Phil Jones Bass

[muthafunkabass]

So anybody here about these things?

http://www.philjonesbass.com

Those pirahna (sp?) cabinets are amazing! and the briefcase and the six pack! wow.

[Sergio]

They look absolutely monstrous.

And http://www.philjonesbass.com/PRODUCTS/AMP/T-500.htm (this head!):amaze: WTF?!

[Tryxx]

Yeah, they've come up time and time again, but it's hard to find many with some real world experience with them.

[muthafunkabass]

so far, the only place where i have found people with them is on harmony-central

[Sergio]

Yeah, they've come up time and time again, but it's hard to find many with some real world experience with them.

I'm pretty sure that they're pretty high-end, so I guess that's why you don't hear much, most people can't afford them.

[Tryxx]

I think there are a few of them on talkbass, but I don't believe they're actually mass produced, so that limits their quality. More of a order thing, you know?

[Mr. JazzMaster]

I'm suprised Justin Chancelor does'nt use those cabs...

[Sergio]

I'm suprised Justin Chancelor does'nt use those cabs...

For why do you say such things?

[neatobassman]

I saw the bassist of Hella using a Philjones amp with a 8x9 and a 12x9 and a Kubiki. I couldn't really hear him though, which made me sad, because I'm sure that was a kickass tone he had

[Criss Frantic]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/Punkbass/heyhey.jpg
:confused:

[Bass_swede]

haha

[zink182]

I want a briefcase.. it's hundred watts and has a built in battery
http://www.philjonesbass.com/IMAGES/PRODUCTS/SPEAKERS/Briefcase/briefcase.jpg

[skingle]

^^I bet those batteries last around 5 minutes.

[zink182]

actually jean baudin said his always lasted about 2 hours :)

[59 Flametop]

Phil Jones makes this stuff in China and has had so much trouble with it only a few stores have stuck with him on it. Now he has to sell it direct....much to the thrill of the few stores ;-)

Many are under the impression it is USA made. It is far from that. Contact some of the people that have reviewed the equipment and you will find many of them don't have their PJB stuff any more even though their rave reviews still live on the internet.

There have been so many failed amplifiers even among his "endorsers" (some even starting small fires I have been told) that at one point the company almost went belly up like several other of his ventures.

There are a few "ringer" reviewers out there, but they will be found out in time.

The idea of the small speakers is great, but it will take a big name company to knock the idea off with some decent quality amplification to keep it alive.

I don't see PJB in business for the long haul.

[59 Flametop]

Anybody else think the "Jay M. Lewis" reviews you see on most of the sites may have been written by Phil Jones himself?

Don't take my word for it....find out for yourself why he is not with any of the companies he has worked for including the ones he "founded" himself......

Whatever happened with Platinum Audio anyway?

Remember-these amps and speakers are made in CHINA. All Chinese parts, labor and quality control. Kinda like a cheap clock radio.........

[Mr. JazzMaster]

For why do you say such things?

OH just because he loves that trebely puchy sound.

I think someone told me he used to use SWR 8X8 but i don't know how relaible that info is.

[bryce_the_cat]

Bass guitar Magazine said that the breifcase was a fairly good amp, just it lacks in volume.

wait, when did Tryxx become a mod?

I became one yesterday because Jorge needed a break.

-Tryxx

[Radiobass81]

I think someone told me he used to use SWR 8X8 but i don't know how relaible that info is.

Mesa Boogie

[muthafunkabass]

Phil Jones makes this stuff in China and has had so much trouble with it only a few stores have stuck with him on it. Now he has to sell it direct....much to the thrill of the few stores ;-)

Many are under the impression it is USA made. It is far from that. Contact some of the people that have reviewed the equipment and you will find many of them don't have their PJB stuff any more even though their rave reviews still live on the internet.

There have been so many failed amplifiers even among his "endorsers" (some even starting small fires I have been told) that at one point the company almost went belly up like several other of his ventures.

There are a few "ringer" reviewers out there, but they will be found out in time.

The idea of the small speakers is great, but it will take a big name company to knock the idea off with some decent quality amplification to keep it alive.

I don't see PJB in business for the long haul.

Anybody else think the "Jay M. Lewis" reviews you see on most of the sites may have been written by Phil Jones himself?

Don't take my word for it....find out for yourself why he is not with any of the companies he has worked for including the ones he "founded" himself......

Whatever happened with Platinum Audio anyway?

Remember-these amps and speakers are made in CHINA. All Chinese parts, labor and quality control. Kinda like a cheap clock radio.........

i never heard anybody say anything bad about them. i wanted a six-pak really bad but now u have stopped me. please give some proof why i shouldn't get one, like links to the articles or something. on harmony-central and other reviews ive never seen anybody with problems. thanx for any help.


I think there are a few of them on talkbass, but I don't believe they're actually mass produced, so that limits their quality. More of a order thing, you know?

when did you become a mod? and where? you deserve it anyway.



Mesa Boogie

im guessing the stars on top of ur avatar are like ratings? ur the first mod i saw who didnt have five stars. (not making fun of you).


and finally why did you guys respond to this again? i dont care aren't you not supposed to respond to old threads? im glad this was updated though because i still want to know more.

[Tryxx]

Someone bumped the thread. Radiobass81 asked to be de-modded, I took his place.

[Thonk]

im guessing the stars on top of ur avatar are like ratings? ur the first mod i saw who didnt have five stars. (not making fun of you).
Radio stepped down as a mod which is why he only has 4 stars. It's the same with Subcontra(BassVirtuoso).

[59 Flametop]

Well I can PROVE to you they are made in China. Go buy one and look at the MADE IN CHINA sticker. All of his junk is made in China, his speakers, his amps, his R&D and engineering team, his whole operation is in China.

Now go do your own research and ask all of the people who have reviewed them for their personal opinion. Chances are you will get Phil Jones half the time anyway, or a "ringer" reviewer he bribed to write a review. Go to the NAMM show and see for yourself....see what the people say as they walk away after his demo amps blow up in the booth.

They have had MAJOR design and quality issues on these amps. By far the briefcase is the best hands down no question asked. BUT it is still cheap chinese made flawed engineering low end junk. It is just really cool really unique junk. Go to his website and see that he has hired Randy Sloan to try and de bug the design flaws.....when Randy gets finished with him go ask Randy yourself what he has seen. I am sure he will tell you once he finds out how business is done with this company unless he signed a confidentiality agreement.

I have it on good authority that a major player in the amp world is coming out with their own small driver version of a bass amp.....that might be the product you want to wait for.

As far as links or proof.....just do your homework. You WILL find a guy that had one of these amps cut out or quit working or just cause too many problems to keep. That is the guy you will believe....the one you find yourself, not the one I point you to.

Harmony Central WILL NOT publish overly harsh negative reviews....I question that sites true intentions all the time. Most people that post there want to re-afirm their purchase anyway and convince themselves they bought the right product....very few want to say they made a mistake and bought crap.

Time will tell on these issues......

[BenJammin]

Yeah, well, all that aside...

Stop bumping old threads.

[59 Flametop]

I just responded to the last guys posting from less than a week ago....

the whole thread is only 4 weeks old.....

O well....

[Tryxx]

No offense, but 4 weeks constitutes as pretty old, but seeing how productive your post is, I'll let it slide. :thumb:

Though, the testimonials from http://www.talkbass.com seem fairly positive.

[Jean Baudin]

not to re-bump an old re-bumped thread, but I have the briefcase thing and it's a pretty rad little amp. it handles the low b and F# strings and the sound is really good. Haven't played his other amps, and I'm aware his stuff is made in china. I wouldn't mind a second briefcase for doing stereo shows out on street corners.

[muthafunkabass]

not to re-bump an old re-bumped thread, but I have the briefcase thing and it's a pretty rad little amp. it handles the low b and F# strings and the sound is really good. Haven't played his other amps, and I'm aware his stuff is made in china. I wouldn't mind a second briefcase for doing stereo shows out on street corners.
wow are you really jean baudin?

[Jean Baudin]

No, I'm his secretary. :naughty:

[muthafunkabass]

No, I'm his secretary. :naughty:
u got my hopes up for a second:upset:

[Jean Baudin]

u got my hopes up for a second:upset:

Don't cry... yes, it's really me. Do you want a cookie?

[zink182]

Don't cry... yes, it's really me. Do you want a cookie?
I want one I want one :D

[muthafunkabass]

Don't cry... yes, it's really me. Do you want a cookie?
r u serious? wow.:eek: u've been my favorite player ever since i heard frosty acres. how is are ur basses tuned?

[Wintermute]

Looks like somebody missed out on a big thread. (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332655). :)

[muthafunkabass]

Looks like somebody missed out on a big thread. (http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332655). :)
cool, thx.:thumb: man, i cant believe that he posts here.

[Jean Baudin]

thanks, wintermute... see what happens when I try blend in... hahaha.... glad you dig my stuff muthafunkabass..

9 = F# - Bb
11 = C# - Eb.
or see big thread.

One cookie for iceland... oops I ate it.

[muthafunkabass]

thanks, wintermute... see what happens when I try blend in... hahaha.... glad you dig my stuff muthafunkabass..

9 = F# - Bb
11 = C# - Eb.
or see big thread.

One cookie for iceland... oops pacman ate it.
fixed:thumb:

[zink182]

thanks, wintermute... see what happens when I try blend in... hahaha.... glad you dig my stuff muthafunkabass..

9 = F# - Bb
11 = C# - Eb.
or see big thread.

One cookie for iceland... oops I ate it.

got damn pac man.. hehe.. he jean baudin who makes the strings for your basses ? 9 and 11 strings

[muthafunkabass]

got damn pac man.. hehe.. he jean baudin who makes the strings for your basses ? 9 and 11 strings
conklin, probably. they make ERB strings too, so....

[Jean Baudin]

conklin sidewinders for the 9's.
for the 11s - la bella and fodera strings (both basses have extra long scale 40+ including the bridge which needs special strings).

[muthafunkabass]

conklin sidewinders for the 9's.
for the 11s - la bella and fodera strings (both basses have extra long scale 40+ including the bridge which needs special strings).
oh g-d im still overwhelmed that you post here....

[zink182]

conklin sidewinders for the 9's.
for the 11s - la bella and fodera strings (both basses have extra long scale 40+ including the bridge which needs special strings).


I use DR lo riders gauge 50 - 110 :) I like them..

[59 Flametop]

The Briefcase is by far his best amp as I admitted to earlier....they run about 50-50 on problems from what I have heard.

The rest are a sad sad story. The first shipments almost had to be scrapped.

The fixes suggested for the next bunch were shoddy patch jobs that shocked dealers and consumers. Many amps were sent back several times with no satisfaction.

That was the main thrust of my response to this post....Made, designed and engineered in China (yuk:lol: ), problem ridden, over hyped, companies future questionable for warranty or repair parts, but a very neat idea.

Oh and by the way, a lot of those guys on talk bass forum don't even have there PJB crap anymore. Many had problems after they wrote the reviews and after a few exchanges with the same problems occuring (or new ones) they sent them back for good. BUT they never seem to edit their posts to indicate this....after several times hearing the same story I don't need to look for any more proof. Gather your own proof before you lay down that kind of money for an amp.

That is all.

[nisakss]

it's a shame, i thought the briefcase was a pretty cool idea.

btw,if i revealed myself, you would still not take me seriously.

[59 Flametop]

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=172342&highlight=pjb

It seems the truth is rising to the surface over at talkbass as well......

Their wishfull thinking that these issues will get worked out is unfounded in my opinion.


BTW, even on the PJB website they are starting to post "incompatibility issues" in yellow warning signs with some types of cables....and they are disclaiming they will not warranty amps damaged by this sort of thing.....wonder what the next one will disclaim.....

I smell a buck being passed.

Also notice that the "warning" is in CHINESE !!! :lol: :lol: You need to open the Microsoft translator to read it.......

Oh well.....free enterprise I guess.....

[godzillarator]

i dont think i can say anything i dont know anyone with any experince

But its a intresting theroy