad as everyone says it is. Though I will agree that 4 singles is purely gratuitous, and the music video for Wake Me Up When September Ends was an abomination on par with Metallica's Saint Anger.




5 now, with jesus of suburbia

[Steerpike]

-emo is a bit overrated
-classic rock (led zeppelin era) was the best time for music

You'll probably catch some flack for these.

[Txus]

Stone Sour is a great band.


NP:Stone Sour-Inhale

[Tommi Hendrix]

Coheed and Cambria are in fact, good music.
their singer / guitarist is the mos hilarious Slash copy of all time.

I hate Death metal ( Cannibal Corpse, Slayer and stuff) cause their lyrics suckballs.
I like Tom Delonges playing.
I hate RATM because every songs sounds the same.
I love Velvet Revolver.
Axl Rose = Best singer / frontman ever

that´s about it

[ATC]

+) Ozzy cannot effin sing. He just flat out sucks and ruined Black Sabbath for me.
+) I encourage artists to write about topics close to their hearts even if it means they write political songs. Since when is it wrong for musicians to have political opinions?
+) The whole 'tr00 kvlt' thing where you restrict yourself to old music within a genre is silly,blind and stupid.
+) Bands usually release their best work on album 3, not on the friggin debut, no matter how old school you think it might be.
+) I remix most of my band's prog rock original songs until they turn trip-hop/electronic.
+) Grunge is not dead.
+) Metallica did not 'sell out'. They wanted to be making that music.
+) I want my favorite bands to make money. I would rather not have them sell 10 albums and starve if they're good, no matter how exclusive it might make people feel to be the only people that know them.

[Steerpike]

I hate Death metal ( Cannibal Corpse, Slayer and stuff) cause their lyrics suckballs.
I hate RATM because every songs sounds the same.
Axl Rose = Best singer / frontman ever

Remember guys, we can't flame him. We're supposed to keep this thread as clean as possible.

I do have one question, though, dude. Have you ever actually listened to death metal other than Cannibal Corpse? As far as I'm concerned, you're not allowed to make a statement even remotely like that unless you can name at least 5 prominent bands in the genre.

[Jude]

Opeth is artsy overblown annoyingly long music*
*I have the attention span of a 12 year old MTV fan with ADD

[Jude]

I think that people who say 99% of Death Metal is trash should go **** themselves, because they have defiantly not heard 100% of it.

I love how this thread's about opinions.

[superpeer]

Hehe. :D


I'm just gonna steal some ideas from other people and try to think of some more.



Iron Maiden aren't very good, they're usually funny, their fans even more so.
Robert plant is a pretty vocalist and Led Zeppelin aren't really that amazing.
Pink Floyd aren't that great, they have a couple of good songs, but they're mostly kinda boring.
Dragonforce suck at music but they're masters at comedy.
Blind Guardian are one the funniest bands ever. Joke band.
Children of Bodom aren't very heavy and you're not very tough for liking them, they are a pretty good band, but they're mostly metal for girls.
Black Sabbath are very overrated.
Opeth are pretty boring, for the most part.
Tool are pretty much a terribly boring band.
Nirvana were a great band.
AC/DC can compete with Blind Guardian for funniest band ever.
Nightwish fans consist of mostly eye liner fags and they aren't that great.
Dream Theater are pretty boring and have a really bad vocalist.

I could go on, but people would just get angrier.

/under the influence <-<, sorry the possibly blunt posting.

[Steerpike]

I love how this thread's about opinions.

I think you'd agree though that an opinion is not a license to be stupid. In my experience, most people hear Cannibal Corpse, and immediately consider themselves experts on death metal.

[Arucard]

I love how this thread's about opinions.

I love how you know nothing about Death Metal.

[Amit]

im not trying to me a **** but how is dani filth a good vocalist :confused:

anyway

-Dream Theater Isin't Boring
-I think all death/black/doom metal vocals suck royal balls
-I think Porcupine tree is overated
-I like Breaking Benjamin, Disturbed and Crossfade and Metalcore
-Theres Never Enough Shredding
-Blues Bores Me (besides some B.B King)
-Jazz Gets Incredibly Annoying and I dont see what people like about it

that was liberating ill think of more.

Bahahahah. Weren't you the guy the MX chatroom completely owned?

[Arucard]

I wouldn't be suprised if it was, he has a problem grasping simple English.

[Schyma]

- Although most of them are good musicians Cream, The Who and Led Zeppelin couldn't write songs to save their lives

-Free Jazz is a very good sub genre

-Syd Barrett was the most creative, most original songwritter of the 1960's

-Piper at the Gates of Dawn is quite possibly the greatest album in the history of Rock

-Miles Davis' electric period is better than his Kind of Blue era

-Dorothy Moskowitz (United States of America) is a better singer than Grace Slick (Jefferson Airplane)

-Some Metal is a little too "extreme"

-Wilco is the greatest modern band

[Jude]

I think you'd agree though that an opinion is not a license to be stupid. In my experience, most people hear Cannibal Corpse, and immediately consider themselves experts on death metal.
I don't consider myself an expert on death metal. I was responding to Arucard getting his panties wadded over my opinion that most death metal is trash. If I got pissed about everyone's opinions, I'd be ceaselessly flaming all the Philistines in this thread who don't realize that Porcupine Tree is better than everything they listen to :)

-Although most of them are good musicians Cream, The Who and Led Zeppelin couldn't write songs to save their lives
Um Achilles Last Stand Song Remains the Same No Quarter Ten Years Gone Won't Get Fooled Again Baba O'Riley etc


-Syd Barrett was the most creative, most original songwritter of the 1960's

-Piper at the Gates of Dawn is greatest rock album ever blah blah

This is pushing it too much for even an opinion.

-Some Metal is a little too "extreme" Definitely right. There are boundaries between 'music' and 'noise' and when you cross them in the name of being 'extreme' it doesn't make you original, it just makes you suck. This can happen in all genres of music, but people on this forum love it in metal.

[Mazeppa]

I don't consider myself an expert on death metal. I was responding to Arucard getting his panties wadded over my opinion that most death metal is trash. If I got pissed about everyone's opinions, I'd be ceaselessly flaming all the Philistines in this thread who don't realize that Porcupine Tree is better than everything they listen to :)

Wow, just wow.

-Some Metal is a little too "extreme" Definitely right. There are boundaries between 'music' and 'noise' and when you cross them in the name of being 'extreme' it doesn't make you original, it just makes you suck. This can happen in all genres of music, but people on this forum love it in metal.
Ok, I get annoyed when people start saying some types of music are "just noise". I mean come on, that's what music is when you get down to it, it's noise.

[Lord Abortion]

im not trying to me a **** but how is dani filth a good vocalist
1.Learn to spell
2. listen to the range, he can hit notes They haven't even invented names for yet, he has the best scream in metal, and the variation on his vocals is simply stunning.
3. Listen to the forest whispers my name, lord abortion and Dusk and her embrace, the twisted nails of faith, beneath the howling stars, and his best work on Haunted shores, it's mind blowing.

Fade to Black does not need to be 20 minutes long.
Neither does seek and destroy- endless crowd participation while you play the same passage over and over does NOT make a good live album.

-No, I don't care what your religion or political persuasion is. Just keep making music without preaching.
Have another reason I hate RATM

+) The whole 'tr00 kvlt' thing where you restrict yourself to old music within a genre is silly,blind and stupid.
I'm not even going to dignify this with a response, in fact all your opinions suck.

Way to go Jelle, You hate all the bands I love ;)

Another controversial one then.
Techno and dance is an insult to music.

[Jude]

Wow, just wow.


I was being sarcastic because someone flamed me for expressing my opinion.

Ok, I get annoyed when people start saying some types of music are "just noise". I mean come on, that's what music is when you get down to it, it's noise.
Touche

[Jude]

Have another reason I hate RATM
Another minority opinion: there's nothing wrong with political lyrics.

[Biancazzurri]

I like 2Pac and some other gangsta rap
David Gilmour is so overrated - sense doesn't mean you can play guitar good
The Wall & Dark Side of the moon = sh!t
pop-punk is not a music
Metal is the best genre but it doesn't mean that i will listen to it forever
Behemoth are unbearable, I can't listen even to 5 seconds of their sh!t.
Beatles, why the **** to you call them progressive rock????

[Biancazzurri]

Hehe. :D


I'm just gonna steal some ideas from other people and try to think of some more.



Iron Maiden aren't very good, they're usually funny, their fans even more so.
Robert plant is a pretty vocalist and Led Zeppelin aren't really that amazing.
Pink Floyd aren't that great, they have a couple of good songs, but they're mostly kinda boring.
Dragonforce suck at music but they're masters at comedy.
Blind Guardian are one the funniest bands ever. Joke band.
Children of Bodom aren't very heavy and you're not very tough for liking them, they are a pretty good band, but they're mostly metal for girls.
Black Sabbath are very overrated.
Opeth are pretty boring, for the most part.
Tool are pretty much a terribly boring band.
Nirvana were a great band.
AC/DC can compete with Blind Guardian for funniest band ever.
Nightwish fans consist of mostly eye liner fags and they aren't that great.
Dream Theater are pretty boring and have a really bad vocalist.

I could go on, but people would just get angrier.

/under the influence <-<, sorry the possibly blunt posting.
no.
If you don't know on what to focus you will hate 80% of the bands...
Opeth are really really repeatitive but that doesn't mean they are boring its the athomsphere... Nightwish's guitarist is amasing, what more do you need for power metal? Niravana were great band? Why? sh!tty songs, though I love them but they didn't do much.

Pink Floyd are really annoying.

[Arucard]

I like 2Pac and some other gangsta rap
David Gilmour is so overrated - sense doesn't mean you can play guitar good
The Wall & Dark Side of the moon = sh!t
pop-punk is not a music
Metal is the best genre but it doesn't mean that i will listen to it forever
Behemoth are unbearable, I can't listen even to 5 seconds of their sh!t.
Beatles, why the **** to you call them progressive rock????

I'm sorry to say this, but i hate people like you. Pop-Punk is not a form of music? Hello? Of course it is. Heres some news for you buddy, Opeth aren't as extreme or cool as you think they are, so don't take the piss out of a genre that is developing brillianty whilst listening to piss poor 'progressive' *death metal.

*Term used in loosest way possible.

Jude : Opinions have to be based on knowledge, which you obviously lack in the area of extreme metal.

[Lord Abortion]

'progressive' *death metal.

*Term used in loosest way possible.
They aren't even death.

[Shadows Within]

Bahahahah. Weren't you the guy the MX chatroom completely owned?
theres a chatroom?

-Having said that, a whole load of politically aware musicans grossly oversimplify the issues and clearly have no idea what they're actually talking about. The one silver lining to Bush's re-election victory was them shutting up, albeit briefly.

completely agree...so you mean your republican?

[i am the robots]

Contrary to everybody elses opinion here:

-Opeth does not suck because they have long songs.
-Opeth is not the greatest band of all time.
-Opeth is still ****ing amazing.
-Opeth's releasing Damnation and Ghost Reveries =/= selling out, they didn't do a single trendy thing.

[ATC]

Doing something trendy does not automatically make you a sell-out.

[Lord Abortion]

Doing something trendy does not automatically make you a sell-out.
It makes you a twat though

[ATC]

It makes you a twat though

A lot of the time, but not necessarily. :)

[Shadows Within]

Contrary to everybody elses opinion here:

-Opeth does not suck because they have long songs.
-Opeth is not the greatest band of all time.
-Opeth is still ****ing amazing.
-Opeth's releasing Damnation and Ghost Reveries =/= selling out, they didn't do a single trendy thing.
I really didn't like it at first because of the growls, but then I gave Ghost of Perdition a listen and I rather like the growls now which I never thought I would say, because most of the other ones i've heard are crap, Opeths are the only ones I can stand.

[Lord Abortion]

I really dident like at first cause of the growls
/puts head in hands

[ATC]

Opeth isn't really the pinnacle of 'progressive' music.

[Shadows Within]

/puts head in hands
:confused: oh the grammar? my bad i had to watch something so i typed quickly.

[3rdplanet]

I don't think I hold any negative opinions about much metal nowadays.

On the + side, I think Dream Theater should be counted as one of the Metal Greats.

[Deth]

On the + side, I think Dream Theater should be counted as one of the Metal Greats.
I 100% completely agree with this statement.

[Shadows Within]

I don't think I hold any negative opinions about much metal nowadays.

On the + side, I think Dream Theater should be counted as one of the Metal Greats.
totally i hate it when people call them boring they got the biggest pits at gigantour they really got crowed going, the only stuff i find boring by them is there slower stuff.

[superpeer]

no.
If you don't know on what to focus you will hate 80% of the bands...
Opeth are really really repeatitive but that doesn't mean they are boring its the athomsphere... Nightwish's guitarist is amasing, what more do you need for power metal? Niravana were great band? Why? sh!tty songs, though I love them but they didn't do much.

Pink Floyd are really annoying.

Opeth are indeed really repetitive, that IS what makes them boring. There's not much atmosphere. An "Amazing" guitarist doesn't make a good band.

You love them, but you think they have shitty songs? Right.

[Lord Abortion]

oh the grammar? my bad i had to watch something so i typed quickly.
No, the fact you won't listen to a band because of the vocalist growling.

On the + side, I think Dream Theater should be counted as one of the Metal Greats
Thirded!
Motion carried!

[naboo]

Jimi Hendrix is one of the greatest guitarists ever.
Aphex Twin is cool.
Iced Earth are still awesome with Tim Owens.
Load and Reload are great albums.
Death's first few albums are boring.

[Shadows Within]

No, the fact you won't listen to a band because of the vocalist growling.
thats because i hate it, and when i listened to opeth thats all i heard, usually ill listen to a band for the music and usually not the vocals (COB, opeth, into eternity, trivium and all that remains are only screaming/growling bands i can tollerate now) but i cant seem to get past the growling.

[Moon Flavor]

totally i hate it when people call them boring they got the biggest pits at gigantour they really got crowed going, the only stuff i find boring by them is there slower stuff.
You mean everything before Train of Thought, excluding 3-4 songs on each album.

I don't like most classic rock songs. They tend to not have high points. Don't reply to this saying I'm wrong, I know there's exceptions, just not very many.

People who don't like death metal because of the singing (and only the singing) need to open their minds a bit. (not exactly a minority opinion)

Avant garde is the ultimate form of metal.

Hardcore is a lot more complex than some people think (at least certain bands are). While they may sound like crap to you, bands like The Chariot, Norma Jean, and Fear Before the March of Flames(:)) are some of the only bands I've heard that can play in free time and still be completely locked together.

Ska is really damn good.

[naboo]

True, they do have a very different type of growl, they are sort of a aquired taste, it's more of a slow tempo growl rather then most Cannibal corpse songs. But on older stuff like Orchid, they have some deaper growls.

What?! Mike's growls are incredibly deeper on later albums; especially Deliverance. They were much higher on Orchid and Morningrise.

[Lord Abortion]

Iced Earth are still awesome with Tim Owens.

/Awards you points

Load and Reload are great albums.
/removes some of them.


thats because i hate it, and when i listened to opeth thats all i heard, usually ill listen to a band for the music and usually not the vocals (COB, opeth, into eternity, trivium and all that remains are only screaming/growling bands i can tollerate now) but i cant seem to get past the growling.

I see, maybe it'll grow on you, it did with me and now I love that vocal style, I enjoy any vocalist with an individual style though.

[Shadows Within]

/Awards you points

/removes some of them.




I see, maybe it'll grow on you, it did with me and now I love that vocal style, I enjoy any vocalist with an individual style though.
i really like clean so i dunno, but then again opeth did :shrug:, but to me besides opeth all the growling sounds the same to me.

[Biancazzurri]

You love them, but you think they have shitty songs? Right.
They indeed have shitty songs, they don't stand out in anything special. I love Nirvana because this is the music when i was 12 to 17 but now i say their songs are sh!t though i'll never switch nirvana song. This sounds paradox but i think you can understand me.

[Jude]

Jude : Opinions have to be based on knowledge, which you obviously lack in the area of extreme metal.
I'm not a scholar of it, but I've heard enough of it to know that I don't like it. Therefore my OPINION is that it's not good. OPINION.

/puts head in hands
Because we all know that everyone who doesn't like the same vocal styles as us is hopeless.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

In Absentia is not a great album.
Tool's cover of "No Quarter" is not better than the original.

[Deth]

In Absentia is not a great album.
Tool's cover of "No Quarter" is not better than the original.
You almost made me cry with that one.

[Steerpike]

2. listen to the range, he can hit notes They haven't even invented names for yet, he has the best scream in metal, and the variation on his vocals is simply stunning.
3. Listen to the forest whispers my name, lord abortion and Dusk and her embrace, the twisted nails of faith, beneath the howling stars, and his best work on Haunted shores, it's mind blowing.

Daniel Heiman, Matt Barlow, Ripper, Bruce Dickinson, Rob Halford, King Diamond, Erci Adams, etc >>>>>>>>>>> Dani Filth

I don't care about his range. All I know is that his voice makes me want to stab him in the face with an ice pick.

Have another reason I hate RATM

The funny thing is, I like some of their music, but then when they get into the whole "**** tha po-lice" crap, I'm just thinking "Oh for god sake, Zack, shut the hell up."

I like 2Pac and some other gangsta rap
David Gilmour is so overrated - sense doesn't mean you can play guitar good
The Wall & Dark Side of the moon = sh!t
pop-punk is not a music
Beatles, why the **** to you call them progressive rock????

Does anyone else's brain hurt after reading all that and trying to make heads or tails of it?

They indeed have shitty songs, they don't stand out in anything special. I love Nirvana because this is the music when i was 12 to 17 but now i say their songs are sh!t though i'll never switch nirvana song. This sounds paradox but i think you can understand me.

Um, no. I can't. It sounds like you're pushing everything through Babelfish.

[blackout]

Hehe. :D


I'm just gonna steal some ideas from other people and try to think of some more.



Iron Maiden aren't very good, they're usually funny, their fans even more so.
Robert plant is a pretty vocalist and Led Zeppelin aren't really that amazing.
Pink Floyd aren't that great, they have a couple of good songs, but they're mostly kinda boring.
Dragonforce suck at music but they're masters at comedy.
Blind Guardian are one the funniest bands ever. Joke band.
Children of Bodom aren't very heavy and you're not very tough for liking them, they are a pretty good band, but they're mostly metal for girls.
Black Sabbath are very overrated.
Tool are pretty much a terribly boring band.
Nirvana were a great band.
AC/DC can compete with Blind Guardian for funniest band ever.
Nightwish fans consist of mostly eye liner fags and they aren't that great.
Dream Theater are pretty boring and have a really bad vocalist.

This.

Also, not all metalcore is bad, Peter Dolving is a far better vocalist than Marco Ano, Gwar are much more than a piss take, Lorm Worm is over rated, and jeff hanneman is far superior to kerry king.

[Deth]

jeff hanneman is far superior to kerry king.
I'm moderately sure that this isn't an opinion.

[Shred Danson]

Throwdown puts on a pretty good show, but are by no means carrying the tradition of Pantera, as people keep saying.

jeff hanneman is far superior to kerry king.

/gives imaginary rep

[Shadows Within]

Daniel Heiman, Matt Barlow, Ripper, Bruce Dickinson, Rob Halford, King Diamond, Erci Adams, etc >>>>>>>>>>> Dani Filth

:lol: exactly

[Toaster]

Iron Maiden are very, very overrated. I think Hanneman is better too, but they both don't know what they're playing at all.

[randomthought9]

Okay, here goes.

I like pop.
I like rap.
Fall Out Boy are a good band.
I don't like black metal, or growling. (That's starting to change, though. I'm starting to get into heavier music than I usually listen to.)
AC/DC's songs all sound the same.
I like emo/screamo post hardcore, whatever you want to call it. Bands like Alexisonfire, Finch, At the Drive In, Sparta, bands like that.
Finally....



I like Linkin Park.:upset:

[Shred Danson]

I like Linkin Park :upset:

Why the hell do you feel ashamed of that? Who gives what you listen to? Listen to whatever makes you happy, even if it is, uh, crappy :p .

[PepsiMetal]

-The new Dragonforce album is boring after the 4th song.

Maybe it wouldn't be if you waited 2 more months till release date. aha

Goes to torrent to dl new df album.

[i am the robots]

More:
-Sepultura is still good, just nothing in comparison to their older works.
-I also like Linkin Park
-Grey Daze is one of the best Alternative bands of the late 90's
-Children of Bodom is a trend, whether it be saying how much of a 'chick metal band' they are, or by saying they are the best thing ever

[superpeer]

Daniel Heiman, Matt Barlow, Ripper, Bruce Dickinson, Rob Halford, King Diamond, Erci Adams, etc >>>>>>>>>>> Dani Filth

Just because they master the eunuch technique doesn't mean they're good/enjoyable vocalists. Except King Diamond, he can sing high without sounding gay.


-Children of Bodom is a trend, whether it be saying how much of a 'chick metal band' they are, or by saying they are the best thing ever

Hey, that's my line. :mad:

[Shred Danson]

-Children of Bodom is a trend, whether it be saying how much of a 'chick metal band' they are, or by saying they are the best thing ever

that made no sense to me...

[Shadows Within]

Just because they master the eunuch technique doesn't mean they're good/enjoyable vocalists. Except King Diamond, he can sing high without sounding gay.




Hey, that's my line. :mad:
quite the contrary i think the clean vocals are alot more enjoyable/better dani's just make me cringe, and no they dont sound gay.

that made no sense to me...
i know right?

[Shadows]

that made no sense to me...
I didn't understand it either. :confused:

[PepsiMetal]

-Children of Bodom is a trend, whether it be saying how much of a 'chick metal band' they are, or by saying they are the best thing ever

I think CoB fail at music. Their vocals are worth next to nothing.

Oh, and Jaocim Cans is one of the best metal vocalists today.

[evilmenhavenosongs]

It's a trend to hate them and a trend to like them.


I think HIM are awesome. (I just ordered my ticket to see them again :D:D:D:D.)

[Shadows Within]

I think CoB fail at music. Their vocals are worth next to nothing.
that's why people mostly listen to it for the music not the vocals :rolleyes:

its not a trend to hate them its not a trend to like them would be the real answer there.

[3rdplanet]

Thirded!
Motion carried!

Seems my opinons aren't as minority as I thought, 3 people agree with me, no-one out right disagreeing to my statements. :cool:

Dream Theater pwns.

[i am the robots]

I think CoB fail at music. Their vocals are worth next to nothing.

Oh, and Jaocim Cans is one of the best metal vocalists today.

Hating Bodom is a trend as much as saying how much you love them is. The hype about Bodom lately is out of hand, whether it's positive or negative, they're quite good, but some people are acting like Alexi Laiho is God's gift to man, and then others are acting like they're even worse than Limp Bizkit.

[superpeer]

quite the contrary i think the clean vocals are alot more enjoyable/better dani's just make me cringe, and no they dont sound gay.


i know right?


I'm not saying Dani Filth is a good vocalist, but singing without testicles sounds just as bad, if not worse.


Also: HIM is only thoroughly liked by girls.

[Shadows Within]

Hating Bodom is a trend as much as saying how much you love them is. The hype about Bodom lately is out of hand, whether it's positive or negative, they're quite good, but some people are acting like Alexi Laiho is God's gift to man, and then others are acting like they're even worse than Limp Bizkit.
yeah i think alexi is one of the best new guitarist but i dont think hes the best, i really dont see why people are making fun of him lately.

[PepsiMetal]

that's why people mostly listen to it for the music not the vocals :rolleyes:

Since when were vocals not part of the music?

Hating Bodom is a trend as much as saying how much you love them is. The hype about Bodom lately is out of hand, whether it's positive or negative, they're quite good, but some people are acting like Alexi Laiho is God's gift to man, and then others are acting like they're even worse than Limp Bizkit.

Oh i dont think a band can come close to being as awful as limp bizkit, but they are pretty bad. Better vocalist would probably fix this problem, although some people think their current singer is amazing.

[Shadows Within]

Since when were vocals not part of the music?

i should have clarified that i mean the instrumental part of it.

[i am the robots]

Laiho is an amazing vocalist when it comes to harsh vocals, he can't sing well, but to label him as a terrible vocalist is beyond ignorant.

[YouGottaBeCrazy]

You almost made me cry with that one.

Why? My opinion on the album is that it has some really good songs on it and a bunch of mediocre songs on it. Therefore, in my opinion, the album isn't that great.

[PepsiMetal]

Laiho is an amazing vocalist when it comes to harsh vocals, he can't sing well, but to label him as a terrible vocalist is beyond ignorant.

Right, he's a terrible singer.

[crag]

The Blaze Bayley era in Iron Maiden was a good one and Blaze is a good singer.

[Shadows Within]

Right, he's a terrible singer.
yeah i have wramed up to his vocals and like him now but hes deffinitly not a good singer.

[Shadows]

His new vocals are terrible. I can admit that, but I like the new music so I don't really pay attention to the vocals. Back in the day his higher vocals were incredible.

I wouldn't say CoB is a trend. Hating them perhaps is; I've seen a sudden rise in people who think they're the worst thing ever thanks to the new album. But liking them isn't anymore. All of the hype about the new stuff has pretty much died down.

[superpeer]

Laiho is an amazing vocalist when it comes to harsh vocals, he can't sing well, but to label him as a terrible vocalist is beyond ignorant.

Not really, he's not that great, it's just screaming... It's not particularly good or bad. But indeed, the strength in CoB songs are the catchy/cheesy riffs, not the vocals. So it doesn't matter.

[Shadows Within]

His new vocals are terrible. I can admit that, but I like the new music so I don't really pay attention to the vocals. Back in the day his higher vocals were incredible.

I wouldn't say CoB is a trend. Hating them perhaps is; I've seen a sudden rise in people who think they're the worst thing ever thanks to the new album. But liking them isn't anymore. All of the hype about the new stuff has pretty much died down.
yeah iv notices that too especially in the guitar forums. i really like AYDY sime of the guitaring is just as good as there other stuff me and my friend both agree that kissing the shadows is there best song (IMO)

[i am the robots]

Not really, he's not that great, it's just screaming... It's not particularly good or bad. But indeed, the strength in CoB songs are the catchy/cheesy riffs, not the vocals. So it doesn't matter.

I quite like his screams, I made an over statement, but I was just annoyed by an understatement :(.

[superpeer]

I quite like his screams, I made an over statement, but I was just annoyed by an understatement :(.

There, there. :)



ANOTHER: Limp Bizkit has quite a few good songs.

[ArcLite]

Metallica, in their prime of course, was one of the best metal bands ever.

A lot of Hair Metal kicks ***.

Tool is the most overrated band in the history of Earth, followed closely by the Beatles.

There is nothing wrong with Nu Metal. It may be talentless ****, but that doesn't mean it can't be enjoyed.

Death's later albums > early ones.

Iced Earth did not die when Barlow left, and they are in no way overrated.

Styx are a great band.

Pop-Punk, from what I've heard anyway, is the worst music to ever disgrace this world's air waves.

Most Jazz is piss. The drumming is usually sweet, but music with no melody is a waste of time. (/Waiting for a flame on this one)

I love Opeth and they're great musicians, but the fanboys need to take their mouths off Mikael's dick and stop acting like they're the most amazing thing sinse Moses splitting the Red Sea.


More to come, most likely.

[Shadows]

^^ Jazz has no melody?? :confused:

I think Shadows Fall is very unique and original.

People give me **** for that one constantly.

[Moses]

- - I think traditional jazz is really, really boring.
- I hate most death metal (Opeth are an exception to this)
- Steven Wilson (Porcupine Tree) is a musical genius and have no idea why the band aren't a lot more famous.
- Children Of Bodom suck.
All of those are really cliche things to say. And Opeth are not deathmetal, for the last time.

I love Opeth and they're great musicians, but the fanboys need to take their mouths off Mikaels dick and stop acting like they're the most amazing thing sinse Moses splitting the Red Sea.
Yeah, my splitting the Red Sea was so much cooler. Just kidding, I love Opeth.

[superpeer]

Death's later albums > early ones.

Pop-Punk, from what I've heard anyway, is the worst music to ever disgrace this world's air waves.


More to come, most likely.

These are not minority opinions in this forum, at all.

[ArcLite]

^^ Jazz has no melody?? :confused:

I think Shadows Fall is very unique and original.

People give me **** for that one constantly.

Most of what I've heard has so much dissonance that it's unbearable for me to listen to. Again, I said MOST, and this is only of what of heard, which isn't much. If someone has some good Jazz with melody I'd be happy to hear it.

[Shadows]

Judging by all the discussion of it here, I'd say hating Children of Bodom really isn't minority either. It seems like an equal number of people hate them to those who love them.

[superpeer]

Judging by all the discussion of it here, I'd say hating Children of Bodom really isn't minority either. It seems like an equal number of people hate them to those who love them.

I like them, but I hate the whoring and the fanboys who think they're the best, heaviest, most technical, fastest metal band in the world.

[Bazarov]

Though Metallica is my third favorite band, I think many people tend to overrate Kirk Hammett and Metallica in general.

I think Van Halen are very overrated.

I also think that RATM and RHCP are overrated as well.

I think America has had better bands than any other country.

[i am the robots]

-Epoch of Unlight should be more popular

[ArcLite]

These are not minority opinions in this forum, at all.

Sorry, whilst writing those I kind of forgot it was minority opinions and just started laying down random ones.

[Shadows]

I like them, but I hate the whoring and the fanboys who think they're the best, heaviest, most technical, fastest metal band in the world.
Very true. :( I like them a lot and I sure as hell hope I've never done that (it's hard to tell sometimes :)).

I dislike much classic rock, which I know offends some people. I have nothing against it, the sound just doesn't appeal to me.

[Arucard]

I'm not a scholar of it, but I've heard enough of it to know that I don't like it. Therefore my OPINION is that it's not good. OPINION.




If you can name at least 5 prominent DM bands you have given a thorough listen, then i will respect your opinion.

[i am the robots]

I like them, but I hate the whoring and the fanboys who think they're the best, heaviest, most technical, fastest metal band in the world.

To quoth a convo I had with a kid in school:

"Matt, guess what I'm listening to?"

"What?"

"Bodom,"

"Good work, you're finally listening to real music,"

"I really think most metal is gay,"

"You should check out Norther, they're pretty similar to Bodom, but better,"

"Metal sucks, Bodom is like the only good Metal band ever, only music from the 60's and 70's is good,"

[superpeer]

Very true. :( I like them a lot and I sure as hell hope I've never done that (it's hard to tell sometimes :)).

I dislike much classic rock, which I know offends some people. I have nothing against it, the sound just doesn't appeal to me.

I dunno, it just annoys me to see another:


My favourite metal bands are: Tool, Opeth, Children of Bodom (\m/), Metallica, Dream Theater (omg dey are teh tehcnicalest eva) and Megadeth.

Or something. It gets old.

[i am the robots]

Would it hurt to say my favorite metal bands are In Flames, Opeth, Korn, Thine Eyes Bleed, Dark Tranquillity, Soilwork, Amon Amarth and Quo Vadis, or is that too trendy?

[Shadows]

Thine Eyes Bleed? :confused: I never thought I'd see someone list them as a favorite band.

[superpeer]

Would it hurt to say my favorite metal bands are In Flames, Opeth, Korn, Thine Eyes Bleed, Dark Tranquillity, Soilwork, Amon Amarth and Quo Vadis, or is that too trendy?

It's borderline. :p

But I don't care if you say that, because I know you know more bands than just those.

I can't say that of a lot of people who post the kind of list that I made earlier.

[i am the robots]

Thine Eyes Bleed? :confused: I never thought I'd see someone list them as a favorite band.

I just think they're really good... Cold Victim = oh God... :amaze:

[Shadows]

I just think they're really good... Cold Victim = oh God... :amaze:
That's a great song. Other then that, I kind of got tired with the album. I think if the guitarists would do more shredding I would like it a lot more.

[Arucard]

I always go with the more hardcore bands that no ones heard of outside of our little mx world when i get asked what music i like.

'What music do you like Joe?'

'Well i like alot of Extreme metal, but also Melodic Hardcore and Punk stuff.'

'Oh. Your a mosher then. What kind of bands?'

'Well i like Arsis, Quo-Vadis, Ark Storm, Necrophagist, Drudkh, Hate Forest, Lost Horizon, Bridge To Solace, Break The Silence, 88 Fingers Louie, The Freaks Union, Argholsent, Vital Remains and... Hey wait, where are you going?!!!'

[Lord Abortion]

AC/DC's songs all sound the same.
Have a cigar.

Pop-Punk, from what I've heard anyway, is the worst music to ever disgrace this world's air waves.
You forgetting dance and techno?

The new Dragonforce album is boring after the 4th song.
Your mum gets boring after the 4th song.

ICB'd

The Blaze Bayley era in Iron Maiden was a good one and Blaze is a good singer
/hands out another cigar

[i am the robots]

I'm happy with the album, they've been my flavor of the past 2 weeks along with Epoch of Unlight.

[Mellotron]

-I hate Iron Maiden
-I'm not a fan of Thrash or Grind at all
-I really like a ton of Pop-Punk and Indie
-I love rap, even some mainstream stuff
-I think Dave Grohl is a great drummer.

[Shadows]

I love all kinds of metal except thrash. I've only heard one or two thrash bands I like, because most thrash bores the living hell out of me.

[guitarded_chuck]

Some cliche opinions I guess..

- Pink Floyd are the best rock band in history.
- Most punk is musically lame and annoying.
- Opeth is actually rather boring at most times.
- Both Fall Out Boy and My Chemical Romance are somewhat good bands.
- Rap does not suck.
- "OFFICIAL" threads took over and ruined the rock and metal forums. It is not a crime to have more than one thread by the same band.

[Mellotron]

I love all kinds of metal except thrash. I've only heard one or two thrash bands I like, because most thrash bores the living hell out of me.
123, except I've really yet to hear a thrash band that I've actually liked.