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SalientArbiter
09-23-2005, 08:10 PM
I will be buying the nintendo Revolution over the other next-gen systems coming out. Before you all start flaming me, think about what video games are supposed to offer you in the form of entertainment. A way to get away from reality is what it boils down to. So why just buy a new and better version of something that you're still just pressing buttons and looking at a screen? However much I love Halo and Splinter Cell to death, I respect real innovation more, and a motion sensitive controller combined with the innovative games that it will surely be coupled with is better than any great franchise, simply because it's a new experience.
When that hoax about the revolution being a virtual reality helmet was around a few months ago, I nearly wet myself in anticipation. Think about it folks, after this level of innovation and naturality with the controller, what will the next-next-gen consoles be like if they continue this type of innovation with the user interface? The only frontier left untraveled is true virtual reality on the scale of the nintendo revolution hoax.
So yeah, that wasn't so coherent, but by buying the nintendo revolution you'll be showing the corporations with huge power and influence over the game franchises that you love, like splinter cell, halo, and MSG, and even new revolutionary PC designers, that you value new innovations, and help the day come sooner where what you do in real life translates directly onto your retinas in an alternate reality.
Otherside
09-23-2005, 08:14 PM
You cannot speak for everyone about what they want in a console, and I'm almost sure that not everyone plays videogames as a "release from reality".
I personally will be gettin a ps3, because I'd rather play new franchises than the 58th edition of Mario, or the 32nd edition of Zelda, or the 14th edition of Metroid Prime. If Nintendo would get serious about making new games, I might support them more, but I hate how they rehash their franchises every generation. Not to mention the shear power behind the ps3 is astounding. Now if the would only fix that controller..
The Zelda series are always, always solid, though. It'd be one thing if all the games were characteristically terrible, but in terms of Zelda, that's not the case.
vash_the_stampede
09-23-2005, 08:16 PM
The Zelda series are always, always solid, though. It'd be one thing if all the games were characteristically terrible, but in terms of Zelda, that's not the case.
oh yes, zelda owns
Evil Peavey
09-23-2005, 08:17 PM
I will be buying a Revolution. :thumb:
As well as a 360 (It's paid for, not long until I can pick it up:)) and PS3.
SalientArbiter
09-23-2005, 08:17 PM
You cannot speak for everyone about what they want in a console, and I'm almost sure that not everyone plays videogames as a "release from reality".
I personally will be gettin a ps3, because I'd rather play new franchises than the 58th edition of Mario, or the 32nd edition of Zelda, or the 14th edition of Metroid Prime. If Nintendo would get serious about making new games, I might support them more, but I hate how they rehash their franchises every generation. Not to mention the shear power behind the ps3 is astounding. Now if the would only fix that controller..
No but that's the thing, with a new interface like this new games will surely be made to optimize it. The only new edition that is certain for the revolution is a new version of super smash, and that will be worth a rebirth alone because of the greatness of the controller's role in it. Maybe as a release from reality is a little over the top, but then why bother with more realistic graphics? That's all that the 360 and ps3 are doing. The revolution is changing the entire way of playing videogames, which if it gets off on the right foot will pave the way for the graphics unoriginal powerhouses like microsoft and sony to make it better. We need to support new ideas so that the whole industry follows suit.
Otherside
09-23-2005, 08:17 PM
The thing is, though, that the Zelda series are always, always solid.
http://membres.lycos.fr/darklink16/cdi1-4.jpg
http://www.kasuto.net/image/cdizelda/zeldasadventure.jpg
Not quite always. And I've liked the previous Zelda games, but I just don't think Nintendo should rely on their mega-franchises like they do. Instead, I wish they would concentrate on funding new games that are new and innovative.
Otherside
09-23-2005, 08:20 PM
No but that's the thing, with a new interface like this new games will surely be made to optimize it. The only new edition that is certain for the revolution is a new version of super smash, and that will be worth a rebirth alone because of the greatness of the controller's role in it. Maybe as a release from reality is a little over the top, but then why bother with more realistic graphics? That's all that the 360 and ps3 are doing. The revolution is changing the entire way of playing videogames, which if it gets off on the right foot will pave the way for the graphics unoriginal powerhouses like microsoft and sony to make it better. We need to support new ideas so that the whole industry follows suit.
Just because the consoles arn't drastically changing doesn't mean that the games are uninispired and boring. The new technology in the ps3 will allow game developers freedom like they've never had before. Personally, when choosing a console, I don't reallly care about the console itself, but rather the planned releases and the companies backing it. I can only imagine the amazing things that Konami and Square-Enix will be able to do with this new hardware.
Hahaha, whoa, what an awful-looking Zelda game.
Hell, I don't even recognize that game.
I was going from Link to the Past on SNES, through the N64 series, up to Wind Waker.
Otherside
09-23-2005, 08:25 PM
Heh, that's the horribly done Philips CD-i game. It flunked basically before it was even released. And I know that the majority of Zelda games are awesome, but there hasn't really been any innovation since OOT. You still travel a large map, going through dungeons in which you fight a miniboss to get a "new" gadget(that probably came from the previous games) that enables you to progress through the rest of the level and defeat the final boss. Whether that large map is by ocean or on the back of horse, there is still not that large of difference.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, I'm looking for innovation in the next generation of games, and as of now, the ps3 best suits that.
SalientArbiter
09-23-2005, 08:49 PM
I guess what I'm trying to say is, I'm looking for innovation in the next generation of games, and as of now, the ps3 best suits that.
but why do you think simply more powerful software enables more innovation? Maybe that's the wrong word to use for your case, innovation comes from a completely different view of playing video games, which shall come from the nintendo revolution. The ps3 and 360 are simply building on existing concepts.
slack
09-23-2005, 09:02 PM
I am not buying a next-gen console because I have a love-affair with a controller. And I'm not sure where people get this idea that every generation, consoles should reinvent the wheel. Want to know why console controllers haven't changed all that much? Because the design works. There's been some tweaks along the way, but that's about it.
People like to say that the Revolution controller has endless potential, and I agree. It does. But that doesn't mean the potential will be realized. And until it is, this controller is just a gimmick.
Games are, and will always be, the most important factor. And unless Nintendo releases a game exclusively about sword-fighting, I do not foresee Nintendo developers coding animations so players can swing their remote-controllers a hundred different ways like pretend swords.
You will not see total freedom of movement in games unless that is the explicit purpose. You're not going to see it in RPGs, for example, because the story is what matters, as well as items, spells, etc.
And despite what anyone says, this "Revolution" does not look comfortable to hold, whether it's at an angle on your lap or in mid-air. It's not something like a mouse where it's on a desk so that your hand can rest comfortably on it.
Otherside
09-23-2005, 09:57 PM
but why do you think simply more powerful software enables more innovation? Maybe that's the wrong word to use for your case, innovation comes from a completely different view of playing video games, which shall come from the nintendo revolution. The ps3 and 360 are simply building on existing concepts.
You can't say with 100% assuredness that the new controller will redifine gaming. I still don't believe that most 3rd party software developers will be very happy with it, and will not be able to bring out its full potential. I do know that 3rd party companies will love the amazing new hardware that is comming out. Before, they were limited to old technology, but this allows them to expand so much more. I whole heartily believe that the most inovation will come from the PS3, not the Revolution.
Zakath
09-23-2005, 10:30 PM
hey this is kind of like that next-gen console thread
Sebek
09-23-2005, 10:35 PM
Hahaha, whoa, what an awful-looking Zelda game.
Hell, I don't even recognize that game.
I was going from Link to the Past on SNES, through the N64 series, up to Wind Waker.
It was a game that you played on something like a DVD player.
Let me assure you it sucked.
Personally I'd love to get the Revolution, and my little brother is going to split the cost fot eh PS3 with me :) .
RyMac59
09-23-2005, 10:39 PM
http://cube.ign.com/articles/653/653555p1.html
i didnt realize revolution wasnt the final name. they put it on all the prototype systems so i thought it was. i think i like it being called the revolution. i hope they dont give it some gay new name
Let's Chop Cats!
09-24-2005, 12:03 AM
hey this is kind of like that next-gen console thread
Yup.
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