OK, so now im emo

[willibassist]

Ive just joined a emo band and was wonderin what kinda music i should listen to to get a feel for emo music. also, do emo bassists downtune or what? what emo songs have good basslines. the rest of the band is mainly into bullet fro my valentine and funeral for a friend

[Riouken]

Every human being in the world is emo. So I dunno what you're asking? How to play emo music? Just play music with strong sincerity and put emotion into it, shouldn't be too hard.

[edgebass5]

all you need to do is dye your hair black, wear it down in front of your face, get your lip pierced kinda off to the side, wear all black but with pink logos, paint your finger nails black but not all of them and make sure to look and act sad all the time :lol:

gav will come in here and ban me for that, and then tell you all about how to be emo.

[willibassist]

erm just out of interest which kind of knives are best for cutting yourself lol

[fatbandit]

Dude... If the band plays in drop tunings, and you need to droptune to match, then do. Still, just because the band downtunes doesn't mean you have to. Likewise, if they don't, doesn't mean you can't if you don't want to.

Play what you want, and what sounds good. Boundaries don't get pushed by asking how to 'fit in' in that way.

I'm in a metal band... I don't fit a stereotypical metal bassist I guess, in image or in playing. But hey, that's just me.

And you should just be you! Don't look at it as an emo band, look at is as your band! :D

:smash:

[Ian]

The only emo-ish band I ever got into was Thursday, to me they seemed to stand out form the rest of those bands. I like the Full Collapse album.

Alot of that emo stuff is in Drop D, maybe some of the more hardcore based bands will go down to CGCF.

[peeted]

just because your in an emo band doesnt mean you have to do what every other emo bassist does.
id have a lissen to thrice any way though because they have a very impresive bassist and play emoish music. all so give anti flag a lissen, i know there not emo but its the style of bass playing that can be aplied to that sort of music.

[edgebass5]

I will say that the bassist from Taking Back Sunday (they're emo right?) Matt Rubano is a great bassist. He worships at the temple of James Jamerson which gets him an A+ in my book.

[Chris K]

erm just out of interest which kind of knives are best for cutting yourself lol

I see 'lords walking round with T shirts iwith Razor blades one 'em, try those.

[willibassist]

I see 'lords walking round with T shirts iwith Razor blades one 'em, try those.

cheers mate, will do

[Chris K]

cheers mate, will do

I hear sleeping pills/paracetemol/laxatives crushed over ice cream is a popular dish among the "woe is me" brigade too.

[socalledbassplayer]

im not so sure what you would consider emo....but i'd listen to hawthorne heights, emery, house of heroes (their bassist is pretty rockin') and finch. i play some emo, and, i find most of it boring, but thats just me.

[British Kid]

hmmmm..... well, like everyone else said, drop tune, possibly to C# (that's the lowest i've ever heard for emo music. uh, i'd say that in emo, less is more. mostly rooting with fifths thrown in and probably a constant beat......

[Deacy]

Tight clothes might help

[Chris K]

Tight clothes might help

yes, clothes that fit are so conformist.

[willibassist]

yes, clothes that fit are so conformist.

if by conformist you mean homosexual youd b rite

[70 Cam Guy]

wear all black but with pink logos, paint your finger nails black but not all of them and make sure to look and act sad all the time :lol:

gav will come in here and ban me for that, and then tell you all about how to be emo.

:lol: don't forget the checkerboard belt and that the jeans are good huggers that are a size or so too small. black eyeliner for good measure

Never make eye contact with the camera :upset:

pretty much any band plays with emotion but I guess emo bands take it to the next level. There shouldn't be any reason to down tune if the guitars aren't doing it

[Chris K]

if by conformist you mean homosexual youd b rite

No, I mean, for teh em0's, well fitting clothes are a no-no.

[Jamie]

all you need to do is dye your hair black, wear it down in front of your face, get your lip pierced kinda off to the side, wear all black but with pink logos, paint your finger nails black but not all of them and make sure to look and act sad all the time :lol:

gav will come in here and ban me for that, and then tell you all about how to be emo.


Chris, get with urban political correctness! its "scene" not emo!

:amaze: :p

[fathergoat]

Well, I would listen to bands like Rufio, TBS, and the bands that the rest of the band like.

Browse through the pop-punk forum and the emo/hardcore forum and just download random things. But beware, the emo forum is very very picky on what is emo and what isn't. Try pop-punk first.

[wicked_child]

listen to taking back sunday and coheed.

[802.11-NGR]

Hey- I should start telling emo jokes again.
*realizes that is why I got banned from UG*
Doesn't tell jokes.
*answers PM asking for jokes*

[Liebensaft]

Try borrowing your little sister's jeans. The decreased blood flow to your legs caused by the tightness of the pants helps you play better.

[edgebass5]

Chris, get with urban political correctness! its "scene" not emo!

:amaze: :p

Sorry sorry sorry...... :upset: I guess I'm not very "scene" huh?

[Criss Frantic]

Ive just joined a emo band

Why???

[DaveSavesTheDay]

*waits for gav *

[FU.CKY.OU]

Definatly Rufio, there bassist is good.

Check out still and above me.

[bottlerocket]

*sigh*

You all dissapoint me...;)

TBS, Rufio, Hawthorne Heights, etc., is all mainstream emo and isn't "true" emo...I just usually cite specific popular emo bands.

Yes, edge, Matt Rubano from TBS is an awesome bassist and worships Jamerson.

Anyway, actual emo bands for you to listen to:

Moss Icon
Indian Summer
Lickgoldensky
Portrait

I'm more into screamo, which is a bit more melodic yet heavier and thrashier than emo...it's very similar but very different. Band suggestions:

Saetia
Love Like...Electrocution
Living a Day in Black and White
Circle Takes the Square
The Number 12 Looks Like You
Saosin
Fear Before the March of Flames
Love Lost but Not Forgotten
Kaospilot
Welcome the Plague Year
The Kodan Armada

Current favorite songs:
"Patchwork Neurology" - Circle Takes the Square
".44 Caliber Love Letter" - Alexisonfire
"Behold a Pale Horse" - Welcome the Plague Year
"Chipped Tooth Smile" - After School Knife Fight
Anything by Saetia

For some more mainstream "screamo" or "emo" (stuff that's not actually emo or screamo/hardcore/metalcore but people call it that anyway):
"Dale Earnheart's Seatbelt" - The Bled
"The City Sleeps in Flames" - Scary Kids Scaring Kids
"Your Sword Vs. My Dagger" - Silverstein
"The Ides of March" - Silverstein
Anything by Taking Back Sunday...the old CD was better but the bassist, Shaun Cooper, wasn't as good as their new bassist, Matt Rubano, but his old lines were pretty cool...check out "Great Romances" and "Cute Without the E"

^ That's all mainstream "emo" stuff and isn't actually "emo" but it's labeled as it...eh, whatever. :p

etc.

For the record, Hawthorne Heights is a scar and blemish on waht is true emo...yes, emo is mainly a fad and there are scenesters and posers out there, but hey, that's in every genre. I dress the way I dress and listen to the music I listen to because I like it. I don't do it to fit in. If you don't like it, fine, but don't bash me for my life choices. :)

/thread

:thumb:

-Gav

[bottlerocket]

all you need to do is dye your hair black, wear it down in front of your face, get your lip pierced kinda off to the side, wear all black but with pink logos, paint your finger nails black but not all of them and make sure to look and act sad all the time :lol:

gav will come in here and ban me for that, and then tell you all about how to be emo.

Ah, scenesters. :lol:

You can't really "be" emo unless you're a poseur. Yes, I have hair that goes over my eyes. Yes, it's very dark brown (natural hair color). Yes, I wear tight shirts and girl pants. Yes, I wear Chucks, Sauconys, Pumas, and other "emo" shoes. Yes, I scream for a band or two. But that doesn't mean I'm "emo" in the generic sense of the word. ;)

:thumb:

-Gav

[DaveSavesTheDay]

Gav , i tried to find that thread of that huge list of emo bands , but no luck finding it :upset:

[bottlerocket]

^ They're all generic and popular emo bands...not much stuff I actually listen to...I'll post it anyway, hold on:

Armor for Sleep (certain songs)
At The Drive In
Bayside
Blood Brothers
Boys Night Out <--- plays a Ric
Coheed and Cambria
Cursive <--- plays a stand up
The Decemberists <--- plays a fretless J bass
Emery
The Faint
Fear Before the March of Flames
From First to Last <--- at times he has cool lines
Funeral for a Friend
Further Seems Forever
The Get Up Kids
The Gloria Record
The Good Life
Gym Class Heroes <--- more indie hip hop than emo but he grooves
He Is Legend <--- at times
The Juliana Theory
Matchbook Romance
Mineral
Minus the Bear
Motion City Soundtrack <--- at times
The Movielife
My Chemical Romance <--- at times
Piebald
The Receiving End of Sirens
Rilo Kiley
Rufio
Saosin
Saves the Day
Straylight Run
Taking Back Sunday <--- both the old (Shaun Cooper) and new (Matt Rubano) bassists...Rubano graduated from Berklee, too, so shut up.
Thrice
Thursday

So yeah, there's a few of the many good "emo" bassits...look, I'll even do certain song reccomendations:

Rufio:
Still
One Slowdance
Above Me (listen to the runs at the end of the song)

Cursive:
The Martyr
Fairytales Tell Tales
The Recluse

The Decemberists:
Sixteen Military Wives
The Song of the Mariner's Revenge

Emery:
Disguising Mistakes With Goodbyes
The Ponytail Parade

Fear Before the March of Flames:
Sarah Goldfarb, Where Are Your Manners?
The 20th Century Was Entirely Mine
Given to Dreams
Go Wash Your Mouth...I Don't Know Where It's Been
On the Bright Side, She Could Choke
Should Have Stayed in the Shadows
The State of Texas vs. Fear Before

From First to Last:
Note to Self
Kiss Me, I'm Contagious
Secrets Don't Make Friends
Ride the Wings of Pestilence

Funeral for a Friend:
Juneau
She Drove Me to Daytime TV

Gym Class Heroes:
Makeout Club
Paper Cuts
Pillmatic
Taxi Driver

Matchbook Romance:
Promise
If All Else Fails

Minus the Bear:
Pony Up
Hey, Wanna Throw Up? Get Me Naked...
Drop It Like It's Hot
Monkey!!! Knife!!! Fight!!!
Thanks for the Killer Game of Crisco Twister
Absinthe Party at the Fly Honey Warehouse
Let's Play Guitar in a 5 Guitar Band

Piebald:
The Benefits of Ice Cream
Haven't Tried It
Part of Your Body is Made Out of Rock

Rufio:
Still
Above Me
One Slow Dance
She Cries

Saves the Day:
Rocks, Tonic, Juice, Magic
The Last Lie I Told
My Sweet Fracture
Through Being Cool

Taking Back Sunday:
Old Bassist Shaun Cooper
Cute Without the E (Cut From the Team)
Great Romance of the 20th Century
You're So Last Summer
No "I' in Team
Timberwolves at New Jersey
New Bassist Matt Rubano (Berklee graduate who also played bass on Lauren Hill's album
Set Phasers To Stun
A Decade Under the Influence
This Photograph is Proof
The Union
I am Fred Astaire
One-Eighty By Summer
Little Devotional

Thrice:
Paper Tigers
In Years to Come
Identity Crisis
Deadbolt
The Artist in the Ambulance

Thursday:
Cross Out the Eyes
Jet Black New Year
Division Street
Understanding in a Car Crash
Paris in Flames
Tomorrow I'll Be You
I Am the Killer

Please note that most of those bands are not truly "emo" in the ACTUAL sense of the word but are in the pop-cultural sense and commonly depicted sense. :thumb:

Also, a brief word on emo:

"Emo" no longer has any set characteristic. Origianlly, it applied to the first emo bands like Sunny Day Real Estate and Fugazi...now it spands way too much.

Emo is characterized by passionate lyrics, heartfelt guitar, melodic leads, and deep emotion in the music, usually despair or some other such emotion.

However, emo has branched into many different styles. "Straight" emo can be seen though the works of Christopher Carrabba, better known as Dashboard Confessional. Emo has become a bit more mainstream with bands like Taking Back Sunday. Also, "emocore" is not unpopular, with bands like Anatomy of a Ghost dominating that scene.

From emo also stemmed hardcore and screamo, the much more brutal forms of emo. While it still has passionate lyrics and melodic leads, the lyrics tend to be more brutal and the guitar and other instruments in general. The guitar is very "jagged" sounding and the screams assault the ear with a plethora of emotion. Hardcore music can be seen through bands like Bane, Guns Up, Blue Monday, etc.. Screamo can be seen through Saetia, Hot Cross, Circle Takes the Square, etc..

:thumb:

-Gav

[BenJammin]

I had no idea that what'shisface from Cursive played upright. I thought the only bowed instrument they had was Gretta, before she left.

[DaveSavesTheDay]

Thats the one

[bottlerocket]

I had no idea that what'shisface from Cursive played upright. I thought the only bowed instrument they had was Gretta, before she left.

They have both an electric bass and a cello...Cursive is one incredibly talented band if you're into slow indie like that.

:thumb:

-Gav

[BenJammin]

They have both an electric bass and a cello...Cursive is one incredibly talented band if you're into slow indie like that.

:thumb:

-Gav

Oh, yeah. I bloody love Cursive. I was really sad to hear that Gretta left, because I thought that The Ugly Organ was an amazing album.

Edit: The Burst and Bloom EP, also.

[thelowsoundofbass]

They have both an electric bass and a cello...Cursive is one incredibly talented band if you're into slow indie like that.

:thumb:

-Gav

gav the redsox lost, change your user title

lowsound

[bottlerocket]

^ I was just doing that, actually...and a new avatar. ;)

By the way, don't remind me. :evil:

:thumb:

-Gav

[thelowsoundofbass]

^ I was just doing that, actually...and a new avatar. ;)

By the way, don't remind me. :evil:

:thumb:

-Gav

sorry, well my team lost tonight as well

lowsound

[sixxbassist90]

oops i dropped a photo.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y261/4stringedgroove/yankees.jpg

[janyeno]

I'm sure you've been asked this alot... but... why do you wear girl pants??? I NEVER understood this... is it a statement?

[LewsTherin]

Gav! Im mad at you now!!

A thread about emo, and absolutely no mention of Rites of Spring?!


How could you?! Especially since alot of their basslines rock.

TS, Go listen to some Rites of Spring. Songs:
Spring
Deeper Than Inside
For Want Of
Hain's Point
All There Is
Drink Deep*
Other Way Around
Theme*
By Design
Remainder
Persistent Vision
Nudes
End On End
All Through A Life*
Hidden Wheel
In Silence/Words Away
Patience

*is especially good/good bass.


Also, listen to some Fugazi. Although they arent emo per se, they did influence some later emo bands. "Waiting Room" is worth listening to.

Im also a fan of Jawbreaker. They can be emo-ish. "Want", "Do You Still Hate Me" and "Kiss the Bottle" are worth listening to.

[bottlerocket]

I'm sure you've been asked this alot... but... why do you wear girl pants??? I NEVER understood this... is it a statement?

I'm a size 2 (second smallest size in standard girl pants) and they are SO comfortable and stretchy...I love them.

Lews: *slaps forehead* How did I forget them?!

/cries

Sixx and lowsound: watch the spam, please...especially you, Sixx. Get that trash out of there. :evil:

:thumb:

-Gav

[sixxbassist90]

I'm a size 2 (second smallest size in standard girl pants) and they are SO comfortable and stretchy...I love them.

Lews: *slaps forehead* How did I forget them?!

/cries

Sixx and lowsound: watch the spam, please...especially you, Sixx. Get that trash out of there. :evil:

:thumb:

-Gav
Trash! Im offended! i dont get it the new spam rules. you can post pics of fruit?

[LewsTherin]

"Patchwork Neurology" - Circle Takes the Square

For the record, Hawthorne Heights is a scar and blemish on waht is true emo...yes, emo is mainly a fad and there are scenesters and posers out there, but hey, that's in every genre. I dress the way I dress and listen to the music I listen to because I like it. I don't do it to fit in. If you don't like it, fine, but don't bash me for my life choices. :)



a) Kill The Switch, A Crater To Cough In and Houdini Logic > Patchwork Neurology

b) me = scenester lolz. And Im going to see HH. Dont hate.

c) :smash:

[DaveSavesTheDay]

Trash! Im offended! i dont get it the new spam rules. you can post pics of fruit?


My guess : Pinapple hit list?

[bottlerocket]

^ I will explain in the casual...it involves the pineapple hitlist and its apparent resurrection.

:thumb:

-Gav

[LewsTherin]

I'm a size 2 (second smallest size in standard girl pants) and they are SO comfortable and stretchy...I love them.

Lews: *slaps forehead* How did I forget them?!

/cries




size 2? jesus. I think if I wore girls pants, theyd be like size 6. And I agree, small, stretchy pants = the way to go. I suggest you look at Levi's #514. I heart them.


And how did you? And you should. Go cry in the corner like a good emokid.

[bottlerocket]

a) Kill The Switch, A Crater To Cough In and Houdini Logic > Patchwork Neurology

b) me = scenester lolz. And Im going to see HH. Dont hate.

c) :smash:

Patchwork Neurology just explodes after the intro chant, though...it's so good, although those other songs completely pwn.

:thumb:

-Gav

[LewsTherin]

Patchwork Neurology just explodes after the intro chant, though...it's so good, although those other songs completely pwn.

:thumb:

-Gav

well, most of their songs do.

[Anakin Skywalker]

*sigh*

You all dissapoint me...;)

TBS, Rufio, Hawthorne Heights, etc., is all mainstream emo and isn't "true" emo...I just usually cite specific popular emo bands.

Yes, edge, Matt Rubano from TBS is an awesome bassist and worships Jamerson.

Anyway, actual emo bands for you to listen to:

Moss Icon
Indian Summer
Lickgoldensky
Portrait

I'm more into screamo, which is a bit more melodic yet heavier and thrashier than emo...it's very similar but very different. Band suggestions:

Saetia
Love Like...Electrocution
Living a Day in Black and White
Circle Takes the Square
The Number 12 Looks Like You
Saosin
Fear Before the March of Flames
Love Lost but Not Forgotten
Kaospilot
Welcome the Plague Year
The Kodan Armada

Current favorite songs:
"Patchwork Neurology" - Circle Takes the Square
".44 Caliber Love Letter" - Alexisonfire
"Behold a Pale Horse" - Welcome the Plague Year
"Chipped Tooth Smile" - After School Knife Fight
Anything by Saetia

For some more mainstream "screamo" or "emo" (stuff that's not actually emo or screamo/hardcore/metalcore but people call it that anyway):
"Dale Earnheart's Seatbelt" - The Bled
"The City Sleeps in Flames" - Scary Kids Scaring Kids
"Your Sword Vs. My Dagger" - Silverstein
"The Ides of March" - Silverstein
Anything by Taking Back Sunday...the old CD was better but the bassist, Shaun Cooper, wasn't as good as their new bassist, Matt Rubano, but his old lines were pretty cool...check out "Great Romances" and "Cute Without the E"

^ That's all mainstream "emo" stuff and isn't actually "emo" but it's labeled as it...eh, whatever. :p

etc.

For the record, Hawthorne Heights is a scar and blemish on waht is true emo...yes, emo is mainly a fad and there are scenesters and posers out there, but hey, that's in every genre. I dress the way I dress and listen to the music I listen to because I like it. I don't do it to fit in. If you don't like it, fine, but don't bash me for my life choices. :)

/thread

:thumb:

-Gav

Thank you for actually knowing what real emo is. You're one of my new favorite MX'ers for that post. It pisses me off how people think emo is Hawthorne Heights and My Chemical Romance, when in reality it's stuff like City of Caterpiller, Hot Cross, Circle Takes the Square, etc.

[bottlerocket]

^ I know exactly what you mean...I don't really know you, but I officially love you, too.

City of Caterpiller = love

Hey, I suggest you check out "The Sound of Animals Fighitng." After Saosin's lead singer Anthony Green left, he started a side project with a bunch of other guys from bands (I think the drummer from Weezer, etc.) and they all take on animal names and refuse to let anyone know who they are (I only know it's Anthony because of his distinctive voice). Definitely check them out; it's like an acid trip put to music...they are so amazing and they really really know their theory. The inside CD packet shows every scale/mode they play and how they switch...it's incredible.

:thumb:

-Gav

[Anakin Skywalker]

^ I know exactly what you mean...I don't really know you, but I officially love you, too.

City of Caterpiller = love

Hey, I suggest you check out "The Sound of Animals Fighitng." After Saosin's lead singer Anthony Green left, he started a side project with a bunch of other guys from bands (I think the drummer from Weezer, etc.) and they all take on animal names and refuse to let anyone know who they are (I only know it's Anthony because of his distinctive voice). Definitely check them out; it's like an acid trip put to music...they are so amazing and they really really know their theory. The inside CD packet shows every scale/mode they play and how they switch...it's incredible.

:thumb:

-Gav

Ahh, I love The Sound of Animals Fighting. That CD insert sounds really tight.

Do you listen to anything besides emo/screamo? I listen to a lot of hardcore and metalcore too, like As I Lay Dying, Throwdown, Bane, etc.

[tomtom]

BAHAHAHA emo






well, at least your in a band .................................................. ...... :(

[bottlerocket]

^ I'm not as big a hardcore fan as I was...I'm from Boston and you know what the scene's like here...I'm friends with a lot of the people in it, but it's becoming too violent too fast for me to be part of, so I mainly stay away from straight hardcore shows and stick to the scarce screamo shows that are around here.

I suggest you listen to Blue Monday and Guns Up if you like hardcore...they're pretty cool. :p

Local screamo band:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=7814356&Mytoken=1A8A993F-959A-408F-AD7C3EAAFD3E03902265383359

Great stuff right there. :)

:thumb:

-Gav

[bottlerocket]

BAHAHAHA emo






well, at least your in a band .................................................. ...... :(

AHEM!

;) :p

I'm in a few...I play bass in one and scream and sing in two.

:thumb:

-Gav

[DaveSavesTheDay]

Gav. Casual. Now.

[JamesXKillXyou]

Every human being in the world is emo. So I dunno what you're asking? How to play emo music? Just play music with strong sincerity and put emotion into it, shouldn't be too hard.


hahaha yes yes!

to be honest man "emo bassists" wtf???? dude I will say it time and time again and look at what i look like, I aint emo! I have long hair doesnt make me emo. All music is emo, because all music should be played and sung with emotion... meh Just play how you feel and what fits with the music. To be honest I dont know what you guys are going for so I can't give you any references. Definitly dont go off that pop punk / rock stuff they have on MTV that is the worst oh man THE worst.

To be honest if you want a good example if heart felt music sung and played with emotion. Hopesfall. OLD stuff this is "the satellite years" and there ep "no wings to speak of" A song that really kills me is Dana Walker the end part is instrumental but great alot of there songs have that in it and its just great sung and played with emotion man.

For the sake of your band I wouldn't keep it restricted to a genre, you guys need to find YOUR sound, that can be a mix of things and quite unique which makes a band great. Play what you feel is right and a good mix to the music. Just dont classify your band as emo.

[Anakin Skywalker]

^ I'm not as big a hardcore fan as I was...I'm from Boston and you know what the scene's like here...I'm friends with a lot of the people in it, but it's becoming too violent too fast for me to be part of, so I mainly stay away from straight hardcore shows and stick to the scarce screamo shows that are around here.

I suggest you listen to Blue Monday and Guns Up if you like hardcore...they're pretty cool. :p

Local screamo band:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=7814356&Mytoken=1A8A993F-959A-408F-AD7C3EAAFD3E03902265383359

Great stuff right there. :)

:thumb:

-Gav

Woah dude, that band is awesome. They sound kind of like this local band that my band played with this one time, they were called Adelle.

Yeah man, the shows at Boston can get pretty rough. I was originally from Philly, where there was a really crazy scene. There's always the kids with bandanas and camo shorts that are buff as hell beating each other up. Although, I wear camo shorts all the time, except when it's cold when I wear girl's jeans unless I'm getting bitched at by someone thinking I'm gay.

[JamesXKillXyou]

and Gav, my crew owns all of boston. as of now its just me. I pump iron ok im pretty jacked :lol: im so tuff i myself make my own pit ppl give me good distance not out of respect but just because i eff sh-it up :lol: :lol: :lol:

[tomtom]

AHEM!

;) :p

I'm in a few...I play bass in one and scream and sing in two.

:thumb:

-Gav
sorry dude, i just don't like emo.
in my opinion they only windge ..................... is that how you spell that?
anyway, i gtg now, later days

[Anakin Skywalker]

AHEM!

;) :p

I'm in a few...I play bass in one and scream and sing in two.

:thumb:

-Gav

Word, I used to scream in one, then my scream just shorted out on me.

[JamesXKillXyou]

most of these bands today dont consider themselves emo thats just a word us listeners (not me) turned into a genre alot of mis labeling going on. Its hard to label a band thought. But Ive found that most "Emo" bands really are just a rock/punk pop band with some catchy material and lyrics written to relate to those teenie boppers with relationship problems and think they have it oh so hard. I say play music and thats it. For all the discussions about emo in these forums if you take the time added up, jeez we'd all be a bit better with our instruments. *think.

[bottlerocket]

sorry dude, i just don't like emo.
in my opinion they only windge ..................... is that how you spell that?
anyway, i gtg now, later days

Psht, don't get your panties in a bunch...I don't care if you don't like emo. :D

James: Psht, yeah, OK; my friend Tony was in a pit and broke his arm because someone brought brass knuckles in the pit and was blindly throwing his arms around as hard as he could...then a fight ensued...with a total of 8 broken bones and 10 cops getting involved. :lol:

/avoids hardcore shows like rape now, unless his friend's band is playing

It's not that people on the scene hate me. Quite the contrary; I'm pretty popular, I just don't really like the music too much. That's all. :p

/screamo > hardcore

:thumb:

-Gav

[bottlerocket]

Word, I used to scream in one, then my scream just shorted out on me.

Yeah, mine comes and goes...at times it's very "George from Alexisonfire" type and others it's just...eh, well...I need to build up my endurance. :lol:

:thumb:

-Gav

[JamesXKillXyou]

Word, I used to scream in one, then my scream just shorted out on me.

With my old band, My guitarist was our screamer and a **** good one we couldnt afford him to soley just give up and do screaming and sacrifice playing. So I attempted to and Although I considered my voice to be quite nice and at the time so did they we got a second mic and through the PA I sounded pretty ****ty so I gave up. Nothing like a bad screamer / singer to kill the rest of the sound. Plus I dont know how people scream or sing for whole sets and come out with a perfect voice. Id loose mine after 1 song.

[Anakin Skywalker]

With my old band, My guitarist was our screamer and a **** good one we couldnt afford him to soley just give up and do screaming and sacrifice playing. So I attempted to and Although I considered my voice to be quite nice and at the time so did they we got a second mic and through the PA I sounded pretty ****ty so I gave up. Nothing like a bad screamer / singer to kill the rest of the sound. Plus I dont know how people scream or sing for whole sets and come out with a perfect voice. Id loose mine after 1 song.

Ahh, just like me. I was a guitarist and a screamer at first, and I was the lead guitarist at that. So it was pretty hard, and I just couldn't do it. The ability to do it for a long time just comes with practice. My friend is in this band Skeleton Proof Tanks, and he screams, and when his mic broke he screamed through the whole mix without a mic, and could still talk afterwards. It was insane, but his voice sounded really messed up afterwards.

And, to your user title, which mosh parts do you prefer? One of my old bands was just alternating 2-step parts, buildups, and breakdowns over and over again with the occasional double bass roll, so we were pretty much one long mosh part.

[Keepitcoolidge]

congratulations- you are now a grade "A" retard

[Left Shoe]

*sigh*

You all dissapoint me...;)

TBS, Rufio, Hawthorne Heights, etc., is all mainstream emo and isn't "true" emo...I just usually cite specific popular emo bands.

Yes, edge, Matt Rubano from TBS is an awesome bassist and worships Jamerson.

Anyway, actual emo bands for you to listen to:

Moss Icon
Indian Summer
Lickgoldensky
Portrait

I'm more into screamo, which is a bit more melodic yet heavier and thrashier than emo...it's very similar but very different. Band suggestions:

Saetia
Love Like...Electrocution
Living a Day in Black and White
Circle Takes the Square
The Number 12 Looks Like You
Saosin
Fear Before the March of Flames
Love Lost but Not Forgotten
Kaospilot
Welcome the Plague Year
The Kodan Armada

Current favorite songs:
"Patchwork Neurology" - Circle Takes the Square
".44 Caliber Love Letter" - Alexisonfire
"Behold a Pale Horse" - Welcome the Plague Year
"Chipped Tooth Smile" - After School Knife Fight
Anything by Saetia

For some more mainstream "screamo" or "emo" (stuff that's not actually emo or screamo/hardcore/metalcore but people call it that anyway):
"Dale Earnheart's Seatbelt" - The Bled
"The City Sleeps in Flames" - Scary Kids Scaring Kids
"Your Sword Vs. My Dagger" - Silverstein
"The Ides of March" - Silverstein
Anything by Taking Back Sunday...the old CD was better but the bassist, Shaun Cooper, wasn't as good as their new bassist, Matt Rubano, but his old lines were pretty cool...check out "Great Romances" and "Cute Without the E"

^ That's all mainstream "emo" stuff and isn't actually "emo" but it's labeled as it...eh, whatever. :p

etc.

For the record, Hawthorne Heights is a scar and blemish on waht is true emo...yes, emo is mainly a fad and there are scenesters and posers out there, but hey, that's in every genre. I dress the way I dress and listen to the music I listen to because I like it. I don't do it to fit in. If you don't like it, fine, but don't bash me for my life choices. :)

/thread

:thumb:

-Gav
pff you emo elitist, rufio is not emo, HH is bad emo, and you know you like the tbs.
Circle takes the squre and the number 12 looks like arent screamo, they are grindcore.
im not sure how SKSK is popular =P i definitley showed them to you, and no one listens to them anyway.
^ They're all generic and popular emo bands...not much stuff I actually listen to...I'll post it anyway, hold on:

Armor for Sleep (certain songs)
At The Drive In
Bayside
Blood Brothers
Boys Night Out <--- plays a Ric
Coheed and Cambria
Cursive <--- plays a stand up
The Decemberists <--- plays a fretless J bass
Emery
The Faint
Fear Before the March of Flames
From First to Last <--- at times he has cool lines
Funeral for a Friend
Further Seems Forever
The Get Up Kids
The Gloria Record
The Good Life
Gym Class Heroes <--- more indie hip hop than emo but he grooves
He Is Legend <--- at times
The Juliana Theory
Matchbook Romance
Mineral
Minus the Bear
Motion City Soundtrack <--- at times
The Movielife
My Chemical Romance <--- at times
Piebald
The Receiving End of Sirens
Rilo Kiley
Rufio
Saosin
Saves the Day
Straylight Run
Taking Back Sunday <--- both the old (Shaun Cooper) and new (Matt Rubano) bassists...Rubano graduated from Berklee, too, so shut up.
Thrice
Thursday

So yeah, there's a few of the many good "emo" bassits...look, I'll even do certain song reccomendations:

Rufio:
Still
One Slowdance
Above Me (listen to the runs at the end of the song)

Cursive:
The Martyr
Fairytales Tell Tales
The Recluse

The Decemberists:
Sixteen Military Wives
The Song of the Mariner's Revenge

Emery:
Disguising Mistakes With Goodbyes
The Ponytail Parade

Fear Before the March of Flames:
Sarah Goldfarb, Where Are Your Manners?
The 20th Century Was Entirely Mine
Given to Dreams
Go Wash Your Mouth...I Don't Know Where It's Been
On the Bright Side, She Could Choke
Should Have Stayed in the Shadows
The State of Texas vs. Fear Before

From First to Last:
Note to Self
Kiss Me, I'm Contagious
Secrets Don't Make Friends
Ride the Wings of Pestilence

Funeral for a Friend:
Juneau
She Drove Me to Daytime TV

Gym Class Heroes:
Makeout Club
Paper Cuts
Pillmatic
Taxi Driver

Matchbook Romance:
Promise
If All Else Fails

Minus the Bear:
Pony Up
Hey, Wanna Throw Up? Get Me Naked...
Drop It Like It's Hot
Monkey!!! Knife!!! Fight!!!
Thanks for the Killer Game of Crisco Twister
Absinthe Party at the Fly Honey Warehouse
Let's Play Guitar in a 5 Guitar Band

Piebald:
The Benefits of Ice Cream
Haven't Tried It
Part of Your Body is Made Out of Rock

Rufio:
Still
Above Me
One Slow Dance
She Cries

Saves the Day:
Rocks, Tonic, Juice, Magic
The Last Lie I Told
My Sweet Fracture
Through Being Cool

Taking Back Sunday:
Old Bassist Shaun Cooper
Cute Without the E (Cut From the Team)
Great Romance of the 20th Century
You're So Last Summer
No "I' in Team
Timberwolves at New Jersey
New Bassist Matt Rubano (Berklee graduate who also played bass on Lauren Hill's album
Set Phasers To Stun
A Decade Under the Influence
This Photograph is Proof
The Union
I am Fred Astaire
One-Eighty By Summer
Little Devotional

Thrice:
Paper Tigers
In Years to Come
Identity Crisis
Deadbolt
The Artist in the Ambulance

Thursday:
Cross Out the Eyes
Jet Black New Year
Division Street
Understanding in a Car Crash
Paris in Flames
Tomorrow I'll Be You
I Am the Killer

Please note that most of those bands are not truly "emo" in the ACTUAL sense of the word but are in the pop-cultural sense and commonly depicted sense. :thumb:

Also, a brief word on emo:



:thumb:

-Gav

curisves BASSIST plays a fender jazz, there CELLOIST plays a yamaha electric cello.
emerys bassist is terrible, faint isnt emo, rilo kiley is indie not emo, haha straylight run, thursdays bass player is terrible *totally wishes he had his spot*
They have both an electric bass and a cello...Cursive is one incredibly talented band if you're into slow indie like that.

:thumb:

-Gav
uhhh they arent slow, they definitley have some upbeat stuff, having all of their albums i can definitley tell you they do some upbeat heavier stuff
Oh, yeah. I bloody love Cursive. I was really sad to hear that Gretta left, because I thought that The Ugly Organ was an amazing album.

Edit: The Burst and Bloom EP, also.
domestica is also really good, all of their other albums are good as well, but domestica, ugly organ, burst and bloom are my top 3.
hahaha yes yes!

to be honest man "emo bassists" wtf???? dude I will say it time and time again and look at what i look like, I aint emo! I have long hair doesnt make me emo. All music is emo, because all music should be played and sung with emotion... meh Just play how you feel and what fits with the music. To be honest I dont know what you guys are going for so I can't give you any references. Definitly dont go off that pop punk / rock stuff they have on MTV that is the worst oh man THE worst.

To be honest if you want a good example if heart felt music sung and played with emotion. Hopesfall. OLD stuff this is "the satellite years" and there ep "no wings to speak of" A song that really kills me is Dana Walker the end part is instrumental but great alot of there songs have that in it and its just great sung and played with emotion man.

For the sake of your band I wouldn't keep it restricted to a genre, you guys need to find YOUR sound, that can be a mix of things and quite unique which makes a band great. Play what you feel is right and a good mix to the music. Just dont classify your band as emo.

and ill say it time and time again, you could stop trying to figure out why its called emo....and just go with it.
Yeah, mine comes and goes...at times it's very "George from Alexisonfire" type and others it's just...eh, well...I need to build up my endurance. :lol:

:thumb:

-Gav
you heard my scream, very anah aeviah.....and i dont even like them =P
With my old band, My guitarist was our screamer and a **** good one we couldnt afford him to soley just give up and do screaming and sacrifice playing. So I attempted to and Although I considered my voice to be quite nice and at the time so did they we got a second mic and through the PA I sounded pretty ****ty so I gave up. Nothing like a bad screamer / singer to kill the rest of the sound. Plus I dont know how people scream or sing for whole sets and come out with a perfect voice. Id loose mine after 1 song.
the inhale scream > the exhale scream.

inhaling doesnt eat up your voice, you can be just as loud, and you have more control.

i tried doing exhale screams for awhile, then i found inahling is way cooler.
congratulations- you are now a grade "A" retard
wow, you truly are amazing. your post has single handedly altered my view on life.





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if you read all this, wow

[Keepitcoolidge]

pff you emo elitist, rufio is not emo, HH is bad emo, and you know you like the tbs.
Circle takes the squre and the number 12 looks like arent screamo, they are grindcore.
im not sure how SKSK is popular =P i definitley showed them to you, and no one listens to them anyway.


curisves BASSIST plays a fender jazz, there CELLOIST plays a yamaha electric cello.
emerys bassist is terrible, faint isnt emo, rilo kiley is indie not emo, haha straylight run, thursdays bass player is terrible *totally wishes he had his spot*

uhhh they arent slow, they definitley have some upbeat stuff, having all of their albums i can definitley tell you they do some upbeat heavier stuff

domestica is also really good, all of their other albums are good as well, but domestica, ugly organ, burst and bloom are my top 3.


and ill say it time and time again, you could stop trying to figure out why its called emo....and just go with it.

you heard my scream, very anah aeviah.....and i dont even like them =P

the inhale scream > the exhale scream.

inhaling doesnt eat up your voice, you can be just as loud, and you have more control.

i tried doing exhale screams for awhile, then i found inahling is way cooler.

wow, you truly are amazing. your post has single handedly altered my view on life.





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if you read all this, wow

Glad to hear it! I occaisionally do that from time to time! ;)

[tomtom]

i heard from a mate that the lead singer from My Chemical has Scurvy, and covers black blotches under he's eye's with make-up.






i later heard that this was in-correct, but i had a good laugh.

[peeted]

who gives a **** what "true" emo is, we all know what he means.

[Tim_Tabasco]

i hate ppl who fit the emo stereotype...

listen to The Used.. (Im a fake, Cut up Angels, I caught Fire)

i like their bassplaying.. dont know if its complex, hard or whatsoever... (and i dont care either)

[peeted]

oo iv rememberd another emoish band with a good bassist. emanuel (not shure if they actualy are emo or not, there quite good tho and iv heard people say there emo)

[Deacy]

"The Ides of March" - Silverstein
I'm guessing that has nothing to do with the instrumental by Iron Maiden :p

[bottlerocket]

congratulations- you are now a grade "A" retard

Yes, because we are "retarded" for liking a genre of music and having opinions and preference...oh no! :rolleyes:

You...you're silly...no really...you're a funny one. ;)

If you don't like emo that's fine, but why insult us for it?

:thumb:

-Gav

[Riouken]

Emo is characterized by passionate lyrics, heartfelt guitar, melodic leads, and deep emotion in the music, usually despair or some other such emotion.


Oh Gav me lad you know my opinion on that.


BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY IS EMO FOR CHRISTSAKE!!!


Sorry about that. Let the battle of the genres begin if you want. But please understand my point of view!! Gav is the only one who does right now :(

[jakoop]

Ive just joined a emo band and was wonderin what kinda music i should listen to to get a feel for emo music. also, do emo bassists downtune or what? what emo songs have good basslines. the rest of the band is mainly into bullet fro my valentine and funeral for a friend

first of all. quit the band

second. join a better band that plays good music, and doesnt sing about breaking up with their girlfriends and wanting to kill themselves

and thirdly. emo blows :thumb:

[LewsTherin]

first of all. quit the band

second. join a better band that plays good music, and doesnt sing about breaking up with their girlfriends and wanting to kill themselves

and thirdly. emo blows :thumb:

a) no.

b) better band that plays good music? wtf? try being open minded, you dick. have you ever even heard a "real" emo band? Or are you just basing your opinion on bands like Hawthorne Heights? And have you ever listened to Rites of Spring, *the* emo band? Oh, and do you run around bashing the blues, because a common topic is getting dumped there, too?

c) no.

[peeted]

"Emo is characterized by passionate lyrics, heartfelt guitar, melodic leads, and deep emotion in the music, usually despair or some other such emotion."

that is not an acurate way to define a genre at all. every single thing in there is subjective, any piece of music with guitar and vocals could be described as that by one person or another. if this topic realy has to turn into an argument about what emo is can someone at least define the genre properley.

[LewsTherin]

"Emo is characterized by passionate lyrics, heartfelt guitar, melodic leads, and deep emotion in the music, usually despair or some other such emotion."

that is not an acurate way to define a genre at all. every single thing in there is subjective, any piece of music with guitar and vocals could be described as that by one person or another. if this topic realy has to turn into an argument about what emo is can someone at least define the genre properley.

i think we have to remember that emo has its roots in hardcore.

[peeted]

i know thatwhat I woudl call emo is slightley less complex post-hardcore with annoying vocals but i dont recon thats the most acurate definition ever.

[Anxious]

I will say that the bassist from Taking Back Sunday (they're emo right?) Matt Rubano is a great bassist. He worships at the temple of James Jamerson which gets him an A+ in my book.
No they arent.


The threadstarter should listen to Rites of Spring (good basslines, good music in general), Embrace (same), I hate Myself, and Antioch Arrow.

[Deacy]

Oh Gav me lad you know my opinion on that.


BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY IS EMO FOR CHRISTSAKE!!!


Sorry about that. Let the battle of the genres begin if you want. But please understand my point of view!! Gav is the only one who does right now :(
Freddie Mercury has the greatest voice in music ever, not to mention the guitar solo is pwnage. And what typical emo song has operatic vocal harmonies?

[Anakin Skywalker]

"Emo is characterized by passionate lyrics, heartfelt guitar, melodic leads, and deep emotion in the music, usually despair or some other such emotion."

that is not an acurate way to define a genre at all. every single thing in there is subjective, any piece of music with guitar and vocals could be described as that by one person or another. if this topic realy has to turn into an argument about what emo is can someone at least define the genre properley.


Gav and I already established what real emo is a page back.

No they arent.


The threadstarter should listen to Rites of Spring (good basslines, good music in general), Embrace (same), I hate Myself, and Antioch Arrow.

Exactly.

[Riouken]

Freddie Mercury has the greatest voice in music ever, not to mention the guitar solo is pwnage. And what typical emo song has operatic vocal harmonies?
You've missed my point entirely.

[willibassist]

woah this turned into a battle of the genres, to everyone who said quit the band and emo blows, no. there a decent and crappy bands in every genre. ours is gonna be a god one hopefully. thanks gav for the list of bands

[PaulR]

woah this turned into a battle of the genres, to everyone who said quit the band and emo blows, no. there a decent and crappy bands in every genre. ours is gonna be a god one hopefully. thanks gav for the list of bands
Well said m'boy.

*claps*

[the101er]

hahaha, pic time


http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b98/the101er/hottnessemokiss.jpg

Will, this is what you're gonna become, REPENT

[fatbandit]

Is that the guitarist/keyboardist in Good Charlotte...?

:amaze:

:smash:

[Riouken]

The one on the left cleary doesn't want to kiss at all.

[the101er]

Is that the guitarist/keyboardist in Good Charlotte...?

:amaze:

:smash:

im not sure, all emo kids look the same...

[Merridew]

Brand New is pretty emotional and i like thier bassist's line in "okay i believe you but my tommy gun don't"

[Left Shoe]

Brand New is pretty emotional and i like thier bassist's line in "okay i believe you but my tommy gun don't"
if you are going with brand new might as well go with Sic Transit Gloria as their bass anthem

[Thonk]

listen to taking back sunday and coheed.
Meh. I don't really like TBS's new stuff. Their older is stuff is pretty delightful, and when did anyone classify coheed as emo? Threadstarter: Check emery out if you haven't already. I don't know if they'd be classified as emo, but they are indeed a pretty good band.

[fatbandit]

Is that the one with the video where everyone copies him?

Its an alright song, and I guess the bass would be better if it was more active. It plods along nicely at first, but doesn't change it up enough to stay good :/

:smash:

[Thonk]

i know thatwhat I woudl call emo is slightley less complex post-hardcore with annoying vocals but i dont recon thats the most acurate definition ever.
Wtf is post-hardcore?!?

[the101er]

emo basically

[Left Shoe]

Wtf is post-hardcore?!?
post meaning after, hardcore , genre of music. think thursday

[Left Shoe]

emo basically
....why are you in this thread? you dont like the genre, you dont know anyhting about it, and your jokes are lame. are you looking for postcount? we have a casual thread.

[bryce_the_cat]

im not sure, all "emo" trendsters kids look the same...

:thumb:

[Thonk]

post meaning after, hardcore , genre of music. think thursday
Ok, thanks Phil. Mmm Thursday. :p

[the101er]

....why are you in this thread? you dont like the genre, you dont know anyhting about it, and your jokes are lame. are you looking for postcount? we have a casual thread.

:lol: Did i ever say i didnt like emo? Nope. I expressed my opinion on the look of emo people. I hardly dissed the genre, just the look

:rolleyes:

don't get so worked up about it, i was joking about it with Will earlier

[Wow]

"Emo is characterized by passionate lyrics, heartfelt guitar, melodic leads, and deep emotion in the music, usually despair or some other such emotion."

that is not an acurate way to define a genre at all. every single thing in there is subjective, any piece of music with guitar and vocals could be described as that by one person or another. if this topic realy has to turn into an argument about what emo is can someone at least define the genre properley.


No. Emo was started by bands like Moss Icon and Rites of Spring who found straight up hardcore to be restraining and added more emotional and artistic aspects to the music. Emo is "emotional hardcore."


Yay for people being ignorant. :D


Edit: For emo with good basslines check the song "Postlapsaria" by Saetia.

[Wintermute]

Please don't bump up old threads. :thumb: