Water Cooling vs. Ventilation

[Turkish]

I've been having some troubles with my processor overheating. Right now I'm using a jet 4 heatsink with a Thermaltake Xaser V case. I have a 420w powersupply with a tangle of cords. I have seven fans in my case right now but I dont' think I'm getting proper ventilation because my processor is running at about 60 degrees celcius. Do you guys think that I should just try to clean up the cords (which I've tried) to get proper ventilation. Or do you guys think I should go with Water cooling for efficiency.

The only downside that I can see to Watercooling is that if a pipe busts....well I'm pretty much ****ed. I had a friend who tried but was a dumbass and didn't put the solution in so that mold wouldn't grow in his pipes.

I know water cooling cools a lot better and is way quieter, but I don't wanna run the risk of screwing my computer up.

here's the cpu fan I'm using.

http://www.frostytech.com/articleimages/200404/cmjet4_pspc.jpg

and here's the case that I'm using.

http://images.tigerdirect.ca/SKUimages/medium/T925-2016.jpg

The case is nice for ventilation, I'm just having trouble doing so. What do you guys think?

[Yppolitia]

I love the case and the fan dude, very sleak.

Id probably go with Water Cooling even though the risk of messing up your computer.

[Happy]

Water cooling for your computer? Wow, never heard of that. I'd give it a try.

[Amit]

heh i have the same exact case

so many cables and wires :(

just get a better heatsink

i use a SLK-947U + Panaflo for my overclocked AMD 2500 mobile

[Crapdragoon]

Actually, the problem is you have to many fans, and its just blowing and sucking air everywich way, or atleast thats what someone told me once about there own setup

you gotta have a good intake and exahust cycle~

[Turkish]

heh i have the same exact case

so many cables and wires :(

just get a better heatsink

i use a SLK-947U + Panaflo for my overclocked AMD 2500 mobile


I was gonna go with the heatsink that you use, but I saw the other and got it. At first it was cooling ok, but recently been having some troubles with it.

I love the case and the fan dude, very sleak.

Id probably go with Water Cooling even though the risk of messing up your computer.

I want to upgrade, but I've spent a lot of money and time on building this comp and I don't want to screw it up :( Gonna have to get some help on this with some of my other friends who have installed this kind of equipment before?


Any precautions you guys recommend me taking if I do decide to use water cooling for my cpu?

[Chanandler Bong]

Is your pc located inside of a desk? I had similar troubles and all I did was place my pc on my desktop.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

I don't know how your fans are setup but you want the highier up fans blowing out the hot air and the lower down fans sucking in the cold. You can always try a case mod and put a blowhole w/ a fan blowing out assuming you have proper ventilation.

Water cooling is good if you have the time/money. I've never done water cooling so I can't comment on how easy/hard it would be, but water cooling if done right is always better than air.

[BigTrav415]

Use both. Iw ould if I had the money. It has both pro's and no con's, since they balance each other. Right now I'm just using a fan though.

[GiB]

I want to do water cooling but it's expensive. Anyone who has it - Is it worth it?

[Interstate]

Water cooling is probably the better option, it works better and creates a hell of alot less noise then the fan.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Aslong as you have the know how I'd go water.

Right now the temp's outside just dropped, so I opened my windows in my room and that in turn lowered my PC temps. My motherboard and processor temps drop 5 degrees

[Kithkin]

Use both. Iw ould if I had the money. It has both pro's and no con's, since they balance each other. Right now I'm just using a fan though.

Are you retarded? The only con of watercooling is that it might break and explode your pc. How does having fans in your computer help with that?


To the op. How are the fans set up in your computer? Are you overclocking? You probably don't need water cooling.

[Rats]

You should have 1 fan each on the front and side blowing cool air inside, 2 or 3 fans on the back (including the power supply) blowing the hot air out, 1 fan on the CPU, and 1 on the video card GPU.

[Phalanx]

Water cooling can be tricky to install but if you take your time, the rewards are very welcoming. For instance, you not only have a more efficient way of removing heat from the processor but you also have a quieter system. If you use water that doesn't conduct electricity, a leak won't damage anything and if you have a window (which if im right, the Xaser III should have) then with some UV dye, it can look very geeky indeed.
the only downside is you have to replace the fluid every once in a while

[Turkish]

Are you retarded? The only con of watercooling is that it might break and explode your pc. How does having fans in your computer help with that?


To the op. How are the fans set up in your computer? Are you overclocking? You probably don't need water cooling.


I'm not overclocking, but (and I think Eggo might relate to this) is that the power supply they sent with the case has an *** load of cords, not to mention my cpu temp monitor+fan controller. I have five fans in the case right now, the two on the side sucking in air because they sit right over my cpu fan. The back and the top fan taking out air. And I have on fan in front that's taking in air that sits right next to my hdd's.

I'm thinking the problem is all the cords from my power supply, I've tried tying them up, but you can't get around them!

[1-D]

I would go with water cooling,

[GiB]

Hmmm I wonder
watd happen if somehow ur water cooling froze.

[Klown]

Hmmm I wonder
watd happen if somehow ur water cooling froze.
Your PC would shut down until the processor was cool enough.

I was sure that running your processor at 60 degrees was fine, well within the manufacturers recommended temperature limits.

[Kithkin]

A) Homicidal Klown is right, 60 degrees isn't too much to worry about. It shouldn't be running that hot, but it won't burn out at that temperature.

B) On the other hand, since you aren't overclocking, you shouldn't be running at 60 degrees. Something is wrong. My guess would be that either the heat sink or your processor fan has something wrong with it.

C) 7 fans is simply too much. I have 5 in mine, but two of them are small and part of an exhaust bay drive (Ie, it fits into where you would have a cd rom). There is absolutly no reason to have 7 fans in your computer. All they are doing is drawing more power, making your power supply work harder and probably generating more heat than they can expell.

Set it up this way. Your fans on either the side or the back should be blowing in. The fans on the front or top should be blowing out. You shouldn't have more than 4 case fans and you probably don't need any more than 2.

D) Switch from flat ide cables to round ones. Thats the simplest way to improve vehntilation.

E) Wrap all excess cables and stick them somewhere where they don't block the air. Either all at the top (if you don't have a fan sticking out the top) or in one of the upper bays.

F) Make sure there is at least a foot of room between your case and a wall on any side that has a fan.

[Kithkin]

Hmmm I wonder
watd happen if somehow ur water cooling froze.

The pump would short out. But if it was cold enough to freeze running water, the processor would probably be ok.

[Turkish]

Thanks a lot Kithkin, I apprieciate the help.

[Damrod]

If you think your CPU is running too hot, try to place your case somewhere else. If the hot air gets 'stuck' behind your case and a wall, or in a box (if it's in a closed spot under your desk). Had that problem, and since I placed my computer somewhere else, it's working much better

[g°®†]

Water cooling for your computer? Wow, never heard of that. I'd give it a try.


variation of what you said "A shot of water with some gasoline to chase it? Wow, never heard of that. I'd give it a try."



lol


Don't use something you've never heard of without first researching the ups and downs.

[Turkish]

If you think your CPU is running too hot, try to place your case somewhere else. If the hot air gets 'stuck' behind your case and a wall, or in a box (if it's in a closed spot under your desk). Had that problem, and since I placed my computer somewhere else, it's working much better


yeah I thought that might have been it, but I've moved since then...I live in a dorm room and my computer is out in the open away from the wall...and it still gets too hot.

[Mongo]

I gots a Thermaltake Tsunami Dream.
I would advise to clear up the wires or if
you cant be bothered / dont know how
get someone else to do it, and then water cool it. Adding water cooling atm will just make ur case more cluttered and messy.