The Official Against Me! Thread [Archive] - Page 9

kno_kontrol

07-19-2006, 12:50 PM

ibanezman575

07-19-2006, 01:05 PM

....right

Anarcho Poser

07-19-2006, 02:03 PM

I saw them play at Warped...
I was dissapointed...
I expect to be. If not because of the setlist, because of the crowd/atmosphere.

obese_breasts

07-19-2006, 02:07 PM

The crowd when I saw them was pretty cool. The setlist was mediocre, only song from RAR was Pints of Guiness

iam2000pounds

07-19-2006, 02:13 PM

I got to the warped tour fifteen minutes too lates to see them. :( They were the reason I went.

Angry Balled Fists!

07-19-2006, 02:14 PM

They exceeded my expectations when i saw them for their own show, and i had really high expectations.

ThisUserIsAPipebomb

07-19-2006, 02:45 PM

obese_breasts

07-19-2006, 02:45 PM

They were amazing when I saw them headlining back in the fall. It was one of the best shows I have ever been to.

AIRIC

07-19-2006, 09:02 PM

ATEC is a collection of songs

SfaFC is an album. Its meant to be listened to as a whole, not song for song. thats the only way you can possibly grasp the concept and go on the journey. I love all three albums, but Clarity is just brilliant in the most extreme sense of the word.

This isn't even a valid opinion. It's just plain wrong.

SFAFC is a piece of ****. It really is. The thing about Against Me! before they released that **** was that every single second of every song held more passion than most people have ever heard out of a band. Every lyric and chord held more meaning than most of the music we listen to. SFAFC lacked everything that is Against Me! and as such a big fan I'm honestly ashamed that they put that out.

sketchyjoe

07-19-2006, 09:28 PM

The crowd when I saw them was pretty cool. The setlist was mediocre, only song from RAR was Pints of Guiness
That really sucks.

Flagjacket

07-19-2006, 10:53 PM

Brain Toad

07-19-2006, 11:10 PM

SFAFC is a good album.

Flagjacket

07-19-2006, 11:14 PM

It is, but that Kontrol nig is talking about it like it contains the suberbaby of Hitler and Mike Tyson.

Fisticuff111

07-19-2006, 11:53 PM

RAR is in my opinion the greatest album ever. It comepletly changed the way I think about music and how I live my life. Very few records ever do that. ATEC was great, one of my top 10 favorite records, but not better than RAR. SFAFC was good (keep in mind that the last two were some of the best music ever written, so 'good' is one hell of a downgrade), but it did lack the same passion AM! previously had. It's not a Punk record by any means, and I think more people need to take that into account. If you want to hear Punk music and put on SFAFC, you'll be dissapointed. It's pretty muich a straight up Rock record, and a pretty damn good one at that.

Just my 2 cents...

P.S. The whole Punk music thing was not intended to suggest that anyone here had a close minded look on music. I know this board actually has quite eclectic tastes in music, thank God (AKA Tom Gabel :p )

EDIT: And I do agree with the guy that said that SFAFC was more of a cohesive album that needed to be listened to as a whole to really appreciate it, while the other albums were 'just collections of songs' (particularly ATEC). But keep in mind that that does not neccisarily make for a better record.

obese_breasts

07-20-2006, 12:11 AM

That really sucks.

I remember now that they played Reinventing Axl Rose too, ironic much?

TakeWarning

07-20-2006, 12:32 AM

I like SFAFC, but it has about 6 good songs and the rest are all very average.

Definitely their worst release.

Joeeddstealschickens

07-20-2006, 01:18 AM

SFAFC has Even At Our Worst We're Better Than Most on though, and thats a brilliant song. And who was it who said SFAFC had no passion? Even At Our Worst, the title track, From Her Lips To Gods Ears, Justin, Joy & Problems for a start. Granted there are a few duds, like How Low and Miami, but i cant imagine the album being the same without them. I found SFAFC was a real grower, i thought it was as weak as Belgian beer originally but now i love it.

TakeWarning

07-20-2006, 01:25 AM

Haha, Miami is my favourite and How Low is also one of my favourites.

I think Miami is one of their best songs.

ibanezman575

07-20-2006, 08:10 AM

yea, but the record is just.....boring

asdf

07-20-2006, 10:00 AM

Haha, Miami is my favourite and How Low is also one of my favourites.

I think Miami is one of their best songs.
I like Miami because it has more energy than any of the other songs on the album.

And I also like How Low. Searching For a Former Clarity the song is pretty good aswell. Other than those, I could really do without the album.

Angry Balled Fists!

07-20-2006, 12:06 PM

Even at our worst were still better than most is amazing.

As is How Low, Holy ****, Problems, SFAFC, Unprotected Sex.. etc are too in my book.

asdf

07-20-2006, 12:48 PM

Oh man, I really hate the song problems.

Angry Balled Fists!

07-20-2006, 01:41 PM

haha it's good, got lots of energy to it.

I like Pretty Girls too.

sketchyjoe

07-20-2006, 04:33 PM

On SFAFC there's lots of bits where I like one bit of the song like one verse, riff or the chorus but not the song as a whole.

eg the riff from Unprotected Sex With Multiple Partners
the chorus of From Her Lips to God's Ears
the intro to Don't Lose Touch (Jimmy Cliff rip-off)

Brain Toad

07-20-2006, 04:36 PM

Even at our worst were still better than most is amazing.

As is How Low, Holy ****, Problems, SFAFC, Unprotected Sex.. etc are too in my book.

Holy **** became my favorite AM! song after a couple of listens.

TakeWarning

07-20-2006, 10:28 PM

the intro to Don't Lose Touch (Jimmy Cliff rip-off)

Serious? What song?

Bad Blood

07-21-2006, 03:46 AM

Plectrum.

You music dork.

that's right.

TakeWarning

07-21-2006, 09:48 AM

Is Snowball Fight the poster formerly known as Bad Blood?

Angry Balled Fists!

07-21-2006, 10:53 AM

Yeah.

sketchyjoe

07-21-2006, 07:05 PM

Serious? What song?
It sounds just like You Can Get It If You Really Want. There's a moment at about 30 seconds in where I think he's about to say "And you succeed at last" every time I hear it.

Joeeddstealschickens

07-22-2006, 02:18 AM

Miami is overlong, slow and has those horrible out of tune trumpet parts in the chorus. The version on that stolen demo is much better, but still aint great, at least in my book. Ed Is Sexy off that demo is much cooler, cant believe they didnt re-record that song.

TakeWarning

07-22-2006, 02:58 AM

I prefer the demo version of Miami, so I just put it on my copy of SFAFC instead of the album version, since I burnt my copy.

It sounds just like You Can Get It If You Really Want. There's a moment at about 30 seconds in where I think he's about to say "And you succeed at last" every time I hear it.

Yeah, I can see where you're coming from, the songs do sound kind of alike.

Angry Balled Fists!

07-22-2006, 04:59 AM

The song from the dvd (exhaustion) should have easily been on the album, imo it's one of AM!'s best songs, ever.

Flagjacket

07-22-2006, 05:43 AM

TSR is the best AM! song.

Angry Balled Fists!

07-22-2006, 05:54 AM

It's definetley up there. I really really wish they played it when i saw them :(

POINTLESS5448

07-22-2006, 08:23 AM

its really short though.

viva la revolucion

07-22-2006, 01:03 PM

The reason they didint put ed is sexy or exaustion on the album is because ed is sexy doesnt fit well with the rest of the album, and for exaustion- they already had too many songs addressing whats addressed in that song (medicocrity gets you peers, unprotected sex with multiple partners). The "**** genres" thing was already redundant enough.

But those are in my opinion two of their best songs.

Fisticuff111

07-23-2006, 11:44 AM

I can't believe they didn't put 'Exhaustion' on SFAFC either. I thought it was far and away the best song on the stolen demo and it would have fit in so well on SFAFC. And 'Miami' ****ing slaughters!

Bad Blood

07-23-2006, 05:15 PM

Is Snowball Fight the poster formerly known as Bad Blood?

that's me :wave:

cavalier eternal must be one of the best acoustic/solo songs i've hear in a long long time.

ThisUserIsAPipebomb

07-23-2006, 05:17 PM

My favorite acoustic song of theirs, is We Did it All for Don

I think my favorite song overall, is between Waling is Still Honest, and Yall DOnt Wanna Step to Dis

Hungry Bald Fists

07-24-2006, 05:43 AM

Yall dont wanna step to dis is definetely one of my faves.

Fisticuff111

07-24-2006, 03:10 PM

My favorite Against Me! songs are 'Walking is Still Honest' and 'Y'all Don't Wanna Step to Dis'. In fact they are my teo favorite songs ever, by anybody. The new song off of the live album is pretty damn good. Catchy as hell, but not in a 'Don't Lose Touch' way. Anybody like it? I'm really excited about the 2007 Sire debut now :)

obese_breasts

07-26-2006, 03:36 PM

I'm just listening to the live album now and the new song is pretty good.

POINTLESS5448

07-26-2006, 04:27 PM

its out already? i thought it came out in like september/

Deconstruction

07-26-2006, 06:07 PM

I thought it was sept also?

Brain Toad

07-26-2006, 06:13 PM

It probably leaked.

Fisticuff111

07-26-2006, 08:55 PM

It leaked on slsk. The official release date is August 22nd I believe.

POINTLESS5448

07-26-2006, 11:32 PM

sweet i need to hit that up. how do albums get leaked anyway?

ps: i just made a pretty sweet mix of the best against me songs. theres like 25 of them or something on the cd.

Brain Toad

07-27-2006, 01:58 AM

Someone working with the record company steals the tape and puts it on the internet
The band puts it on the internet
It gets lost, some random person finds it and put its on the internet.

I think most times it's actually the second reason these days.

SantaDuJuan

07-27-2006, 02:13 AM

Is the album worth downloading if you don't go crazy about AM?

obese_breasts

07-27-2006, 02:20 AM

it's a good live recording, I think it does a pretty good job of capturing their live show, especially for Turn Those Hands Into Angry Balled Fists

TakeWarning

07-27-2006, 05:45 AM

Hmm I looked on Soulseek but didn't find it, which isn't surprising since my Soulseek sucks, so I guess i'll just have to wait until it comes out. :(

good rats

07-27-2006, 06:08 AM

Try searching for Americans Abroad. I couldn't find it when I just searched "Against Me"

Hungry Bald Fists

07-27-2006, 06:24 AM

Ysi Please

TakeWarning

07-27-2006, 09:56 AM

Yeah YSI sounds good.

sketchyjoe

07-27-2006, 05:02 PM

it's a good live recording, I think it does a pretty good job of capturing their live show, especially for Turn Those Hands Into Angry Balled FistsIt was a good gig.

obese_breasts

07-27-2006, 05:29 PM

they were awesome when I saw them too.

POINTLESS5448

07-28-2006, 12:34 AM

It was a good gig.
you were there?

thepo

07-28-2006, 12:42 AM

So Against Me! are gonna be on a Replacements tribute album.

http://www.wellinherittheearth.com/ has all the info about it, and if you go to tracklisting you get a small preview of the tracks. The Against Me! cover sounds like its gonna be really awesome, and there's also plenty of other great bands that are participating: The Ergs, Hi-Ho Six Shooter, The Queers, and This Is My Fist to name a few.

sketchyjoe

07-28-2006, 03:43 AM

That sounds awesome. The Replacements kick arse.

Flagjacket

07-28-2006, 09:19 AM

The Lemonheads > The Replacements.

Joeeddstealschickens

07-28-2006, 04:40 PM

you were there?

I was, front row, getting showered in Tom's sweat. It was a great night all round lol

sketchyjoe

07-28-2006, 04:59 PM

you were there?
Yes.

My main criticism of the live album is that it sounds too much like a studio album. Not enough crowd noise, banter or deviations in the songs.

POINTLESS5448

07-28-2006, 11:32 PM

**** that its awesome. good *** set list too. so much better than the one they did at warped.

TakeWarning

07-29-2006, 04:21 AM

One of the main things I like about live albums is that they figure out new variations of the song like a guitar solo or extended intro, but from what I've heard about American's Abroad it doesn't have anything like that.

Flagjacket

07-29-2006, 09:21 AM

I'm seeing them today!

Warped Tour!

horrorbusiness77

07-29-2006, 09:53 PM

could Somebody ysi Vivada Vis for me?

Deconstruction

07-29-2006, 10:04 PM

could Somebody ysi Vivada Vis for me?
just use
albumbase.com

blockhead

07-29-2006, 10:24 PM

One of my friends recently got me into Against Me! From what I've heard of them I really like. What are some of their best songs?

horrorbusiness77

07-29-2006, 11:44 PM

One of my friends recently got me into Against Me! From what I've heard of them I really like. What are some of their best songs?

I cant think of an against me! song that i dont like.

obese_breasts

07-30-2006, 01:18 AM

My Personal favorites (in no order):

Pints of Guiness Will Make You Strong
Walking Is Still Honest
Slurring the Rhythms
Turn Those Clapping Hands Into Angry Balled Fists
Disco Before the Breakdown
Tonight We're Gonna Give It 35%
Unamed Track on the Acoustic EP
Sink Florida Sink
T.S.R.
Those Anarcho Punx Are Mysterious
We Did It All For Don
I Still Love You Julie
We Laugh At Danger (And Break all the rules)

Angry Balled Fists!

07-30-2006, 05:54 AM

That is a good list ^^

Add in, Unsubstantiated Rumours and joy and you're set.

Henrik

07-30-2006, 06:02 AM

Yall dont wanna step to dis is definetely one of my faves.
I think it's their best song, just too bad they never play it live.

Also: Walking is still honest on RAR > Walking is still honest on crime.

TakeWarning

07-30-2006, 06:36 AM

Also: Walking is still honest on RAR > Walking is still honest on crime.

NO, NO, NO

Seriously, the Crime version is so much better.

Angry Balled Fists!

07-30-2006, 08:14 AM

Kieran is right.

All of the best Reinventing Axl Rose songs sound better when either palyed live or on other versions, seriously. The song RAR is about a million time better live as are all the other ones.

Flagjacket

07-30-2006, 09:41 AM

Alright so I saw AM! yesterday.

What a godamned disappointment. They played Problems, God's Ears, Two New Songs, Sink Florida Sink, and Cliche Guevara.

However, I did talk to Warren at the merch booth and made him look stupid. I was wearing my LAtterman shirt and he said trying to sound really cool, "Nice shirt. I know those guys." "Yeah, me too." "Oh uh.... small world." and then walked to the other end.

ibanezman575

07-30-2006, 09:49 AM

wow you sure owned him

Henrik

07-30-2006, 11:44 AM

Alright so I saw AM! yesterday.

What a godamned disappointment. They played Problems, God's Ears, Two New Songs, Sink Florida Sink, and Cliche Guevara.

If that's all they played it has been a pretty shi'tty setlist. What was the new songs like?

The Crime version of Walking is still honest has none of the energy which the RAR version has.

obese_breasts

07-30-2006, 07:45 PM

Pretty much any Against Me song is better live than on record.

sketchyjoe

07-30-2006, 08:05 PM

Pretty much any Against Me song is better live than on record.
Pretty much any song by a half-decent band is better live than on record.

Flagjacket

07-30-2006, 10:00 PM

If that's all they played it has been a pretty shi'tty setlist. What was the new songs like?

I can't describe it, but I'm not going to get into the keyboard.

filehelp

07-31-2006, 01:38 AM

HEy guys. Im a massive AM! fan with no musical talent
i really wanna be able to play along to somfing but the only thing i can play is harmonica.
does anyone know where i can find the harmonica tab to i am a citizen.
please reply if can

CHEEEEEEEEERs

good rats

07-31-2006, 02:23 AM

Easy enough.

-6 -7 7 -6 -7 7 -7 7 -7 -6

- meaning inhale

It's probably wrong though.

ThisUserIsAPipebomb

07-31-2006, 08:16 PM

I got my Disco Before the Breakdown 7" signed by everyone.

i am so erect.

i mean happy.

good rats

08-01-2006, 01:23 AM

My Disco 7" doesn't even play properly. I need to take it back.

Flagjacket

08-01-2006, 02:04 PM

I got my Disco Before the Breakdown 7" signed by everyone.
i am so erect.
i mean happy.

More like you got out of line because the girl behind you thought it was Anti Flag.

ThisUserIsAPipebomb

08-02-2006, 02:26 PM

More like you got out of line because the girl behind you thought it was Anti Flag.I did do that!

but then i went back later

Flagjacket

08-02-2006, 02:54 PM

Oh.

Liebensaft

08-02-2006, 05:54 PM

Against Me! tomorrow. And all the super awesome-tastic Warped Tour bands I can't wait to see. I wonder if I sit at the AM! table all day if they'll actually come there and chat.

Flagjacket

08-02-2006, 05:58 PM

Tom and Warren were both at the merch table at here's Warped Tour. If you see thm before their set, ask them to play certain songs.

Liebensaft

08-02-2006, 06:01 PM

I wish they would play stuff from Crime... or the acoustic. I know Tom won't bring an acoustic on stage. All the kids there would start crying if he played an acoustic song.

If I see him, I'll ask for Impact or Burn. Those would be splendid.

ThisUserIsAPipebomb

08-02-2006, 06:13 PM

Against Me! tomorrow. And all the super awesome-tastic Warped Tour bands I can't wait to see. I wonder if I sit at the AM! table all day if they'll actually come there and chat.Don't listen to Kevin. I saw everyone that day at the merch table.

Merch girl is kinda a bitch. Watch out.

Flagjacket

08-02-2006, 06:25 PM

THat was a merch guy Jack.

Converge#12

08-02-2006, 10:03 PM

Okay so call me an idiot but I want to book against me! for an intamite show sometime in the future. Theyre my favorite band and honestly I havent been able to get to any of there shows. The one I could have gone to I didnt because someone dear to me was sick. Some support and tips would be nice. Serious ways to raise money serious venues and ways to book them. Please dont be jerks about this.

echos

08-02-2006, 10:26 PM

Converge#12

08-02-2006, 10:46 PM

You'd have to talk to the record label?
I sent them an email they gave me the booking guys email. I sent him an email and am awaiting a reply.

ThisUserIsAPipebomb

08-02-2006, 11:12 PM

THat was a merch guy Jack.
There was both!

the girl sucked. the dude was cool and wore a lawrence arms shirt.

viva la revolucion

08-03-2006, 12:40 AM

There was both!

the girl sucked. the dude was cool and wore a lawrence arms shirt.

Was it jordan? The girl was a bitch when i saw them on the fat tour this winter.

Anarcho Poser

08-05-2006, 02:03 PM

So, I went to warped yesterday, and I was severely disappointed by Against Me!. They played 3 new songs, one of which really sucked, and mostly songs from Searching, plus Sink Florida Sink and Pints of Guinness, and one other that I can't remember. But every song they played was played reaaaaallly slow. Problems was slower than the recording. Also, Tom looks like ****.

Flagjacket

08-05-2006, 02:39 PM

Tom wears sunglasses now!

obese_breasts

08-05-2006, 03:49 PM

Tom looked pretty ****ed up when I saw them at warped, I don't think he opened his eyes the entire time, at least not enough for me too see anything but eye lid.

Anarcho Poser

08-05-2006, 04:11 PM

Tom wears sunglasses now!
He wasn't at all yesterday, even when they were signing stuff.

Flagjacket

08-05-2006, 04:41 PM

I saw him wearing sunglasses!

AIRIC

08-06-2006, 12:09 AM

Tom probably smokes crack now. That rock star.

obese_breasts

08-06-2006, 04:16 AM

he looked skinny as hell, it's possible.

Angry Balled Fists!

08-06-2006, 11:15 AM

Tom is scarily skinny.

sketchyjoe

08-06-2006, 11:54 AM

Coked up to his eyeballs.

manton

08-06-2006, 06:09 PM

Here's a video of a new song they played at the Los Angeles warped tour. Sounds great!

http://www.buzznet.com/tags/outcrowd/video/32004/?p=7

Anarcho Poser

08-06-2006, 09:07 PM

Here's a video of a new song they played at the Los Angeles warped tour. Sounds great!

http://www.buzznet.com/tags/outcrowd/video/32004/?p=7
it sounds like hell. The audio quality, I mean.

TakeWarning

08-06-2006, 11:18 PM

Yarr me hearty, 'tis poor sound quality, I can't really hear the song.

Although I did notice the chord progression sounded kinda cliche.

manton

08-06-2006, 11:58 PM

Sorry about the poor quality. I guess you're right about the chord progression, but it was the "whoa oh oh oh" chorus that did it for me. All the new songs I've heard thus far have been great, leading me to believe that their next album will be epic. I just hope they decide to put Ed Is Sexy on it, 'cause that song is the tits. It sounds like it would fit in with the other new songs, sound wise.

Anarcho Poser

08-07-2006, 02:43 AM

I fear the worst from this upcoming album. I was hoping to hear some new songs at warped that made me saigh and think to myself "Thank god. They're back." Chumbawumba style, you know?

Unfortunately, that's not what I heard.

TakeWarning

08-07-2006, 02:48 AM

Yeah, if they release two mediocre albums in a row I will be incredibly dissapointed.

manton

08-07-2006, 03:28 AM

I thought Clarity was good. Definitely not their best, but did anyone really expect them to top the 1-2 punch KO that is Reinventing and Eternal Cowboy?

Is it entirely pathetic that I've joined the forum primarily for this thread? I've been dyin' ever since the AM! boards closed, and the PIX boards aren't exactly the friendliest people in the world.

TakeWarning

08-07-2006, 04:39 AM

I didn't really expect them to blow me away with SFAFC but there's like 5 bad songs on it.

Anarcho Poser

08-07-2006, 10:39 AM

Everyone's allowed a crappy album once in a while, but two in a row... isn't good.

Liebensaft

08-07-2006, 12:16 PM

Tom wasn't wearing shades when I saw him at Warped, and he seemed pretty sober. He was smiling and alert, and didn't noticably mess anything up. He took his shirt off though, and was pretty skinny.

viva la revolucion

08-07-2006, 04:07 PM

Thats weird that you guys say hes skinny now. On the dvd he looks kinda chubby some of the time.

Scabies

08-07-2006, 05:15 PM

i've got an AM interview right in front of me which says they don't drink or nothing anymore?

sketchyjoe

08-07-2006, 05:15 PM

They're lying.Thats weird that you guys say hes skinny now. On the dvd he looks kinda chubby some of the time.He got pregnant then had a miscarriage from massive drug use.

Deconstruction

08-07-2006, 08:11 PM

Anyone else had an americans abroad hardcopy yet?

AIRIC

08-07-2006, 08:47 PM

I don't believe that they don't drink anymore.

Liebensaft

08-07-2006, 08:52 PM

I'm sure they do. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they were doing other things too.

edit: I know at least Andrew (bass) drinks, because I remember watching him pick up a can of Budweiser and pretty much chugging it at Warped.

POINTLESS5448

08-08-2006, 12:19 AM

what difference does it make if they do or dont anyway?

viva la revolucion

08-08-2006, 12:26 AM

i've got an AM interview right in front of me which says they don't drink or nothing anymore?

its only tom and warren that stopped.

The Fonz

08-08-2006, 11:18 AM

K, so i saw AM!, at warped. first band i saw. they were really good, a great band to start my day with.
Two songs in someone passes out apparently, and warrent stopped and pointed to them, and the band stopped, and they got pulled out. I think it was just because AM! were so awesome, or they just smoked too much pot.
So that like, made my day, plus i go to see warrens beard, which made me able to die happy.

Edit: If whoever posted that last lyrics thread about "**** it up, were gonna **** it up"....whoa....whoaa. reads this. yeah, anyway, that was totally sink florida sink. BUt yeah. the thread was closed so i just edited into my post here.

Anarcho Poser

08-08-2006, 11:37 AM

Speaking of warren's beard, what's up with andrew's hair?

ChokingVictim

08-09-2006, 01:14 AM

Against Me! are at the very top of my favourites list.

Reinventing Axl Rose is an amazing album, and is my favourite. It means a lot to me.
Eternal Cowboy is great too, and is what got me into the band.
Searching For A Former Clarity is pretty good. Obviously different, but has some killer tracks
Earlier EPs are all amazing.

I see them live in five days. I'm so excited.

viva la revolucion

08-09-2006, 02:24 AM

Holy **** i saw them at warped today and Tom honestly looks anorexic or on crack. Not even joking. Also by the two new songs they played it looks like theyre made the inevitable last step into just plain rock with no passion or speed.

Johnny Quest.

08-09-2006, 05:34 AM

I'm going watching them in about two weeks, and hearing all this stuff about bad new songs and dull sets is worrying me. It's a shame to see how they've gone from Reinventing (one of my favourite albums) to now. Ah well, just have to see how it goes.

ibanezman575

08-09-2006, 08:12 AM

seeing them today at warped

AIRIC

08-16-2006, 03:30 AM

They were on Jimmy Kimmel live tonight. They played 'From Her Lips..' and 'Problems'.

F'ucking typical. Against Me! are lame as hell now. I wanted to hear them play 'Impact' or 'What We Worked For'.

asdf

08-16-2006, 03:51 AM

Hey, it was better than the conan performance.

AIRIC

08-16-2006, 04:02 AM

I will agree with that.

manton

08-16-2006, 05:16 AM

Are you kidding me? You actually expect them to play two songs that they rarely, if ever, play anymore at regular shows, let alone a show broadcast all across america? Give me a break...It was an awesome performance.

Why are punks so bad at listening to music?

good rats

08-16-2006, 06:47 AM

We just don't like listening to **** music.

And against me! has better songs to offer to the american public than problems or dont lose touch.

TakeWarning

08-16-2006, 09:45 AM

We just don't like listening to **** music.

And against me! has better songs to offer to the american public than problems or dont lose touch.
Those Anarcho Punx Are Mysterious for the win.

Anarcho Poser

08-16-2006, 10:42 AM

they had more energy on jimmy kimmel than they did when i saw them at warped.

AIRIC

08-16-2006, 12:16 PM

Against Me! up until ATEC played the most passionate and hands down best music I've ever heard. Now they're assholes sellouts. They're sellouts. They suck now. They're new music sucks. SFAFC blows ***. There's no passion. Their new album will blow. Americans Abroad is a horrible song.

This is why they should play their old stuff.

POINTLESS5448

08-16-2006, 12:42 PM

they only played one old song when i saw them at warped.
and i agree americans abroad isnt a very good song. i liked atec, not as much as rar but i still liked it. sfafc wasnt anything special i just like miami due to the fact that i live there.

sketchyjoe

08-16-2006, 12:56 PM

SFAFC was a standard rock album. Okay if you look at in a vacuum but it pales in comparison compared to all their other stuff, it just doesn't seem to have any emotion behind it, except maybe disenchanted bitterness.

asdf

08-16-2006, 01:39 PM

I think even for a standard rock album, it's kind of lacking in the rock department.

Why does every song on the album seem to start slow?

sketchyjoe

08-16-2006, 05:52 PM

Because they are.

manton

08-16-2006, 05:54 PM

me likes punk

08-16-2006, 11:06 PM

No passion? Just because Tom isn't screaming all the time doesn't mean there isn't any passion. Joy, The Roller, Searching for a former clarity, justin....how can you not see the passion in those songs?! It just baffles me.

I totally agree, man

The reason it seems to lack passion is because the people that listen to it don't like it so it makes it harder to feel it.

sketchyjoe

08-17-2006, 07:07 AM

They aren't bad songs, they're a million times better than the crap that passes for rock music today, but compared to ATEC or RAR or Crime they're just boring.

Maybe there is feeling behind some of the songs, but it's no longer an appealing sentiment to me. Justin is a standard political rocker. The Roller is just bitter (and I've got nothing against bitterness, just the fact that here the bitterness is directed solely at their fans who made them what they are, that and the song isn't very good). SFAFC isn't a bad song, but it feels laboured to me. Joy is probably the best song on the album, or at least the one that stays truest to their old image.

If I want a good, catchy modern-rock album, I'll listen to SFAFC. If I want something that moves me and sends shivers down my spine, then I'll look to Crime or ATEC or RAR.

manton

08-18-2006, 11:37 PM

Why were sketchyjoe's and my posts deleted?

VacantRegime

08-19-2006, 06:32 AM

Their best songs, I'd say, are Sink, Florida, Sink and Jamaican Me Crazy.

Henrik

08-19-2006, 07:10 AM

I'm tired of listening to Sink, Florida, Sink. It just got boring somehow.

I listend to Ya'll don't wanna step to dis yesterday... That song is my favorite along with pints of guinness.

TakeWarning

08-19-2006, 10:38 AM

I got bored with Sink Florida Sink when we were singing it on our 57th drunken-Against-Me!-sing-a-long.

Teeb

08-19-2006, 08:29 PM

I saw Against Me! last moday. They ruled.

Set List (in no order)
Problems
Unprotected Sex with Multiple Partners
From Her Lips to God's Ears
Joy
Don't Lose Touch
TSR
Cliche Guevara
Sink Florida Sink
Rice and Bread
Pints of Guiness Make You Strong
I Still Love You Julie
Those Anarcho Punks Are Mysterious...
Reinventing Axl Rose
Walking is Still Honest
3 new songs

One thing that annoys me about SFAFC is that when Tom does scream, it sounds like he's trying to scream. Before it seemed more just pure passion, and him singing as loud/hard as he could.

Twin Human Highway Flares

08-19-2006, 08:52 PM

That is an awesome set list. They got the stuff I have no interest in out of the way before continuing on to the good stuff.

manton

08-20-2006, 12:29 AM

uhhh that's not the exact order, it's just the songs they played. Good setlist though.

holy_roller99

08-20-2006, 01:34 AM

just got Searching for a Former Clarity. it seems more rockish but is is a good album. gonna buy some more soon what woould you guys recommend?

Pirate Satellite

08-20-2006, 01:37 AM

Buy them in reverse order of their release. "Crime" is their best, I think, and then "Reinventing Axl Rose."

holy_roller99

08-20-2006, 01:55 AM

i have heard that Reinventing Axl Rose is pretty good. is it more punkish?

obese_breasts

08-20-2006, 02:33 AM

It's both more folky and more punk. It's a classic though.

holy_roller99

08-20-2006, 02:35 AM

i do like Searching for a Former Clarity though. Especially the title song. it is noce to go to sleep to.

Henrik

08-20-2006, 06:26 AM

I you think that searching for a former clarity is good then you really need to listen to the older stuff. It is sooo much better.
Get Reinventing Axl Rose as a starter.

sketchyjoe

08-20-2006, 06:28 AM

Then Crime, Acoustic EP and As The Eternal Cowboy.

Flagjacket

08-20-2006, 11:40 AM

Atec >

manton

08-20-2006, 04:59 PM

Crime is so overrated, it's not even their best EP. The Acoustic EP and Disco Before the Breakdown are so much better. Anyway, if you started with Searching then get the albums in reverse order.

I agree with flagjacket. Eternal Cowboy is definitely their best.

sketchyjoe

08-20-2006, 05:38 PM

I don't particularly like Disco Before the Breakdown. I do prefer Acoustic to Crime but Crime has 4 amazing tracks (Y'all Don't Want to Step to Dis, What We Worked For, Impact and my favourite version of Walking is Still Honest). I prefer RAR to ATEC but it's a very close thing, I can see how you could prefer either.

Twin Human Highway Flares

08-20-2006, 06:27 PM

I was really disappointed with RAR when I finally downloaded it. It was awesome, but nothing compared with Crime which I got a year or so before RAR and which blew me away. The versions of earlier songs on RAR aren't as good imo.

sketchyjoe

08-20-2006, 06:29 PM

Walking is Still Honest is worse on RAR but I Still Love You Julie is better. Compared to the Acoustic EP it depends what mood I'm in for all of them.

TakeWarning

08-21-2006, 08:11 AM

I prefer the Crime version of I Still Love You Julie.

Also, I find the RAR version of Walking Is Still Honest barely listenable compared to the Crime version.

AIRIC

08-21-2006, 02:12 PM

I think Crime is their best release ever. I've been addicted to it for probably a month or two now. Then ATEC and then RAR.

I hate I Still Love You Julie and Walking Is Still Honest on Crime, but the four other tracks make up for it completely. Especially Yall Dont Wanna Step To Dis

POINTLESS5448

08-21-2006, 04:16 PM

acoustic is still my favorite ep. eps are way to short and that annoys me.

manton

08-21-2006, 05:03 PM

I hate I Still Love You Julie and Walking Is Still Honest on Crime, but the four other tracks make up for it completely. Especially Yall Dont Wanna Step To Dis

I agree 100%. They're pretty much unlistenable to me because they're just so......boring. They're much more heartfelt and powerful on RAR.

sketchyjoe

08-21-2006, 05:22 PM

I disagree with that on Walking is Still Honest. The RAR version fits better with RAR but the Crime version is incredible with just as much heart.

AIRIC

08-21-2006, 07:53 PM

Listening to it, I Still Love You Julie is really boring on Crime. That's most likely why I don't really like it.

I don't skip a track generally out of respect for what Crime is.

TakeWarning

08-22-2006, 04:49 AM

I disagree with that on Walking is Still Honest. The RAR version fits better with RAR but the Crime version is incredible with just as much heart.

I'd say more heart.

It's really annoying how AM! have so many different versions of some of their songs.

Henrik

08-22-2006, 09:24 AM

thepo

08-22-2006, 03:16 PM

manton

08-22-2006, 05:06 PM

I still love you Julie on crime = RAR Version
Walking Is Still Honest on Crime <<< RAR Version
Jordans first Choice Acoustic >> RAR Version
Those Anarcho punx are Mysterious Acoustic <<<< RAR Version
Reinventing Axl Rose Acoustiv = RAR Version
Pints og Guinness make you strong acoustic <or= RAR Version

What makes Crime great instead of just good is Y'all Don't wanna step to dis and Burn.

I agree with all that but man, burn is one bad song. Seriously, it doesn't even mean anything. Tom said in an interview that that's why he doesn't play it anymore, because he doesn't know what the hell he was talking about. I think he just made it up as he went along.

http://www.myspace.com/wellinherittheearth

against me!'s cover of bastards of young is posted. Sounds great, but nothing can touch the original.

TakeWarning

08-23-2006, 09:37 AM

Burn is an awesome song.

Who cares if the lyrics are crap?

Henrik

08-23-2006, 11:46 AM

Burn is totally awesomeness... I agree with the lyrics being weird, but otherwise it's great.

Henrik

08-23-2006, 02:03 PM

Against Me! wrote this on their site:

For all of you Euro festival fans out there AM! is headed your way this summer. They're playing Pukkelpop in Hasselt Belgium on August 19th, Reading Festival is Saturday August 26th and Leeds is Sunday August 27th. If you yourself can not afford to go ABROAD! to experience Against Me! live, you're in luck. "Americans Abroad!!! Against Me!!! Live in London!!!", which is obviously a live recording, is out now! There's a bunch of places out there right now to order it from. Allow me to cut and past from another news item...Of course there's FAT WRECK CHORDS, then you've got good time rock and roll buddies NO IDEA RECORDS, your INTERPUNK, your SMARTPUNK and old man AMAZON.COM. Did we tell you there's a new studio record coming in 2007? Because there is. Look for it on Sire Records. You can't hate on a label that not only brought you the Ramones but also the Replacements. You just can't. Oh hey, that live record is streaming right now over at AP! Check it out by CLICKING HERE

AIRIC

08-23-2006, 02:12 PM

I'll hate on whoever the **** I want when it comes to Against Me!.

assholes.

sketchyjoe

08-23-2006, 04:12 PM

I just hope the next album does not completely blow. I'm not expecting something amazing, I just want a decent album.

Liebensaft

08-23-2006, 04:17 PM

As long as it's equal to or greater than SFAFC, I'll continue to maintain some belief that they can turn it around.

holy_roller99

08-23-2006, 04:21 PM

sfafc is the one Against me album i have and i like it. wish i would have gotten on eof their others though

Liebensaft

08-23-2006, 04:22 PM

It's not so much that SFAFC is bad. It's just that their other albums were so great, that this seems so poor and generic in comparison. In reality, it's an alright album. Probably a band I wouldn't look into much though, if it was their first album.

sketchyjoe

08-23-2006, 04:24 PM

The expectation was so high with SFAFC it was inevitable it wouldn't live up to it I think.

holy_roller99

08-23-2006, 04:27 PM

hey most punk bands were better in their early days. look at Bad Religion, AFI and the misfits. all awesome bands that were even beter in thier starting days when the creativity is fresh. on SFAFC the better songs are dont lose touch and the title track at the end.

AIRIC

08-23-2006, 10:49 PM

Don't Lose Touch is HORRIBLE.

I'm sorry man but that song is horrible.

ThisUserIsAPipebomb

08-24-2006, 12:25 AM

Is the live album worth purchasing?

manton

08-24-2006, 02:09 AM

ehhhh, probably not. It doesn't do a very good job of capturing their live show. The new song is definitely worth downloading though.

obese_breasts

08-24-2006, 02:27 AM

Don't buy it. It's nice to listen to, but not worth $14. Just download.

TakeWarning

08-24-2006, 05:53 AM

The expectation was so high with SFAFC it was inevitable it wouldn't live up to it I think.
That's true, whereas the expectations for their next album are going to be pretty low.

My expectations are pretty low anyhow.

manton

08-24-2006, 04:30 PM

Butch Vig is going to produce Against Me!'s major label debut.

http://punknews.org/article/19365

Butch has produced a lot of my favorite records, but I'm not really sure about this. All I can say is that I'm really stoked and excited about the new album. I'm 100% sure that most of their old fans will not dig it at all, but I know that from what I've heard so far that I definitely will.

Liebensaft

08-24-2006, 07:36 PM

My band has a show on Saturday. We're playing Impact.

sketchyjoe

08-24-2006, 07:56 PM

Are you a disco ****er for a new generation?

Liebensaft

08-24-2006, 08:31 PM

I will be. Actually, I'm just playing bass, and I think screaming the "IMPACT!!!"s.

Twin Human Highway Flares

08-24-2006, 11:53 PM

Me and my drummer jam to Turn Those Clapping Hands Into Angry Balled Fists, sans lyrics. I don't think our other guitarist is up to playing it, though. I've been planning on doing Tonight We're Gonna Give It 35% solo at a local talent show sometime.

Jersey's Best Dancer

08-25-2006, 12:04 AM

My band has a show on Saturday. We're playing Impact.

What's your band and where is it at (Even tho I couldnt go anyways cause i leave for vacation on saturday)?

holy_roller99

08-25-2006, 02:41 PM

Don't Lose Touch is HORRIBLE.

I'm sorry man but that song is horrible.

your opinion is your opinion. i just happen to like it. miami i think is a pretty bad beginning song on an album.

Liebensaft

08-25-2006, 03:28 PM

What's your band and where is it at (Even tho I couldnt go anyways cause i leave for vacation on saturday)?
My band is the Midnight Cowboys (http://www.myspace.com/themidnightcowboys). We're a pretty generic punk band I think. The show's at a YMCA in Harleysville, PA with some band from Delaware and this other band, Political Atrophy, who I assume suck, because all the kids in it are stupid and into street punk and Leftover Crack, and nothing else.

babaca

08-27-2006, 03:11 AM

hey, im sure this has been asked before, but im not about to search through 100+ odd pages of writing, so if anyone has some rare Against Me! songs, mainly the Cavalier Eternal EP, the Sink, Florida, Sink EP, the first Against Me! EP, or the song Bastards of Young (Replacements cover), i'd appreciate it.

soulseek = guitarded_babaca
e-mail = Shadow_in_the_Dark_@hotmail.com

thanks

Liebensaft

08-27-2006, 01:33 PM

ThisUserIsAPipebomb

08-27-2006, 01:39 PM

MalcolmXInTheMiddle

08-27-2006, 02:20 PM

Bastards of the Young isn't out yet, I've got Cavalier Eternal and the first Against Me! EP on Soulseek.

Username: sketchyjoe

asdf

08-27-2006, 02:53 PM

Room on slsk: allthehubub

I guarantee you'll find whatever AM! stuff you want there.

Our show went ok. We did the best we could, given the conditions of the venue (a huge gymnasium). Impact went good, and I ended up screaming at least half of the "IMPACT!!!!"s.
Playing in a gym sucks, but it's good that it went well for you.

holy_roller99

08-27-2006, 08:33 PM

Playing in a gym sucks, but it's good that it went well for you.

agreed. on my last bands last show, we played a school gym and the echoing from the bare walls made my voice sound horrible. right now i am trying to start a new band and need a drummer. that is it.

AIRIC

08-27-2006, 08:37 PM

I'm gonna start a band and it's going to be better than Against Me!

holy_roller99

08-27-2006, 08:39 PM

everyone has goals. but it sux because my friend who was our last drummer is a p'ussywhiped moron.damn i am stuck between a rock and a hard place.

asdf

08-27-2006, 08:45 PM

agreed. on my last bands last show, we played a school gym and the echoing from the bare walls made my voice sound horrible. right now i am trying to start a new band and need a drummer. that is it.
Yeah, my band played in a battle of the bands at my school in a gym. It was terrible. My amp was really low. Our drummer was really intoxicated. Everything was echoing.

I really miss my band, though. It had nothing to do with punk, but I loved what we did. Now I'll have to go find a new group of people, which seems to be very difficult.

SantaDuJuan

08-27-2006, 08:46 PM

everyone has goals. but it sux because my friend who was our last drummer is a p'ussywhiped moron.damn i am stuck between a rock and a hard place.
I dunno, being a drummer and trying to make a band is hard.
Partly because it seems like anyone in my town that likes Punk or something has to be a bad musician.

holy_roller99

08-27-2006, 08:51 PM

no he only did it as a hobby but the thing is until he started going out with this psychotic b'itch he was excellent. if he kept going he could have been professional studio musician. and besides everyone around here is into metal old and new or you get the hip hop people. i here from my sister everyday taht "punk sux" but then i go tell her to go fornicate hersef with a lamp post.

babaca

08-29-2006, 01:59 AM

Room on slsk: allthehubub

I guarantee you'll find whatever AM! stuff you want there.

Our show went ok. We did the best we could, given the conditions of the venue (a huge gymnasium). Impact went good, and I ended up screaming at least half of the "IMPACT!!!!"s.

whenever i go on soulseek this room is never there... and to all those people i added on soulseek who said they had it, you're never online!! :P

sketchyjoe

08-29-2006, 06:43 AM

Right click on the room list then click "Create Room" and type in allthehubub (case sensitive).

Johnny Quest.

08-29-2006, 09:30 AM

Got back from the Leeds Festival yesterday, Against Me! were pretty damn good. The set list was OK, but nothing special, they did about 2 or 3 new songs which sounded pretty decent, but it's not what you should do at a festival, the crowd are there to hear the classics. The crowd was hot for them, and they looked like they were really having fun onstage, i think it was because they were back in a smaller venue.

Setlist (form what i remember, in no order)

Cliche Guevara
TSR
Sink Florida Sink
Unprotected Sex
From Her Lips to God's Ears
Pints Of Guiness
Reinventing Axl Rose
Rice and Bread
New Song
New Song

One of the songs was probably Americans Abroad, i'd definately go and see them again though.

TakeWarning

08-29-2006, 10:24 AM

Right click on the room list then click "Create Room" and type in allthehubub (case sensitive).

You know, everytime I do that, it says I'm the only one in the room.

Liebensaft

08-29-2006, 03:37 PM

Make sure you don't make it allthehubbub. It has to be exactly "allthehubub."

dirtypirate337

08-29-2006, 07:35 PM

Me and the guitar player from my band were playing Against Me! songs outside Wal-mart yesterday underneath a "no loitering" sign. We were playing "Baby, I'm an Anarchist", and when we sang "I was burning that f'ucker and raising my black flag high" this woman got mad and we had the manager called on us. We told him we were taking down the establishment.

ThisUserIsAPipebomb

08-29-2006, 07:36 PM

That's cute. Me and my friend just learned Pints of Guinness last night on our acoustics.

Liebensaft

08-29-2006, 09:46 PM

Stringing* my black flag high. You really stuck it to the man, man.

babaca

08-29-2006, 10:32 PM

Make sure you don't make it allthehubbub. It has to be exactly "allthehubub."

i do that, but it still says im the only one in that room. i mean, maybe its because i go on soulseek really late at night or early in the morning, but there is never anyone there.

anyways, does anyone know if Against Me! has ever played the song "Violence" live?

manton

08-30-2006, 12:00 AM

They played Violence when I saw them in San Diego with Alkaline Trio. It was a really great performance.

ThisUserIsAPipebomb

08-30-2006, 12:26 AM

They played Violence when I saw them in San Diego with Alkaline Trio. It was a really great performance.GOD!!!

I almost shot myself when I couldn't go see them with Alk3.

That would have been an amazing show. God. :upset:

manton

08-30-2006, 01:07 AM

It reallly was an amazing show, probably one of the top 3 shows I've seen. Against Me! played all the favorites and then Alk3 came on and played for 1.5-2 hours. It was nuts.

babaca

08-30-2006, 02:06 AM

once again, i dont know if this has been asked, because im not about to go through 112 pages of crap, but does anybody know who Evelyn is/was? I mean, in the RAR cd it has pictures of her and Jason, and she's obviously in the song "Pints of Guiness Make You Strong". and you can assume she's dead. but was she just a friend of Tom's? family? lover?

Johnny Quest.

08-30-2006, 05:25 AM

sketchyjoe

08-30-2006, 07:25 AM

I'm fairly sure she's his grandmother.

Henrik

08-30-2006, 11:01 AM

Yeah, I think so too.

Johnny Quest.

08-31-2006, 06:37 AM

Anyone else think ...Clarity isn't as bad as everyone thinks, OK, it's not RAR, but's just about on a par with ATEC. It's really grown on me as of late.

Angry Balled Fists!

08-31-2006, 08:08 AM

nah because ATEC is their best album. searching for a former clarity isnt a bad album, ive always liked it.

sketchyjoe

08-31-2006, 08:30 AM

Joy is probably the only song on SFAFC that would fit on their other albums.

Deconstruction

08-31-2006, 04:56 PM

I thought that SFAFC was good, just not good enough to be ATEC or RAR.

ThisUserIsAPipebomb

08-31-2006, 05:09 PM

Joy is probably the only song on SFAFC that would fit on their other albums.
I was thinking that the other day too. It really fits in better than most songs on that album.

Which I continue to find nothing special. Definetly not on par with ATEC or RAR. Especially not RAR, but not ATEC either.

Brain Toad

08-31-2006, 06:47 PM

Anyone else think ...Clarity isn't as bad as everyone thinks, OK, it's not RAR, but's just about on a par with ATEC. It's really grown on me as of late.

I've always been in the minority of those who like SFAFC as much as any of their other stuff. Holy **** is my favorite AM! song.

AIRIC

08-31-2006, 09:36 PM

Holy **** blows.

Liebensaft

08-31-2006, 11:05 PM

Tensions are running high aboard the S.S. MX.

I'm going to have to listen to SFAFC again very soon. The only songs on it I'm real familiar with are the ones they always play at shows/on tv.

sketchyjoe

09-01-2006, 10:41 AM

I've always been in the minority of those who like SFAFC as much as any of their other stuff. Holy **** is my favorite AM! song.Seriously Nick, Holy **** is a boring rock song. It has nowhere near the intensity of emotion, the lyrical poignancy and catchiness of anything on Crime, Acoustic, ATEC or RAR. If that is your favourite AM! song, you have no soul. You like content, not music.

Brain Toad

09-01-2006, 11:57 AM

Seriously Nick, Holy **** is a boring rock song. It has nowhere near the intensity of emotion, the lyrical poignancy and catchiness of anything on Crime, Acoustic, ATEC or RAR. If that is your favourite AM! song, you have no soul. You like content, not music.
That's a nice opinion.

The lyrics aren't mind-blowingly amazing, sure, whatever. But I like them. They are catchy to me. I find myself singing them all the time. I like playing it on guitar, I like listening to it, and that's all that really matters.

And if you can only appreciate a song for it's "intensitiy in emotion" or "poignancy", the maybe you are the one who doesn't like music.

Flagjacket

09-01-2006, 12:57 PM

Holy **** is like a country song and Nick likes those dudes with the acoustics.

holy_roller99

09-01-2006, 01:01 PM

it is not as great as the other songs on SFAFC. the title song is pretty good and somethin you can just sit and play on your acoustic.

sketchyjoe

09-01-2006, 02:11 PM

That's a nice opinion.

The lyrics aren't mind-blowingly amazing, sure, whatever. But I like them. They are catchy to me. I find myself singing them all the time. I like playing it on guitar, I like listening to it, and that's all that really matters.

And if you can only appreciate a song for it's "intensitiy in emotion" or "poignancy", the maybe you are the one who doesn't like music.
You're talking out of your arse. A song is okay if it's catchy. For a song to be special it has to have something more than that. Holy **** doesn't, to me at least, maybe it speaks to you, but you've just admitted you don't think the lyrics are that great. I listen to plenty of music for the rhythm or the hooks, but they're not as good as the music I listen to because it has a passion that I can identify with.
Holy **** is like a country song and Nick likes those dudes with the acoustics.
And I don't like country at all.

manton

09-01-2006, 02:32 PM

Opinions are a-holes. Holy **** rules, as does the entire Clarity album.

sketchyjoe

09-01-2006, 02:38 PM

Opinions are a-holes. Holy **** rules, as does the entire Clarity album.Nick's get reamed?
Cheap shot but I couldn't resist.

Music means more to me than just something I like to play along to on my bass, or to just nod my head to. I'm sorry, but that's the way I am.

I just don't see how anyone could compare SFAFC to what came before it, unless you can relate to songs about being part of a scene or something where people are having fun and then becoming more and more aloof until the people who helped get you where you are don't like you anymore.

Oh, right. I just got it.

thepo

09-01-2006, 03:35 PM

Nick's get reamed?
Cheap shot but I couldn't resist.

Music means more to me than just something I like to play along to on my bass, or to just nod my head to. I'm sorry, but that's the way I am.

I just don't see how anyone could compare SFAFC to what came before it, unless you can relate to songs about being part of a scene or something where people are having fun and then becoming more and more aloof until the people who helped get you where you are don't like you anymore.

Oh, right. I just got it.

And of all the things we'd ask, out of all the ways we'd like for it to be,
they're just drunken conversations,
song lyrics sung at the top of our lungs so desperately like:
"I believe in a power that is of and by the people
I believe in an art that cannot be compromised.
I believe that all will endure, and all will overcome.
And I will sing it until I no longer remember the reason."

What was the reason?

Yeah, those lyrics can only be specific to what you're saying, and suck.

I like ATEC way better than SFAFC, but seriously, why are you trying to convince Nick that his favorite Against Me! song isn't that good or worthy of being passionate enough? Who cares? People listen to music for different reasons.

Brain Toad

09-01-2006, 06:22 PM

.
I like ATEC way better than SFAFC, but seriously, why are you trying to convince Nick that his favorite Against Me! song isn't that good or worthy of being passionate enough? Who cares? People listen to music for different reasons.

Ding ding ding winnah winnah!

ThisUserIsAPipebomb

09-01-2006, 10:39 PM

Why doesn't anyone call Crime, Crime as forgiven by? Or Reinventing Axl Rose, Is Reinventing Axl Rose?

Those are little letters on the front of albums, gone to waste.

Brain Toad

09-01-2006, 10:40 PM

I've seen Crime as Crime as Forgiven By, I think that's how I have it labeled on my mp3s.

Never seen RAR with the I.

I think it's because of the awkward use of Against Me! in saying it. i.e. "Have your heard Against Me!'s Crime as Forgiven By Against Me!? or Against Me!'s Against Me! is Reinventing Axl Rose?

ThisUserIsAPipebomb

09-01-2006, 10:47 PM

Probably. And yeah, I have Crime as Crime as Forgiven by in my ipod, but I don't have the Is on RAR.

Oh well. Their waste of ink I suppose.

Flagjacket

09-02-2006, 12:53 AM

Is as forgiven by

sketchyjoe

09-02-2006, 02:15 PM

And of all the things we'd ask, out of all the ways we'd like for it to be,
they're just drunken conversations,
song lyrics sung at the top of our lungs so desperately like:
"I believe in a power that is of and by the people
I believe in an art that cannot be compromised.
I believe that all will endure, and all will overcome.
And I will sing it until I no longer remember the reason."

What was the reason?

Yeah, those lyrics can only be specific to what you're saying, and suck.

I like ATEC way better than SFAFC, but seriously, why are you trying to convince Nick that his favorite Against Me! song isn't that good or worthy of being passionate enough? Who cares? People listen to music for different reasons.I was clearly talking about the entire album with that comment.

I'm just stating my opinion. I know I won't change anyone's mind.

Twin Human Highway Flares

09-04-2006, 11:47 PM

I watched "We're Never Going Home" today and I'm wondering about the part where that Welsh guy is talking about Axl doing voodoo on little Against Me! puppets after hearing about RAR. Did that actually happen? Or is it speculation that can't be proven? If it did happen, it's damn funny.

AIRIC

09-04-2006, 11:49 PM

Hahaha that part is funny I've wondered if that's true too.

Johnny Quest.

09-05-2006, 05:09 AM