Revolution controller revealed at last

[LeperAffinity]

http://cube.ign.com/

It looks...quite different from what I expected. But I won't judge until I get to actually use it.

[Mambuto_O'Mally]

YOu know how we look back and laugh and say, "what were they thinking?" Well, I'm saying that now and laughing histerically. What the hell is that thing? I mean are they just asking people to not buy their product? That is the stupidest things ever.

[FlyingPaul_83]

looks like a remote


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[Zakath]

I wasn't going to buy a Revolution anyway.

[Mister_Che]

Nintendo has always been one to try new ideas, but this might be one thing that will put off alot of gamers.

[LeperAffinity]

I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt here...Nintendo has yet to let me down. I can imagine a year from now, everyone being in love with the design, wondering how they lived without it. At least, that's how I hope it turns out.

[Cybergasm]

Looks cool.

[Ugoff]

That looks awesome, but I don't know if it's going to be very practical. I like to have everything within a thumbs reach.

[thedeadwalk!]

It seems like the three action buttons are insanely hard to operate coherently. It also has qualities of the Colecovision controller, except split in two.

It just doesn't look too functional.

[(*The Noonward Race*)]

That looks really nice, I wanna try it out.

[man_with_bass]

wow, I need to check this thing out,looks weird.

[Kif]

This is their "revolution"? Jesus, Nintendo have officially lost their minds

[Amorpha]

I love it

[Jonny]

Should be good for FPS's. You can move stuff by tilting the remote.

Like aiming a gun or swinging a sword.

[TojesDolan]

Alright, I'll just say it the way it should be said... WHERE THE **** ARE THE REST OF THE BUTTONS!

There's only A. and B. and a big *** A. It's apocalypse people.

I mean, it's old school, sure... but why in the Lord's land is it so... strange?

I won't judge until I see it in action, as well as the games that will come ut with that... thing. But hell, it's way to japanese for my taste, Nintendo has surprised me yet again.

EDIT: I see a big B in the rear of the controller as well. To explain what I didn't understand, some quotes for the lazy. :)

The Revolution's main peripheral, shaped like a stylized remote control, acts like a quasi-virtual wand. Motion sensors packed with the unit are placed atop the player's television screen and the device's every movement is ready and interpreted in the games. The pointer, as we've dubbed it, can influence positioning, targeting, depth and motion in Revolution software. Meanwhile, secondary attachments such as an analog stick can be plugged in for added functionality in tomorrow's hit Nintendo titles.

Anyhow, I don't really think the developers will be interested in developing here. Sure it's reall cool, sure it's innovative, but really... Is a programmer going to take all the mechanics they have set for all the games, for two other consoles that will likely have regular stuff, and re-do them just for one console? I don't think so,.

There's already a problem with the DS, as the second screen is only used for maps and such, and only developed big time by a few Companies.

Nintendo is going to innovate, sure, but it's going to be a pain in the rear to convince the whole industry that what they want is right. I'm sad for them, you know, this could've been great, but they are just trying to drum to their own beat. :(

[Jonny]

http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651224p1.html
Read this. It sounds much better afterwards.

[Amorpha]

Needless to say, I asked a few friends about and they said "lol it looks like a tv controller" and didn't even read about the gyro functions of it.

[Jonny]

Needless to say, I asked a few friends about and they said "lol it looks like a tv controller" and didn't even read about the gyro functions of it.
People are so close minded. Looks to me like rev could be the best console for FPS's. It's like having a light gun.

[Ramsey]

I've seen it already, and read up on it.


When I saw it, I literally went "What the ****."

Well, I might as well put my money where my mouth is, becuase i'm spending that money on a Revolution---I read up on the controllers actual functions---i'm entirely sold. I want a revolution NOW.


**** the other consoles. If anything this will WIN Nintendo Mature support because of the controls. I bet you more M rated games will come out on the console just beause of this control. You just wait and see.

[Ramsey]

Anyhow, I don't really think the developers will be interested in developing here. Sure it's reall cool, sure it's innovative, but really... Is a programmer going to take all the mechanics they have set for all the games, for two other consoles that will likely have regular stuff, and re-do them just for one console? I don't think so,. You are very wrong if you do not think this is the case

Developers are BORED. The gaming industry is getting stale---exactly what the film industry is beginning to get. This is an entirely fresh concept, fresh ideas and a new outlook on gaming. Developers are people who are just WAITNING for a chance to lunge on an oppurtunity. Its exactly what they are look for.

I'm not talking about Publishers---publishers are companies that don't care about the consoles as long as they make a killing on selling the games. SO, developers get to do all the dirty work---developing the games. THey are usually very creative people and want something new. The revolutions controller opens up 10s if not HUNDREDS of possibilities.

The only think Nintendo needs to do is market it properly. They've got that, then they've got a revolution in gaming. :)

Nintendo is going to innovate, sure, but it's going to be a pain in the rear to convince the whole industry that what they want is right. I'm sad for them, you know, this could've been great, but they are just trying to drum to their own beat. :(

You'll be suprised. Nintendo are geniuses. They've been in the industry and watched companies rise and fall. Trust me they know what they are doing. Its not just another gimmick (its only being called that because its new)

[Jonny]

You are very wrong if you do not think this is the case

Developers are BORED. The gaming industry is getting stale---exactly what the film industry is beginning to get. This is an entirely fresh concept, fresh ideas and a new outlook on gaming. Developers are people who are just WAITNING for a chance to lunge on an oppurtunity. Its exactly what they are look for.

I'm not talking about Publishers---publishers are companies that don't care about the consoles as long as they make a killing on selling the games. SO, developers get to do all the dirty work---developing the games. THey are usually very creative people and want something new. The revolutions controller opens up 10s if not HUNDREDS of possibilities.

The only think Nintendo needs to do is market it properly. They've got that, then they've got a revolution in gaming. :)

Plus the Revo is apparantly going to be much easier and cheaper to develop for.

[Ramsey]

It is, because its based off of Gamecube hardware which is based off of N64 which is close to SNES. Its just more powerful.

[Jonny]

I'm just hoping we get to see the games soon.

[Ramsey]

People are so close minded. Looks to me like rev could be the best console for FPS's. It's like having a light gun.
I think MOST games will be better on the Revolution (precisley why i'd get one).


Imagine Basketball games? Having to dunk the ball into the basket? Football games, or rugby, having to throw the ball at another person? Hell, Imagine racing games. Say you have the controller as a steering wheel---and have the attatchement be a gas pedal rather than an anolog stick? How about Hack and Slash games? You control movement with the analog stick but cut stuff up with the controller, and jump with the "B" button on the controller?

What about games like Silent Scope where you could attatch a scope onto the controller and see zoomed in images? How about Spiderman games where you could shoot Peter Parkers web (lol) in different directions and zoom around the city?

Imagine Resident Evil 5---you're walking in an abandoned warehouse----its pitch dark. All of a sudden ZOMBIE pops out, you drop your controller out of fright---AT THAT MOMENT, on the screen, your gun and flashlight drops.


Imagine drum or piano games. Imagine games where you have to control music with a baton? Imagine games where you could use two controls as rifls and have one person control your movement with an analog stick?


The list is literally ENDLESS. The possibilities are ENDLESS. I came up with this in 15 minutes, if I really put my mind to it, I can think of more things. Revolution will make EVERY game different.



ALL of you are underestimating the amazing potential that this controller posses---it TRULY is a Revolution.



Nintendo, please for gods sake, do this right.

[graymonkey44]

So how are the older games going to work with that controller, since they said you could play older games on it? And I don't really see how "innovative" it is. All they had to do was put motion sensors on the old GC controller and it still would have been fine. It actually looks annoying if you have the analog in one hand and the controller in the other. You need a base for that.

[Chris K]

it looks like crap, but I'll reserve judgment until I try it.

[Jonny]

http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/651/651334/vids_1.html
This is a promo vid for it.

[JohnXDoe]

I like it. It looks well thought out and executed. At first I was like "WTF" because it did look so much like a remote control and seemed to lack buttons. But after reading the article and seeing the photo posted of the toggle/mini joystick attachment, it all started to make sense to me. This thing is cool and it may very well revolutionize the way we play games in the future. As one poster already mentioned, Nintendo has been doing this for a long time. I doubt if they would blow it now.

What I like about this controller is that it would seem to very much connect you with whatever game you are playing. Although it is different it looks to be very user freindly and acclimation should be a snap, as most of us are accustomed to using remote controls of some kind or another. And I don't know about you, but in my house I can operate any remote control with my eyes closed. It's like second nature and I know exactly where every button and knob is. And the well designed ones are comfortable to hold, handle, and operate. Very ergonomic. I think that's what Nintendo was shooting for when they designed this, and I would say they hit the target square. If it functions well and is glitch/bug free, and I have no doubt it will be, the controller arguably being the most importent part of any system for the individual gamer, then I think Nintendo is really on to something here.

It's different, yet familiar. Strange, yet highly functional. And it's design/concept fits in perferctly with the sleek little gaming box it compliments. While Sony and MS have come out with expensive mini computers that play games, Nintendo seems to be saying "look over here. We're back, we're different, and we're all about gaming". Nothing more and nothing less. And cheaper also, with new games and an entire library of great Nintendo games ready for downlowd as well. I think they have done a great job. And this controller completes the package nicely. :)

http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/651/651334/vids_1.html
This is a promo vid for it.
Just watched it. God bless Nintendo.

[Epicurus]

Looks cool but not user friendly

[Otherside]

If they can acutally pull it off, then it will be awesome. However, I have my doubts that they can bring out it's potential, especially 3rd party developers.

[Gnarmageddon]

I think that looks pretty stupid.

[Jonny]

If they can acutally pull it off, then it will be awesome. However, I have my doubts that they can bring out it's potential, especially 3rd party developers.
Actually a lot of 3rd party developers have said they like the controller and want to use it. I think someone from EA said they definately want to take advantage of it with their sports games.

[Kurrpt]

best zakath avatar EVER :thumb:


i like the controller, but i dont think i could play soul calibur with them

[enjoimx]

that thing looks so stupid, nintendo does it again!

yes that avatar is frikin sweat, who is that ?

[Kurrpt]

i dont know, but shes shaved :naughty:

[Understanding In a Crash]

The end of nintendo consoling is here.

[Kurrpt]

and where did you get the idea for this unfounded claim


nintendo has made SOOOOoooo much off of the gameboy, it would take more than 1 failing system to stop them

[Understanding In a Crash]

and where did you get the idea for this unfounded claim


nintendo has made SOOOOoooo much off of the gameboy, it would take more than 1 failing system to stop them
Last time I checked gameboy isn't a console. :thumb:

When your company admits that it cant run with the super powers thats usually an indictment. It'll take time..

[Kurrpt]

Last time I checked gameboy isn't a console. :thumb:




you need to

A. check again

B. look up the definition

[Understanding In a Crash]

you need to

A. check again

B. look up the definition
I don't consider Gameboy a gaming console because when you rack Gameboy up to XBOX, PS, and the Cube it's lacking in size and the standards of being a set cabinent compared to a hand held device.

[Kurrpt]

I don't consider Gameboy a gaming console because when you rack Gameboy up to XBOX, PS, and the Cube it's lacking in size and the standards of being a set cabinent compared to a hand held device.


i personally like my gameboy better than those systems (which i also have)


it appears your comaparing the gameboy to your OWN personal defintion...

none the less, the point i made previously still stands

[Understanding In a Crash]

"Gaming Console"

- Component of central processing system for gaming.
- Past consoles contained two taps for multiplayer and modern day systems have expanded to 4.
- Reads CD/DVD discs or (in the past again) Cartridges
- Set in a cabinent or on the floor in front of a television.
- Contains size but comes in different shapes and forms.
- Computer consoles and Video game consoles will vary in performance and age.
B )

I used to play gameboy color alot :thumb:

[Kurrpt]

B )

I used to play gameboy color alot :thumb:


technically, the sony psp would break that definition...


also, that definition is a bit much

[enjoimx]

yeah well, whatever the stupid crap they do they always have those fanboys or those people who are like " its not stupid its just innovative"

[JohnXDoe]

I don't understand all the resistance to this controller in this thread? If it works well, is perfectly integrated, and seamless in operation, it's obviously brillant. May not be a new mousetrap, but it's certainly a better one. I never really liked the clunky controllers that are used now, anyway. This would seem to be an innovative, practical, and intelligent alternative for the better, IMO.

[Zakath]

I never really liked the clunky controllers that are used now, anyway. This would seem to be an innovative, practical, and intelligent alternative for the better, IMO.
You mean the nicely shaped controllers that your hands fit naturally around? Yea, me neither.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

It looks awesome, good points ramsey.

[JohnXDoe]

You mean the nicely shaped controllers that your hands fit naturally around? Yea, me neither.

No. I mean the blocky, clunky, confining, carpal tunnel syndrome inducing controllers that have plagued us for years. Just because we got used to them doesn't mean they are better. Just means up until now no one has had the imagination or desire to come up with anything different/better. I suppose it didn't suit the bottom line to do so. But Nintendo, with nothing to lose really, has aced this one I think. Only time will tell, but if the Revolution sells well based partly on this controller and the tidy package that it's centered around, I say mission accomplished.

[See you auntie!]

It's about time someone had the guts to try something new. I hope it delivers, and I'm pretty sure it will.

[funluvinhobo]

It looks weird but good. At least Nintendo arent afraid to try somethning different.

[Lionheart1827]

I think MOST games will be better on the Revolution (precisley why i'd get one).


Imagine Basketball games? Having to dunk the ball into the basket? Football games, or rugby, having to throw the ball at another person? Hell, Imagine racing games. Say you have the controller as a steering wheel---and have the attatchement be a gas pedal rather than an anolog stick? How about Hack and Slash games? You control movement with the analog stick but cut stuff up with the controller, and jump with the "B" button on the controller?

What about games like Silent Scope where you could attatch a scope onto the controller and see zoomed in images? How about Spiderman games where you could shoot Peter Parkers web (lol) in different directions and zoom around the city?

Imagine Resident Evil 5---you're walking in an abandoned warehouse----its pitch dark. All of a sudden ZOMBIE pops out, you drop your controller out of fright---AT THAT MOMENT, on the screen, your gun and flashlight drops.


Imagine drum or piano games. Imagine games where you have to control music with a baton? Imagine games where you could use two controls as rifls and have one person control your movement with an analog stick?


The list is literally ENDLESS. The possibilities are ENDLESS. I came up with this in 15 minutes, if I really put my mind to it, I can think of more things. Revolution will make EVERY game different.



ALL of you are underestimating the amazing potential that this controller posses---it TRULY is a Revolution.



Nintendo, please for gods sake, do this right.


I agree with you Rams, all the way. If only the companies listened to our ideas. :upset:

[Kurrpt]

it could be worse


it could be a first generation X BOX controller.....


i call them "fatties"

[Ramsey]

I agree with you Rams, all the way. If only the companies listened to our ideas. :upset:
Dude, EA is implementing all those ideas into their sports games. :)

[Ramsey]

If they can acutally pull it off, then it will be awesome. However, I have my doubts that they can bring out it's potential, especially 3rd party developers.
I would be utterly SHOCKED, and APPALLED if Namco, Capcom, Konami and more didn't take advantage of the controller. I would be SUPRISED if Bioware, Valve, Activision, ID, THQ didn't use its properties for FPS's. best zakath avatar EVER :thumb:


i like the controller, but i dont think i could play soul calibur with them
Look forward, not backwards. :) (not flaming)

that thing looks so stupid, nintendo does it again!
It probably does look stupid, you know what though? I bet you'll change your mind once you actually hold it. The end of nintendo consoling is here.
More like the beginning of a new Generation---IF nintendo does it right. yeah well, whatever the stupid crap they do they always have those fanboys or those people who are like " its not stupid its just innovative"
You're a ****ing moron. Its only a gimmick to you because its something new. Wait until Konami or Capcom makes that one game that EVERYONE needs to get using this controller and you'll probably see it as an industry standard in 10 years.


This is EXACTLY what gaming needs, can't anyone see it? You mean the nicely shaped controllers that your hands fit naturally around? Yea, me neither.
Actually, I think the Revs. controller fits pretty well, since all the reviews on it are praising how good it is. It's about time someone had the guts to try something new. I hope it delivers, and I'm pretty sure it will.
THANK YOU

SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS

[Turkish]

thefux is this???


Gaming never should be one handed IMO


EDIT: Just wondering...how do you think this would revolutionize the scene???


Having a remote control for a controller I think would definitely take some getting used too....which is probably why I'm reluctant to try it.

[guitarded_chuck]

Might be okay, but I don't know.. I was hoping for another uber comfy controller like the Gamecube controllers.

[Turkish]

Don't listen to previous post I finally read Ramsey's


If that's the case....I'll give it more than a glance.

[Ramsey]

thefux is this???


Gaming never should be one handed IMO


EDIT: Just wondering...how do you think this would revolutionize the scene???


Having a remote control for a controller I think would definitely take some getting used too....which is probably why I'm reluctant to try it.
Its not a remote controller, it just looks like one. I mean, its very similar, but its not supposed to really act like one.

[Phalanx]

sounds like it would be incredibly difficult to program games to make use of it

[Ramsey]

Where'd you get that impression? Do you program games for a living?

[Kurrpt]

i programmed for 5 years...

and it wouldnt be any different. The controller has NOTHING to do with the programming......


well it does, but its such a small degree. More of a cut/paste job really

[Ramsey]

Also:

Eurogamer: How is the controller going to work with games that aren't designed specifically for the Revolution - multi-platform titles and so on?

Jim Merrick: We're producing a classic-style expansion controller, based on traditional designs like the Gamecube controller. It's like a shell with a hole in the top into which you slot the freehand-style controller, and then you can play third-party ported games, and retro Nintendo games you've downloaded.

So there's that option - but even while it's inserted into the classic-style shell, the freehand controller will still be able to sense positioning and so on, so there are more options too.

[Ramsey]

i programmed for 5 years...

and it wouldnt be any different. The controller has NOTHING to do with the programming......


well it does, but its such a small degree. More of a cut/paste job really
I know, I was being sarcastic to the person above. I'm majoring in Game Design. Not that I know alot about it or anything (I truly am just a beginner) but I can pretty much know that this would take no effort to program for.

[Kurrpt]

I know, I was being sarcastic to the person above. I'm majoring in Game Design. Not that I know alot about it or anything (I truly am just a beginner) but I can pretty much know that this would take no effort to program for.


well, you're right and wrong at the same time.

Its not like you'd be using C++, or java, but they so many similarities.


i realized you werent talking to me mind you, i was just backing up your objection to his unfounded statement

[Kif]

Personally, I feel this is just another gimmick Nintendo is pulling out to attract more customers. In the end, this is the DS in a home console. It will be the talk for a long time, then it will disappear.

Imagine you're at home playing Zelda on the Revolution. You're waving you remote controll around trying to get him to jump between a certain gap, and you just keep failing.

Imagine sports games, constantly trying to steer your team to the other end of the pitch or court or whatever the hell you are playing.

Imagine shooting a gun on Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon 3 by pointing a remote control at the screen and clicking the A button. Aiming with the infra-red, clicking down on the button to shoot, your other hand bored to misery.

Imagine sending your little animal around the screen with your remote control on Animal Crossing. I mean, it's technically reality TV, right? You are controlling him with an electronc wand.

Imagine playing Super Smash Bros with your mates, all different colour remotes. You are just about to smash the hell out of someone, and your mate starts button-bashing with his one hand? It doesn't sound like it would have the same feel and intensity as driving down on the X or A button on the PS2 or Xbox.

I think the way a 2-handed controller works is much more effiecent. You are gripping with fear, joy, happiness, anticipation. All these emotions you feel when you play certain games are being controlled and sent through you because you are gripping the controller hard and playing the game. If one hand of mine is off the controller, I almost get bored. There's not real fun in playing the game if you can't get caught up in it.

Sure, this is one of the most innovative things I've seen on the video gaming scene, but it's technically an Eye-Toy in your hand. Instead of waving your hand around at the camera, you are waving it around at the TV.

That's just my opinion though. Feel free to disagree (As I'm sure most people will).

[Ramsey]

Imagine you're at home playing Zelda on the Revolution. You're waving you remote controll around trying to get him to jump between a certain gap, and you just keep failing. That would be utterly retarded if it was implemented in Zelda. You're underestimating Miyamoto. This controller is DESIGNED for those types of games, they've even said it. And if i've known Nintendo for long enough, I know they would never create a system where you cannot get over the gap. Zelda games are generally easy to use and Nintendos level designers are extremely intelligent. Go play Metroid, go play older Zeldas, go play mario. The levels are designed in such a way that it is almost ingenius. I seriously doubt Nintendo would make a frustrating game, since they are usually the antithesis of frustration in gaming. They've said it themselves.

Imagine sports games, constantly trying to steer your team to the other end of the pitch or court or whatever the hell you are playing. I didn't even understand this...

Imagine shooting a gun on Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon 3 by pointing a remote control at the screen and clicking the A button. Aiming with the infra-red, clicking down on the button to shoot, your other hand bored to misery.I think you're forgetting the analog stick that comes packaged with every controller.

Imagine sending your little animal around the screen with your remote control on Animal Crossing. I mean, it's technically reality TV, right? You are controlling him with an electronc wand. I think thats pretty awesome. It alows for RTS's and other games to be put on the revolution, rather than a pC.

Imagine playing Super Smash Bros with your mates, all different colour remotes. You are just about to smash the hell out of someone, and your mate starts button-bashing with his one hand? It doesn't sound like it would have the same feel and intensity as driving down on the X or A button on the PS2 or Xbox. It will be two handed, please research more.

I think the way a 2-handed controller works is much more effiecent. You are gripping with fear, joy, happiness, anticipation. All these emotions you feel when you play certain games are being controlled and sent through you because you are gripping the controller hard and playing the game. If one hand of mine is off the controller, I almost get bored. There's not real fun in playing the game if you can't get caught up in it. Thats cool, but I think its null and irrelevant because the analog stick will be used in most games, making it two handed. Also, read the quote above where I quote Eurogamer.

Sure, this is one of the most innovative things I've seen on the video gaming scene, but it's technically an Eye-Toy in your hand. Instead of waving your hand around at the camera, you are waving it around at the TV. This is true, however, I think this will be better implemented.

That's just my opinion though. Feel free to disagree (As I'm sure most people will).
Nah, theres a huge Anti Nintendo fan base on mx.

[Vaporguts]

this will be good for kids

when you learn to play video games you move the controller the way you wanted to go. Now it will work.

[JohnXDoe]

It's brillant, plain and simple. As has been mentioned already, look forward, not backward. Let's not forget who led the way all those years ago with the NES and SNES, and now once again with the Revolution. Nintendo knew what the others had to offer in the power and graphics department and decided they either didn't need or want to match it. So they thought outside the box, so to speak. And what they have come up with is practical, functional, and most of all fun. Games are supposed to be interactive. And this obviously takes interactive to the next level. How many times have we played games with our friends or on our own and found ourselves bending our bodies and tilting our hands and arms and jumping out our seats? Or at least doing some serious leaning in them? This controller will put all that movement to good use and further connect us with the games we play. That's fairly exciting by any standard.

I didn't think I would ever get another console because I like pc gaming. But this controller has me chomping at the bit for a Revolution, and I will be getting one. So that's at least one sale Nintendo has made on account of this controller. I'm sure there will be plenty more.

[Kif]

A lot of those were backed up with the "There's an analog stick" statement. So if that's the case, will this be the revolution you are talking about. Many designers will surely think "It has an analog stick, let's just transport it from Xbox/PS2/PC/Whatever and use that?".

I really think Nintendo hasn't thought this through much. There will be few games which can utilize the "wand" and make it feel good ingame in my opinion.

[Ramsey]

A lot of those were backed up with the "There's an analog stick" statement. So if that's the case, will this be the revolution you are talking about. Many designers will surely think "It has an analog stick, let's just transport it from Xbox/PS2/PC/Whatever and use that?". Actually, this secures Nintendo alot of 3rd party exclusives---something that the Gamecube lacked and the N64 before it. This also secures an untapped market for Nintendo---the Real Time Strategy Market, the First Person Shooter market and the older gamers market.

I'm not sure if developers are thinking about porting it from the other systems to the Revolution, but it sure as hell is enticing, since the Revolution offers the same experience yet more fun.

Honestly, Nintendo is taking the first step into gaming realism. With you able to hold the weapon or item, its the first foray into the VR generation. Good job Nintendo.

I really think Nintendo hasn't thought this through much. There will be few games which can utilize the "wand" and make it feel good ingame in my opinion.
I respect your opinion, but I think its deeply flawed. Read the statements of developers---including the bigwigs at EA and Ubisoft, this is exacrtly what thy are looking for. Read Hideo Kojimas statements about it (Creator of the MGS series) this is EXACTLY what they've wanted for so many years. Read what THQ, Activision, and more have said about that controller. If anything, this controller is one of the best ideas to roll around in forever.

[Kif]

It's brillant, plain and simple. As has been mentioned already, look forward, not backward. Let's not forget who led the way all those years ago with the NES and SNES, and now once again with the Revolution. Nintendo knew what the others had to offer in the power and graphics department and decided they either didn't need or want to match it. So they thought outside the box, so to speak. And what they have come up with is practical, functional, and most of all fun. Games are supposed to be interactive. And this obviously takes interactive to the next level. How many times have we played games with our friends or on our own and found ourselves bending our bodies and tilting our hands and arms and jumping out our seats? Or at least doing some serious leaning in them? This controller will put all that movement to good use and further connect us with the games we play. That's fairly exciting by any standard.
That entire statement seems quite biased. I believe Xbox are leading the way for the gaming scene. They brought forward Xbox Live, which currently has 2 million gamers worldwide. The Xbox 360 is only going to further this service, which I believe is the future for video gaming.

I see your point though. Nintendo are not the kind of company who competes with it's opposition with their own style of play. They like to create newer and more unique ways to gaming. But has it really paid off over the past few years? The N64 did moderately well, considering it's competition at the time. The Revolution pretty much flopped thanks to lack of games the PS2 and Xbox has. The GBA did great in my opinion, but again it's lack of real different games led to the SP being made to try and bring it back, and then the DS.

I'm trying not to sound like an Anti-Nintendo fan, because I respect them for being bold and trying new steps in gaming. But I see them doing a Sega soon and just disappearing to make games.

[TojesDolan]

You are very wrong if you do not think this is the case

Developers are BORED. The gaming industry is getting stale---exactly what the film industry is beginning to get. This is an entirely fresh concept, fresh ideas and a new outlook on gaming. Developers are people who are just WAITNING for a chance to lunge on an oppurtunity. Its exactly what they are look for.

I'm not talking about Publishers---publishers are companies that don't care about the consoles as long as they make a killing on selling the games. SO, developers get to do all the dirty work---developing the games. THey are usually very creative people and want something new. The revolutions controller opens up 10s if not HUNDREDS of possibilities.

The only think Nintendo needs to do is market it properly. They've got that, then they've got a revolution in gaming. :)



You'll be suprised. Nintendo are geniuses. They've been in the industry and watched companies rise and fall. Trust me they know what they are doing. Its not just another gimmick (its only being called that because its new)

Hey Ramsey, it's a pleasure to be in disagreement with you yet again. :D

After I posted that, I still had a little tick bitting my back. I went back to IGN and read all the story, all the articles. I read the particular article where the developers discuss the new controller, and well, they were fascinated. They were very pleased to develop something with that, and the tools they were going to use to develop, let's not talk about the crazy japanese that are always finding ways of getting more inside the games.

At any rate, this is still a dangerous move, because the development tool will have to be different for 2 different console types: the rev, and the other 2. Of course, the power of decision will be on people. If people don't support this, well. The dream is over. Of course I know we're talking about Nintendo here, they about their sh¡t, and they can put it together a year before we're even thikning about it. They surely have it under their wings already, and they must not be concerned about it.

And yes, I can't wait for this to come along. I'm as desperate to see how things will work, and I'm fully supportive of Nintendo this time. Besides, they are into the cheap>power, so this one will be a really sexy system. :D

Always yours, in bad and good arguments.

TojesDolan

P.S. I <3 Nintendo, I was JUST A LITTLE TIRED YESTERDAY AND UNINFORMED. :D

[Zakath]

Actually, I think the Revs. controller fits pretty well, since all the reviews on it are praising how good it is.

Perhaps.

[Ramsey]

At any rate, this is still a dangerous move, because the development tool will have to be different for 2 different console types: the rev, and the other 2. Of course, the power of decision will be on people. If people don't support this, well. The dream is over. Of course I know we're talking about Nintendo here, they about their sh¡t, and they can put it together a year before we're even thikning about it. They surely have it under their wings already, and they must not be concerned about it. OF COURSE ITS A DANGEROUS MOVE! but who will take this risk? Microsoft? Sony? Its about TIME someone did something.

And yes, I can't wait for this to come along. I'm as desperate to see how things will work, and I'm fully supportive of Nintendo this time. Besides, they are into the cheap>power, so this one will be a really sexy system. :D Yes. Thanks for at least reading up on the impressions. Thats what really sold me.

[Ramsey]

Perhaps.
Plus theres going to be an addon for it where you can play traditional fighting games and what not. I think it will be packaged with the Revolution because it would be retarded not to.

So no hope is lost.

[Zakath]

No. I mean the blocky, clunky, confining, carpal tunnel syndrome inducing controllers that have plagued us for years. Just because we got used to them doesn't mean they are better. Just means up until now no one has had the imagination or desire to come up with anything different/better. I suppose it didn't suit the bottom line to do so. But Nintendo, with nothing to lose really, has aced this one I think. Only time will tell, but if the Revolution sells well based partly on this controller and the tidy package that it's centered around, I say mission accomplished.
Do you have tiny hands? The controllers for all three current gen systems perfectly comfortable. The GC controller is a little small but it's still not clunky or confining. And I have no idea what the second half of your paragraph has to do with how it doesn't look like it would be as easy to hold.

[JohnXDoe]

I wanna swat flies with it like they show in the promo video. :)


EDIT: Do you have tiny hands? The controllers for all three current gen systems perfectly comfortable. The GC controller is a little small but it's still not clunky or confining. And I have no idea what the second half of your paragraph has to do with how it doesn't look like it would be as easy to hold.

I actually have very large hands, so those controllers have never felt quite right in them. There is just something about holding something shaped like something I have been using my entire life (a remote control) that sounds natural to me. It sounds comfortable and ergonomically sound. I'm sure it's going to catch on quickly. I think it's very exciting for gaming.

[Zakath]

I actually have very large hands, so those controllers have never felt quite right in them. There is just something about holding something shaped like something I have been using my entire life (a remote control) that sounds natural to me. It sounds comfortable and ergonomically sound. I'm sure it's going to catch on quickly. I think it's very exciting for gaming.
I think you're deformed.

[el doctor]

I think this looks awesome. From what it can do now, to what it will be able to do, it definitely lives up to the name of the system. I'd love to see the accessories thing really catch on though. I mean, imagine if games came with add-ons that provided specific and unique enhancements to that game.

The only problem I can see with this though is already displayed in this thread. People don't want to/can't read - they just look at pictures, so when someone sees a picture of this, they just think "Oh great... a TV remote..." without realizing what the controller actually does.

And remember that this is only a prototype.

[TojesDolan]

Plus theres going to be an addon for it where you can play traditional fighting games and what not. I think it will be packaged with the Revolution because it would be retarded not to.

So no hope is lost.
Considering the size, and what not, peripherals should be cheaper to make than say, a pair of bongos. Therefore, the price won't be higher than 10-15 bucks for a new controller for a different style, so this should work wonders for new add-ons and what not. Especially for the older systems capability thing...

Oh, excitement!

[JohnXDoe]

I think you're deformed.

Yes! You are correct. But only my head, not my hands. :p

[Ramsey]

The only problem I can see with this though is already displayed in this thread. People don't want to/can't read - they just look at pictures, so when someone sees a picture of this, they just think "Oh great... a TV remote..." without realizing what the controller actually does.

And remember that this is only a prototype.
Its true, i've been arguing with nearly everyone in this thread because everyone is so visual. They rely on pictures to tell them anything. They don't bother to go an extra mile and maybe see what the impressions are on the controler, and what the thing actually does and what possibilities has opened.


And I agree, it is so totally awesome.

[el doctor]

Anyhow, I don't really think the developers will be interested in developing here. Sure it's reall cool, sure it's innovative, but really... Is a programmer going to take all the mechanics they have set for all the games, for two other consoles that will likely have regular stuff, and re-do them just for one console? I don't think so,.That's good then, because I'm tired of playing games that are just ports. I'd rather play a unique game on one system than a mundane sequel that's on multiple consoles and handhelds and PC. Plus, if you look through gaming history, most of Nintendo's best games are first party or console exclusive anyway.
OF COURSE ITS A DANGEROUS MOVE! but who will take this risk? Microsoft? Sony? Its about TIME someone did something.
Yes. Thanks for at least reading up on the impressions. Thats what really sold me.That's what really gives me desire to purchase PS3 or Xbox360... they're not doing anything new. They're just improving their systems in the same way that Intel updgrades their processors and ATI or Nvidia beef up their video cards.

As all the articles say, Nintendo has mentioned in the past that they weren't seeking to directly compete with Microsoft and Sony, and just the little bit we know about this controller shows that. I think right now, I think there's very little that separates an Xbox360 and a PS3 so it's great that Nintendo looks to be clearly distinguishing itself among the rest of the crowd.

There is still the matter of hardware and software though.

[thomas is fast]

That made me laugh. What a bad idea.

[Otherside]

I would be utterly SHOCKED, and APPALLED if Namco, Capcom, Konami and more didn't take advantage of the controller. I would be SUPRISED if Bioware, Valve, Activision, ID, THQ didn't use its properties for FPS's.

I'm sure that the big industry names will do amazing things with it, but the lower developers within those companies will almost surely not be able to pull out it's full potentionl. And this isn't to mention that some of the less reliable companies (-cough-Acclaim-cough-) will probably be able to do nothing with it.

[Against Miik!]

Needless to say, I asked a few friends about and they said "lol it looks like a tv controller" and didn't even read about the gyro functions of it.

Thats like having a console that can make pizza and get you laid, but barely works. If the basic funtions of the controller are bad, for example, not being able to reach all the buttons easily...at all, then it won't work, regardless of all its features. Just admit you want an Xbox 360 and everybody will be happy.

[Phalanx]

i programmed for 5 years...

and it wouldnt be any different. The controller has NOTHING to do with the programming......


well it does, but its such a small degree. More of a cut/paste job really

right, so they wouldn't have to program the game to react to the sensitivity, the angle at which the controller is moving, how fast the controller is moving. There are alot of movement factors to consider when making a controller work with a game, this controller isn't going to be as simple as pushing a button to activate a desired function (apart from the actual buttons of course)

[Kurrpt]

right, so they wouldn't have to program the game to react to the sensitivity, the angle at which the controller is moving, how fast the controller is moving. There are alot of movement factors to consider when making a controller work with a game, this controller isn't going to be as simple as pushing a button to activate a desired function (apart from the actual buttons of course)


how do you think they get a mouse to work with each game you buy...its the same concept.


when we ever programmed and wanted to use a mouse, we pretty much just copy and pasted the code. Obviously there are minor details to change, like the sensitity, but those are just the upper range numbers, or how much you increment by.



trust me, if you havent programmed, you can bull sh!t me :D

[Phalanx]

how do you think they get a mouse to work with each game you buy...its the same concept.


when we ever programmed and wanted to use a mouse, we pretty much just copy and pasted the code. Obviously there are minor details to change, like the sensitity, but those are just the upper range numbers, or how much you increment by.



trust me, if you havent programmed, you can bull sh!t me :D

I have actually, I use to be quite into C++ and with C++, you have to tell the computer how to do everything. Ofcourse games developers recycle common code to save time and im sure this is going to be the same with the revolution but im saying, it sounds like something quite complex to program over and over again

[Kurrpt]

I have actually, I use to be quite into C++ and with C++, you have to tell the computer how to do everything. Ofcourse games developers recycle common code to save time and im sure this is going to be the same with the revolution but im saying, it sounds like something quite complex to program over and over again


well, im sure if you were starting from scratch, it would be a program within a program. One you get the controls down, i would keep it under a separate file.

Normally they have different programmers working on different tasks. Im sure getting it to work flawless would take some time, but no different than analog buttons or an analog thumbstick

[Phalanx]

well, im sure if you were starting from scratch, it would be a program within a program. One you get the controls down, i would keep it under a separate file.

Normally they have different programmers working on different tasks. Im sure getting it to work flawless would take some time, but no different than analog buttons or an analog thumbstick

yes, but with analog controllers, you're still working on a flat ground, with this system, not only do you have left up right and down, you also have forwards and backwards

[Turkish]

Ok, I finally took the time to read the articles instead of just looking at the pictures. And I'm coming to the conclusion of a couple of different things. My first impression was that it was just a remote control playing the game with one hand. It kinda is but works in a different way. The way I'm interpreting it is that it's going to act as a mouse of sorts that you hold in the air. That's going to re-define first person gaming as we know it. You could actually sit back and hold the controller as it were a rifle....and it still be completely accurate.

I'm actually very much looking forward to the new Nintendo console right now. Just the controller itself it taking that extra step towards making it a virtual reality.

This is going to be really cool.

[JohnXDoe]

well, im sure if you were starting from scratch, it would be a program within a program. One you get the controls down, i would keep it under a separate file.

Normally they have different programmers working on different tasks. Im sure getting it to work flawless would take some time, but no different than analog buttons or an analog thumbstick

How will they make all the old Nintendo games work with this if they were initially programmed for an entirely different set up? Will each game have to be changed individually to work with it, or will something in the console itself work this out? Since they are all Nintendo games, I suppose they may of addressed this already. I dunno :confused:

[Kurrpt]

How will they make all the old Nintendo games work with this if they were initially programmed for an entirely different set up? Will each game have to be changed individually to work with it, or will something in the console itself work this out? Since they are all Nintendo games, I suppose they may of addressed this already. I dunno :confused:


well, if you've seen the size of the emulators, there not much to them.


They prolly just program a little boot file that pulls up something thats coded almost exactly like the way the nintendo programmers programmed the game.


I doubt they change much of anything to be honest.


You ever see how those boot disks work for dreamcast? I would assume its the same thing

[Tails]

I think everyone against this is forgetting the obvious possibilities of the Rev. controller - LIGHTSABER BATTLES.

Or imagine a Zelda game, you draw your sword and by where you point the controller is where you swing the sword. You pull out a hookshot, point, and press the trigger on the back and out it shoots. The possibilities are endless.

The analog stick will be shipped with the controller, so imagine a FPS, the analog stick moves and the Z1 an Z2 buttons can be used to open doors or switch weapons, etc. the controller allows you to look around and the B button on the bottom fires.

I think this is one of the smartest things Nintendo has done and I will definately be buying one.

[Turkish]

I'm wondering when playing old games if it won't use the motion sensor and just establish a wireless link. You would probably just play the games like you would with a Wavebird.


EDIT: I'm going to stop talking and just read Kurrptsenate's posts...he knows what he's talking about.



EDIT EDIT: Ohhhh man Think about playing Onimusha or Ninja Gaiden with one of these controllers ooooohhh shiiii...

[Arucard]

I cannot wait for this man. I WANT A NARUTO GAME ON THE REVOLUTION, THAT HAS BEEN TRANSLATED!!!

Also Ramsey : Respect to you man, your easily the most intelligent person in this thread, good arguments.

[Turkish]

Yeah seriously...since Naruto was finally released in the US (even though I am dissappointed with the voice acting)

My friend got an imported copy from Japan....The game is fun as hell.

[graymonkey44]

This new "concept" isn't great at all. I think this is by far the worst thing nintendo has ever come up with. It's not new or great or "innovative" at all.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

I'm so siked for this now. Anyone who didn't read the actual article is a prime example of how dumb console gamers can get.

EDIT: Kids like this \/
This new "concept" isn't great at all. I think this is by far the worst thing nintendo has ever come up with. It's not new or great or "innovative" at all.

[graymonkey44]

Actaully I did read it. Dumbass.

[Turkish]

Think about a game like that...instead of people saying to do a certain combo as "A + B, then hit Y and Z and the same time" It's going to be like "Swing Left, Swing Right, then hit B To jump then do Sudden Downward Thrust move for finishing move"

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Actaully I did read it. Dumbass.
You must have comprehension problems then. And I'd suggest not insulting a mod.

[Turkish]

w3rd

[graymonkey44]

You must have comprehension problems then. And I'd suggest not insulting a mod.
Actually I don't have comprehension problems at all. And I'll insult anyone who shows me ingornace. Mod or not.

[Ramsey]

You must have comprehension problems then. And I'd suggest not insulting a mod.
I agree with this.

Also: Get the hell out of the thread if you're only going to contribute with "this sucks" and "this is stupid."


I'm sure that seems very intelligent for you, but you're actually contributing nothing. If you don't like it give a good reason other than "bleh."


Gtfo.Actually I don't have comprehension problems at all. And I'll insult anyone who shows me ingornace. Mod or not.
Awesome man, now get out. :thumb:

[enjoimx]

It looks weird but good. At least Nintendo arent afraid to try somethning different.

It's about time someone had the guts to try something new. I hope it delivers, and I'm pretty sure it will.



se what i mean about the fanboys??? I TOLD YOU I FRICKIN TOLD YOU. LOL.

yeah kurp, i call em fatties tooo.

[Ramsey]

se what i mean about the fanboys??? I TOLD YOU I FRICKIN TOLD YOU. LOL.
Are you retarded? They are glad Nintendo is trying something new. That does not automatically make you a fanboy.


You're ****ing stupid. Sorry, no. Just, no.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

I didn't like his tone.

Back on topic, this is going to rule so hard.

[enjoimx]

dude come on, im not saying that they have to be fanboys, but thats the kind of things im talkin about if you read my other post BUDDY

edit: now i feel like an idiot and i read about the laser sensitive thing and the two handed operation with the thumbstick, reading this i think it will be cool actually.

[Ramsey]

I didn't like his tone.

Back on topic, this is going to rule so hard.
Imagine if Valve ported Half Life 3 (there is going to be one, no doubt) to the rev.


Imagine the crowbar or gravity gun with that controller. Holy crap.

[Jonny]

Everyone seems to have the same reaction. At first they're just like 'WTF?!' but once you read up on it and what it can do, it just starts looking better and better. Then there's the fiercly anti-Nintendo guys who wont even give it a chance until Sony release their own version.

[Ramsey]

dude come on, im not saying that they have to be fanboys, but thats the kind of things im talkin about if you read my other post BUDDY
You're saying that anyone who supports this controller is basically a avid supporter of Nintendo.


There is a very big difference between someone who wants to try something new and wants to be optimistic rather than someone who blindy supports Nintendo even if they make the most retarded crap.


I'm NOT a Nintendo fanboy, but I support innovation and craftiness in the gaming industry. By you're terms, I'm an idiot. Don't you find that a little strange?


Read your posts, they make no sense. Who are you calling fanboys here?

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Imagine if Valve ported Half Life 3 (there is going to be one, no doubt) to the rev.


Imagine the crowbar or gravity gun with that controller. Holy crap.
If that happened I'd play through the whole game owning people with the crowbar. Oh my god I want this so bad now.

[Congratulations]

This is making me cry. I was looking forward to the Revolution, I was going to buy one. Now I don't think I will. Those look absolutly horrible and hard to use.

[Ramsey]

This is making me cry. I was looking forward to the Revolution, I was going to buy one. Now I don't think I will. Those look absolutly horrible and hard to use.
Any reasons why you think this? Have you read up on it?

I'm not trying to start an argument, it just blows me away when people don't find this amazing.

[enjoimx]

okay okay, i read the whole article ( laziness :( ) but yah it does looka cool, but i dunno if it will work, could you uimagine all that arm movement when your forced to use the crowbar in some minigame, you WOULD get tennis elbow.

[JohnXDoe]

Imagine if Valve ported Half Life 3 (there is going to be one, no doubt) to the rev.


Imagine the crowbar or gravity gun with that controller. Holy crap.

I would have big fun with that crowbar. So far as fanboyism and what have you, I don't even own a console and haven't for years. So I'm fairly impartial. This just sounds like a good thing to me. Looks like one, too. So common sense says it must be just that.

And like I said before, I wanna swat me some flies with it. :)

[HNLzero]

I have only one problem with the entire thing.

They should have made the joystick wireless with the controller.

[Ramsey]

If that happened I'd play through the whole game owning people with the crowbar. Oh my god I want this so bad now.
Dude. You know how the bottom of the Rev has attatchments? Well, lets say a FPS ships. When it ships, it ships with detatchable parts. Larger end---Shotgun. Very large end, Rocket Launcher (so that you'd have to put it on your shoulder). Handle---sword. Very large handle that requires two hands---Large Alien gun. And so on.

So when you switch guns in the game, you have to actually manually switch them and the game detects which weapon you're using.


Oh god, the possibilities are incredible.

[enjoimx]

now THAT would be cool ( even though i said this was gay, your changing my mind)

[Congratulations]

Any reasons why you think this? Have you read up on it?

I'm not trying to start an argument, it just blows me away when people don't find this amazing.
I just read finished the read. I'm still not convinced completely, but it's sounding a lot better. I'm just scared of the look of it. When I first looked at it I thought it was the remote to control a DVD player or something in the system(if there even is one)

[Ramsey]

now THAT would be cool ( even though i said this was gay, your changing my mind)
Haha, because people never took the time to THINK of the possibilities.


Nintendo are trying to reinvigorate imagination into people (not to mention make a killing, but thats a given). They want us to think and be creative.


Nintendo know what they are doing dude. :p You're going to love it.

[Jonny]

Dude. You know how the bottom of the Rev has attatchments? Well, lets say a FPS ships. When it ships, it ships with detatchable parts. Larger end---Shotgun. Very large end, Rocket Launcher (so that you'd have to put it on your shoulder). Handle---sword. Very large handle that requires two hands---Large Alien gun. And so on.

So when you switch guns in the game, you have to actually manually switch them and the game detects which weapon you're using.


Oh god, the possibilities are incredible.
That would be awesome. Expensive, but awesome.

[HNLzero]

Dude. You know how the bottom of the Rev has attatchments? Well, lets say a FPS ships. When it ships, it ships with detatchable parts. Larger end---Shotgun. Very large end, Rocket Launcher (so that you'd have to put it on your shoulder). Handle---sword. Very large handle that requires two hands---Large Alien gun. And so on.

So when you switch guns in the game, you have to actually manually switch them and the game detects which weapon you're using.


Oh god, the possibilities are incredible.
Why is Miyamoto a genius?

[DemonicRubberDucky]

That looks awesome, but I don't know if it's going to be very practical. I like to have everything within a thumbs reach.

Yeah... tony hawk's games on revolution are gonna be a nightmare...

[Jonny]

Didn't they say something at E3 about letting the creative side of your brain run wild?

[Ramsey]

I just read finished the read. I'm still not convinced completely, but it's sounding a lot better. I'm just scared of the look of it. When I first looked at it I thought it was the remote to control a DVD player or something in the system(if there even is one)
Then watch this (http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/651/651334/vids_1.html)

[Ramsey]

Why is Miyamoto a genius?
(A)

Ilu 2 hnl

[JohnXDoe]

I've been saying Revolution all along. Even without the controller.

Vindication and victory are sweet, indeed. :cool:

[Jonny]

Yeah... tony hawk's games on revolution are gonna be a nightmare...
But surely the controller will be the board? and all the movements and tricks depend on how you move it?

[Ramsey]

Yeah... tony hawk's games on revolution are gonna be a nightmare...Well, its also going to be shipped with a regular controller for traditional games, so you're in luck.

[JohnXDoe]

Well, its also going to be shipped with a regular controller for traditional games, so you're in luck.

Best of both worlds. This is only getting better. :)

[Amorpha]

Thats like having a console that can make pizza and get you laid, but barely works. If the basic funtions of the controller are bad, for example, not being able to reach all the buttons easily...at all, then it won't work, regardless of all its features. Just admit you want an Xbox 360 and everybody will be happy.
what the **** just happened there

[enjoimx]

man that vidoeo is getting me all hyped, lol i was just shrugging the revolution off.

[Congratulations]

Then watch this (http://media.cube.ign.com/articles/651/651334/vids_1.html)
Okay, I'm convinced, that was amazing. You have drowned any doubt in my mind that it's going to be awesome.

[graymonkey22]

I didn't like his tone.

Back on topic, this is going to rule so hard.
Ha Ha. I love guys like you. Can't respond to a formittable arguement so you take the easy way out. Understandable.

[JohnXDoe]

Ha Ha. I love guys like you. Can't respond to a formittable arguement so you take the easy way out. Understandable.

Formittable :confused:

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Ha Ha. I love guys like you. Can't respond to a formittable arguement so you take the easy way out. Understandable.
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH .

[graymonkey22]

So why was I banned again?

[Let's Chop Cats!]

And I'll insult anyone who shows me ingornace. Mod or not.For irony purposes.

[graymonkey22]

For irony purposes.
Such as?

[Let's Chop Cats!]

I was hoping you were smart enough to understand that.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ingornace
Did you mean?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ignorance

[Congratulations]

Such as?

You're really slow aren't you?

[Shadows]

Hmmm....I'm intrigued. It loks like they really went the extra mile to make something unique and dynamic. I would love to try one.

[graymonkey22]

I was hoping you were smart enough to understand that.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ingornace
Did you mean?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=ignorance
Anyways. You can't ban someone for making a typing error. It has nothing to do with ingornace or irony.

[Ramsey]

Ha Ha. I love guys like you. Can't respond to a formittable arguement so you take the easy way out. Understandable.
Your "formittable" arguement consisted of "it sucks" and "its stupid." Where the hell is your formittable argument?

[Congratulations]

Anyways. You can't ban someone for making a typing error. It has nothing to do with ingornace or irony.
Now, it's funny really, that he spelled ignorance wrong even after it was pointed out to him. Now, this is true ignorance.

[Shadows]

Anyways. You can't ban someone for making a typing error. It has nothing to do with ingornace or irony.
Once again, so ironic. :lol:

[Let's Chop Cats!]

There is just so much more behind it that you have yet to uncover. It is a really simple reason and is probably the reason why 90% of people are banned.

Now enough of this, back on topic.

[graymonkey22]

Your "formittable" arguement consisted of "it sucks" and "its stupid." Where the hell is your formittable argument?
Actually I never said either of those things I will give you my input on it if someone wouldn't have blocked me.

[graymonkey22]

There is just so much more behind it that you have yet to uncover. It is a really simple reason and is probably the reason why 90% of people are banned.

Now enough of this, back on topic.
Oh please. Humor me.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

I have a feeling you still wouldn't understand it even if it was spelled out.

[Ramsey]

This new "concept" isn't great at all. I think this is by far the worst thing nintendo has ever come up with. It's not new or great or "innovative" at all.


Well, to be honest, this isn't really a formittable argument either. Its just excess baggage for the thread.

I must've confused you with someone else when I said you called it "stupid" (probably enjoymx) but in all fairness, you really didn't back up anything you said and just made stupid claims.

[mightygod]

i drooled on the swordfighting part, and the drum stuff, and... almost everything... However i still dont get why people keep saying that the controller sucks ¿?

I would really be pissed of if Sony and/or Microsoft copy this.

[Ramsey]

i drooled on the swordfighting part, and the drum stuff, and... almost everything... However i still dont get why people keep saying that the controller sucks ¿?
Because they don't want change in the industry. They want sequals and prequals to the same games every year, the same stories and same methods.


No one is prepared for a change and anything new is called a gimmick.

[Congratulations]

i drooled on the swordfighting part, and the drum stuff, and... almost everything... However i still dont get why people keep saying that the controller sucks ¿?
It's because it looks different.

[graymonkey22]

Well, to be honest, this isn't really a formittable argument either. Its just excess baggage for the thread.

I must've confused you with someone else when I said you called it "stupid" (probably enjoymx) but in all fairness, you really didn't back up anything you said and just made stupid claims.
Oh yes and everyone saying,"0mG!!!!! Teh RevoLoOTioN RoCkS mY SoCKs!!!! WooT!!! WoOt!!!!1 LOL!!!!" isn't excess baggage. Guess what, this isn't a "Let's only talk good things about the Revolutions new controller" thread now isn't it? Everyone has a right to their opinion. And I would be happy to give it to you if you would ask me nicely.

[Ramsey]

Oh yes and everyone saying,"0mG!!!!! Teh RevoLoOTioN RoCkS mY SoCKs!!!! WooT!!! WoOt!!!!1 LOL!!!!" isn't excess baggage. Guess what, this isn't a "Let's only talk good things about the Revolutions new controller" thread now isn't it? Everyone has a right to their opinion. And I would be happy to give it to you if you would ask me nicely.
No one is going to ask for a persons opinion if they bash it immediatley, which is exactly what you did.

If you had given reasons why you didn't like it, why you thought way you did, then probably most people would've been like "ok." You're not the only one in this thread, so stop acting like you are.
I got to go now.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

No one wants you're opinion.

You claimed that the controler is not innovative, I can't possible see how that could be true as it is the first of it's kind to be mass produced for the public.

[mightygod]

Because they don't want change in the industry. They want sequals and prequals to the same games every year, the same stories and same methods.


No one is prepared for a change and anything new is called a gimmick.

Yeah i know what kind of reactions are having the people, why i dont understand is why anyone would want the same game only with better graphics??? its almost like a brainwashing is so creepy. Honestly at first i tought that everyone would go "FUK PS3 AND XBOX 360, THIS GONNA RULE", every single game on those systems could be more inmersive if it was released on the Revolution.

[graymonkey22]

No one is going to ask for a persons opinion if they bash it immediatley, which is exactly what you did.

If you had given reasons why you didn't like it, why you thought way you did, then probably most people would've been like "ok." You're not the only one in this thread, so stop acting like you are.
I got to go now.
I wasn't bashing anything. I was giving my opinion. I never said or tried to make it look like I was the only one in this thread. So please... Stop.

[Arucard]

Sorry about being off topic slightly, but Ramsey, you are an Arsis fan, yes? Well, they posted a new soundclip of the new EP, and its awesome, the links in a thread i made in R+M.

Anywho, im so stoked after reading the article. All these dumbarse Playstation idiots who just want 'SHOOT ZOMBIE WITH GUN LOL' games can fook off, this is gonna be great.

[JohnXDoe]

No one wants you're opinion.

You claimed that the controler is not innovative, I can't possible see how that could be true as it is the first of it's kind to be mass produced for the public.

It is indeed a "Revolution".

It is the future of gaming controllers today. It's gonna own. Period. Beetle Adventure Racing, here I come. And Turok2, as well. :)

[Let's Chop Cats!]

This new "concept" isn't great at all. I think this is by far the worst thing nintendo has ever come up with. It's not new or great or "innovative" at all.
How is it not new or innovative at all?

[Shadows]

Sorry about being off topic slightly, but Ramsey, you are an Arsis fan, yes? Well, they posted a new soundclip of the new EP, and its awesome, the links in a thread i made in R+M.
:eek: You whore!

This has never been done before. without a doubt. I've never seen a controller quite like this.

[graymonkey22]

No one wants you're opinion.

You claimed that the controler is not innovative, I can't possible see how that could be true as it is the first of it's kind to be mass produced for the public.
It isn't innovative at all. You can do the same thing at an arcade. I thought they were going to do something different and I had high expectations for it. All it is is a motion detector. Wow... Oh my word... So great... So original... And on top of that, the button configuration is just bad. The big A button is all right, but what about the other two littles ones. It will be a hassle going from button to button. And the whole analog attachment thing is alright except for the structure of it. It's only connected by a single wire, so if something slips or something bad could happen. As well as how the motion detector works with the game. If you are gonna keep moving you're arm every ten seconds that would be extremely retarded. And plus if you're trying to move with the analog stick in one hand and trying to move with motion detector, it all seems too difficult.

[Mr. Ron]

BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!

That is so gay!

[Let's Chop Cats!]

I love how you know all this from some pictures and a 30 second video clip.
You can do the same thing at an arcade.
Never once seen an arcade like that
I thought they were going to do something different
They did, and you obviously can't grasp the idea.
All it is is a motion detector. Wow... Oh my word... So great... So original... And you know this from hacking into the patent office, figuring out all the technical aspects of it and making one to test for yourself?


Everything you have said has just been undeducated and ignorant.

[Arucard]

Yeh dude, tell me where this arcade is, i wanna go :lol:

[graymonkey22]

I love how you know all this from some pictures and a 30 second video clip.

Never once seen an arcade like that

They did, and you obviously can't grasp the idea.
And you know this from hacking into the patent office, figuring out all the technical aspects of it and making one to test for yourself?


Everything you have said has just been undeducated and ignorant.
So what about everything else I said? Huh?

And anyways. If you go to ANY arcade they have a House of The Dead type game which has a gun that you shoot the screen with. Pretty much the same concept. It isn't original at all.

[Mr. Ron]

Seriously, that is one of the worst controllers I have ever seen.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

And anyways. If you go to ANY arcade they have a House of The Dead type game which has a gun that you shoot the screen with. Pretty much the same concept. It isn't original at all.
Actually it is completely different. If your read the article you'd know that.


And on top of that, the button configuration is just bad. The big A button is all right, but what about the other two littles ones. It will be a hassle going from button to button.
How would you ever know this from the very little media given, you don't so shut up.

And the whole analog attachment thing is alright except for the structure of it. It's only connected by a single wire, so if something slips or something bad could happen. how do you know there isn't some sort of safety clip? or it pauses if unpluged? Most of those things are in current gen systems.


As well as how the motion detector works with the game. If you are gonna keep moving you're arm every ten seconds that would be extremely retarded. And plus if you're trying to move with the analog stick in one hand and trying to move with motion detector, it all seems too difficult.
You must have a slow mind to not be able to grasp how to use the controller considering it is the same thing as a normal one just that it is separated with a wire.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Multitap plugins. Nintendo is really the wrong company to be pesting about wanting more and more money.

[JohnXDoe]

So what about everything else I said? Huh?

And anyways. If you go to ANY arcade they have a House of The Dead type game which has a gun that you shoot the screen with. Pretty much the same concept. It isn't original at all.

It's original because you can play a wide variety of games with this. Not just House Of The Dead. And it's innovative for the same reason. Plus it is for home use. That's fairly original. And Nintendo along with third party developers will exploit it for all it's worth.

Nintendo has lead the way in the past, and it is doing so again. So throw away your clunky controllers. They are going the way of the Atari two button joystick.

Viva la Revolution! :smash:

[Mr. Ron]

I just hope SONY redesigns their controler, i'm not happy with theirs either.

[Liberi Fatali]

I just hope SONY redesigns their controler, i'm not happy with theirs either.
Don't judge it before you hold it. Sony aren't stupid, I'm sure it is more comfortable than the dual shock and quite likely more comfortable than Nintendo or Microsoft's controllers.

[graymonkey22]

Actually it is completely different. If your read the article you'd know that.

I did read the article. It's the same concept.

How would you ever know this from the very little media given, you don't so shut up.
It's called common sense. You can just tell from looking at the picture.

how do you know there isn't some sort of safety clip? or it pauses if unpluged? Most of those things are in current gen systems.
Alright. It could have that, but I was just stating an example. So many different things could go wrong it's not even funny.

You must have a slow mind to not be able to grasp how to use the controller considering it is the same thing as a normal one just that it is separated with a wire.
I know what it is and how it works retard. You must have a slow mind to grasp what I was trying to say. Here, I'll try to say it again. It's going to be annoying flailing your right around trying to kill some goblin or something, while moving around with you're left hand, and trying to push the little b button which makes you're thumb twist all the way back, at the same time. And I like a controller with structure. There's nothing in the middle!! There's no base which is going to make it even harder for you.

[Mr. Ron]

Don't judge it before you hold it. Sony aren't stupid, I'm sure it is more comfortable than the dual shock and quite likely more comfortable than Nintendo or Microsoft's controllers.
Most likely, i'm a big SONY/ Plastation fan till the end, it just looks awkward to me. I'll just have to wait till I have one in my hands.

[Liberi Fatali]

Most likely, i'm a big SONY/ Plastation fan till the end, it just looks awkward to me. I'll just have to wait till I have one in my hands.
Anyway! Sony is making it very easy for third party hardware makers to develop hardware for their system this generation, with no loyalties having to be paid to Sony. This will hopefully mean a ton of third party controllers released, and certainly a few mouse-keyboard combinations as well. Which equals FPS goodness. :)

[Let's Chop Cats!]

I did read the article. It's the same concept.Driving a car and flying a plane are the same concept, both transportation. There is such a big difference between the two.

It's called common sense. You can just tell from looking at the picture.No you really can't. And common sense has nothing to do with it.

Alright. It could have that, but I was just stating an example. So many different things could go wrong it's not even funny.So many things can go wrong with a normal controller. You're just digging for stupid reasons to not like the controller.

I know what it is and how it works retard. You must have a slow mind to grasp what I was trying to say. Here, I'll try to say it again. It's going to be annoying flailing your right around trying to kill some goblin or something, while moving around with you're left hand, and trying to push the little b button which makes you're thumb twist all the way back, at the same time. And I like a controller with structure. There's nothing in the middle!! There's no base which is going to make it even harder for you.
You don't know any of this. Stop naming things that you couldn't possibly realisticly backup. You have no idea how this thing will work. I'm sure if you wanted to you could just sit there and move the controller 2 inchs up or down and it'll work just the same.

[mightygod]

I did read the article. It's the same concept.


It's called common sense. You can just tell from looking at the picture.


Alright. It could have that, but I was just stating an example. So many different things could go wrong it's not even funny.


I know what it is and how it works retard. You must have a slow mind to grasp what I was trying to say. Here, I'll try to say it again. It's going to be annoying flailing your right around trying to kill some goblin or something, while moving around with you're left hand, and trying to push the little b button which makes you're thumb twist all the way back, at the same time. And I like a controller with structure. There's nothing in the middle!! There's no base which is going to make it even harder for you.

you didnt see well the controller, the big buttons are made for "tv remote" play, the smaller are for horizontal play, classic style, its the same idea they used for the massive a button on the GC, for most actions there are only 2 buttons involved, and the otter are secundaries like pause, menu and stuff, plus the analog has another 2 buttons, so i dont think it lacks anything.

[JohnXDoe]

Most likely, i'm a big SONY/ Plastation fan till the end, it just looks awkward to me. I'll just have to wait till I have one in my hands.

Is the final version out yet? Or has it been shown? Because I could swear I read somewhere that the one they unveiled with the console was not a final design, merely a work in progress. They just needed to show something with the system, and that's as far as they had gotten at that point. Or so I read.

[Mr. Ron]

Anyway! Sony is making it very easy for third party hardware makers to develop hardware for their system this generation, with no loyalties having to be paid to Sony. This will hopefully mean a ton of third party controllers released, and certainly a few mouse-keyboard combinations as well. Which equals FPS goodness. :)
Oh man, I wouldn't know how to contain myself. :D

[mightygod]

Oh man, I wouldn't know how to contain myself. :D

I dont understand, you would like and extra keyboard and a mouse for an fps, when the revolution´s controller is actually like holding a gun, and you still dont like revolution´s controller??

[Mr. Ron]

I dont understand, you would like and extra keyboard and a mouse for an fps, when the revolution´s controller is actually like holding a gun, and you still dont like revolution´s controller??
you wouldn't have to use the standard PS3 controler, only the mouse and pad. While the revolution control makes you have to use theirs.

[mightygod]

you wouldn't have to use the standard PS3 controler, only the mouse and pad. While the revolution control makes you have to use theirs.

The real question is, why wouldnt you want to use a revolution controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?? just because one option apparently means you are a slave of a company by not having options for the controller, when the actual controller is pretty capable of delivering a superb inmersion on the game?

[Mr. Ron]

The real question is, why wouldnt you want to use a revolution controller instead of a mouse and keyboard?? just because one option apparently means you are a slave of a company by not having options for the controller, when the actual controller is pretty capable of delivering a superb inmersion on the game?
Because it's widely known that FPS's are better to play with a keyboard and mouse. Something the revolution controller lacks.

[mightygod]

Because it's widely known that FPS's are better to play with a keyboard and mouse. Something the revolution controller lacks.

I would give you some time to rethink your post.
















Just read this if there wasnt enough oxygen into your brain:

What is more realistic? a mouse? or a gun house of the dead style, wich can be aimed everywhere like a mouse, can rumble unlike a mouse, and that you can use with another controller to use 2 guns at the time. Im pretty confident you didnt need to reach this far of the post.

[Liberi Fatali]

Just read this if there wasnt enough oxygen into your brain:

What is more realistic? a mouse? or a gun house of the dead style, wich can be aimed everywhere like a mouse, can rumble unlike a mouse, and that you can use with another controller to use 2 guns at the time. Im pretty confident you didnt need to reach this far of the post.
Which is easier to use and enables you to get more kills in a FPS? A mouse and keyboard for sure.

I think you're not getting enough oxygen into your brain, nobody on this forum has even tryed using the Revolution controller, so to compare it with a mouse and keyboard at this point is quite stupid.

[Mr. Ron]

I would give you some time to rethink your post.
















Just read this if there wasnt enough oxygen into your brain:

What is more realistic? a mouse? or a gun house of the dead style, wich can be aimed everywhere like a mouse, can rumble unlike a mouse, and that you can use with another controller to use 2 guns at the time. Im pretty confident you didnt need to reach this far of the post.

Stfu, I know what you're getting at. It's just that playing a FPS is better with a mouse and keyboard.

[mightygod]

Which is easier to use and enables you to get more kills in a FPS? A mouse and keyboard for sure.

I think you're not getting enough oxygen into your brain, nobody on this forum has even tryed using the Revolution controller, so to compare it with a mouse and keyboard at this point is quite stupid.

But there are reactions with a fps already, the demo they gave had some of metroid prime 2 modified for the controller and it looked way more action packed than a mouse could ever deliver, you can move freely with your left hand and the analog and the controller serves like your gun, i still dont get why dont you realize that, is like playing fukin paintball, and you say that a mouse and a keyboard are more realistic than actual aiming??

[mightygod]

Stfu, I know what you're getting at. It's just that playing a FPS is better with a mouse and keyboard.

¬¬ ok...

[Liberi Fatali]

But there are reactions with a fps already, the demo they gave had some of metroid prime 2 modified for the controller and it looked way more action packed than a mouse could ever deliver, you can move freely with your left hand and the analog and the controller serves like your gun, i still dont get why dont you realize that, is like playing fukin paintball, and you say that a mouse and a keyboard are more realistic than actual aiming??
What the hell dude. I never said a mouse and keyboard were more realistic. I said a mouse and keyboard are easy and quick to use, and allow for swift accurate movements and for a ton of actions to be binded to different keys. The Revolution controller however is rather limited button wise and none of you have yet used it.

So once again I'll restate that comparing the mouse and keyboard with the Revolution controller is quite stupid.

[mightygod]

What the hell dude. I never said a mouse and keyboard were more realistic. I said a mouse and keyboard are easy and quick to use, and allow for swift accurate movements and for a ton of actions to be binded to different keys. The Revolution controller however is rather limited button wise and none of you have yet used it.

So once again I'll restate that comparing the mouse and keyboard with the Revolution controller is quite stupid.

By your final statement we are both stupid then... End of discusion

[Liberi Fatali]

By your final statement we are both stupid then... End of discusion
You forced me to compare them with your ridiculous statements and horrible misquotes. I compare based on facts, you compare based on your theories.

Anyway, enough of this discussion. Don't want this turning into a fan boy romp.

[Brewer14]

This will definitly be cool if they pull it off.

Still, I'm buying an XBox 360. I'll buy a Revolution if it appeals to me, but the controller definitly has caught my interest.

[mightygod]

You forced me to compare them with your ridiculous statements and horrible misquotes. I compare based on facts, you compare based on your theories.

Anyway, enough of this discussion. Don't want this turning into a fan boy romp.

I just wanted to say that i too only compare based on facts. The controller does what i say, and it was showed by nintendo in a real fps. No theories, just facts.

[slack]

alright, i have heard that this controller will revolutionize the way we play games, that the possibilities are endless and all that jazz, and i'm wondering something. controllers are basically maps for animation sequences that are put in-game by devs. you press the right trigger in Halo, you fire, left trigger, melee, or whatever. so it's not like you're going to be able to make a hundred different sword swings with this revolution controller and have it play out on the screen, because chances are the animations aren't going to be there, right?

what's the big deal, then? it doesn't seem like it's going to do anything but give some people arm fatigue.

[Shadows]

The controller won't make the game function any differently. a game like you mentioned will still, and always, be move-aim-shoot. The means od controlling will be different. Instead of moving a little joystick, all you have to do is move your arm accourdingly. It sounds much easier and more sensetive to me, thus making the game much more interactive with the player and allowing the player to act much more quickly and precisely. All of this = more intense gameplay.

[mightygod]

alright, i have heard that this controller will revolutionize the way we play games, that the possibilities are endless and all that jazz, and i'm wondering something. controllers are basically maps for animation sequences that are put in-game by devs. you press the right trigger in Halo, you fire, left trigger, melee, or whatever. so it's not like you're going to be able to make a hundred different sword swings with this revolution controller and have it play out on the screen, because chances are the animations aren't going to be there, right?

what's the big deal, then? it doesn't seem like it's going to do anything but give some people arm fatigue.

its just interactiveness, when all games become VR we still be seeing the same displays on the screen, but the way we trigger those actions are what inmerses you in the game

[sensitiveorgan00]

Man, this is going to be awesome to play with when you're high. FPS-multiplayer, holy shi.t. :amaze:

[slack]

The controller won't make the game function any differently. a game like you mentioned will still, and always, be move-aim-shoot. The means od controlling will be different. Instead of moving a little joystick, all you have to do is move your arm accourdingly. It sounds much easier and more sensetive to me, thus making the game much more interactive with the player and allowing the player to act much more quickly and precisely. All of this = more intense gameplay.

yeah i can see how that might be more immersive. but damn, browse some of the gamer boards and there's people raving about this like it's the second coming or something. it's still all about the games, so i hope nintendo isn't relying on this being a system seller. i doubt they are, but i think the revolution will disappoint anyway. hell, it already seems gimmicky.

[mightygod]

yeah i can see how that might be more immersive. but damn, browse some of the gamer boards and there's people raving about this like it's the second coming or something. it's still all about the games, so i hope nintendo isn't relying on this being a system seller. i doubt they are, but i think the revolution will disappoint anyway. hell, it already seems gimmicky.

So was the rumble pack and now it just feels natural. The think im afraid of is that only nintendo will know how to use well the features like with the DS. If i´m mistaken then the games will also improve, like there could be new themes for games, like the teaser suggested, a game about precision surgery, a first person swordfighting game etc.
What i dont like about Nintendo is that they surely focus on these developments and the total power of the system could not improve that much, and part of the inmersiveness of a game is what you see.

[eseer erre]

Meh, I don't really care what can be done with it. I want to see what will be done with it. They can spend all day talking about the possibilities. I won't decide until I see them in action and use them.
Personally though, I'm leaning between Microsoft and Nintendo based from past performance. As tempting as the classic controller is, I'll keep an eye on this.

*Sigh*... And I was hoping for a touchscreen.

[Shadows]

I was so sure I was going to get a PS3, but now I think the new Nintendo is is in the running.

[Pop music sucks]

Ooh.

Now I'm definately gonna get a Revolution.

Not only the interactivity of the controller, but the fact you can download practically every classic game.

Some guy: *referances Stretch Armstrong*
Peter: Aww no way, his arms stretched to next week!

[Jonny]

I don't get how some people fail to see the possibilities this controller opens up. Not to mention the fact they (or 3rd parties) can come up with other designs for it for their games. Like making one a pistol shape for FPS's. Or like how they had that special edition RE4 chainsaw controller, only this one could function as an actual chainsaw in the game.

[Jonny]

These aren't official images- they're mock ups of possible attachments for the controller:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/Jonz/rev1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/Jonz/rev2.jpg

And for ''classic'' style gaming:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v491/Jonz/rev3.jpg

[Yield]

I can just imagine some idiot trying to turn his TV on and off with this.

[BigTrav415]

Ok, if it works, it will be absolutely awesome. If it doesn't, I see a Power-Glove style fiasco on the horizon. I like that Nintendo is always pushing the limits of gaming, but it certainly is QUITE different. In fact, I'm willing to bet a lot of people are going to get the XB360 or PS3 over the Revo, just because of the controller, even if just at first. I just hope the folks in Nintendo PR know what they're doing....

/knows they do :D

[Mr.Shankly]

So wait...im confused...is the part that looks like a gamecube controller part of it...or is it just the wand and the tv remote.

[BigTrav415]

So wait...im confused...is the part that looks like a gamecube controller part of it...or is it just the wand and the tv remote.
The actual controller is the wand/remote, the GC controller thing is what you can put the wand thing into to play more traditional games or for other reasons.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

This could be really bad for Microsoft and Sony.

I think that most gamers will get either the PS3 or 360 (depending on their personal choice) because they are the leaders nt he field and have lot's of qualty games out, but they will also get a Revolution because it's different to the other two and has the potential to be a huge success, so that menas that a lot of gamers won't ahve eiother the 360 or PS3 and maybe the 360's launch date could work in their favour and against Sony's when the PS3 is released around the same time as the Revolution.

:shrugs:

[Hep Kat]

this could be the most brilliant thing i've ever seen....but at the same time i'm really scared for nintendo's future.....

[BigTrav415]

this could be the most brilliant thing i've ever seen....but at the same time i'm really scared for nintendo's future.....
123. I felt like that with the DS though when it first came out, and it's done very well (I don't own one, but I often play my sister's). We can only hope, and support Nintendo by buying one (unless it ends up sucking for some reason)

[Hep Kat]

well the ds is bloody brilliant......it just doesn't have good games yet.....

[i like arab girls]

http://cube.ign.com/

It looks...quite different from what I expected. But I won't judge until I get to actually use it.
It looks almost retro.

But now that I've seen the whole thing, it looks pretty cool.

[Hep Kat]

not almost retro it is retro......i'm just worried how mainsteam gamers will take it......

[even if they were canadian]

This was pointed out before, but I'll bet many people will look at at, say it's dumb, and get one of the other systems. I know people who will find any excuse to disregard everything nintendo does. It's pathetic really.

I, personally, think it's a brilliant idea. It would be awesome if they can actually get people to understand what it can do.

Wouldn't it be something if in ten years all the systems use something like this?

[infeef]

i think this could go either way for nintendo, if they did it right it will be huge. they have my attention.

[Mr. Ron]

These aren't official images- they're mock ups of possible attachments for the controller:



And for ''classic'' style gaming:


You know what all those attachments mean to Nintendo? CHA-CHING.

[Kif]

I have to say those attachments look very sexy. Assuming Nintendo have a decent game line-up other than "the usual suspects", I may considering buying one if it's at the right price...

[even if they were canadian]

The revolution is supposed to be under $200. Awesome.

[Jonny]

You know what all those attachments mean to Nintendo? CHA-CHING.
Nintendo is hardly gonna release a new add on for every game. My guess is the classic one and the one with the extra control stick will be pretty much standard, while other parts are not necessary except as a novelty.

And besides, they've stated that their online service is gonna be free for first party games so it's not like they're going to milk you for all you're worth.

[heinz rocks]

This thing is going to be sooo awesome. I can't wait to see how the online play works with it. That would be soooo cool if there was a sword fighting type/Jedi light saber fighting game. And the controller is the sword and the way you move it affects how the sword/light saber moves on the screen. Soooo awesome.

[Yield]

The Revo is so different from the 360 and PS3, more people are gonna buy the Revo because some people might just get 2, and instead of getting the 360 and the ps3, they'll get one of those and the Revo.

[Mr. Ron]

The Revo is so different from the 360 and PS3, more people are gonna buy the Revo because some people might just get 2, and instead of getting the 360 and the ps3, they'll get one of those and the Revo.
Besides the controller, the Revolution isn't much different from the 360 or the PS3. Except the PS3 and 360 totally destroy it.

[heinz rocks]

Besides the controller, the Revolution isn't much different from the 360 or the PS3. Except the PS3 and 360 totally destroy it.
Actually, many things will be different, due to the controller. Gameplay will be different for most third party games. Plus the option to buy NES and SNES games.

[even if they were canadian]

Besides the controller, the Revolution isn't much different from the 360 or the PS3. Except the PS3 and 360 totally destroy it.
The controller will affect game play immensely, which is what counts in a game system. What do you want?

[Mr. Ron]

The controller will affect game play immensely, which is what counts in a game system. What do you want?
What do I want in a game system? Good games. I don't care for fancy controlers.

[Shadows]

Besides the controller, the Revolution isn't much different from the 360 or the PS3. Except the PS3 and 360 totally destroy it.
"Besides the controller"? Come on, didn't you read the page about the new controller? It is going to completely change the way the Revolution is played. It won't be anything like 360 or PS3.

[Mr. Ron]

"Besides the controller"? Come on, didn't you read the page about the new controller? It is going to completely change the way the Revolution is played. It won't be anything like 360 or PS3.
I read the whole thread. I'm telling you right now, this controller is being way over hyped. Even with this new controller, it will never keep up with the PS3 or 360.

[Let's Chop Cats!]

Stop talking.

[allalone]

I read the whole thread. I'm telling you right now, this controller is being way over hyped. Even with this new controller, it will never keep up with the PS3 or 360.
That may be true.

[Mr. Ron]

God forbid I have an opinion that differs form your own.

Edit: to Reiner.

[Shadows]

I read the whole thread. I'm telling you right now, this controller is being way over hyped. Even with this new controller, it will never keep up with the PS3 or 360.
That remains to be seen, but I think the creativity involved in the new controller will give it an edge over 360 and PS3, who chose to stick with more standard and traditional playing styles.

[Mr. Ron]

That remains to be seen, but I think the creativity involved in the new controller will give it an edge over 360 and PS3, who chose to stick with more standard and traditional playing styles.
The thing is, people don't play video games because they can maniuplate the game differently with a controler. They play them because they are interested in THE GAME.

[Shadows]

The thing is, people don't play video games because they can maniuplate the game differently with a controler. They play them because they are interested in THE GAME.
So you don't think the new controllers will make it more interesting? The way the game will be controlled will make it much more easily manipulated by the player, thus making the game more interactive and able to be more intense.

[Mr. Ron]

So you don't think the new controllers will make it more interesting? The way the game will be controlled will make it much more easily manipulated by the player, thus making the game more interactive and able to be more intense.
I seriously doubt it will make it more interesting. People will have their minds on the game, not the controler. Plus all it is, is a control in two parts connected by a wire.


But all of this argueing isn't going to get us anywhere. We all just have to wait for it to come out.

[even if they were canadian]

The thing is, people don't play video games because they can maniuplate the game differently with a controler. They play them because they are interested in THE GAME.
If a new controller design brings a person closer to THE GAME, then those people interested in it will opt for the new controller.

[Mr. Ron]

If a new controller design brings a person closer to THE GAME, then those people interested in it will opt for the new controller.
How will this new controler bring you closer to the game? A keyboard and mouse can do the same thing.


Lets just stop argueing about this.

[even if they were canadian]

How will this new controler bring you closer to the game? A keyboard and mouse can do the same thing.


Lets just stop argueing about this.
Imagine playing Zelda. You could conceivably control the characters movement with the analog stick, and use the other part of the controller to control the sword. Swing the controller around, swing the sword around.

That's just one example. The possibilities are endless.

[allalone]

This thing is going to be sick multiplayer. I'll tell you that much.

[Mr. Ron]

Imagine playing Zelda. You could conceivably control the characters movement with the analog stick, and use the other part of the controller to control the sword. Swing the controller around, swing the sword around.

That's just one example. The possibilities are endless.
I don't see how swinging the controller around being "innovative". I would rather just hit a button. But who knows.

[allalone]

I just hope they do it right.

[eseer erre]

How will this new controler bring you closer to the game? A keyboard and mouse can do the same thing.


Lets just stop argueing about this.
You'd rather use a mouse than a controller, right? Same idea.

[IbanezSamurai]

Even though the conrtoller will make you look like a dork when you play with it, it might be very entertaining. I wonder how many companys are willing to develop games for a platform with controller like this.

[eseer erre]

Even though the conrtoller will make you look like a dork when you play with it, it might be very entertaining.
I can imagine this sword idea...
People will do all sorts of crazy **** with it alone (spinning, jumping, etc.), and then in a vs. game, they'll barely move...

[allalone]

I can imagine this sword idea...
People will do all sorts of crazy **** with it alone (spinning, jumping, etc.), and then in a vs. game, they'll barely move...
That's me right there. That would be cool if multiplayer sword battles you could pretend your controller was the sword and do motions toward eachothers and it would actually affect gameplay. Man that would be awesome.