Zildjian Mystery Ride

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I just picked up a Zildgian Ride from a pawn shop, but I have no idea as to what kind it is. It has the Avedis stamp on the top and the hollow Zildjian logo on the bottom side. So it's fairly old. It has no lathing rings like the A's do though, it's totally smooth. It's heavy as ****, thicker and heavier than most Z customs. My best guess is that it's an earth ride, but I am not sure how long those have been around and from the pictures I have seen, it looks they are not totally smooth like this one is aside from the rampant tarnishing. I picked it up along with a 14" AAX studio crash in great shape, $35 for the both of them. So it was a good deal whatever it is. Any ideas?

[-Funky monk-]

Its probibly an old earth ride, my fathers friend has one, iits heavy like madd

[fatcow2000]

**** man, i need to cash in on these deals u guys are finding... im gonna go look around at some pawn shops.

[Brokensticks]

35$ Can't beat that.

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**** man, i need to cash in on these deals u guys are finding... im gonna go look around at some pawn shops.

If you find your tv and your dad's lawnmower there, I swear it wasn't me.

[Ill Mitch]

Wow, great deal. Post some pics.

[fatcow2000]

hehe, ill remember that:-P.

pics
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35$ Can't beat that.

Yeah, I figured no matter what it was it's worth the money. It was $10, the studio crash was $25.

[fatcow2000]

RIPOFFFFFFFF YOU GOTPIZZOWNED!!!

jk, thats awesome dude.

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Wow, great deal. Post some pics.

I'll tyr to get some pics up by tommorow.

[Starship]

Wow great deal, whatever it is. Congrats.

[Drum Phil]

Bollocks to its aesthetics or price, hows it sound?

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Bollocks to its aesthetics or price, hows it sound?

Not sure yet, I got it on my break. I'm still here at the office.

[Drum Phil]

Ah right. Well i wish to know asap :D

[LittlePound]

Whoah mess!!!!! when i can drive i'm definetely checking out all the pawn shops near me for sweet deals

[The Ska Man]

Take this to cymbalholic.com, you'll get some help there.

[Dookiedude3005]

If there is a number visible somewhere on the cymbal, i'm sure you call up Zildjian and they'll tell you what is by the number(unless it's worn off) then you're stuck...

[meizmatt]

lucky you...unfortunately pawn show are banned in my town

[billdrum]

Hey, nice find man! I check the pawn shops periodically for stuff, but I've never found cymbals. I'd love to see a pic. I'm sure someone can ID it once we see it.

[poppinfresh]

i need pic of stamp

[Half Life]

Sure sounds like an Earth ride by the description you gave. Extremely heavy, no lathing, and very tarnished? I'd bet a fair amount that it's an Earth ride. Combine that with the 14" AAX for $35 bucks? That's insane :eek: What a deal :amaze:

[Murd_666]

If you find your tv and your dad's lawnmower there, I swear it wasn't me.So it was you that did that! lol, that happened to my friend once, anyways 35 bucks, your lucky *waves fist*

[aznriceball]

i saw some kind of paiste paper thin 16" in a pawn shop back wen i was a newb. i wish id gotten it

[puppet.master]

the pawn shops in my city suck about asmuch as long and mcquades used section for cymbals here

:(

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OK, upon further inspection it turns out that it is in fact, an Earth ride. It has a clearly defined medium-deep ping with little yet unusual overtones. I used it at my band's rehearsal tonight and my band said the overtones sounded like a background string arrangement (?)(!) This thing is the heaviest ride I have ever seen, it weighs like 20 pounds! I have a few questions, answers wil be rewarded.

1) What year did Zildjian stop using the hollow logo? This ride has it, so I know it is fairly old.

2) Will polishing this cymbal ruin/change it's trademark sound? Some douche at the pawn shop wrote the price on the cymbal with a sharpie marker.

3) What can I use to get the sticker tag residue off the studio crash without messing up the finish?

[aznriceball]

to #3

light isopropal alcohol if ur extremely careful, or ur good friend groove juice

[Double Bass Jim]

Pics pics pics! :)

[dj_ando]

i've only ever played/felt one earth ride, and it was a heavy bastard! didn't sound great to me, not my kinda thing, but $35 is a steal. nice goin!

[Tim]

3) What can I use to get the sticker tag residue off the studio crash without messing up the finish?

jsut use regular soap and warm water and dry it really good.

[Double Bass Jim]

Yea that works great, all ya need too.

[Tim]

i never get those sticker marks. it usually happens when you try to peel it off all fast thinkin itll come off smooth.

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i never get those sticker marks. it usually happens when you try to peel it off all fast thinkin itll come off smooth.

These are pawn shop stickers. They are a force to be reckoned with. I'll try the soap and water though.

I'll post pics when I get home from work today. Also, what about polishing the Earth Ride? Will it effect the sound? I know they come rather "raw" looking, but I just really want to get that freakin' marker off of there.

[poppinfresh]

i wouldnt clean it. Just play on that area that has sharpie with wooden tipped sticks and it will come off.

As for the polishing, the only polishing i would do would be with a lcoth and nothing else, just rub it clean.

[Double Bass Jim]

You can polish it, it's not going to change the look.

[Corkofski]

watered down nail varnish remover gets rid of sharpie

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Alright, as promised, here are some pics:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/Obscuritypics/4.jpg
The dirty old ride.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/Obscuritypics/5.jpg
Another shot from farther away.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/Obscuritypics/3.jpg
The barely visible Zildjian hollow logo.

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http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/Obscuritypics/6.jpg
The crappiest shot ever of the avedis stamp.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/Obscuritypics/2.jpg
The studio crash complete with supernaturally sticky pawn shop stickers.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y241/Obscuritypics/1.jpg
Oh shi, how did that get there?

[Plan B.]

Beauty.

:cool:

[rockindrummer]

Awsome man, they both look really good. That is an amazing find, 35$ :amaze:

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Awsome man, they both look really good. That is an amazing find, 35$ :amaze:

Actually it was only $10, the studio crash was $25.

You can polish it, it's not going to change the look.

It won't change the look? What about the sound?

i wouldnt clean it. Just play on that area that has sharpie with wooden tipped sticks and it will come off.


Ha ha ha, that actually work, I just rubbed tha marker off with the shaft of the stick. :thumb:

jsut use regular soap and warm water and dry it really good.

Dish soap or bar soap?

[Double Bass Jim]

It won't change the look? What about the sound?
Naa, I wouldnt worry about that.

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Naa, I wouldnt worry about that.

Ok then, groove juice here I come.


Any idea when Zildjian stopped using the hollow logo? I'm trying to figure out how old this ride is.

[Double Bass Jim]

Is that a kestral? The bird that is.

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Is that a kestral? The bird that is.

Ha ha ha, no it's just a plain old chicken. In a rather suggestive pose.

[Double Bass Jim]

Haha ohh wow. Almost has a falcon look to it the smaller variations.

[mprules]

that ride lookes awesome

so.... old

[Drum Phil]

Haha ohh wow. Almost has a falcon look to it the smaller variations.

Has more of a sparrowhawk look to me

[Tim]

Dish soap or bar soap?

just any regular soap you use to wash your hands or dish soap works. you really dont need to put too much soap though. just a little bit will do enough.

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just any regular soap you use to wash your hands or dish soap works. you really dont need to put too much soap though. just a little bit will do enough.

Ok thanks. :thumb:

[innerlo2]

If you use groove juice, you'll most likely lose whats left of the logo. Also if the cymbal becomes brighter, the tone will change slightly. But prolly not enough for most to notice.

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If you use groove juice, you'll most likely lose whats left of the logo. Also if the cymbal becomes brighter, the tone will change slightly. But prolly not enough for most to notice.

Well, I plan on just polishing the top. I think the ride could benefit from a slightly brighter tone, so I was actually kind of hoping that is what would happen.

[The Ska Man]

I wouldn't clean it man. Cymbals sound lots better dirty.

[playwithfire]

^Dirty with stick residue, not dirty with gross black soot, which is what I've found most Earth rides to be covered in :p.