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dedworx
10-31-2005, 07:04 PM
hi,
replacing old cymbals with new ones and thinking along the lines of k customs 17' and 18'. they sound great and would suit my playing i think,rocky/groovy. just wondering about durability in them because they're thin. i think technique wise i'm ok with thins but i want to be confident that i can hit them without worrying i'm going to break them.
all opinions and suggestions appreciated
cheers
matt
Tim
10-31-2005, 07:10 PM
so long as you have good technique they should do you fine. as long as you arent bashing them liek a madman i think youll be fine.
slickrick1688
10-31-2005, 07:16 PM
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Dookiedude3005
10-31-2005, 07:29 PM
will you be crashing on one of them? if you are i would aim for med-thins, you can never be too careful with these kind of investments.
Aaron
10-31-2005, 07:32 PM
unless you play with improper technique, they're a great investment with a great sophisticated voice; they're proper cymbals!
rockindrummer
10-31-2005, 08:04 PM
I would go with a medium-thin cymbal if your going to be crashing it a lot. But ya pretty much like everyone else said, if you have proper technique then they will last a long time.
Double Bass Jim
10-31-2005, 09:28 PM
Yea I wouldnt worry about it, they'll be fine.
playwithfire
10-31-2005, 09:43 PM
Thins hold up just as good as heavies imo. They have a lot more give, so you can crash them easily if you know what you're doing. I'm planning on getting a nice big 20" thin crash.

K Customs are great cymbals, they are dark, and usually very dry and articulate. Some of them look crazy ugly, but when you hear them, you won't care.
Double Bass Jim
10-31-2005, 09:44 PM
Thins hold up just as good as heavies imo.
I agree, I never bought into the "thicker" is stronger idea.
Tim
10-31-2005, 09:45 PM
I agree, I never bought into the "thicker" is stronger idea.

me either. mediums and medium thins for me. ill never buy anything heavier for a crash.
playwithfire
10-31-2005, 09:53 PM
Medium is the heaviest weight you could need really. Thin, Medium Thin, and Medium. Those are your golden tickets when buying crashes. Paper Thins are almost too thin, but they can sound great too. Heavy crashes in my opinion need to be hit too hard to get a full tone, and they aren't that responsive. I find that what Paiste calls heavy though, such as Power crashes in the Signature line, don't equal the weight of what Zildjian call heavy, so you have to keep that in mind as well.
Double Bass Jim
10-31-2005, 10:00 PM
Yea only heavy I liked was the "A rock crash" sounded pretty good.
beaker_747
11-01-2005, 01:44 AM
Play with conviction, but don't overkill or underplay.
mysticalyeti
11-01-2005, 02:31 AM
The only heavy crash by classification that I've really liked so far is my Sig power crash...

And yeah, I've even heard that some heavier cymbals can crack EASIER, though I'm not sure of the validity of that. I think it had something to do with the newer Z customs' hammering, they broke easier than lighter weight cymbals or something. Then again, it was pretty much hearsay.
Aaron
11-01-2005, 02:37 AM
K-Customs are good [to get this back on track] buy them by the truckload
playwithfire
11-01-2005, 03:03 AM
Yeah, buy them by the truckload, if you've just mortgaged your house I'm sure you can afford it! :).

mysticalyeti, I totally agree, Signature Power crashes are the only "heavy" weight crashes that I like, but I find them to be more on par with a medium Zildjian or Sabian.
3_times_round
11-01-2005, 04:35 AM
The only heavy crash by classification that I've really liked so far is my Sig power crash...

And yeah, I've even heard that some heavier cymbals can crack EASIER, though I'm not sure of the validity of that. I think it had something to do with the newer Z customs' hammering, they broke easier than lighter weight cymbals or something. Then again, it was pretty much hearsay.

That's because idiots think they can hit them harder as they are heavier.
playwithfire
11-01-2005, 04:36 AM
Well, to be truthful you *do* have to hit them harder to get full tone out of them, but that doesn't mean you have to pretend you're babe ruth grand slamming cymbals like baseballs.
Bone
11-01-2005, 04:45 AM
It's all about playing drums.


If you are worrying about breaking gear. You need to seek some instruction on basic technique.


Simple as that.
dj_ando
11-01-2005, 05:51 AM
bone, you are the man!
aznriceball
11-01-2005, 10:32 AM
thinner cymbals tend to 'give' more, so just watch ur technique