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SkaRabbit
10-30-2005, 03:02 PM
anyone got a pic on there kit of what they look like. i hate going by the pictures on internet sites as they always look fake(and what i can tell these cymbals look worse then the B8's) and no local stores sell them. and i have found a decent price. and have heard many things. but hopefully i can find a soundclip to.

dpakman91
10-30-2005, 03:07 PM
here;'s my kit:

http://www.skaloosh.com/pictures/drums1.JPG
http://www.skaloosh.com/pictures/drums3.JPG
http://www.skaloosh.com/pictures/drums5.JPG
http://www.skaloosh.com/pictures/drums6.JPG

SkaRabbit
10-30-2005, 03:18 PM
they look to me as if they are gona have a long ring after hitting the cymbal. like cheap bits of metal? do you have a description of them? or how they compare to other cymbals? thanks for the pictures:)

daveplaysdrums
10-30-2005, 03:23 PM
I have a good set of XS20s, had a discussion on here about em a while back. I like them, but they need other brands to compliment and perhaps give a fuller sound. The 18" has a fairly deep sound, the 14" sounds a bit hollow? Not sure how to describe it. But on the whole, I like them. If you can get a great deal on them like I did, go for it!

dpakman91
10-30-2005, 03:25 PM
agreed, i like them on the whole, but am adding the wuhan s series pack...16" and 18" crashes, and 18" chinas, which are getting delivered to me on tuesday. i think together it will be a good sound for not that much money.

SkaRabbit
10-30-2005, 03:32 PM
so they arent gongy? i am looking for wuhan S. but they are hard to come by in england. loads of stagg though. i have a prosonix ride to compliment. and a nice paiste 802 splash

dpakman91
10-30-2005, 03:43 PM
so they arent gongy? i am looking for wuhan S. but they are hard to come by in england. loads of stagg though. i have a prosonix ride to compliment. and a nice paiste 802 splash

i don't think they are gongy, BUT i haven't had too many different cymbals.

SkaRabbit
10-30-2005, 03:49 PM
cheers. well i think this deal is good. for £189 i would get

1 x 14" Hi hats
1 x 10" Splash
1 x 14" Crash
1 x 16" Crash
1 x 20" Ride
1 x Sabian cymbal bag

fatcow2000
10-30-2005, 03:49 PM
pakman, can u post some pics of ur kit with the new wuhans when you get them, im dieing to see a kit with some wuhans on them... ill be ordering the same crash pack in a month or two.

demondrummer1
10-30-2005, 03:59 PM
cheers. well i think this deal is good. for £189 i would get

1 x 14" Hi hats
1 x 10" Splash
1 x 14" Crash
1 x 16" Crash
1 x 20" Ride
1 x Sabian cymbal bag

That's the exact deal I got. http://www.drumshop.co.uk, right?

So I've got those cymbals, but I can't describe them very well.

i don't think they are gongy, BUT i haven't had too many different cymbals.

Same here.
:wave:

bobby__johnny
10-30-2005, 04:36 PM
dont buy the rock models. my 18" Rock crash is all gongy. the only thing that saves it is its Dom Famularo Autograph

SkaRabbit
10-30-2005, 05:31 PM
yeah on drumshop. good deal aint it

dpakman91
10-30-2005, 08:29 PM
pakman, can u post some pics of ur kit with the new wuhans when you get them, im dieing to see a kit with some wuhans on them... ill be ordering the same crash pack in a month or two.

will do, UPS.com says i'll have them tuesday :naughty:

playwithfire
10-30-2005, 08:50 PM
they look to me as if they are gona have a long ring after hitting the cymbal.You're an expert on lathing and hammering and things of that nature, so you can tell what a cymbal will sound like just by looking at it? That's impressive ;).

bobby__johnny
10-30-2005, 09:22 PM
i am ;)

SonorPhil
10-30-2005, 09:25 PM
I got them for free when i bought my Sonor set. It was the rock pack and i didnt like the crash or hats because they were waay too thick but the ride is pretty nice sounding.

CombatWombat3
10-30-2005, 09:25 PM
Our school has a medium thin 16" crash, it has a wonderful sound. It has a nice, shimmering crash with a fast and smooth decay. We use it for jazz band.

bobby__johnny
10-30-2005, 09:38 PM
the Medium-thins are ok. i've heard a few that are great crashes, other that are gongs. be careful when picking those

playwithfire
10-30-2005, 10:20 PM
i am ;):lol: Some of us are, yes, but tone and definition are easier to pick out than "gonginess" lol.

bobby__johnny
10-30-2005, 10:39 PM
perhaps....but enh. i've heard more gongy XS20's than pleasant ones

RichHunt
10-31-2005, 12:21 AM
They're decent cymbals. I think I'd rather have them than 502's, b8's (naturally), zbts.

I think they're about on par with 802's. I'd rather have xs20 crashes than the 802s though. I had an 802 plus crash once.. man that thing is glassy, and not in a good way. At least, I don't think so.

zfzgg
10-31-2005, 12:37 AM
I have a "performance" set of XS20's. 14/16/20. -I think they're pretty good...The ride is a bit Bright and washy for my tastes though, the crash sounds a tad dead, and the hats are a bit rough sounding when you play them loose.

But! i still think they were worth the money (free with my kit)

Motleyguy
10-31-2005, 12:51 AM
I have a pair of xs20 hats. I find they are really heavy, and sort of chunky sounding...they sound decent...but I'd really rather have something lighter now. Good for a rock setting.

fatcow2000
10-31-2005, 01:14 AM
will do, UPS.com says i'll have them tuesday :naughty:

thank you... its going to be the first kit ive ever seen with wuhan crashes. thanks dude!

Aaron
10-31-2005, 06:27 AM
thats cause jim wont post his, the bludger! haha, jokes jimbo

daveplaysdrums
10-31-2005, 06:51 AM
That's the exact deal I got.

Same here at my local store, except i swapped the 20 ride for the 18 crash and he knocked another 15 off, so i bought a pinstripe drum head, paid 200 and said i'd owe em a tenner. When I went in to collect the 18" they'd forgotten i owed em anything, so that was even more off. :lol:

Double Bass Jim
10-31-2005, 04:54 PM
I can't reccomend the XS20's to be honest, id reccomend the B8pro's over those. IMO they have a MUCH better tone, less gongy and overall just plain better.

playwithfire
10-31-2005, 05:27 PM
But Jimbo! B8 Pros don't have the marketing gimmick of being made with B20 bronze! The finest cymbal making metal in the industry :lol:. Crazy how people buy into that... there's so much more to cymbals than just what they are made of.

Double Bass Jim
10-31-2005, 05:32 PM
Haha exactly, you have to look past that crap.

Listen with your ears not your eyes.

Drum Phil
10-31-2005, 05:34 PM
They seem to go BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHNNNNNNGGGGG :)

stevoibanez
10-31-2005, 06:37 PM
The only xs20 that are gongy are the rock models. The rest sound pretty good for the price. The china is actually really nice

SkaRabbit
11-01-2005, 11:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SkaRabbit
they look to me as if they are gona have a long ring after hitting the cymbal.

You're an expert on lathing and hammering and things of that nature, so you can tell what a cymbal will sound like just by looking at it? That's impressive .


And i decided to make a thread about it asking for fun did i? thats why i am asking. i even said im looking for soundclips. but i wanted some general opinions and the people who dont spend there lives making uneccesary comments for no reason have been kind enough to answer. and yes you can often tell by looking at a cymbal what it is going to sound like.

thank you to everyone for there nice replies