Help soloing over a decending line.

[Tryxx]

G- | G-maj7 | G-7 | G-6

Descending line: G F# F E

Here's a couple lines that I'm trying to solo over. You can probably get the feel of them fairly well. The first has a latin bossa feel, the second is a walking line.

G:---77----77----77-----------
D:-5---5-4---4-3---3-2-2---2-4
A:-----------------------5----
E:----------------------------
Repeat.

G:------------------------------------
D:-----5-4-5-4---=---3-5-3---2-3-5-3--
A:---5---------5---5-------5---------5
E:-3-------------3--------------------

Repeat.



I have the general feel, I'd just like some patterns get a little help on where to go.

[SixnStones]

This thread suprised me as slightly n00bish. I'v always thought MX can't and shouldn't solo for you, you and only you can write your own solo. Aside from stay in key and sound cool

Soz, just my 2¢, flame if u wish.

[Tryxx]

The thing is the key changes, that's the whole point. There's sort chord tones and modes you can stick too, but it's not as simple as you like to think. You can put two different decending lines together and it becomes much more complicated.

[slickric3462]

how long are you on each chord for?

[Aberrationbass]

you dont have to stay in key but you have to make it sound good
try ascending over the descending line it sounds cool

[SixnStones]

see...?

[Sade]

I did something similar to what Aberration said in my latest composistion. In one section, the tapping riff descends, but the melody ascends over the same notes. Gives it a nice feel.

Try making the chord changes whole steps, instead of half steps-and then pick part of a single scale to solo over and stay in while the chord changes take care of the shift for you.

[Tryxx]

how long are you on each chord for?

Top line, one space is pretty much quarter notes, together would be 8ths. Walking line is just however you want to groove.

[AlmightyPancake]

This thread suprised me as slightly n00bish. I'v always thought MX can't and shouldn't solo for you, you and only you can write your own solo. Aside from stay in key and sound cool

Soz, just my 2¢, flame if u wish.
You're a ****ing idiot. This thread is not "How Does I soloz lolz?!" or anything along those lines. Tryxx can solo perfectly fine. The question is one of patterns, rhythms, and musical theory of a sort that takes years of learning to become proficient at.

So **** off.

And Tryxx, one thing I'd reccomend is a modal change based on the minor blues scale; make sure you touch B on occasion to be sure to establish that as the tonal center.

[Tryxx]

That actually makes sense, how about trading off to the Bb occasionally, or do you think that will interfere? Thanks for the defense as well.

[AlmightyPancake]

That actually makes sense, how about trading off to the Bb occasionally, or do you think that will interfere? Thanks for the defense as well.
What key is the actual song in? The Bb may be a bit much, simply because you'll end up with the Bb-E tritone effect going on, which would make it seem as though the tonal center was Bb or even A, for that matter. It'd be cool to use it, just in caution.

[Tryxx]

Understandable, I kind of like working with the tritone though. It's kind of like nitroglycerine, I don't want to change the center of the key or anything, just shift your thinking. Does that make sense?

[Esp Griffyn]

Understandable, I kind of like working with the tritone though. It's kind of like nitroglycerine,

Explosiv wie Kerosene?

/Rammstein

Seriously, Im not getting the Nitroglycerine reference, no offense, but can you explain that for me?

[Tryxx]

I'll use a quote out of the bass player book.

These are the only half-steps in a major scale; listen as you use them, because playing them can be the best way to define the tonal center or to bring out the color of your music. (On the other hand if you want the tonality to be vague, stay away from them.)

...

A late-medieval nickname for the tritone was diabolus in musica, because it was conisdered a dangerous and awkward interval. (I have even heard that the tree tines of the devil's pitchfork signify the three whole-steps in a tritone.) Weno longer think of the tritone as evil, but it is distinctive...

[Esp Griffyn]

ok, sorry to sound like an asshole, but Im not sure how that is similar to a Lipid based chemical...

So these Tritones can be hard to use, and can make a piece (like in a slayer song, if you consider a slayer song "Made") or break a piece.

But Im not sure where Nitroglycerin comes into it.

[slickric3462]

i dont understand, thats not even a decsending line, theyre all diffrent kinds of g chords therefore the root stays the same why the hell would you use b minor blues...why not just use g mixolydian for the g-7, g maj for the other chords...and no offense but you guys are trying way too hard to sound musically intelegent...jsut stick to the basics

[Tryxx]

ok, sorry to sound like an spatula, but Im not sure how that is similar to a Lipid based chemical...

So these Tritones can be hard to use, and can make a piece (like in a slayer song, if you consider a slayer song "Made") or break a piece.

But Im not sure where Nitroglycerin comes into it.

It was just a metaphore because it goes "boom." :upset:

[Tryxx]

And that's that.