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Ozduck
10-29-2005, 02:21 AM
Hey guys
i have been trying to find a good audio interface or something similar that will allow me to record all my microphones onto different channels so that i can have more control on drums and such later on in the mix.
http://www.behringer.com/ADA8000/index.cfm?lang=ENG
i came across this and from what i gather it has 8 inputs... does that allow me to record 8 channels simultaneously?? if so its a good price??
what else would you gusy recommend??? weather that be interface or something else?
thanks
airborne50caliber
10-29-2005, 03:03 AM
Are you sure that's a conventional computer interface? Looks more like adat a/d converters in there.
gaz12369
10-29-2005, 06:08 AM
Like airborne said, you'd need some sort of adat interface in your computer, and they generally dont come cheap.
Your better off getting something like an M-audio Delta 1010 (if you allready have the pre-amps), or a Presonus Firepod if you don't.
o/t - check this out! http://www.behringer.com/FCA202/index.cfm?lang=ENG
£62! for about £250 you could chain four of those up and have an 8 i/o high quality firewire interface! Damn right Behringer!
p.s! Even comes with Ableton Live Lite 4 Behringer Edition!!
The Futures Good, The Futures Behringer:p
PdpDrummer3
10-30-2005, 12:21 AM
u could get a tascam US-122 audio interface and then connect it to a mixer like behringer euroracks. look on ebay too. they got good deals.
Ozduck
10-30-2005, 01:04 AM
thats guys :) looking into them all now!
how would you go about chaining up those four behringer ones?
how about something simple like this??
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/M-AUDIO-DELTA-44-NEW-SOUND-CARD-AUDIO-INTERFACE_W0QQitemZ7361350111QQcategoryZ23784QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem
airborne50caliber
10-30-2005, 02:02 AM
Not bad, Behringer. One nil.
gaz12369
10-30-2005, 05:29 AM
how would you go about chaining up those four behringer ones?
Well because their firewire they have two firewire ports. You then simply plug a firewire cable from the out of one into the in of the next, and carry on chaining them like this, and then the two ends go back to the PC.
Easy:)
atarisrock55
10-30-2005, 02:55 PM
Hey guys
i have been trying to find a good audio interface or something similar that will allow me to record all my microphones onto different channels so that i can have more control on drums and such later on in the mix.
http://www.behringer.com/ADA8000/index.cfm?lang=ENG
i came across this and from what i gather it has 8 inputs... does that allow me to record 8 channels simultaneously?? if so its a good price??
what else would you gusy recommend??? weather that be interface or something else?
thanks
http://www.alesis.com/product.php?id=94
I'm about to buy one of these, its a mixer/interface and can record 8 simultaneous mics.
airborne50caliber
10-30-2005, 04:21 PM
and then the two ends go back to the PC.
Really? I don't really get that, you have two firewire cables going back in? Which one is recognised by the computer as carrying the signal?
gaz12369
10-30-2005, 04:36 PM
Really? I don't really get that, you have two firewire cables going back in? Which one is recognised by the computer as carrying the signal
Yeah, it operates as a chain rather than single sources like USB, or so i believe. It just has a send and recieve on the interface card, and then you just link everything up I think. I may be wrong, but it is deffinately more of a chain than single devices.
airborne50caliber
10-30-2005, 05:06 PM
I would have thought you link them all with firewire cables and then you use the second port on the last one to connect everything to the computer... wow that fart smelt like beer.
Moseph
10-30-2005, 10:50 PM
Not bad, Behringer. One nil.
who's got the nil? virtually every other company has a 2 channel interface of some sort (including Focusrite, who traditionally didn't deal in audio). Did I miss somebody not releasing one, or is this just a price competition?
Moseph
10-30-2005, 10:51 PM
I would have thought you link them all with firewire cables and then you use the second port on the last one to connect everything to the computer... wow that fart smelt like beer.
It's called "Daisy-chaining." You just connect each cable into the next device. Firewire is fast enough to handle both the input and output in one cable.
Ozduck
10-31-2005, 01:40 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/M-AUDIO-DELTA-44-NEW-SOUND-CARD-AUDIO-INTERFACE_W0QQitemZ7361350111QQcategoryZ23784QQrdZ %20%201QQcmdZViewItem
would something like that be alright... saying i add micpreamps for each channel??
gaz12369
10-31-2005, 03:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by airborne50caliber
I would have thought you link them all with firewire cables and then you use the second port on the last one to connect everything to the computer... wow that fart smelt like beer.
It's called "Daisy-chaining." You just connect each cable into the next device. Firewire is fast enough to handle both the input and output in one cable.
Yeah after thinking about it a bit i thought that was probably how it was done. And to the guy up there, yes, it will cost around £55. I know what im going to use when I'm in uni and i cant have masses of gear:naughty:
G
airborne50caliber
10-31-2005, 08:07 AM
who's got the nil?
the behringer skeptics.
Moseph
11-01-2005, 03:18 AM
the behringer skeptics.
Call me crazy, but I'll take my tascam over that thing (or 8 of them, I guess) any day. Let's forget about the Behringer skepticisms for a second and discuss the stats alone.
Tascam: 18 channels after ADAT & S/PDIF vs. Behringer: 16 channels after 8 daisy-chained units (you could feasibly match it with 9 units I suppose, but at some point you're pushing the boundaries of your computer's daisy-chaining abilities)
T: rack mountable vs. B: loose device (I didn't see a rackmounting kit either)
T: 4 preamps vs. B: 0 preamps
T: comes with Cubase and GigaStudio vs. B: comes with Abelton Live, Audacity and Kristal (one of which is known to be unreliable, one of which is open-source, and one of which is going to be discontinued sometime next year for a new product)
T: powered via wall vs. B: powered via wall or firewire
T: $70 US per native channel vs. B: $50 US per native channel
T: up to 24b/96k for 10 channels, up to 24b/48 for 18 vs. B: up to 24b/96k for 2 channels
with the exception of price (which is negated when you also consider mic pres and phantom power on the Behringer unit) and power flexibility, the Tascam 1804 comes out on top in all the relevant categories. The Firepod, btw, takes it a step further than that by giving 8 preamps rather than 4. I don't see this thing as a revolutionary device. It's just Behringer trying to maintain a foothold in the market versus M-Audio, Focusrite, Yamaha, Tascam, and Digidesign (all of which are offering preamps in their units btw). I realize Gaz is all about Behringer products, but in this case I see a lackluster product that'll lure folks in based on price alone b/c they don't know any better. For roughly $30 US more, you could pick up a US-122, which has similar features, but also phantom power, preamps, a better software package, and MIDI. Just something to chew on for the rest of 4th quarter 2005.
gaz12369
11-01-2005, 06:05 AM
I realize Gaz is all about Behringer products, but in this case I see a lackluster product that'll lure folks in based on price alone b/c they don't know any better.
Nah, i avoid Behringer, i dont own a single product of theirs.
Yeah, you'r totally right, 4 daisy chained units would be pretty lame - you can get much more for your money, but i like the idea of a single one of them, say for example just using the tape out of a mixer for recording a live gig or something.
But like i said, nah, im not a huge fan of behringer, you can get better stuff for not much more money, but for starter gear, their allright.
airborne50caliber
11-01-2005, 12:20 PM
I love how we can have good long adult arguments with you, moseph :p.
But you're ultimately right, it's nothing new. I just like it for the same reason as Gaz. I don't favour or disfavour behringer, I only buy if its the product within my price range that does the things I want it to do better than the others. Except their transducers, I dislike them.
Ozduck
11-02-2005, 02:52 PM
hmmm thanks for the help guys :D
now that im looking at it all... maybe its better to buy a digital recorder that can do like 4 channels simultaneously rather than a equivently number audio interface?? seeing as the recorders usually have pre amps and ****?
when using a digital recorder do you still need a interface/goodsoundcard????????
airborne50caliber
11-02-2005, 04:26 PM
Yes, if you then want to transfer stuff onto your computer. Unless your standalone recorder has usb or firewire capability to transfer files directly to the computer
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