The all new "Official Sputnik Ideas and Suggestions"-thread [Archive]

Damrod

10-22-2005, 02:18 PM

You know the deal, post your ideas and suggestions for new functions and twists for Sputnik in this thread.

But please, keep it on topic as much as possible! Have a problem? Take it to the problems thread. Have something to say that has nothing to do with the Suggestions? Please don't post it here. I will enforce a stronger post kicking policy to keep this one clean

The list of suggestions so far:

Pending, not yet judged

Style buttons (italic, bold etc)
Band discography sorted by release date
Dedicated Sputnik forum (to support community feeling)
Force a comment when someone leaves a negative vote
Replacement for Top15 list (Maybe "reviewer of the Month" or "Review of the Month")
Search for user comments (like search posts by users in the forums)
Report bad comment link (take to Report bad user forum/email?)
Quote button for Sputnik

Undergoing changes/Under construction

Change to the genre system -> more/less genres

Implemented requested changes

copyright situation
edit comments
last comments of submitted reviews in User CP
increased review title length
new chart system
special indication of hyperlinks in reviews
parsing of style tags (italic, bold etc) in preview of review
Average user rating on main page (in addition to reviewers rating)
Release date on main page
Change to display of 'number bands'. Change from '1' to '1-9' or '#'
Mod: Approval of first reviews by mods
Mod: Delete all posts by user
'Last page' link also at the top of comments pages
Prohibit voting on your own reviews
Rename 'Alt Pop' to 'Soul'
Maybe a change to the "Useful Review" thing (different name?)
Include Sub-Genres in all time charts
Release date change (only year necessary)
Display of "Useful Review" voters for Mods

Dismissed requested changes

Different coloring for 5 star reviews
'Approval sign' for mods to underline good reviewers
Alternate views for Top15 list (sorted by review count/weighted rating)
Name of reviewer below album on main page (Too crowded)
Different solution for chosing "Similar Artists" and "Recommended Albums" (Obsolete with new system)
Genre for albums instead of artists (Too subjective)
Force to use 'review helpful' link before postinf of comments

Status Explanation
pending - no decision yet
under const. - it's being worked on
implemented - suggestion that has been integrated into the Sputnik site
dismissed - like it say, the idea has been dismissed

Shadows

10-22-2005, 02:28 PM

Storm In A Teacup

10-22-2005, 02:40 PM

I'm sure he meant review of the month.

Does anyone pay attention to the suggest featured albums thread anymore? There are four suggestions on there each one is good and I know you (Damrod or Med) said you do that maybe once a week, but it's been maybe over two weeks.

Damrod

10-22-2005, 02:47 PM

I think almost the entire pending list is a good idea. The "search for posts" really isn't necessary, but everything else could be really useful. We should have all of the tag options we do on mx. Bold, Italic, Underline, url, etc. including Quote. The "bad post" idea that takes a quoted post to the "report bad users" thread would be very useful too.

And did you mean top 15 replaced by review of the month, or reviewer of the month?

I changed that point a bit, either idea is a good thing IMO

I'm sure he meant review of the month.

Does anyone pay attention to the suggest featured albums thread anymore? There are four suggestions on there each one is good and I know you (Damrod or Med) said you do that maybe once a week, but it's been maybe over two weeks.

The FA cycle slowed down a bit. I plan on feature new ones tomorrow:)

something vague

10-22-2005, 02:56 PM

I would have to agree with ShadowsFallen. Almost all of the suggestions in the pending section would improve the sight, but some more than others. The "Reviewer of the Month" one seems like a good idea, and it may encourage people to try a lot harder on their reviews, as it seems some people post their reviews when they don't feel like writing anymore, saying that they would fix it at another date. Which rarely happens.

10-22-2005, 02:59 PM

It's all a matter of time... features will have to be rolled out slowly. So keep the ideas coming, but just because I've seen it doesn't mean I have time time right now to implement it.

Shadows

10-22-2005, 04:20 PM

Now that we have a community thread for sputnik people, maybe we should link to it from sputnik? That way we can encourage reviewers to use the forums as well as mingle.

Shadows

10-22-2005, 04:29 PM

You're right. I'm sorry, I am a fool. :(

Storm In A Teacup

10-23-2005, 03:05 PM

Now that we have a community thread for sputnik people, maybe we should link to it from sputnik? That way we can encourage reviewers to use the forums as well as mingle.

Uh? Where do I go to that? Or is this it?

Also, I want more smilie options, like what they have on www.Metaltabs.com/forum

Shadows

10-23-2005, 03:10 PM

Uh? Where do I go to that? Or is this it?
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=405747

Damrod

10-23-2005, 03:32 PM

Uh? Where do I go to that? Or is this it?

Also, I want more smilie options, like what they have on www.Metaltabs.com/forum

The right place to ask for that would be in the general Site forum for the forums, as Sputnik basically uses the smileys from the forums

pulseczar

10-23-2005, 09:44 PM

shouldnt Grunge be in the Alt/Indie section? i think it's the most well known form of "alternative"

DFelon204409

10-24-2005, 11:11 PM

When editing a comment, the comment character limit is smaller than the actual comment limit, which means that you can't edit comments above a certain amount of characters. I recommend we expand that number.

something vague

10-25-2005, 05:18 PM

I really can't stand the number ratings at the top of reviews. They are large and clumsy, and fairly redundant when you have to remind people what the rating means on the rating scale. Really, I think it would be much nicer to have the stars back.

Shadows

10-25-2005, 05:40 PM

The numbers are better than stars. The stars were very large and overdone, while the numbers look neater and have the description underneath it.

something vague

10-25-2005, 05:44 PM

Then have the stars smaller and without that crappy white outline. Problem solved.

Shadows

10-25-2005, 05:44 PM

That wouldn't really help.

Storm In A Teacup

10-25-2005, 08:07 PM

I know it's under pending, but we really need a quote button for Sputnik so there isn't as much spam for it. I'm afraid it's about to happen again in the newest Story of the Year review for their new album.

IsItLuck?

10-26-2005, 07:26 PM

It looks like there are some good ideas buzzing, it's just a matter of time :)

Neoteric

10-27-2005, 10:23 AM

Comments like "Good review" or "Good album" should be done away with. It is just spam really and lots of people do it. If there is already a rule on it then it needs to be tighter.

Storm In A Teacup

10-27-2005, 12:40 PM

Comments like "Good review" or "Good album" should be done away with. It is just spam really and lots of people do it. If there is already a rule on it then it needs to be tighter.

That's not really spam, but maybe when people do that they should vote for it.

Jom

10-27-2005, 12:49 PM

That's not really spam, but maybe when people do that they should vote for it.

Agreed, to some degree.

If I read a review but don't have a stinkin' clue as to who the hell the band is or if I don't normally listen to that genre, what am I supposed to say? Start talking about bands I like? When people say "Good review," I'm glad they write that because at least I know they read it. I'm not going to be up in arms about it.

By enforcing a "Don't tell the reviewer he did a good job" rule, you're encouraging spam instead of discouraging it.

something vague

10-27-2005, 02:12 PM

Good post, Jom. :thumb::thumb::thumb:

Britney Diva

10-27-2005, 02:27 PM

Good post, Jom. :thumb::thumb::thumb:
Don't encourage spam :)

1) Has any decision been made on whether there'll be a review of the month?

2) I'm not bothered about the submit review page, but maybe there should be some editing tools in the comment box?

Damrod

10-27-2005, 02:34 PM

1) No, so far there has been no decision yet on reviewer of the month

2) As we have editing, you mean quick tools like here on the forums for edit on Sputnik?

Britney Diva

10-27-2005, 02:42 PM

Yes, like the 'B' button to bold text and stuff.

morrissey

10-27-2005, 04:28 PM

Yeah, I think the best/most important addition would be a quote button. Whether the button in their post like on MX or just a quote tag, I would appreciate having either one.

edit: I mean most important in terms of having editing buttons, not in the whole scheme of things.

Killtacular

10-27-2005, 06:41 PM

Html doesn't work here on the forums, so I'd assume the same for Sputnik.

morrissey

10-27-2005, 06:43 PM

Yeah I just tried it, the code doesn't show up but it doesn't work either. ie:

<b>testing</b>

becomes

testing

morrissey

10-27-2005, 07:08 PM

^^ it might work in Reviews but it doesn't seem to work in comments.

edit: yeah it's not essential but if it's easy to implement it certainly wouldn't hurt.

Shadows

10-29-2005, 12:09 AM

HTML has been working for me everywhere. :confused:

Killtacular

10-29-2005, 12:35 AM

You sure you're not thinking of vBcode?

Shadows

10-29-2005, 12:37 AM

You're right, I just thought of that.

Neoteric

10-29-2005, 01:08 PM

Agreed, to some degree.

If I read a review but don't have a stinkin' clue as to who the hell the band is or if I don't normally listen to that genre, what am I supposed to say? Start talking about bands I like? When people say "Good review," I'm glad they write that because at least I know they read it. I'm not going to be up in arms about it.

By enforcing a "Don't tell the reviewer he did a good job" rule, you're encouraging spam instead of discouraging it.
No, I mean a post consisting of just "Good review" or "Good album". What would you like to hear? "Good review" or "Good review, I really like the detail you put into this one". "Good review" is spam to me but the second one is constructive which is good to me.

DFelon204409

10-31-2005, 02:18 PM

Shadows

10-31-2005, 06:15 PM

Can vBulletin code be enabled on the main pages where the first few lines of newest reviews are displayed? It looks stupid to have a sample of the review shown but the tags aren't read correctly.

Damrod

10-31-2005, 09:35 PM

For some reason I can't mod sputnik anymore, which is unfortunate considering I'm the only person who can upkeep certain niche genres that we have and may have in the future. Also, I fix typos and stuff when I see them, and I consistently evaluate new reviewers.

Has to do with the recent vBulletin upgrade. mx mentioned this might occur. Like Med said, just let us know and we'll do what has to be done :)

DFelon204409

10-31-2005, 09:48 PM

Ya, I don't have access so put that on the list.

Killtacular

10-31-2005, 09:49 PM

Seems like I remember code working on the main page before the upgrade.

Shadows

10-31-2005, 09:51 PM

Seems like I remember code working on the main page before the upgrade.
As I remember, code never worked on the main page. It would be nice if it did though.

pulseczar

10-31-2005, 10:04 PM

It did work at one point, shortly before the upgrade

jimay333

11-01-2005, 03:54 PM

just a little bug that needs to be fixed is when you click on the link that says the album charts for all time, in sub-groups (for example "Metalcore"), there is an error

Shadows

11-01-2005, 03:55 PM

I've noticed that for a while. It should be fixed.

Dancin' Man

11-02-2005, 10:27 PM

Also, the album lenght maximum is still too short. I now have two reviews with album titles over the maximum. Emperor - Prometheus: The Discipline of Fire & Demise and The End - Transfer Trachea Reverberations From Point: False Omnicient
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=2250 http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=4164

Just adding ... at the end is not sufficient. For an album review website, we should be able to fit the whole title.

And again, Grindcore please.

11-03-2005, 12:08 AM

The quote button is easier said then done. It's really hard coding.

pulseczar

11-03-2005, 12:11 AM

both Broken Social Scene and Foo Fighters do not show up listed in the alphabetical indexes, both have reviews

Dancin' Man

11-03-2005, 11:26 AM

I keep getting this fatal error message. I've had it on 3 or 4 machines today. I'll hope it is just MX troubleshooting some coding.

Jom

11-03-2005, 01:36 PM

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: strip_tages() in /var/www/html/sputnik/comments.php on line 45

Myself, along with Iai and Unstable Mind (I think), can't post comments. Is Jeremy working on something, or are we just screwed?

Shadows

11-03-2005, 03:39 PM

It's happening to me now too. :(

Arrakakaka

11-03-2005, 04:04 PM

pulseczar

11-03-2005, 04:11 PM

'tis working for me again

Shadows

11-03-2005, 04:16 PM

It works for me now too.

Shadows

11-03-2005, 07:31 PM

Are reviews of a band's DVD allowed?

Jom

11-03-2005, 07:46 PM

Are reviews of a band's DVD allowed?

I've only done three on the site... :p

Shadows

11-03-2005, 07:50 PM

I've only done three on the site... :p
Why do you have to go out of your way to make me feel stupid? :( I just asked the question, I didn't know. Please don't jump all over me for it. :upset:

:p In this case, I've got DIBS on the new Shadows Fall DVD when it comes out on the 15th.

Jom

11-03-2005, 08:16 PM

Why do you have to go out of your way to make me feel stupid? :( I just asked the question, I didn't know. Please don't jump all over me for it. :upset:

:p In this case, I've got DIBS on the new Shadows Fall DVD when it comes out on the 15th.

Because you've commented in them before, that's why... haha.

Congratulations, that was very good. It was out of my genre plus I've never seen it (or heard anything by the band, for that matter) but your review was nice and thorough.

I didn't even know DVDs were allowed...if that's the case than I can have a Shadows Fall DVD review up quite soon.

:eek:

Shadows

11-03-2005, 08:18 PM

Because you've commented in them before, that's why... haha.
Me has?? :confused: Which one(s)?

/me searches and boinks

*old comment*
:eek:
Well hot damn Jom, I sure do (heart) you. :) Which review was this from?

EDIT: I'm starting to think it may be useful to have a "Grind" subgenre.

DFelon204409

11-05-2005, 10:45 AM

Did something weird happen with the rating system? All of a sudden, withou anybody changing my rank, except positively for like a week and half, my weighted rank dropped as did my site rank. Is that because of a reworking of the weighting system?

Britney Diva

11-05-2005, 12:06 PM

My ranks are all the same.

Storm In A Teacup

11-05-2005, 01:00 PM

I went to Sputnik and the featured albums are on there twice. It's probably a glitch from the changes MX made and will sort itslelf out.

Arrakakaka

11-06-2005, 12:29 PM

Hey guys. Remember when you said you deleted doom metal because there weren't enough bands?

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/subgenre.php?genreid=52&start=0

Then why is street punk still up? It has 5 albums. Doom had way more. I'm just saying, doesn't it look kind of unfair?

Jom

11-06-2005, 12:48 PM

If it isn't prevalent already, once you metalheads are given an inch, you'll ask for a mile. Fairness doesn't seem to be the issue here.

Storm In A Teacup

11-06-2005, 01:08 PM

What about a screamo/emo genre? I can come up with at least 5-10 bands that fit in it and I'm sure there are many more I can't think of.

Jom

11-06-2005, 01:24 PM

What about a screamo/emo genre? I can come up with at least 5-10 bands that fit in it and I'm sure there are many more I can't think of.

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/subgenre.php?genreid=16&subid=3

Storm In A Teacup

11-06-2005, 01:56 PM

When the hell did that happen? Or has it always been here and I'm just stupid.

pulseczar

11-06-2005, 02:00 PM

It's alwas been there, silly goose

Jom

11-06-2005, 02:14 PM

Or has it always been here and I'm just stupid.

Well, let's not jump to conclusions... :p

tjrd

11-06-2005, 09:22 PM

Discovered some bugs (don't know if they've been mentioned yet):
- When you edit your review, at least one \ appears before any ' in the tracklisting (It\\'s on).
- Although it says on the changes thread that this is fixed, my rating was changed from 2.5 to 2.0 when I submitted it.
- The new text editor on the submit page either does not work, or editing the review (I edited to change the 2.0 back to 2.5) undoes it.

ocelot-05

11-06-2005, 11:35 PM

mx, you should consider this. Whenever you click on a recent comment, I think it should take you to the last page of comments on that review, so you don't have to do it yourself. It will make things faster and easier, and there would be no cost. How about it?

Shadows

11-06-2005, 11:43 PM

I agree, it's frustrating to be taken back to the first page of comments whenever you post or edit.

I apologize mods, I wrote about 10 band descriptions tonight. :(

Dancin' Man

11-07-2005, 01:16 PM

I still think Grind is needed. Also, album title length is too short still.

NEDM

11-08-2005, 04:20 PM

pulseczar

11-08-2005, 04:36 PM

^ that would just divide up the sputnik community for overall, let's face it, stupid reasons

NEDM

11-08-2005, 05:25 PM

True, but I just feel that it would stop all the fighting. Mainly because only a few people on the site get into crap with each other. For example, that American Idiot thread. IamHoppus and all those others got involved in a stupid argument. People hold grudges, you can't stop that.

Storm In A Teacup

11-08-2005, 05:27 PM

I hold no grudge.

pulseczar

11-08-2005, 05:31 PM

but those people never went and negged eachother on reviews, which is the actual problem, arguments can be stopped, if they go too far, a temp. banning is dished out and the comments deleted. If people hold grudges like that, it's eventually gonna be brought up, I personally know a lot of people do not like certain members on sputnik, but don't make a big deal out of it. And if this does go through, the blocking should be approved by a mod first, so someone just doesn't do it because of some stupid grudge or because theyre afraid of criticism

ocelot-05

11-08-2005, 10:28 PM

Hopefully whenever Cravinov13 returns from his ban he won't pick so many fights. It's funny. He'll call someone an idiot in one of his own reviews, to prove that he is "right." He's actually a decent reviewer, he just has some superiority issues. I'm looking forward to his return, and hopefully he can contribute without adding to the thread wars we're trying to cut down on.:cool:

DFelon204409

11-08-2005, 10:49 PM

I was sitting in math class and I had a great idea on how to prevent arguments on Sputnik.

If you're a member on the site, you should be able to go to other peoples profiles, and block them from commenting on your reviews because come on, we all have enemies on the site.

If we eliminate other user's urges to yell at someone for the hell of it by the click of a button, then you eliminate the problems.

So if I post legitimate comments that completely undermine, say, a IKSSE:3 review, the reviewer should be able to block my commentary even if it raises critical issues about the review and album?

Oh...wait.

ocelot-05

11-08-2005, 11:46 PM

There's something wrong with the tracklistings. All the time, apostrophe's are changed into a string of slashies like this

Godhead'//////////s Lament

mx, please see if this can be fixed. I have to keep going back to change this all the time.

Britney Diva

11-09-2005, 05:27 AM

Every time you edit a review, it adds in slashes before the apostraphe, starting with one and increasing by two with each edit. It's been brought up a few times before, but it doesn't seem to be a priority. It's not particularly difficult to rectify, so I don't worry about it.

Shadows

11-09-2005, 06:34 AM

Just edit it again and delete the slashes. It's not too difficult.

NEDM

11-09-2005, 12:50 PM

So if I post legitimate comments that completely undermine, say, a IKSSE:3 review, the reviewer should be able to block my commentary even if it raises critical issues about the review and album?

Oh...wait.

Sorry DFelon. I just didnt look at all the angles of this as much as I should of :upset:. I won't bring this any further as it would just lead to another flame war.

Shadows

11-09-2005, 03:17 PM

Woah, how do these weighted ratings work? Mine suddenly dropped 5.5 overnight for no apparent reason.

Do mods manually change user rankings? I'm saying saying it matters that much, but mine just changed drastically and I'm confused as to why.

The Sludge

11-11-2005, 11:57 PM

Shouldn't there be a link for the rankings? It would make it much easier to see whats going on. As a newcommer to this site it would be a helpful tool to have access to the top reviewers and read their reviews.

Well I'm not sure whats going on. But I seen a few new reviews from new people, and I was wondering if that problem was fixed? Because I'm still having trouble posting anything on Sputnik.

Jom

11-12-2005, 12:28 AM

Shouldn't there be a link for the rankings?

Sputnikmusic no longer uses an official ranking system, really. Yes, one's ranking is located in his or her profile, but it's been removed from the public eye on the site for a reason.

innerdark

11-12-2005, 01:36 PM

i think (if it can be done) there should be a button that lets you send a screenshot of comments e.t.c that way people who have done something don't have a chance to escape by editing out a comment

Storm In A Teacup

11-12-2005, 02:43 PM

Sputnikmusic no longer uses an official ranking system, really. Yes, one's ranking is located in his or her profile, but it's been removed from the public eye on the site for a reason.

What are you talking about? I can click on a persons account and see their ranking.

innerdark

11-12-2005, 02:50 PM

What are you talking about? I can click on a persons account and see their ranking.

he means there isn't an actual list, you can see a persons rating but you can't look at all of the ratings at once

Jom

11-12-2005, 02:56 PM

What are you talking about? I can click on a persons account and see their ranking.

Sputnikmusic no longer uses an official ranking system, really. Yes, one's ranking is located in his or her profile, but it's been removed from the public eye on the site for a reason.

Ahem. Do you not read sentences all the way through, or what?

Good job, IAmHoppus :)

Storm In A Teacup

11-12-2005, 03:06 PM

Ahem. Do you not read sentences all the way through, or what?

Good job, IAmHoppus :)

I just have trouble comprehending sentences at time, I have some sort of version of Dyslexia or however it's spelled. So does my dad and brother.

Neoteric

11-12-2005, 05:38 PM

i think (if it can be done) there should be a button that lets you send a screenshot of comments e.t.c that way people who have done something don't have a chance to escape by editing out a comment
You can do that pressing printscreen and ctrl+v into paint.

innerdark

11-12-2005, 05:49 PM

You can do that pressing printscreen and ctrl+v into paint.

stupid me

Shadows

11-13-2005, 05:58 PM

Have we ever considered adding more technical info on the permanent review layout? For example, in the box where the release date and tracklisting are, perhaps add the album length and the label it was released on?

Shadows

11-13-2005, 06:13 PM

One problem with that. Albums are sometimes distributed on different labels in different countries. It would be hard to have one standard, as people would put down different labels depending on where they live. Full album length is also something that people might not know, especially if they have the album downloaded. Personally I'd say that if people want to give information like labels/album length, they can do it in the review, but otherwise we leave it as it is.
Good point. I think the length might also be difficult if the album comes in various forms with bouns tracks and other things.

/goes back to drawing board

Tom Violence

11-13-2005, 07:35 PM

I think the whole inclusion of tracklists is unecessary.

Shadows

11-13-2005, 08:14 PM

Tracklisting is essential information. Reviewers adding it themselves in addition to the automatic one is stupid, but every review should have a tracklist.

Tom Violence

11-13-2005, 08:34 PM

Tracklisting is essential information.

How is it essential information in the least bit? One would assume that the reviewer would at least recognize half of the songs on the album, and write of the album in a descriptive enough manner to give the reviewer a good idea of what the album may sound like. So why would they have to refer to the track list for some unknown reason? The box containing the cover (which is important) and tracklisting breaks off the paragraphs and cosntricts them, making quite a few reviews look warped, interrupting the flow and overall accessability of the review. If the tracklisting were to be there, it should either be manually added at the bottom of the review or set in as a distinct, automatic function where the user would click a link on the album name for tracklisting, time, and specific members and instruments on certain songs.

My two pennies.

Shadows

11-13-2005, 08:51 PM

There are plenty of reviewers who don't refer to the tracklist in a review. Take me, for example. I sometimes discuss every song in a review, but I occasionally talk about less then half. Reviews are supposed to be informative, and the list of songs on the album are a fundamental part of that. Without a tracklist, people may become completely lost if they don't have the album. It also my be hard to follow if you talk about a few tracks and no others. The restricting of paragraphs is not that big of a deal. It's a page with text, not a work of art. It isn't hard to fix the look of the review around the box, and those that don't may need to rethink just how much effort they put into their reivews. Clicking a link for trackilisting seems uneeded. It should be put right in the review. Band members and descriptions are also put on the band's description page.

ocelot-05

11-13-2005, 10:26 PM

To completely change the subject, I have a great idea. I realized the other day that the all-time user charts are based on views. Now, this makes sense for the week-charts, so users can see what we've been busy with. However, I think there should be some kind of prestige associated with the all-time album charts, therefore the charts should be based upon user ratings. After all, American Idiot by Green Day is up there, and most of us don't like it at all. This would make more sense, and it would also be cool to see a list representing the majority of spunik users' taste in albums. Who's with me on this one?

Britney Diva

11-14-2005, 08:12 PM

Could we get a who's online list at the bottom, like on the forums? It's not vital, but I like seeing who's here.

Shadows

11-14-2005, 11:11 PM

Similar to Plath, I was wondering of the little box that displays whether or not a user is logged on can carry over to sputnik.

EDIT: I've been wondering about this for a while. Does Dam-mod and Mederator really think it's necessary to have all band info editing approved before it goes in? I see the point of it, but editing a band really isn't different than letting anybody submit a review. It seems excessive to wait a day for a mod to approve a correction on a spelling error on a band's name.

DesolationRow

11-15-2005, 06:02 PM

I really dig that user box idea to see who's viewing Sputnik. It'd really help. But can we seriously get that 'force a comment for neg. voters' thing rolling? I would really like to know why people neg. so much and never say why.....

ocelot-05

11-16-2005, 12:16 AM

No one said anything about my great idea...:upset:

pulseczar

11-16-2005, 12:20 AM

...

yeah seeing who's online would be neat, but you can see if someone's online by going to their musicianforum account (though more labouring and you wont be able to find everyone.)

Storm In A Teacup

11-16-2005, 06:05 PM

question...When the new year rolls in how will peoples reviews be ordered in their profile? Will it start showing the year? I hope everyone understands my question.

Shadows

11-16-2005, 06:14 PM

I didn't know it was going to be different than it was now. :confused:

Storm In A Teacup

11-16-2005, 06:55 PM

I'm saying how will the order go.
Will it be like this-

1-16-Audioslave-Out of Exile
1-07-Shadows Fall-What Drives the Weak
12-06-Cream-Fresh Cream
9-24-Weezer-The Blue Album
4-12-Green Day-Dookie
1-13-QOTSA-Songs for the Deaf
1-06-Thrice-Vheisuu
or this
12-06-Cream-Fresh Cream
9-24-Weezer-The Blue Album
4-12-Green Day-Dookie
1-16-Audioslave-Out of Exile
1-13-QOTSA-Songs for the Deaf
1-07-Shadows Fall-What Drives the Weak
1-06-Thrice-Vheisuu
I'm asking if it'll recognize the year it's turned in so the order won't get messed up. Should I just shutup?

Jom

11-16-2005, 06:56 PM

I can't imagine why they'd not go in any order other than from most recent down, as they are now.

DesolationRow

11-16-2005, 10:32 PM

Did the text change on the site? The letters are way too small, and really hard to read. Bring back the Arial, please.

Shadows

11-17-2005, 02:42 PM

That's a browser setting. The text is the same as usual.

Britney Diva

11-18-2005, 07:16 AM

A pre-emptive review clearance here. I'll be submitting a review of the new System of a Down tonight, hopefully, or perhaps tomorrow. I've cleared it with Meddie already, but I just want to notify Damrod in case he gets scared and deletes it :)

Damrod

11-18-2005, 07:50 AM

Britney Diva

11-18-2005, 08:27 AM

It's great isn't it? I love feeling superior to people for 3-4 days :)

p.s. thanks :cool:

Shadows

11-18-2005, 04:57 PM

Quick question - has mx removed the character limit on album titles? I'm going to write another review soon, and the title is really long. :(

Storm In A Teacup

11-18-2005, 05:04 PM

I don't think he has. :-/

Edit: I can't get to the archives. : (

Britney Diva

11-20-2005, 07:03 PM

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=4360&genreid=3&page=1#lastpost

Needs to be merged with the other Sing The Sorrow review.

Storm In A Teacup

11-21-2005, 09:32 AM

Any word on there being a link going from the profiles here over to Sputnik?

I think I've mentioned this already, dunno.

Jom

11-21-2005, 09:38 AM

Any word on there being a link going from the profiles here over to Sputnik?

I think I've mentioned this already, dunno.

You click on their username, and then click on "See Musicianforums.com profile."

If you're asking for a different user profile for Sputnikmusic users, that's just a bit, well, ambiguous, really.

EDIT: I have a feeling that I misread your question, but that's because I didn't understand it to begin with.

Storm In A Teacup

11-21-2005, 09:46 AM

No, if I clicked on your username here, I'd like a link to your Sputnik profile is what I'm saying.

Jom

11-21-2005, 09:47 AM

No, if I clicked on your username here, I'd like a link to your Sputnik profile is what I'm saying.

But... why?

Sputnikmusic and MX are on the same server. Plus, is it really that tedious to click over to Sputnikmusic and find a profile that way?

Storm In A Teacup

11-21-2005, 09:54 AM

just forget it, it's a stupid idea

pulseczar

11-21-2005, 12:29 PM

Sputnik is supposed to be a review site, not a social place like the forums, I don't see the point of the who is online thang.

Shadows

11-23-2005, 11:05 PM

Okay; here's a crazy idea I had regarding neg-repping reviews, let me know what y'all think of it.

On mx tabs we have a corrections feature. You can submit corrections and then pull up a seperate window viewing what people said. I thought that since we've been looking for a way to force people to explain why when they vote no, why not do somwthing vaguely similar? Whenever someone votes, they would then have to write a small comment explaining why they chose that, whether negative or positive. We could then make a seperate page (in a similar layout to the user ratings of an album) that the reviewer could check to see what people thought of the review itself. It would all be anonymous.

That might not have been the best description, but in my mind it seems like a pretty good idea. Feel free to shoot me down if you disagree.

masada

11-23-2005, 11:53 PM

How about we stop giving a **** about rankings.

Shadows

11-24-2005, 12:00 AM

This has nothing to do with rankings.

masada

11-24-2005, 12:16 AM

Neg-repping doesn't?

Shadows

11-24-2005, 12:18 AM

Neg-repping does, but that's not what I'm talking about. The issue of forcing people to comment on why they neg-repped has been deliberated on for quite some time and I thought I might throw an idea out there for it.

It isn't the rating that hurts, it's just extremely annoying and frustrating to be neg-repped by an unknown user for no apparent reason.

Storm In A Teacup

11-24-2005, 04:27 PM

Over in dear old Sputnikland since there is a thing that shows a persons favorite reviewers on their user cp, why not have a link as well that shows who's list that person is on as well?

Shadows

11-24-2005, 09:54 PM

It would be anonymous, except for mods of course. I think that would be a pretty good way of dealing with things if we're serious about forcing a comment with a neg-vote.

Britney Diva

11-25-2005, 01:47 PM

I don't know if this has been reported, but Bob Dylan has disappeared, as evidenced by Humor99's profile (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/profile.php?memberid=67078)

Storm In A Teacup

11-25-2005, 05:13 PM

Agh! Chevelle is not nu-metal! Please change that, please to anything other than that genre.

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands.php?bandid=228

Shadows

11-25-2005, 05:14 PM

Let it go, they're nu metal.

Sideshow Bob

12-01-2005, 11:12 PM

This appears to be the best thread to ask a question in about one of my reviews:

Back before Sputnik was around, I wrote reviews for the old review forum. For some reason, a few of my reviews were added to the Sputnik site (during the switch, maybe)? However, looking back through them, they aren't that good. Is there a way to delete them from Sputnik? Here are the links to them:

Kid A (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=218)
Revolver (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=696)
Document (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=279)
Tommy (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=414)

I tried to fix them up, but the edit feature would not work for them. Also, there are better reviews of those albums up, as well, so there is no need for mine.

Also, another album of mine was added at launch, the review of the Radiohead Go to Sleep EP. In its form at the time, it was inadequate and poorly written, and I did not post it up to Sputnik of my own accord. Thus, I received very poor ratings on it. However, I recently completely redid the review in a format that I think is much more informative and more stylistically adapted for the site. I was wondering if the votes on it could be reset, as it is essentially a brand new review now. I understand if you cannot do this, but I would greatly appreciate any help you guys could give me.

Go to Sleep (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?reviewid=1228)

Thanks for taking the time to read my request.

morrissey

12-02-2005, 04:47 AM

one day someone should right a review 'guide' for beginning reviews. I would sure like it atleast.

http://www.musicianforums.com/sputnik/guidelines.php

This was ridiculously difficult to find and I spent like 10 minutes searching through mx to find it. But it's a basic guide on how to write a review.

Can anyone find easy access to that link? Am I just an idiot?

Nope, I think it got removed when Mx changed the sputnik style. I suggest that you suggest that he sticks it back in next to feedback/ advertise / faq.

So I guess this is me suggesting such. :) At least linking to it in the FAQ/Help sticky in this subforum for now, since Med or Dam can do that (of course if either of you can visibly link to it on sputnik that would be great).

morrissey

12-02-2005, 04:53 AM

Oh this is nice

Well here are a couple of things that I would like to see on this site and that is more Indie band reviews

Here are a couple of bands that I have try'd to look up on your site but they are not on there well because they are new and they are just starting out but they have good record lables

I didnt see these bands listend bellow:

gahhhh links
Trust me these bands are not your average local crap playing church bands that play only for chessy venue's
I'll bet this is just an advertisment (I had to edit your links out, sorry), but if you want reviews... write them. :)

Sideshow Bob

12-02-2005, 08:36 PM

Thanks, med. I'll get to it soon.

EDIT: I just tried resubmitting the review, and it won't let me because I've already submitted one. I have the new one saved, so you could delete the old one, and I'll resubmit it when the old one's down. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Storm In A Teacup

12-02-2005, 10:18 PM

You can't be doing this, it's advertising. These comments need to be deleted. I assume this post of mine will be deleted as well. Good job Sputnik mod squad. :thumb:

morrissey

12-02-2005, 10:21 PM

Yes I deleted the original post for the same reason.

Sideshow Bob

12-03-2005, 12:10 AM

You can't be doing this, it's advertising. These comments need to be deleted. I assume this post of mine will be deleted as well. Good job Sputnik mod squad. :thumb:

Wait--Was I considered to be advertising? I was just asking for help deleting/fixing up my really old reviews that got put up when the change to Sputnik was made. Sorry if I did it wrong.

Jom

12-03-2005, 12:15 AM

Wait--Was I considered to be advertising? I was just asking for help deleting/fixing up my really old reviews that got put up when the change to Sputnik was made. Sorry if I did it wrong.

Nah dude, you're cool - someone was advertising in between your posts and Kripes'. They were deleted.

morrissey

12-03-2005, 12:15 AM

Wait--Was I considered to be advertising? I was just asking for help deleting/fixing up my really old reviews that got put up when the change to Sputnik was made. Sorry if I did it wrong.
Nah he was referring to the posts above him (which ended up being deleted).

Sideshow Bob

12-03-2005, 01:03 AM

Okay...scary moment there.

Storm In A Teacup

12-04-2005, 07:46 PM

On how albums are rated I think that on 3 out of 5 it should be changed from good to decent.

Jom

12-04-2005, 07:55 PM

On how albums are rated I think that on 3 out of 5 it should be changed from good to decent.

Oh my God, I just snorted the Mountain Dew I was drinking reading this, and it's burning my nostrils and coming out of my nose. Hysterical.

The adjectives are unnegotiable, as Damrod and Med will tell you. Remember when people were up in arms about the numbers and stars? Yeah, same thing applies.

Storm In A Teacup

12-04-2005, 08:13 PM

I don't really remember sorry.

It just seems a little akward to me going from average to good to great to excellent.

Jom

12-04-2005, 08:16 PM

It just seems a little akward to me going from average to good to great to excellent.

Wait. Which option are you suggesting?

Average -> Decent -> Great -> Excellent - > Superb -> Classic

Average -> Decent -> Good -> Great -> Excellent -> Classic

Average -> Decent -> Good -> Great -> Superb -> Classic

Sorry, but what we have now isn't going to change; again, it's unnegotiable.

Storm In A Teacup

12-04-2005, 08:49 PM

Most likely the third choice.

Ninja Edit: Don't you think that Great and Excellent are a little to close to each other?

Shadows

12-04-2005, 08:57 PM

No.

I think "Classic" isn't really a good word though. Many classic albums aren't worth a 5, but many albums that are worth a 5 aren't classics.

DFelon204409

12-04-2005, 09:05 PM

We need a post-hardcore section. I can't stress this enough. Both The Fall of Troy and Thrice are in the progressive genre and I'm pretty sure alexisonfire is still in metalcore, and Trophy Scars are in hardcore. This is chaos!

Jawaharal

12-05-2005, 12:39 PM

We need a grind genre too. Pete has written enough reviews for the genre and he is probably going to write much more.

DFelon204409

12-05-2005, 02:58 PM

True but post-hardcore is more urgent I believe. Having grind scattered between hardcore and death metal isn't far from the truth (especially the historical definition of grind) whereas scattering post-hardcore across progressive, hardcore, and metalcore just is wack.

Damrod

12-05-2005, 03:03 PM

I'm not really informed about the candidates for Grind, but spontaniously a lot of candidates for Post-Hardcore come to my mind. And I would appreciate it as well, as I grew quite fond of the genre...

I'm not sure if mx is really keen on adding more genres at the moment. Plus, I think I remember he is in a lot of work regarding university. I'll propose it to him though

EDIT: Nick, mind helping us put up a complete list of the bands that would go into a potential Post-HC section? cheeto and others can maybe put a list of Grind bands on Sputnik together. A comprehensive list might convince mx more. Have a look at the Site forum, I'll create a new thread for this purpose

DFelon204409

12-05-2005, 03:09 PM

I think it's fine to wait a few weeks until what should be Christmas break for a lot of people where we should probably try to overhaul the site, users and mods alike. Give mx a full detailed report of stuff that should be attended to and see what he can get to over break. That is if he even wants to spend his break suping up the site.

Neoteric

12-05-2005, 03:10 PM

Grind seems like an acceptable but couldn't post-hardcore go into hardcore?

Shadows

12-05-2005, 03:14 PM

EDIT: Nick, mind helping us put up a complete list of the bands that would go into a potential Post-HC section? cheeto and others can maybe put a list of Grind bands on Sputnik together. A comprehensive list might convince mx more. Have a look at the Site forum, I'll create a new thread for this purpose
I could list grind bands, as could Dancin' Man.

DFelon204409

12-05-2005, 03:30 PM

Most people here could figure the difference between grind bands and non-grind bands. The real question is can people name a grind band that existed in the 80s that isn't Napalm Death? Probably not.

And yes, Damrod, I'll do that eventually. Like I said I'm mad busy right now.

Shadows

12-05-2005, 03:35 PM

I know the metallish grind bands, but sputnik has very few of those. Most of our grind reviews are for -core bands, which DM would know much better then I would.

Britney Diva

12-05-2005, 07:01 PM

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/subgenre.php?genreid=47&subid=2

The two Nickelback albums in the charts show up without the band's name, though 'Nickelback' appears on the Top 15 bands.

Shadows

12-07-2005, 03:01 PM

Just to clearify - what's the policy on reviewing demos here?

Jawaharal

12-07-2005, 03:21 PM

Just to clearify - what's the policy on reviewing demos here?
I'm sure you could if they're not redone on an album.

Neoteric

12-11-2005, 10:28 AM

Jom

12-11-2005, 10:39 AM

ATTN: Cathedral

Just got your message.

http://www.rateyourmusic.com/ or http://www.recordnerd.com/ are what I'd suggest.

I use RN because I don't care for the bells and whistles that comes with RYM, but if that's the kind of stuff that floats your boat, then by all means, set sail.

Britney Diva

12-11-2005, 12:42 PM

I have a request, get rid of the Other Members Liked: bit in the reviews because:

1) They seem pretty random and pointless

and

2) Overall reviews look shorter with the bigger box (look at Superpeer's reviews)
I wish they'd just let the reviewer pick similar albums like, I think, they had when I started.

Storm In A Teacup

12-11-2005, 01:30 PM

Shadows

12-11-2005, 02:10 PM

I wish they'd just let the reviewer pick similar albums like, I think, they had when I started.
I like this idea, but I also forsee some problems. I giess I'm indifferent in this.

Jom

12-11-2005, 02:53 PM

Just get rid of it altogether.

Neoteric

12-12-2005, 10:38 AM

Jom

12-12-2005, 10:53 AM

Yep, you messaged me at 06:08 my time, and there's no way in Hell I'm going to be up that early :)

Neoteric

12-12-2005, 11:06 AM

Yep, you messaged me at 06:08 my time, and there's no way in Hell I'm going to be up that early :)
Darn timezones, you should learn to sign out =/

innerdark

12-18-2005, 02:11 PM

my idea is to have keywords which force a vote on the album.

or, to somehow disable the comments for people who do not vote

it's just to take the voting idea further

Storm In A Teacup

12-18-2005, 02:23 PM

my idea is to have keywords which force a vote on the album.

or, to somehow disable the comments for people who do not vote

it's just to take the voting idea further

Hoppus everyone. :-/

innerdark

12-18-2005, 02:27 PM

what??

pulseczar

12-18-2005, 02:44 PM

You're a silly one, Hoppity Bunny.

Storm In A Teacup

12-18-2005, 02:48 PM

You're a silly one, Hoppity Bunny.

/prides self on starting that :smoke:

masada

12-18-2005, 03:19 PM

That is a terrible idea.

And people would figure a way around it anyway. We always do.

innerdark

12-18-2005, 03:22 PM

it was still a valid idea :upset:

innerdark

12-19-2005, 12:39 PM

not sure if it's possible but i think an option to delete your own reviews would be good, instead of having to ask medrod to do it

Storm In A Teacup

12-19-2005, 12:42 PM

I second that. ^

Jom

12-19-2005, 12:57 PM

Edit your reviews.

innerdark

12-19-2005, 01:41 PM

Edit your reviews.

the reason for this is so that if you've wrote one that really sucked like *cough* my first franz review *cough* then instead of getting told it'll be deleted by med or damrod, you can D.I.Y.

example.

reviewer X writes a really bad review, and wants to delete it. Medrod isn't on, or hasn't seenit, it falls off the front page and soon, it's so far down it isn't seen, reviewer x then has to bump his review for Medrod to see it. repeat,

now, if reviewer X had the power to delete his review, he could do it, without having to ask Med or Damrod.

now do you see why i think it's a good idea?
_________________________________

2 more ideas, just repeating them as it will get seen quicker

force comment on a neg vote
Report button which sends a link to the review to the bad review section of the forum.

dunno if the second one is possible

Jom

12-19-2005, 02:35 PM

the reason for this is so that if you've wrote one that really sucked like *cough* my first franz review *cough* then instead of getting told it'll be deleted by med or damrod, you can D.I.Y.

example.

reviewer X writes a really bad review, and wants to delete it. Medrod isn't on, or hasn't seenit, it falls off the front page and soon, it's so far down it isn't seen, reviewer x then has to bump his review for Medrod to see it. repeat,

now, if reviewer X had the power to delete his review, he could do it, without having to ask Med or Damrod.

now do you see why i think it's a good idea?

Well, if people wouldn't write poor reviews to begin with, this wouldn't be necessary.

///

2 more ideas, just repeating them as it will get seen quicker

force comment on a neg vote

No. People don't need to justify why a review is not well-written if it's obvious that it sucks.

Report button which sends a link to the review to the bad review section of the forum.

Similar to what MX has, where if you click the comment number it takes you to the individual post? I'd be for this, but it'd be difficult to code.

innerdark

12-19-2005, 02:50 PM

Well, if people wouldn't write poor reviews to begin with, this wouldn't be necessary.

///

No. People don't need to justify why a review is not well-written if it's obvious that it sucks.
yeah, but you have to walk before you run, the whole point of that would be so that you could have someone saying, you review sucks because of (inset sucky thing here) in future do (alternatives to what was bad)
get me?

Similar to what MX has, where if you click the comment number it takes you to the individual post? I'd be for this, but it'd be difficult to code. yeah, i think it was you that mentioned it

Shadows

12-19-2005, 03:04 PM

So, now that it's possible to add albums without adding a review, is it possible to edit them out of a band's page? Because I'm already seeing places where non-existent albums are being listed. It looks pretty bad.

Namely, Nevermore (http://www.musicianforums.com/sputnik/bands.php?bandid=471). No such album as Ashes of the Wake, unless someone doesn't know their Nevermore from their Lamb of God.

Jom

12-19-2005, 03:08 PM

yeah, but you have to walk before you run, the whole point of that would be so that you could have someone saying, you review sucks because of (inset sucky thing here) in future do (alternatives to what was bad)
get me?

Yeah, but if you recall, I said that I would be willing to help out new users if they were interested in having someone look over their review for grammar, spelling, and content. I had this idea with you in mind at the time because I wanted to help you out because you threatened to leave the site because people trashed you for your earlier reviews.

And what did you do? You went to Kripes instead of me. Bold move.

That says quite a bit, doesn't it.

masada

12-19-2005, 03:08 PM

(in reply to ShadowsFallen)

Yeah, same with listening Sonic Youth's Sonic Nurse as Nurse. I think it's a pointless feature, unless you think laziness on the reviewer's part is welcome.

*shakes fist wildly*

Shadows

12-19-2005, 03:26 PM

It sounded good at first, but I'm not liking it now. I'm assuming things will be done as mx continues on those changes he warned of.

This doesn't really have much relevance, but I think there should be a limit* on the number of 5 star ratings one can give.

http://www.musicianforums.com/sputnik/uservote.php?memberid=77121

*Not really, I'm just stating my opinion that some people give out too many 5 stars

innerdark

12-19-2005, 03:31 PM

Yeah, but if you recall, I said that I would be willing to help out new users if they were interested in having someone look over their review for grammar, spelling, and content. I had this idea with you in mind at the time because I wanted to help you out because you threatened to leave the site because people trashed you for your earlier reviews.

And what did you do? You went to Kripes instead of me. Bold move.

That says quite a bit, doesn't it.

because he'd called dibs on my first overall, but my next review is gonna be yours, i'll need your address again

but yeah, my next review, i may need a hand with

Jom

12-19-2005, 04:24 PM

"You've got it all wrong, you're misunderstanding."

My point was that it isn't pleasant to be undercut; look at the result, heh.

Jawaharal

12-19-2005, 04:39 PM

12-19-2005, 04:49 PM

So, now that it's possible to add albums without adding a review, is it possible to edit them out of a band's page? Because I'm already seeing places where non-existent albums are being listed. It looks pretty bad.

Mods can delete albums.

The point of adding albums without reviews is that you can rate albums and add them to your favorites if you don't want to write reviews. This site isnt only for reviewers...it's for the readers as well

masada

12-19-2005, 04:52 PM

hahahazhahahahaha what a fun user He forgot St. Anger. :(

Liberi Fatali

12-19-2005, 05:33 PM

Mods can delete albums.

The point of adding albums without reviews is that you can rate albums and add them to your favorites if you don't want to write reviews. This site isnt only for reviewers...it's for the readers as well
With all these new features and damrod and med57 being pretty busy lately, maybe it is time to get anoher sputnik mod or two? I remember when you first changed over to the current format, you said you'd mod some more people there.

Personally I'd suggest Jom in an instant.

Shadows

12-19-2005, 05:35 PM

People have mentioned that, but apparently mx said he didn't want to mod anyone else.

Then again, things have been changing, and teh* mods haven't been on.

*teh

innerdark

12-19-2005, 05:35 PM

I suggest Jom AND Shadowsfallen

Jom and Shadows are bothe great, helpful users, if you've got a problem, they'll help as much as possible. just my $.02

Jawaharal

12-19-2005, 05:47 PM

Nah, I think Liberi would be a good new sputnik mod.

Liberi Fatali

12-19-2005, 05:51 PM

Nah, I think Liberi would be a good new sputnik mod. What?

I only have 23 comments on sputnik, I'd hardly call myself active there. :-/

Plus modding the forums is enough work for me, having sputnik on top of that would blow.
People have mentioned that, but apparently mx said he didn't want to mod anyone else.

Then again, things have been changing, and teh* mods haven't been on.

*teh
Well with this new album and news stuff, there should be more work for the mods to do. So another mod wouldn't hurt.

innerdark

12-19-2005, 05:51 PM

maybe all 3?

liberi = NZ = +12hrs Gmt
SF=Ohio= -5hrs Gmt
Jom=?=+-?hrsGmt

Jawaharal

12-19-2005, 05:53 PM

maybe all 3?

liberi = NZ = +12hrs Gmt
SF=Ohio= -5hrs Gmt
Jom=?=+-?hrsGmt
No, just Liberi.

Britney Diva

12-19-2005, 07:09 PM

Nah, we don't need another mod, and I know Jom wouldn't want to do it anyway.

What I think would be helpful, though I imagine it's impossible, would be priveleges for the active contributors to the site to edit band details and submit news without need for verification. It might help the site run more smoothly.

12-19-2005, 07:15 PM

I'm pretty sure you can submit news without being a mod...

Jom

12-19-2005, 08:53 PM

I wouldn't have any objections to helping out in a lesser or equal capacity as Jonny and Jens. I admittedly am not a fan of the spam and other bunk posting that goes on there, but I would be more than willing to come to a compromise if it was asked of me.

I'd support Liberi, ShadowsFallen, and/or Iai as a third moderator. The thing with Dan is that he already mods The Pit, which is arguably more juvenile than some of the comments on Sputnikmusic.

Of course, I would argue otherwise :p

Shadows

12-19-2005, 09:31 PM

Hmmm...people think I would do alright as a mod? It's nice that others around here have that much faith in me.

Who is Jonny?

Jom

12-19-2005, 09:57 PM

Med57.

Britney Diva

12-19-2005, 10:17 PM

I'm pretty sure you can submit news without being a mod...
No, I mean it wouldn't need to be approved.

I wouldn't have any objections to helping out in a lesser or equal capacity as Jonny and Jens.
Prove me wrong why don't you? :p

Jom

12-19-2005, 10:44 PM

Prove me wrong why don't you? :p

Sorry, but I get along with you.

I'd also support this guy as a third moderator along with the other three I listed.

B-)

Damrod

12-20-2005, 07:36 AM

Med and I discussed the thing, and we will try to get mx to look at the matter as well. Should he deem it necessary to recruit additional mods, we will discuss potential candidates with him.

Please, until that happens don't flood this thread/forum with "But user X would make an excellent mod" or "But we need more mods". The matter will be attended to in due time.

Storm In A Teacup

12-20-2005, 11:45 AM

I am a supporter of the delete your own review because eventually I will entirely re-write about 5-8 of my reviews with a whole different opinion. I would rather just delete it rather than edit them because many of those specifice reviews have many comments in them that would seem weird when talking about the review. Ex.-Slipknot-Vol.3

Jom

12-20-2005, 11:54 AM

Just ask for the old comments to be deleted, as I and many others have done. It's not an arduous process for the moderators.

Damrod

12-20-2005, 11:55 AM

You all should drop it. I'm about 99.9% sure that mx won't implement something like "Delete your own review". For various reasons

innerdark

12-20-2005, 12:07 PM

i think i know one of them, if you go thacked, all your reviews could be deleted B-(

Suggestion: make comments on news articles appear on page or alter layout so that instead of new releases we have recent news articles

Jom

12-20-2005, 01:23 PM

You all should drop it.

Good man, I was worried you were going soft on us :p

i think i know one of them, if you got hacked, all your reviews could be deleted B-(

Suggestion: make comments on news articles appear on page or alter layout so that instead of new releases we have recent news articles

This News section just got started. I'm sure Jeremy is going to be constantly revamping it.

However, the focus should be on reviews, not news.

I do not think that news should have its own section on the main page. Having its own link, which leads to a branch of the Sputnikmusic site, on the top toolbar is ideal, as it is now.

innerdark

12-20-2005, 01:26 PM

yeah, when i submitted that, i didn't see the toolbar

Britney Diva

12-21-2005, 03:04 PM

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/album.php?albumid=4274

Could this be deleted, please? I hit 'enter' too early by mistake.

Shadows

12-21-2005, 03:53 PM

Jom

12-21-2005, 03:55 PM

Do you mods reserve review deleting for extremely poor or unacceptable reviews only? I'm going to go back and re-write some old reviews written under the old format, and I was considering the possibility of simply having the old review deleted and posting the new one to replace it. If this is too much trouble then I can deal.

I asked Med if I could do this, and he said it's allowed for the old forum reviews - just let him know when you want him to kill the old forum review so you can post the new one. However, he doesn't want "newer" reviews to be deleted; instead, those can be edited.

Shadows

12-21-2005, 04:10 PM

I asked Med if I could do this, and he said it's allowed for the old forum reviews - just let him know when you want him to kill the old forum review so you can post the new one. However, he doesn't want "newer" reviews to be deleted; instead, those can be edited.
None of these are newer. I just want to take out the old forum reviews I wrote and re-do them in a more up-to-date manner, plus I think they'd be getting more exposure in the new sputnik.

People are starting to flame me for things I wrote in my very first review over a yeard and a half ago. :(

Britney Diva

12-21-2005, 04:20 PM

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/news.php?newsid=17&genreid=0

If someone could edit out my tour dates, which I forgot were against the eurles, that would be great :-\

12-21-2005, 04:30 PM

Can't be edited yet

mullet_monster

12-21-2005, 08:12 PM

I'm sort of just throwin' this idea out there, I think it would be neat to have a place where you can request a review of a cd or artist. If you already have something like this, could you direct me to it, thanks.

Britney Diva

12-21-2005, 08:39 PM

Yep, we have a thread for that right here (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=293774). It just slips off the page every now and then, so you won't see it all the time.

DesolationRow

12-21-2005, 09:50 PM

I know it's not a necessity or a rather important matter, but i would really enjoy having a classic rock sub genre. And maybe put folk into the pop section instead of rock to decrease clutter. I know its not important, but it'd be cool.

12-21-2005, 10:18 PM

We used to have a classic rock genre, but it got removed as people didn't like a genre that would remain static.

Folk should be in the rock section... it has rock roots.

Britney Diva

12-21-2005, 10:26 PM

Rock has folk roots, surely? Besides, the bands listed under folk are folk rock artists as opposed to simple folksters like Woody Guthrie; it would be silly to remove them from rock. If rock is to be uncluttered, it'd be far more beneficial to clarify the difference between Mainstream Rock and Pop Rock.

Storm In A Teacup

12-22-2005, 10:35 AM

Crossfade is mainstream rock, but wouldn't ever go in pop-rock.

I hate those guys with a passion though.

Jawaharal

12-22-2005, 11:58 AM

Mainstream rock shouldn't be a genre. Just put it under general rock.

Storm In A Teacup

12-22-2005, 12:16 PM

I don't think anyone asked for it to be its own genre, it's already under Rock.

Shadows

12-22-2005, 12:28 PM

Mainstream rock already is its own genre. :confused:

Jom

12-22-2005, 12:50 PM

Yeah. I think the goal was for bands like Breaking Benjamin, Staind, Cold, and bands in a similar vein to fall under said genre.

Britney Diva

12-22-2005, 02:24 PM

Crossfade is mainstream rock, but wouldn't ever go in pop-rock.

I hate those guys with a passion though.
Yeah, but is there such a huge distinction between Matchbox 20, Sugar Ray and Creed that one would be put under pop and the others in rock? I just don't see the massive distinction; even if both were under rock it would make slightly more sense. Mainstream rock seems like a graveyard for the bands the pop-punkers refuse to accept as their own, plus a few odd bands like Nickelback and Creed.

12-22-2005, 03:54 PM

The difference between mainstream rock and pop rock is linkin park vs lifehouse. There is a big difference.

Britney Diva

12-22-2005, 07:07 PM

Well Linkin Park are a pretty straightforward metal band. I won't push it though; I just think there's a lot of ambiguity between it and pop-rock, aswell as pop-punk and general metal.

12-22-2005, 07:11 PM

Linkin Park metal? I wouldn't say that. Have you heard 'In the End?'

Liberi Fatali

12-22-2005, 07:13 PM

I've always thought of them as a combination of mainstream rock and nu-metal.

Britney Diva

12-22-2005, 07:45 PM

Linkin Park metal? I wouldn't say that. Have you heard 'In the End?'
Pop-metal, sure, but metal nonetheless. Heavy stuff.

masada

12-22-2005, 07:58 PM

They're about as heavy as Jennifer Lopez's acting.

Jom

12-22-2005, 10:11 PM

Linkin Park metal? I wouldn't say that. Have you heard 'In the End?'

Well, that's a bit of a wash. In Flames, a predominantly metal band, have songs such as "Acoustic Medley." Does that make them alternative or pop?

12-22-2005, 10:19 PM

This whole argument is going nowhere. The point is that bands cannot be easily categorized.

Storm In A Teacup

12-23-2005, 12:27 PM

Not pertaining to the arguement or anything, but I sadly have both Meteora and Hybrid Theory and in no way are Linkin Park a metal band. Nu-metal is as close to it as they will ever get. Really they are just rock music with rap in it and they aren't heavy either.

Damrod

12-23-2005, 03:25 PM

Honestly, folks, let it rest. Linkin Park is Nu-Metal, period. So please leave it be and let this thread return to what it is: the Suggestions Thread.

If you still want to discuss it, please take it to the community thread

Britney Diva

12-23-2005, 11:12 PM

There appears to be two Belle & Sebastians: the original (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands.php?bandid=665) and the new (http://www.sputnikmusic.com/bands.php?bandid=2079) one, apparently created by someone adding albums. I don't know how it happened, as the person would have to have bypassed the first B&S option in making each album, but that seems to be the way it worked out.

morrissey

12-23-2005, 11:47 PM

That's very weird, I created the second set, but like you said I went through the original artist profile to do it, I didn't make a new one. :confused:

This whole add album system is really messing me up. Aside from the above problem, I've been writing biographies but they've been cutting me at random places. Take the profile I just created for 702 as an example.

Largely forgotten, and justifiably so, 702 are a late 90s/early 00s female R&B/pop group who may be remembered for their minor hit - morrissey
I wrote a lot more than that but it cut me off. It happened on my Cardigans biography too:

Swedish pop/rock group who gained brief but massive fame in the United States thanks to their 1997 hit - morrissey
Does it just not like the word hit, or is it the quotation marks that surround the song name that mess it up?

I'm going to give up on adding albums for now, I'm sick of doing all this word and having it be erased. :(

edit: and if you're wondering why I'm adding such random unpopular bands it's because I'm starting with my one-hit wonder collection.

Britney Diva

12-23-2005, 11:51 PM

You could try using single quotation marks, which is what I always use.

I'm going to give up on adding albums for now, I'm sick of doing all this word and having it be erased.
Don't. I'm going on a bio spree over the next couple of weeks. I'm hoping to get all of pop done.

morrissey

12-23-2005, 11:54 PM

You could try using single quotation marks, which is what I always use.

Don't. I'm going on a bio spree over the next couple of weeks. I'm hoping to get all of pop done.
Ah I will try that. It should still be fixed though. :\

I'm doing pop too, only I'm adding new bands. :cool:

12-24-2005, 10:43 AM

I'll look at the album cutoff

Shadows

12-24-2005, 12:30 PM

The character limit on posts is pointlessly small. Can it be raised? I don't like having to take one post and separate it into three section and post them separately.

Also, a question about adding albums without reviews. Can an album be added before the music is released? I know of an album coming out soon that has a release date, title track list, and album cover all confirmed and released. The only thing that hasn't been released is the music. Can all of that be added to the band's page without reviewing the album?

Britney Diva

12-24-2005, 02:15 PM

The character limit on posts is pointlessly small. Can it be raised? I don't like having to take one post and separate it into three section and post them separately.
Maybe you should have smaller opinions :p

As for unreleased albums... somebody already added Guns N' Roses' Chinese Democracy twice, and an unreleased DVD twice, even though neither have either a set tracklist or are even sure to be released, so I'm sure we can trust you to do things properly.