The Official Against Me! Thread

[Liebensaft]

No one dies, READY to die just yetttttttttttt.
No, I'm not ready to die just yetttttttt*:thumb:

[DaveToopes]

You're too late.

[AIRIC]

It's funny, in the 8th grade I listened to that album 3 or 4 times every day, and I claim that AM! are my favorite band (though not as much anymore) and I still constantly screw up lyrics.


Also, stop correcting me. What I say goes.

[Liebensaft]

What you say only went in the land of gnar, which already lived out its short reign.

[Flagjacket]

I like the electrice version of Unsubstatiated Romurs better than the ATEC one.

[AIRIC]

What you say only went in the land of gnar, which already lived out its short reign.

You guys rode my **** so hard for like 2 weeks. It was worth it, that was only supposed to last an hour and a half. Gnar will be back if I ever get bored.

[Liebensaft]

I was surprised it lasted more than a day.

[AIRIC]

Me too.

[Flagjacket]

Me and Ethan should start an anrchist forum, and EVERYONE is a mod. I say me and Ethan because I just serenaded him with my AIM cover of Punks With Clean Kitchens.

[Liebensaft]

Forums aren't very PUNKROCKANARCHY.

[Flagjacket]

Why not? A forum in Roman times was a place where everyone could come to discuss their ideas freely. As long as you were a fairly rich male.

[Liebensaft]

The internet is part of the system, man. When you use the internet, you become part of the system!

[Fisticuff111]

I like the electrice version of Unsubstatiated Romurs better than the ATEC one.

Yeah. Me too.




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[DaveToopes]

Kevin letz do it!

[Flagjacket]

Punk!

[viva la revolucion]

They will break up within 1-2 years.

its inevitable

[AIRIC]

I hope so.

[rawdog]

They will break up within 1-2 years.

its inevitable
I also think they will.

[Fisticuff111]

I think they will break up within the next couple years as well. I don't hope they do by any means, as (I believe) they are still putting out 'good' music. I guess I'm just one of those people that thinks it's better to fade away than burn out.

[TakeWarning]

I doubt they will, why's everyone so sure that they will?

[AIRIC]

I'm not really sure if they will or not, but God I hope so.

[TakeWarning]

I hope not, I still enjoy them very much.

[Weezerfan_returns]

their last album was badass. I hope they don't breakup, or at least i hope they don't start sucking.

[sketchyjoe]

The last album was average. It was a decent pop-punk album but their EPs and RAR show that they're capable of so much more. They've lost their former clarity and I'll doubt they'll get it back.

[Fisticuff111]

The last album was average. It was a decent pop-punk album but their EPs and RAR show that they're capable of so much more. They've lost their former clarity and I'll doubt they'll get it back.

I agree completely, but y'know evet at their worst they're still better than most:p . Although SFAFC was (by far) their weakest album yet, I stilled enjoyed it. And I think they can still put out some 'good' records, just not great ones anymore.

[DaveToopes]

I wish they would break up.

[AIRIC]

Me too. They're pretty much dead to me and I'm positive I won't like their new stuff.

[Sod the neighbours]

/rancid dan btw

Last month ive enjoyed SFAFC soooo much, it's really really good and anyway, im sooooo excited for Saturday ngihts show in leeds, it should be immense, anyone else happen to be goign ?

Catch ya in a while.

[AIRIC]

Where have you been?

[Sod the neighbours]

Doing work, goign out and having fun etc.

It's been cool.

I've mainly been preparing for my Art exam in a few days, i wanna do really well. Then i'll be doign revision for my final exams and other ltos of stuff.

I've been busy.

[Flagjacket]

Would you guys change your minds if their Sire album is good?

[sketchyjoe]

I'm not expecting it to be bad, but I'm not expecting it to be great either. The thing is, one of the main reasons that Reinventing Axl Rose and their earlier stuff was so great was due to the lyrics, the sort of lyrics they can't put on a major label album without being incredibly hypocritical.

[Iron Bug]

The last album was average. It was a decent pop-punk album but their EPs and RAR show that they're capable of so much more. They've lost their former clarity and I'll doubt they'll get it back.
Maybe they should search for it! Heh pun....

[Liebensaft]

I'm not expecting it to be bad, but I'm not expecting it to be great either. The thing is, one of the main reasons that Reinventing Axl Rose and their earlier stuff was so great was due to the lyrics, the sort of lyrics they can't put on a major label album without being incredibly hypocritical.
12346.

[Unban Me Says Cameo]

Didn't someone a while ago say they had a better version of Vivada Vis? Man, I wish I had a cleaner cut.

[AIRIC]

I have it.

[SantaDuJuan]

Against Me!
More like Against Good.


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I still want to see them live again.

[DaveToopes]

So you can get your pen15 touched again?

[imnotapunk]

Has anyone seen AM! in the UK and if so was they any good cos im going to see them on sunday and dont realy know what to expect

[AIRIC]

I'm sure they will be good.

[TakeWarning]

They're excellent live.

[Alkaline Prime]

They are still great live. They like to mix up their shows too.
Saw them 3 nights in a row last month and when I was talking to warren on the first night he said they were playing a different set every night. The man came through and I had the best weekend of my life.

Friday night was a good mix of mostly old stuff with new stuff. Saturday was a brilliant set list with tons of old stuff..and my favourite Walking is still honest. Sunday they had a "secret" show. it was really small and casual..and I was falling onto the stage hehe. It was a fun set too..most of the new stuff, but the other half was older stuff you wouldn't expect to hear. Tom played an awesome new song that he said he had new played in front of anyone but the band, and they closed with the disco after the breakdown.

I had plenty of time to talk with the guys in the crowd and backstage. Nicest guys. New album isn't as close to me as the old stuff but I found it really grew on me.

[Sod the neighbours]

OK, AM! WAS ABSOLUTLEY AMAZING.

Seriously, so much energy, passion and stuff from the crowd and the band, they also picked such an aweosme setlist.
I got on stage and shook toms hand too, which was cool and my mate got his plectrum. The only songs i wish they played was TSR and Jordans first choice. They were selling the Disco before the breakdown ep, but it sold out and the end of the show, so i got the live dvd instead.

Setlist: (not in proper order)

Walking is still honest
From her lips to gods ears
Reinventing Axl Rose
Unprotected Sex With Multiple Partners
Sink Florida Sink
Don't Lose Touch
Miami
Those Anarcho Punks and Mysterious
Turn those clapping hands into angry ballad fists
Rice and Bread
Problems
You look like i need a drink
Pints of guinness makes you strong
and a song i didn't recognise, maybe a new one

Encore:
Impact
We laugh at danger (and break all the rules)

Best song live was probably Those Anarcho Punks are mysterious.

[sketchyjoe]

That sounds like an awesome setlist. I hope they play something similar on Tuesday.

[TakeWarning]

Glad, you enjoyed yourself Daniel.

That sounds like the same kinda thing they played last time I saw them.

[Sod the neighbours]

Yeah, it raelly was great. 5 songs from RAR was great.

[Henrik]

Impact

AWESOME. I didn't knew they still play stuff from crime.

[sketchyjoe]

Yeah, it raelly was great. 5 songs from RAR was great.And just about the five best songs on RAR in my opinion. As longs as they play Pints of Guiness... I've be happy.

[Sod the neighbours]

Yeah, Impact was one of my faves which they played, i was suprised to here it, i'd have preffered Jordans First Choice over We laugh at danger, from RAR is the only swap really.

[imnotapunk]

Im goin to see them tonight and from what every one has said they should be good. I hope they do play Those Anarcho Punks are mysterious because its one of my favorite songs

[asdf]

When I saw them the first song the played was Those Anarcho Punks. I was so happy, because that's possibly my favorite song, and definitely my favorite one to sing along to. I had gotten my 8 dollars worth just for that.

[DaveToopes]

I would love to hear Impact at an AM! show.

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

I would love to hear Impact at an AM! show.Yeah, I was thinking that when I saw that they were playing near me. I was wondering if they'd play anything from any of the EPs. I guess I'm lucky. I'd rather hear "Yall Dont Want to Step to Dis" or "Tonight We're Gonna Give it 35%"

[Alkaline Prime]

They played impact down here at one Show too which was unbelievable. Definately something to be

[Weezerfan_returns]

it's kind of weird that they're on warped... but i'm glad. Much better lineup than last year, with The Bouncing Souls, AM!, nofx. I really wish AFI would come to wisconsin :(

[asdf]

My friend was very distraught as he told me that Against Me! is playing at Warped Tour.

[obese_breasts]

I almost shat myself when they played Impact when I saw them a few months back.

[Weezerfan_returns]

I didn't like Jordan's First Choice very much until I heard the Acoustic EP... that thing is incredible.

[Anarcho Poser]

I would love to hear Impact at an AM! show.
They played it both times I saw them.

I'm really wondering about this Sire deal. They're nothing on sire's website still, or anything. Has it been confirmed as a cruel, cruel joke yet?

[Weezerfan_returns]

They played it both times I saw them.

I'm really wondering about this Sire deal. They're nothing on sire's website still, or anything. Has it been confirmed as a cruel, cruel joke yet?
i doubt it

[sketchyjoe]

I'm seeing them tonight. It should be good. I was listening to SFAFC today and the intro to Don't Lose Touch really reminds me of You Can Get It If YOu Really Want by Jimmy Cliff.

[viva la revolucion]

They played it both times I saw them.

I'm really wondering about this Sire deal. They're nothing on sire's website still, or anything. Has it been confirmed as a cruel, cruel joke yet?

Its not on their myspace either.

[TakeWarning]

They did sign to Sire, they told me face-to-face that they had a new album coming out on Sire records.

[sketchyjoe]

OK, AM! WAS ABSOLUTLEY AMAZING.

Seriously, so much energy, passion and stuff from the crowd and the band, they also picked such an aweosme setlist.
I got on stage and shook toms hand too, which was cool and my mate got his plectrum. The only songs i wish they played was TSR and Jordans first choice. They were selling the Disco before the breakdown ep, but it sold out and the end of the show, so i got the live dvd instead.

Setlist: (not in proper order)

Walking is still honest
From her lips to gods ears
Reinventing Axl Rose
Unprotected Sex With Multiple Partners
Sink Florida Sink
Don't Lose Touch
Miami
Those Anarcho Punks and Mysterious
Turn those clapping hands into angry ballad fists
Rice and Bread
Problems
You look like i need a drink
Pints of guinness makes you strong
and a song i didn't recognise, maybe a new one

Encore:
Impact
We laugh at danger (and break all the rules)

Best song live was probably Those Anarcho Punks are mysterious.
They played TSR instead of Impact for the penultimate song when I saw them.

[AIRIC]

TSR > Impact

[sketchyjoe]

Definitely.


Seriously, someone else listen to Don't Lose Touch. There's a moment in it when it sounds exactly like You Can Get It If You Really Want.

[viva la revolucion]

TSR > Impact

No way, impact>most AM! songs

[Flagjacket]

My favorite AM! songs are like this:

All of Crime, We Laugh At Danger, Reinventing Axl Rose, Tonight WE're Gonna Give It 35%, Porblems, Pretty Girls, and FromH er Lips To God's Ears.

[AIRIC]

Oh hey Mr. 13 posts you have no say okay thank you.

[Fisticuff111]

Oh hey Mr. 13 posts you have no say okay thank you.

Because he has less posts his opinion is less valid than yours?

[sketchyjoe]

Welcome to the internets buddy. It's a cruel cold world out here.

[iam2000pounds]

Because he has less posts his opinion is less valid than yours?
Yep.

[good rats]

TSR > Impact
It's true.

I don't see what's so great about Impact..

[obese_breasts]

viva la revolucion, did you used to post on the AM! forums?

[viva la revolucion]

Oh hey Mr. 13 posts you have no say okay thank you.

Sorry i dont spend all my free time on a ****ing forum. And just so you know ive been here since october 2002 i just made a new name so shut up. You have 9000 posts, get off the computer and get a life.


And nah ive never been on the AM! forums.

[AIRIC]

Jokes on the internet. JEEZ.

Also, telling me to get a life isn't very offensive to me at all. It's very easy to balance a social life and using the internet.

[Permanent Solution]

http://www.asuwebdevil.com/issues/2006/03/31/arts/696440
Interview with my school newspaper for any interested parties.

[Flagjacket]

What is a black shirt punk style?

[Liebensaft]

I'm not sure.

[TakeWarning]

TSR > Impact

Yeah, by a long way.

[me likes punk]

I am absolutely in love with, "I Still Love You Julie" lately. Great song.

[TakeWarning]

I Still Love You Julie is one of my favourite songs by them.

[xFEAR-AND-LOATHINGx]

Is it me or does Against Me! have along of songs that mention the music industry on their new album?

and am i the only one that it kinda bothers?

[DaveToopes]

Yeah dude you're the only one. As far as I'm concerned they haven't changed a bit.

[Permanent Solution]

I'm seeing Against Me again tomorrow night. Woot.

[me likes punk]

Lucky

[TakeWarning]

They're insane in the membrane live.

[Lazybassplr56]

I didn't really like the new video. It's a good song though.

[canvasOBSCURE]

Are there any bands like them that I should check out?

And why is reinventing better?

Johnny Hobo And The Freight Trains
www.johnnyhobo.com

Defiance, Ohio

Ghost Mice

Evil Robot US'

alot of bands on plan-it-x records sound like against me!, also check out any anti-folk band.

[AIRIC]

I just put on RAR and it's pretty boring.

[Permanent Solution]

SO I just saw them. They were awesome. I can post my show review on request or you can check it out in Pop-Punks' concert thread.

Only a 40 minute set though sadly.

[TakeWarning]

Yeah, they do pretty short sets, it's gay.

[Mannik]

No way, when I saw them it seemed like about an hour

[Flagjacket]

Yeah, both times I saw Against Me their set was over an hour.

[Fisticuff111]

I just put on RAR and it's pretty boring.

You must be destroyed :angry:

[DaveToopes]

You'll soon learn that enough is enough.

[AIRIC]

Do you agree that it's gotten a bit stale?

[Liebensaft]

No way.

I'm seeing them in less than two weeks. This time my plans aren't falling out. I have tickets. Woot.

[DaveToopes]

Do you agree that it's gotten a bit stale?

Yes. I listened to RAR today and I wasn't that impressed. It's good, but it doesn't do for me what it used to.

[Anarcho Poser]

So I dunno if anyone (or everyone) has seen it yet, but the video for From Her Lips To God's Ears is awful. awful awful awful.

http://videos.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=videos

[Brain Toad]

The remix is awful too.

[TakeWarning]

I still think RAR is pretty good, but ATEC is better.

[Henrik]

I'm also beginning to lean towards As the eternal cowboy. It's really a great album.

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

So I dunno if anyone (or everyone) has seen it yet, but the video for From Her Lips To God's Ears is awful. awful awful awful.

http://videos.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=videosThat is a ****ing abomination.



RAR will alsways be better than ATEC. ATEC is good, and the first record I got by AM! but it's not as good as RAR.

[Flagjacket]

Nope, ATEC is AM!'s best album.

[TakeWarning]

You're right.

[AIRIC]

Agreed.

[Fisticuff111]

Disagreed. RAR is their best album by far. Greatest album of all-time IMO.

[AIRIC]

It'll get boring man, sorry to break it to you.

[Fisticuff111]

It'll get boring man, sorry to break it to you.

Been listening to it for two years now, still not boring. Just because it gets boring to you doesn't mean it will to everyone else, different ears man. Sorry? Really? For what? 'Breaking' an opinion to me, oh yeah, that was devastating...

[AIRIC]

Okay but really it's gonna get boring.

[Flagjacket]

Fisticuff is a doitchbag anyway.

[Henrik]

Been listening to it for two years now, still not boring. Just because it gets boring to you doesn't mean it will to everyone else, different ears man. Sorry? Really? For what? 'Breaking' an opinion to me, oh yeah, that was devastating...
He is right.
But right now I personally need a RaR break.

[Sid]

Are you guys kidding? Whether one has become boring or not, ATEC is a pretty poor album.

But opinions are like a'ssholes, amirite?

[Liebensaft]

Well, you've got your dicks, your pussies, and your assholes.

[Brain Toad]

Both ATEC and RAR are pretty average for me.

[Flagjacket]

ATEC is amazing, as is Against Me! in general.

[sketchyjoe]

ATEC is alright. RAR is great.

[fatpunk]

this band is so so much better live
http://punknews.org/article.php?sid=14686&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

[Flagjacket]

Against Me! is amazing in audio or live. Sink Florida Sink is amazing live.

[TakeWarning]

Yeah Sink Florida Sink is hella fun to sing along too.

[feldwebel]

anybody go to the show in nürnberg/germany 12.05. this year?

[Liebensaft]

Ich glaube dass wir nicht so viel Deutsche Mennsch hier haben.

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

Ich glaube dass wir nicht so viel Deutsche Mennsch hier haben.
Stimmt. Ich glaube das auch.


Has anyone heard the Cavalier Eternal 7"?

[Henrik]

Ich glaube dass wir nicht so viele Deutsche Mennschen hier haben.
I think I fixed it.:cool:

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

I think I fixed it.:cool:
Wow. I didn't even pick up on that.


I'm ashamed of my german.

[Flagjacket]

Ich bin ien Berliner!

[Brain Toad]

Ich bin ien Berliner!

Donut!

[Henrik]

Wow. I didn't even pick up on that.


I'm ashamed of my german.
I'm ashamed of both my german and my english.

[Flagjacket]

that guy ROT should be ashamed of himself in general.

[Liebensaft]

I think I fixed it.:cool:
Thanks. My grammar skills are steadily improving, but I can get my point across.

[Fisticuff111]

How's this for awesome ****ing news? I just got an e-mail from Jordan (the guy that answers e-mail's at AM!'s website) that they are in the process of remastering the S/T 12" and it should be released next year "hopefully". SWEET!!! :chug:

[Flagjacket]

remastering iz 4 bnds who sck dix.

[Fisticuff111]

Hey Flagjacket. Wanna be my friend?

[AIRIC]

They've remastered both Vivida Vis and the self titled EP and both still sound the same and both aren't that good :(

[Liebensaft]

They'd be a lot better if you could hear any of the stuff.

[Fisticuff111]

They've remastered both Vivida Vis and the self titled EP and both still sound the same and both aren't that good :(

Really? I never heard any of the remastered stuff. Is there anywhere I can get it? Is it on slsk?

[good rats]

So there new video is pretty much the worst thing I've ever seen.

[Mannik]

I havn't seen and can't really be bothered to, what's so bad about it?

[TakeWarning]

And what song is it?

[Anarcho Poser]

So there new video is pretty much the worst thing I've ever seen.
I said that about a page ago.


It's just an awful video. There's nothing going on, and whatever the hell is going on doesn't make any sense. It's just some guy walking around in a weird mask.

http://www.fatwreck.com/video_track/lowres_video/24/AM_Energizer.wmv

[fatpunk]

http://punknews.org/article.php?sid=16440
live album?

[Flagjacket]

It's kidna funny reading the comments under it, and then thinking about how people react to AM! now.

[Henrik]

uhh. I would like to hear some more live stuff from them, I have never seen them live.

[Brain Toad]

If you have soulseek, me (BrainToad) and Eric (Skrunnch) have huge AM! collections, with loads of live bootlegs and videos.

[TakeWarning]

Yeah they told me about this album when I talked to them after their show.

[AIRIC]

Really? I never heard any of the remastered stuff. Is there anywhere I can get it? Is it on slsk?

I have a massive AM! collection on slsk. UN: Skrunnch

[good rats]

Old AM! video clip....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kfhbAUrtoP8&search=against%20me%20

[Angry Balled Fists!]

That's pretty cool.

One of my favourite AM! songs.

[good rats]

Same, it's probably my favourite off ATEC.

[TakeWarning]

I was singing that song in the shower this morning, it's a classic.

[Antifa]

:confused: I just wrote this, I hope some of you will agree with it:


You used to write songs that meant something to me
Made me believe in punk again, gave me some hope
But that all went out the window when you repressed the Crime EP
You've moved away from the you of old and I'll have to cope

Now you're concerned with the grander scheme
You've forgotten what you said, got up and moved on
Away from the idea of a perfect underground scene
Where everybody's happy and everyone belongs

Now your fans will grow in number with every single tour
They'll spend less time on your music and more time on their hair
Will they comprehend what you used to stand for?
Oh Tom Gabel do you even ****ing care?

Do you think about your ex-ideals, may I enquire?
Now you've abandoned all your sweet anarchist rants
You blown it all to hell, you've gone and signed with Sire
Now you're labelmates with Spongebob Squarepants

Now everything you say is suspect, every single word
You can no longer make me believe, no longer make me think
All that leaves your lips is now only a turd
Falling from your mouth, straight into my drink

Just another well-oiled cog in the elite system
Any integrity you had is gone, your new message is hollow
Shaking hands with business mean when you used to resist them
Just another strained chorus, another "WHOA-OH-OH"

Singing piles of money make you rich and Baby, I'm a Capitalist
But though you've abandoned it your old message is not dead
You introduced to idea into thought-dreams and there it still exists
The place where everyone's belongs will live on in your fan's heads


Because I'll still get your records and when you play I'll still go see
But I'll remember when you gave me reason to believe
As you ride off into the horizon of money and MTV
And mark you down as one more fallen at the altar of greed

One more band that I loved, that has turned against me

I like it, especially since they abandoned their politics a long time ago. Send it to them.

[obese_breasts]

I am beginning to think ATEC is better than RAR.

[good rats]

I am beginning to think ATEC is better than RAR.
I've been thinking that for ages.

I've listened to RAR to much so its gotten boring.

[TakeWarning]

I 've always found RAR boring. Always liked it alot but it does get a little boring. Especially in We Laugh At Danger where it does like 96 choruses in a row.

[Weezerfan_returns]

Farewell, Good Fellows your ways are not for me
Farewell, Good Fellows your ways are not for me
Rest upon your laurels, glad you've found your peace but
Farewell, Good Fellows your ways are not for me

Rapping at the chapel door
Sweeping up an enemies floor
Do not touch or make a sound
Keep your eyes upon the ground

I read your countless volumes
Shunned your many sins
But I cannot find salvation
In the rattling of your tins

I wish good to your children
And their own children too
But your armour will not fit me
Although fine it's suiting you

Farewell, Good Fellows your ways are not for me
Farewell, Good Fellows your ways are not for me
Rest upon your laurels, glad you've found your peace
Farewell, Good Fellows your ways are not for me

A flag is waved, a bomb is thrown
So many names and dates to know
Books upon the books are stacked
To get something so simple back

We're talking revolution
But spirals not the spins
Where you fall down dizzy
And forget where to begin

I wish good to your children
And their own children too
But your armour will not fit me
Although fine it's suiting you

Suiting you, suiting you
Suiting you, suiting you

Turn your blessings into weapons
And hold them before your chest
To you and all your comrades
I only wish the best

We may not meet again
For we are treading separate trails
But I'll cast off at dinner
You won't seize the roads or rails

From chapels to the army
Magicians to the knave
You'll either blaze your own trail
Or you're diggin your own grave

I wish good to your children
And their own children too
But your armour will not fit me
Although fine it's suiting you

Your armour will not fit me
Your armour will not fit me
Although fine it's suiting you
Your armour will not fit me
Your armour will not fit me
Although fine it's suiting you

So farewell, good fellows
Farewell, Good Fellows your ways are not for me
Farewell, good fellows
Farewell, Good Fellows your ways are not for me
Not for me
wtf?

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Erik Petersen ftw.

And yeah overall, i think ATEC maybew is better, RAR has more "classics" but ATEC is so god dam cool.

If only it was a bit longer :(

[Henrik]

I 've always found RAR boring. Always liked it alot but it does get a little boring. Especially in We Laugh At Danger where it does like 96 choruses in a row.
Yeah that song has too many choruses.
My favourite AM! songs right now are: This **** rules, Clichee Guevara, You look like I need a drink, Pints of guinnes make you strong, untitled and Ya'll don't wanna step to dis.

[asdf]

I've been taking a good long break of Against Me! since I went through a phase where I listened to so much of them. It lasted months. I don't want to ruin them like I've ruined so many other great bands that I've listened to way too much. (radiohead, the residents...)

[Bukowski]

I Still Love You Julie is the best.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

*One of the best.

I love it.

[TakeWarning]

I Still Love You Julie is the best.

Yeah I think you're right.

[Henrik]

Nooooo way, one of Against me!'s weaker songs.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Wrong ^^^

I was just watching the Were never going home dvd and i've oficially decided that "Those anarcho punx..." is their best live song and best song ever overall.

Also, does anyone know what song the "new song" on it is ? Because it's amazing and i wonder if anyone has it or anyhing ?

[shangbang]

Also, does anyone know what song the "new song" on it is ? Because it's amazing and i wonder if anyone has it or anyhing ?

It's called Take Aim. Its from the stolen demos. I can send you them on aim if you want

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Yeah, could you send me all the stolen demo's plz ?

-danatno10

[Fisticuff111]

It's called Take Aim. Its from the stolen demos. I can send you them on aim if you want

I call it 'Exhaustion'. It was by far my favorite song on the demo, I listened to it to death. I can't believe it didn't make SFAFC, it would have fit right in with the album.

I seem to have the oppisite problem as everyone else. Rather than trying not to get burnt out on AM!, I try to listen to other stuff but I always go back to listening to AM! because they're just so ****ing good. I'm starting to do the same thing with the Mountain Goats too. Everything just seems to pale in comparison.

[Weezerfan_returns]

I Still Love You Julie is the best.
I don't really like it that much.

My favorite AM! songs are...

Pints of Guiness, We Laugh at Danger, From Her Lips to God's Ears, We Did It All For Don, All that We Worked For, Jordan's First Choice (acoustic), Rice and Bread, and 8 Full Hours of Sleep.

Man, that's like 8 songs... it's so hard for me to pick favorites.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I don't think that We laugh at danger is that good.

[Brain Toad]

I listen to AM! sparingly, so each time is a nice experience for me.

[shangbang]

Yeah, could you send me all the stolen demo's plz ?

-danatno10

Yeah. come on aim now and I'll send them

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Hhaa im on :-/

SEND SEND SEND!

[shangbang]

Your not showing up as online for me. IM me at L337lueser and then I'll send them

EDIT: I sent them to the email adress in your profile

[Weezerfan_returns]

I don't think that We laugh at danger is that good.
I think it completely owns I Still Love You Julie. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[asdf]

I listen to AM! sparingly, so each time is a nice experience for me.
That's a good idea. I'm so sad that there's no thrill to listening to Radiohead or most of The Residents anymore, because I abused it. I listened ot them so much, that I know every note, every line, and there's just nothing new to discover. I was afraid of that happening with Against Me! and now it's been probably over a month since I've listened to them.

[me likes punk]

Was the Stolen Demo actually stolen or was it leaked on purpose?

[AIRIC]

I'm listening to Crystal Ballroom Live bootleg now. Really good.

EDIT:
Leaked on purpose is my bet.

[Liebensaft]

I remember reading that it was actually stolen from AM!'s stuff at a show somewhere.

[thepo]

Was the Stolen Demo actually stolen or was it leaked on purpose?

Physically stolen.

[Brain Toad]

From the Lucero show to be exact.

[TakeWarning]

I wish I had thought of stealing their stuff at their show.

Ah well, I stole some money from the ticket sales box.

[Rancid Ban]

haha, that's awesome that it was actauly stolen!

And cheers Shangbang :-*

[Weezerfan_returns]

What'd you get banned for?

[TakeWarning]

He got hacked.

[Rancid Ban]

haha yeah, i just got unbanned and then banned again, perm this time.

Also, Take Aim is one of AM!'s best ever songs.

[Henrik]

He got hacked.
Sorry, but what does that mean?

[TakeWarning]

Sorry, but what does that mean?

Well, someone (I think it was Plexi) gained control of his account by stealing his ccokies and changed his avatar to something incredibly vulgar.

[Weezerfan_returns]

nick's black dick was the avatar of the day yesterday.

[TakeWarning]

nick's black dick was the avatar of the day yesterday.

Hahaha.

Actually, some in The Pit were even worse, and the hacker(whoever it may be <_<) had found a way to make the avatars abslolutely huge so they were much more noticable and shocking.

[Fisticuff111]

Against Me! are staying pretty busy. There is a Replacements tribute comp in which they will contribute a song, the song they will be playing is 'Bastards of Young'. Never heard the song, but it should be good. And they have a live album coming out August 22nd call 'Americans Abroad!!! Against Me!!! Live In London!!!.', which will definetly kick ***... I mean just look at all the exclamation points, it's gotta be good. Seriously though, is anyone else excited about this live album coming out?

[SantaDuJuan]

Until I get Vivida Vis 2, Against Me's dead.

[Zmev]

Never heard the song, but it should be good.

Bastards of Young is a great song.

[Brain Toad]

Against Me! are staying pretty busy. There is a Replacements tribute comp in which they will contribute a song, the song they will be playing is 'Bastards of Young'. Never heard the song, but it should be good. And they have a live album coming out August 22nd call 'Americans Abroad!!! Against Me!!! Live In London!!!.', which will definetly kick ***... I mean just look at all the exclamation points, it's gotta be good. Seriously though, is anyone else excited about this live album coming out?

Only one band is allowed to use that many exclamation points.

And that band is !!!.

[Fisticuff111]

Bastards of Young is a great song.

I downloaded it and listened to it a couple times. I've never been that big of a fan of the Replacements, but this is a great song. The thought of Against Me! doing it excites me... Sexually.

[coheneran]

This is an old question to an old subject, but I feel I need to ask.

How exactley did AM! sell out? They seem to admit it and point out aspects of why they sold out on SFAFC, but I have no idea HOW they sold out.

[SantaDuJuan]

Bands change the longer they're a band.

[coheneran]

Bands change the longer they're a band.

How did they change?

[SantaDuJuan]

Music sounds.
I mean their latest EP is nothing like Crime or really anything close to it.
IMHO
I think it's fine if a band wants to change their sound, but people arn't going to like it or them anymore for that matter.
It's life.

[coheneran]

Music sounds.
I mean their latest EP is nothing like Crime or really anything close to it.
IMHO
I think it's fine if a band wants to change their sound, but people arn't going to like it or them anymore for that matter.
It's life.

THAT'S IT? They got lots of **** because they started using a heavier sound?! When did punks get so demanding?

[me likes punk]

"Joy" and the last song of SFAFC are two of the greatest songs I've ever heard.

[coheneran]

"Joy" and the last song of SFAFC are two of the greatest songs I've ever heard.

I loved it all really. Apart from Cliche Guevara. But especially From Her Lips To God's Ears, that song is ace.

[SantaDuJuan]

THAT'S IT? They got lots of **** because they started using a heavier sound?! When did punks get so demanding?
I don't think it's a punk thing, it's a people thing.
People don't like for the things they love to change.
It changes the good and the bad.
For some people it works, for others it doesn't.
I'm one of the doesn't.

Against Me! are a great band but they've lost their spark for me.

[Brain Toad]

This is an old question to an old subject, but I feel I need to ask.

How exactley did AM! sell out? They seem to admit it and point out aspects of why they sold out on SFAFC, but I have no idea HOW they sold out.
1) Leaving Plan-it-X for Fat Wreck
2) Demanding PIX stop selling Crime
3) Shutting down their forums at the first sign of criticism
SFAFC gets **** because if you listen to the lyrics, 90% of the time Tom is bitching about their fans calling them sellouts, which by that time wasn't very many people.
Then signing to Sire put the final nail in the coffin for the punk elitists to cry sellout.

I think they're assholes for what they did to PIX and the forums things, but SFAFC is still a good record and I enjoy it, especially Holy ****, which I think is one of their best songs.

[me likes punk]

I really wish they were still with PIX, but as long as they keep putting out good music I shall listen.

[Fisticuff111]

I think their music has gotten worse, but it's still good. There are some great songs on SFAFC, and the music matters above all else IMO. Now, I admit that some of their decisions have been questionable, but I also think it's wrong to point fingers. I don't agree with everything they've done (like not letting PIX sell Crime), but I also don't feel I'm in the position to judge. As for the Sire signing, I once read in an interview with Tom in which he said something to the effect of 'if I could sign a contract that would set my mom up for life and she wouldn't have to worry about money again, I'd sign it in a second', That's not a direct quote, I'm paraphrasing there. Now, to me that really hit close to home. I think if there is anything that 'justifys' 'selling out', that's it. Sometimes things are more important than Punk Rock. It's sad, but it's true. Sorry for the rant guys, but this is a pretty important subject to me.

[Weezerfan_returns]

The acoustic EP is my personal jesus.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I love SFAFC, infact it has some of their best songs imo.

[coheneran]

1) Leaving Plan-it-X for Fat Wreck
2) Demanding PIX stop selling Crime
3) Shutting down their forums at the first sign of criticism
SFAFC gets **** because if you listen to the lyrics, 90% of the time Tom is bitching about their fans calling them sellouts, which by that time wasn't very many people.
Then signing to Sire put the final nail in the coffin for the punk elitists to cry sellout.

I think they're spatulas for what they did to PIX and the forums things, but SFAFC is still a good record and I enjoy it, especially Holy ****, which I think is one of their best songs.

Ah that explains it, thanks.

What's wrong with Sire Records (I've never heard of them)?

[AIRIC]

I think their music has gotten worse, but it's still good. There are some great songs on SFAFC, and the music matters above all else IMO. Now, I admit that some of their decisions have been questionable, but I also think it's wrong to point fingers. I don't agree with everything they've done (like not letting PIX sell Crime), but I also don't feel I'm in the position to judge. As for the Sire signing, I once read in an interview with Tom in which he said something to the effect of 'if I could sign a contract that would set my mom up for life and she wouldn't have to worry about money again, I'd sign it in a second', That's not a direct quote, I'm paraphrasing there. Now, to me that really hit close to home. I think if there is anything that 'justifys' 'selling out', that's it. Sometimes things are more important than Punk Rock. It's sad, but it's true. Sorry for the rant guys, but this is a pretty important subject to me.

I completely agree with this. And I also dislike SFAFC very much. Against Me!
s work up to Sink Florida Sink EP was all equally amazing and had that spark. When the demos were stolen and I heard their new work they really lost it for me.

[TakeWarning]

I think next year's album on Sire will be quite interesting.

[AIRIC]

It'll be bad.

[TakeWarning]

Probably.

Let's hope not.

[Brain Toad]

Ah that explains it, thanks.

What's wrong with Sire Records (I've never heard of them)?

They're a major label, owned by one of the Big Four, Warner Music Group.

[feldwebel]

As long as the ticket prices stay low and they don't whore around very much i don't give a flying fuc,k


if cds get too expesnive, well then lets steal them :chug:

if they are in teen magazines, well then lets just don't buy them

what message got lost when they signed to sire?
maybe a few anarchy patches will dissappear from fan jackets.
come on thats so lame

[Moon Flavor]

I "acquired" Reinventing Axl Rose a couple months ago and loved it. Having not heard anything else by them, I saw SFAFC in the used bin and today picked it up. Wow....maybe it's just because it's a first listen, but this is nowhere near as good as the other stuff. I miss the older singing...that's the part I most liked about the band.

[SantaDuJuan]

As long as the ticket prices stay low and they don't whore around very much i don't give a flying fuc,k


if cds get too expesnive, well then lets steal them :chug:

if they are in teen magazines, well then lets just don't buy them

what message got lost when they signed to sire?
maybe a few anarchy patches will dissappear from fan jackets.
come on thats so lame
Not when they were Anarchists.
If they are now?

They're defiently not the next Chumba.

[Brain Toad]

I don't think they were ever really 'anarachists' to begin with, they were just DIY punks. Only song that ever mentioned anarchy was a satire.

[me likes punk]

I loved it all really. Apart from Cliche Guevara. But especially From Her Lips To God's Ears, that song is ace.


Cliche Guevara is from As the Eternal Cowboy

[SantaDuJuan]

What about Burn?

I hate it when I don't quote people and then someone posts before me.

[me likes punk]

He has a point Nick.

[Fisticuff111]

I've read both Tom and Warren claiming to be Anarchists, and James saying that he was not. Tom said he doesn't want to be in an 'Anarchist band' because "there is a lot of baggage that comes with that" and that he doesn't think everyone in the band is an Anarchists and therefor can't speak for them.

[AIRIC]

It doesn't matter if they're anarchists or not, they went directly against what they stood for.

[SantaDuJuan]

Eh but they were a PlanitX band and isn't there alot of Anarchy bands on that label?

[AIRIC]

I would say a lot of the people who are in bands on that label have some anarchist ideals.

[Brain Toad]

Eh but they were a PlanitX band and isn't there alot of Anarchy bands on that label?

I wouldn't say a lot, as there are many bands on the label who just make music about the general things you make music about, love, life, friends, etc. Some bands have a sprinkling of politics, but none are completely political.

Riot-folk on the other hand goes almost completely political, added to the fact none of them are really that good, is what makes me dislike the label.

[Weezerfan_returns]

It doesn't matter if they're anarchists or not, they went directly against what they stood for.
Sometimes, in life, things happen to you that make your ideas and feelings change. I don't think they are becoming money orientated or anything, I think that as musicians, they want to expand, and continue to grow.

[Henrik]

Not when they were Anarchists.
If they are now?

They're defiently not the next Chumba.
Please tell me what happened with that band Chumbawanba? Everybody is talking about them going mainstream and then back again. I know they did tubthumping, but what happened after that?

[coheneran]

I wouldn't say a lot, as there are many bands on the label who just make music about the general things you make music about, love, life, friends, etc. Some bands have a sprinkling of politics, but none are completely political.

Riot-folk on the other hand goes almost completely political, added to the fact none of them are really that good, is what makes me dislike the label.

Have you listened to Rainy Day Record? That album was good.

[Brain Toad]

Please tell me what happened with that band Chumbawanba? Everybody is talking about them going mainstream and then back again. I know they did tubthumping, but what happened after that?

Before Tubthumpin they were an anarcho band. When they put out Tubthumpin on a major label, everyone (especially those in the anarcho scene) called out sellout. Apparently though they donated all the profits from Tubthumpin to chairty. After that album they left EMI and went back singing about anarchy, adopting a more poppy sound, and eventually a folk sound with two of their latest albums.

[coheneran]

Before Tubthumpin they were an anarcho band. When they put out Tubthumpin on a major label, everyone (especially those in the anarcho scene) called out sellout. Apparently though they donated all the profits from Tubthumpin to chairty. After that album they left EMI and went back singing about anarchy, adopting a more poppy sound, and eventually a folk sound with two of their latest albums.

Which charity?

[Brain Toad]

I have no idea, I know it was discussed before, but I don't remember.

Something anti-Nike keeps coming to mind, but I'm not sure.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I can't believe i still don't have the The Disco before the breakdown ep, i was gonna buy it after the show, but they sold out.

Could someone quickly ysi it please ?

[Henrik]

Before Tubthumpin they were an anarcho band. When they put out Tubthumpin on a major label, everyone (especially those in the anarcho scene) called out sellout. Apparently though they donated all the profits from Tubthumpin to chairty. After that album they left EMI and went back singing about anarchy, adopting a more poppy sound, and eventually a folk sound with two of their latest albums.
Haha, I didn't knew that, thanks.
Pretty awesome, since they kind og pwnd the anarco scene then.:lol:

[good rats]

I can't believe i still don't have the The Disco before the breakdown ep, i was gonna buy it after the show, but they sold out.

Could someone quickly ysi it please ?
Soulseek it.

You're bound to get it from there.

[rawdog]

I don't think they were ever really 'anarachists' to begin with, they were just DIY punks. Only song that ever mentioned anarchy was a satire.
From the chorus of national myth
"When all I cry for is anarchy when all I plea for is to be free"
Oh and there baby I'm an anarchist. I dunno about the rest of the band but I think tom was an anarchist, he has that crass patch on his jacket, well had, not sure if its still there. Its the jacket hes wearing on the cover of cowboy. Something along the lines of "The nature of your oppression is the aesthetic of our anger."

[Brain Toad]

Baby, I'm an Anarchist is satire. And wearing a crass patch doesn't make you an anarchist.

[coheneran]

Baby, I'm an Anarchist is satire. And wearing a crass patch doesn't make you an anarchist.

Like David Rovics - I'm A Better Anarchist Than You. That song was good.

"I don't have sex, and there will be no sequel/Because heterosexual relationships are inherently unequal/I'll just keep on moshing, to Rancid and the Clash/'Til there is no more difference between gender, race or class/All you other breeders you just haven't got a clue/I'm a better anarchist than you."

[Weezerfan_returns]

I bet i've had 5 posts that have said this exact thing before, but i need to say it again.

Jordan's First Choice on the Acoustic EP is 10000 times better then it is on RAR.

There.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I agree man, i love the acoustic version so much.

[coheneran]

I should hear it (Read: Someone should megaupload/YSI it to me, because I can't connect to slsk).

[Angry Balled Fists!]

The song or the ep ?

Got aim ?

[Weezerfan_returns]

I agree man, i love the acoustic version so much.
I think that Pints of Guiness is also much, much better than it is on RAR.

But the song Reinventing Axl Rose is better on the album than the EP.

opinions, opinions.

[AIRIC]

The song or the ep ?

Got aim ?

I have it my AIM is Skrunnch.

[viva la revolucion]

From the chorus of national myth
"When all I cry for is anarchy when all I plea for is to be free"
Oh and there baby I'm an anarchist. I dunno about the rest of the band but I think tom was an anarchist, he has that crass patch on his jacket, well had, not sure if its still there. Its the jacket hes wearing on the cover of cowboy. Something along the lines of "The nature of your oppression is the aesthetic of our anger."

That patch he has on it that says Zapatista Gun Club is so awesome

[rawdog]

I think that Pints of Guiness is also much, much better than it is on RAR.

But the song Reinventing Axl Rose is better on the album than the EP.

opinions, opinions.
I agree on that. Actually, now I'm not so sure.

[good rats]

I like both at different times.

I go through phases of what I like and don't like with Against Me!

One week I'll love ATEC, the next is Crime. Blahblahblah.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

No way, Pints of guinness is 10000000 x better on RAR.

Reinvenitn Axl Rose is equal though.

[TakeWarning]

Hang on, is there two different versions of Pints Of Guiness Make You Stong?

[Angry Balled Fists!]

yeah, on the acoustic ep, yeah.

[Fisticuff111]

I think that Pints of Guiness is also much, much better than it is on RAR.

But the song Reinventing Axl Rose is better on the album than the EP.

opinions, opinions.

I completley disagree. I think the Acoustic version of 'Pints...' is waaaaaaay worse than the RAR version. The energy just isn't there, and there is not as stong of a melody.

And I like both version of 'Reinventing' equally, they are both great but in different ways.