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fatcow2000

10-31-2005, 10:43 PM

ive been thinking about buying a new main (14", preferably) snare drum. i have about $300 to spend. i want something thats got a lot of crack, and a 'decent' amount of ring.

ive been looking at pearl freefloating maple, piglite (pork pie), pearl sensitone brass, ... any suggestions, those are just a few types that i really like.

playwithfire

10-31-2005, 11:05 PM

Dude, Edge's go for like $1200 CND.

fatcow2000

10-31-2005, 11:20 PM

well... forget i mentioned those.

playwithfire

10-31-2005, 11:23 PM

I've heard good things about Chad Smith Signatures, they are steel, so probably have a nice amount of ring, and are a versatile size that I don't doubt you could get some nice crack out of.

Bryan Blakey

10-31-2005, 11:25 PM

I wish I had the money to buy a new snare drum, mine is terrible. But nice ones are so expensive and I need the money for my car payments. :(

bobby__johnny

10-31-2005, 11:37 PM

$300? ....Black Panther Bronze anyone?

fatcow2000

10-31-2005, 11:40 PM

dude... bronze black panthers go for like $900 on ebay... thats a bit too much

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bronze-Black-Panther_W0QQitemZ4413967040QQcategoryZ45490QQssPag eNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

lol.

Sam Bredeson

10-31-2005, 11:42 PM

When I'm finished building mine it quite possibly will be up for sale... 7x13" 3/4 inch butternut stave. Im not quite sure what butternut will sound like, I'll let you know...

Tim

10-31-2005, 11:43 PM

Half Life

10-31-2005, 11:43 PM

Tama 5.5X14" Artwood. Get that and you'll have money left over to go buy a Coated G1 and Hazy 200 to replace the stock heads and then you'll be ready to rock :thumb:

fatcow2000

10-31-2005, 11:45 PM

not a tama man... but i will def. give it a listen

Sam Bredeson

10-31-2005, 11:52 PM

"This bronze panther adds character to any location. Great for home or garden. Made from the lost wax casting method, it measures approx. 25"x48"x20". Terrific gift idea with the holidays quickly approaching. Includes free shipping."

How the **** did they wax cast a panther sitting on a log?? Anyone else not get that?

fatcow2000

10-31-2005, 11:54 PM

Motleyguy

11-01-2005, 12:23 AM

Dude, Edge's go for like $1200 CND.

Not true, I was looking into one,a nd Long and Mcquade was gonna order it for me, $800 cdn. Still out of the $300 you're thinking of spending.

fatcow2000

11-01-2005, 12:26 AM

Not true, I was looking into one,a nd Long and Mcquade was gonna order it for me, $800 cdn. Still out of the $300 you're thinking of spending.

lol... thank you?:lol:

styler

11-01-2005, 01:12 AM

the chad smith has lots of crack but not much ring, and i dont much care for its low end, nice snare though

fatcow2000

11-01-2005, 01:17 AM

well, i dont want much ring, ill look at that, def.

playwithfire

11-01-2005, 03:00 AM

Not true, I was looking into one,a nd Long and Mcquade was gonna order it for me, $800 cdn. Still out of the $300 you're thinking of spending.What finish man, you cheaping out and getting a Finish Ply? :p. Long & Mcquade gave me that quote for the one I'm looking at ordering with my kit when I round up some funds.

Bone

11-01-2005, 04:17 AM

Stay away from anything "signature". You'll be paying for a name on a drum.

Look into custom stuff. Conaway has a grip of snares at or under that price range.

fatcow2000

11-01-2005, 02:22 PM

he can put my signature on the snare too, which is sexy... yes you have a point, im going to get a quote from him sometime soon.

fatcow2000

11-01-2005, 02:35 PM

conaway brass snare drums... he has some polished and unpolished, any difference in sound? the polished are prettier... anyone ever seen a metal shell with vents?

Drum Phil

11-01-2005, 02:39 PM

Vents remove some of the body so i dont like them :)

fatcow2000

11-01-2005, 02:44 PM

thats true...

The Ska Man

11-01-2005, 02:55 PM

conaway brass snare drums... he has some polished and unpolished, any difference in sound? the polished are prettier... anyone ever seen a metal shell with vents?

So, you do want to shatter your eardrums. It'd be crazy loud, man.

Bone

11-01-2005, 03:02 PM

conaway brass snare drums... he has some polished and unpolished, any difference in sound? the polished are prettier... anyone ever seen a metal shell with vents?

Yes. Most all snare drums in general have some vent on them of some kind. The exception to my knowledge is Dunnett.

Not much of a difference in sound for the outside of the finish. Polished or unpolished on the inside will make a difference though.

If you are refearing to extra venting, ala "OCDP Style" - Be prepared for an incredibly loud snare.

Say you weant with a 14x6 with 4 1.25" vents in a brass. You'd be able to breath on it and get a sound. Every little thing will be more prounouced and noticable.
You won't really loose that much tone as you aren't taking away that much of the shell. You'll be basically altering the pyhsics of the air movement inside the drum, wich consequently results in a different sound. In this case, it'll effectively dry the sound out.

fatcow2000

11-01-2005, 03:13 PM

so your saying i should probably order two snares, one with vents and one without and whichever i like best keep, and the other sell on ebay?

?

fatcow2000

11-01-2005, 03:15 PM

So, you do want to shatter your eardrums. It'd be crazy loud, man.

im a custom snare whore... lol

Bone

11-01-2005, 03:20 PM

so your saying i should probably order two snares, one with vents and one without and whichever i like best keep, and the other sell on ebay?

?

Not at all. I'd suggest playing on as many snare drums as you can to get an idea of what different materials, sizes and possibly vents would sound like.

Guitar Center's useally have 30 or so snare drums lying about. Not to mention any drum shop near by.

If you are planning on junking your current snare, you could vent that to see how things sound. Start with smaller ones and make them bigger to give you a very good idea of the effect of venting.

You could also just kidna split the difference so to speak and order your brass snare with 4 normal air vents. Something a lil different, but not so extreme as the larger style. You could even do 10 say, one between each lug. That would be 10x the venting on a normal snare. Wouldn't cost much at all over the base price too.

It's custom, be creative.

The Ska Man

11-01-2005, 03:20 PM

so your saying i should probably order two snares, one with vents and one without and whichever i like best keep, and the other sell on ebay?

?

Order a non-vented snare. Then, If you -must- make it dryer/louder, have it vented.

fatcow2000

11-01-2005, 03:36 PM

im not getting rid of my current main...

what snare on conaways site would you think creates the least ring-age?

Bone

11-01-2005, 03:58 PM

Not a metal snare unless it's heavily vented.

Metal snares have the most amount of overtones.

It thus follows that the harder the wood, the more "ringing".

If you want a very dry snare, just have it vented. Four 1" vents on a 5" deep, 1.25" on a 6" deep, etc..

fatcow2000

11-01-2005, 05:00 PM

i think ive decided... i want something thats "holy ****" loud, with lots of response, lots of pop/crack, little-medium overtones, and it looks pretty.

black nickel plated brass - 6.5 x 14 w/ (4) 1.5" vents
(20) 50% offset tube lugs (single sided)*
diecast hoops*
black trick (or nickel) strainer(and butt)

everything w/ *'s is going to be powdercoated... probably red to match my kits sparkle finish..

i want a sound like this... http://www.indoorstorm.com/product_info.php?products_id=2746

"Play an MP3 of this Snare!!" <-that with a tad bit more ring.

spike9908

11-01-2005, 05:17 PM

if you want it to sound like that, getting brass isnt going to come close. maple is much warmer than brass. less ring naturally.

fatcow2000

11-01-2005, 05:19 PM

well, im going for something origional sounding, it can have some ring, i just dont want it to be a ****ty ring (my first steel snare was a pearl forum... and its all i have to judge metal shells by)

also, im not looking for much warmth... i just want a nice crack with a 'good' amount of ring, and something that looks/feels like my own custom creation.

Bone

11-01-2005, 06:03 PM

I'd ditch the Die-Cast hoops.

That kind of snare is going to be so dry to begin with throwing die-casts on there is only going to make it worse.

-Funky monk-

11-01-2005, 06:17 PM

Black panther Deepforest series..

fatcow2000

11-01-2005, 06:20 PM

I'd ditch the Die-Cast hoops.

That kind of snare is going to be so dry to begin with throwing die-casts on there is only going to make it worse.

lol, u worry me when u say its going to be 'so' dry... im going to have to do some research...

maybe a 6.5x14 same thing with no vents and reinforcement rings(higher pitch) is what im looking for...

Happy_Squirrel

11-01-2005, 06:27 PM

i think ive decided... i want something thats "holy ****" loud, with lots of response, lots of pop/crack, little-medium overtones, and it looks pretty.
I can't believe that no one's suggested a Yamaha 13" Musashi Oak Snare. I know that you're looking for a 14" snare, but this thing cracks and it's loud as hell. It's also cheap ($230 from MF I think). I'm gonna' get one as soon as I save some dough.

Also, you might consider a 14" Tama Maple Starclassic. It's a little over your budget ($390, I think) but it's a really nice snare.

fatcow2000

11-01-2005, 06:29 PM

I can't believe that no one's suggested a Yamaha 13" Musashi Oak Snare. I know that you're looking for a 14" snare, but this thing cracks and it's loud as hell. It's also cheap ($230 from MF I think). I'm gonna' get one as soon as I save some dough.

Also, you might consider a 14" Tama Maple Starclassic. It's a little over your budget ($390, I think) but it's a really nice snare.

im writing all of these snares down and visiting gc... get some specs, and get them custom built... i rly have my heart set on a custom for christmas.. and not an OsirisX custom...

Drum Phil

11-01-2005, 06:58 PM

and not an OsirisX custom...

:lol:

spike9908

11-01-2005, 07:09 PM

well, you never know if that scammer is going to show up trying to sell you one.

fatcow2000

11-01-2005, 07:20 PM

funny thing is he did try to sell me one... i had his aim s.n. and all of that jazz.. was gonna be a stave shell with a curly maple veneer... o well, ive got my wooden shell, going for a metal shell... then a full acrylic set. heh.

i think ill jus get the snare, but with no vents, see how i like it, if i want a change, get someone to cut it for me. heh.

Murd_666

11-01-2005, 09:10 PM

Look around, they're are some no names or some unknown brands that will do the trick, I have a Royce Snare got for 40 bucks with two toms also, it's nice and cracky and loud as hell! It also has some ring to it when it had the coated amb....