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forever_falling
10-23-2005, 04:53 PM
hi would a 22" and 20" bass drum sound different and is there anyway you could make them sound the same if they would sound different

as i have never played on a 20" bass drum i wouldnt know......

thanks alot

Elliot

Tim
10-23-2005, 05:22 PM
yea they would sound different. dont know why you wold want them to sound the same though it would defeat the purpose of having two bass drums.

darrell
10-23-2005, 08:15 PM
Why would you really want them sounding different? I thought two bass drums, for the most part, was a cosmetic thing. That, and if you are going really fast, the one beater won't be muffling the sound of the other beater (if you are using separate bass drums)

Tim
10-23-2005, 08:44 PM
if you wanted them to soudn the same then you could just buy a double pedal. it would be a waste of money to have 2 basses sounding the exact same.

Murd_666
10-23-2005, 09:27 PM
Who said anything about him wanting two bass drums?if you wanted them to soudn the same then you could just buy a double pedal. it would be a waste of money to have 2 basses sounding the exact same.If I wanted for about $200 less than a double pedal, I could have a whole new set, I'd have to buy hardware but I'm not complaining.

Double Bass Jim
10-23-2005, 11:06 PM
22" and 20" combo is GREAT, you can really get some nice stand out patterns wit that set-up.

Seafroggys
10-25-2005, 12:57 AM
Ginger baker used 22 and 20 I believe....and they were also 11" deep :cool:

Epiphender
10-25-2005, 01:03 AM
Uhh... I did not interpret this the same way at all. I assumed he was asking how the sounds compare of the two different sized drums, so that he could decide which to get. As for making them the same, I assumed he was wondering if it is possible to make one sound like the other rather than being stuck with the one sound all the time. I was kind of wondering this when I thought about getting a 24" kick, because then I'm stuck with that 24" kick sound forever as I would only have the one size.

But then I decided that's alright. :cool:

Double Bass Jim
10-25-2005, 01:10 AM
Good point ^ I did not think of that.

TTTSNB
10-25-2005, 11:46 AM
Ginger baker used 22 and 20 I believe....and they were also 11" deep :cool:
Hmm thats interesting. He always is great with the double bass. but 11" deep? Woah, Id think that those wouldn't have much projection or low end.

Seafroggys
10-25-2005, 06:44 PM
the source for that is from Lunch (he used to hang around here, mostly in R&M these days). If not 11" then definitally 14", as that was the universal depth for bass drums back then.

Double Bass Jim
10-25-2005, 09:51 PM
24"x14"s are KILLER. You don't need cannon length bass drums for great tones.

Aaron
10-26-2005, 06:15 AM
two 20x14= sex

The Chemist
10-26-2005, 07:06 AM
24"x14"s are KILLER. You don't need cannon length bass drums for great tones.
:lol: i find those cannon drums have no punch. all resonance. sort of duisgusting. like the sound of barkers drum. 20''x24'' .:lol:

Epiphender
10-26-2005, 05:59 PM
Whatever, I'm going for a real BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM.

24" x 18" :cool:

Double Bass Jim
10-26-2005, 11:33 PM
Yea :cool:

That'll be REAL nice.

ToadiesPhan
10-27-2005, 08:49 AM
ive always wanted a 26 inch. like my old friend bonham.

Epiphender
10-27-2005, 02:42 PM
Oh come on, that's a bit much. You'd practically have to tuck it in your socks!

forever_falling
10-27-2005, 03:40 PM
:lol: ^^

Futuro
10-27-2005, 03:43 PM
Whatever, I'm going for a real BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM.

24" x 18" Yeah 24x18s are awsome!
/Owns one.

forever_falling
10-27-2005, 03:49 PM
for everyone who is it a bit ocnfused i am asking this question because i have seen a kit that has 2 bass drums but one bass durm is 20" and the other is 22" and i am kinda intrested in the kit so was woundering weather the bass drums would sound idfferent or not, cos i am a fan of 2 bass drums

reasons why:

1. i like the feel of 2 bass drum better
2. it looks kool
3. i dont get along with DBP as well

playwithfire
10-27-2005, 05:26 PM
Of course they would sound different, they aren't the same diameter.

Drum Phil
10-27-2005, 05:34 PM
You can tune them to sound similar. But they will never sound the same

Epiphender
10-27-2005, 06:01 PM
Yeah 24x18s are awsome!
/Owns one.

Cool, what drum/woods and stuff? Got any recordings? :)

playwithfire
10-27-2005, 09:55 PM
A lot of bands use 18"x24" basses, Queens of the Stone Age is one well-known band who use DW 18"x24".

Futuro
10-27-2005, 10:30 PM
Cool, what drum/woods and stuff? Got any recordings? I dont have any recording Equipment set up on that set. Mine Is maple from conoway.

Epiphender
10-28-2005, 01:37 AM
Abe Cunningham has one too doesn't he? Or he did at some point. Anyone got specs on his kicks on different albums?

playwithfire
10-28-2005, 03:42 AM
I'm pretty sure he does, yeah.

Bone
10-28-2005, 04:10 AM
for everyone who is it a bit ocnfused i am asking this question because i have seen a kit that has 2 bass drums but one bass durm is 20" and the other is 22" and i am kinda intrested in the kit so was woundering weather the bass drums would sound idfferent or not, cos i am a fan of 2 bass drums

reasons why:

1. i like the feel of 2 bass drum better
2. it looks kool
3. i dont get along with DBP as well


Of course they would... if you wantted them too. You can always get them to sound the same if you wish. Seems a bit mute at that point though.

Guys like Danny Carey use a 22/20 setup live. The difference in the kicks gives a bit more depth to double bass work.


Unless you got a tech, don't gig much or at all. A double pedal is really the way to go. With stage space being at a premium, your back being underpaid and nobody other then you really caring... and literally only you at the end of the night making that extra trip JUST for a kick drum. Assuming you have a truck, cause you'll need a truck with a rig with 2 kicks. Etc.. it only goes on.

Double pedals are made so amazing now a days. If you can't play the same on a double pedal, having 2 singles is a minor and temporary difference and the underlying technique issues will surface soon after.

So besides the looks, extra money, extra hauling etc...

If you are ordering a kit, I say order one with a 22 and a 20. You'll effectively have several kits, with different kick drums for them.

Save the money, your back, stage room, setup/tear down time and the need for a Chevy 2500 class truck. Get a high end double pedal and blast away.

Double Bass Jim
10-28-2005, 04:16 AM
22/20 setup live. The difference in the kicks gives a bit more depth to double bass work.

Love that set-up too, REALLY brings out the patterns.

Epiphender
10-28-2005, 04:49 AM
YOUR MOM really brings out the patterns!! :evil: :evil:


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I always give ya a hard time but I couldn't find anything to say this time. :upset: