The Official Against Me! Thread

[rawdog]

Why do people still talk about the lawsuiting thing? In this letter it says that therewas no threat of legal action.

Because it was still a cunt of a thing to do. I was just listening to searching for a former clarity, and i think I have found the worst against me lyrics ever :
Gotta make your money while you got the chance,
do whatever it takes to sell it.

And to me I think he might even mean it, its from Unprotected Sex With Multiple Partners for those who didn't know. How you guys interperet this song???
http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/againstme/unprotectedsexwithmultiplepartners.html

[Angry Balled Fists!]

It's irony i reckon.

[Henrik]

Yeahh. I don't think he means it.

[CameoRole]

I think he doesn't want to be poor and I think he realizes he can make some money now and it's hightime to cash in some.

[TakeWarning]

I'm so over the selloutz thing. I don't really care that much anymore.

[rawdog]

I care, I just don't know weather to take the stance of, meh, their band, do what they want. Or play the angry fan, I mean, Im kinda doing both at the moment, maybe leaning towards angry fan, but I'll see how their show goes, if they come out after, and are nice, and all that jazz....... im ghey

[TakeWarning]

I cared at first, but now I'm like so totally over it.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Same, i couldn't care less tbh, i love their music, if i was in their position, i would want to make money.

[Anarcho Poser]

Because it was still a cunt of a thing to do. I was just listening to searching for a former clarity, and i think I have found the worst against me lyrics ever :
Gotta make your money while you got the chance,
do whatever it takes to sell it.

And to me I think he might even mean it, its from Unprotected Sex With Multiple Partners for those who didn't know. How you guys interperet this song???
http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/againstme/unprotectedsexwithmultiplepartners.html
I'm not really sure what I make of that song. It really sounds like a "Shut the **** up until you've been in our position."

[rawdog]

I'm not really sure what I make of that song. It really sounds like a "Shut the **** up until you've been in our position."
Yes, good point.

[CameoRole]

EDIT: Why do people still talk about the lawsuiting thing? In this letter it says that therewas no threat of legal action.
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10733681&postcount=952

Fat Wreck threatened legal action if PIX didn't remove the ham boards, a message board where people talked and often called Against Me! sellouts.

[lynch_me]

Mitch Clem on Against me! major label news.
www.nothingnice.com

People keep asking me what I think about Against Me signing to a major label. I think they're in for a real treat. (http://www.negativland.com/albini.html)

It's difficult to apologize for a band who no longer encompasses a single one of the things that made me love them in the first place. Oh well. It's happened before, it'll happen again. It just makes me appreciate the people who actually do have faith in a musical underground free from corporate interference and charts and polls and Teen Beat and TRL and PR reps all that crap that much more. Those of us who can make a living off of what we do without signing our artistic rights away to some huge company. Sure, we might throw them a song (or, in my case, a drawing) here and there to keep rent taken care of, but in the end, our creations are still ours, and we still answer only to ourselves. We still have fun with what we do. I will be very surprised if Against Me enjoys playing music anymore after they spend five years on a major label, but I guess only time will tell.

Butt Trumpet, now there's a band. When Nirvana and Green Day got all huge back in the 90s, the major labels didn't know what to do, so they sent A&R scouts out to punk rock shows all over the country and tried to sign up every single band they could find hoping to catch the next Kurt Cobain on the rise. With the exception of MAYBE five bands, everyone ended up screwed, legally, by the majors that were supposed to rescue them from poverty, their singles never hit the radio, their videos never made it onto MTV, their albums never got released, their bands were forced to break up, blah blah blah. Keep watching all these punk bands signing to majors right now. Pay close attention over the next year or two. You'll get to see it for yourself what happens when people try and co-opt a culture to make a profit.

Anyhow.

Butt Trumpet was one such band. They got signed in the wake of Green Day getting huge, someone threw a ton of money at them, and they recorded the worst, most unlistenable, and absolute LEAST radio-friendly album probably ever released on a major. The thing is long since out of print, so good luck getting your hands on a copy, but dear god are you in for a treat if you can find it. I recommend the track "I'm So Pissed" for some good old fashioned major label punk rock fun.

Good luck to Against Me, I guess. At this point it's just about paying their bills, and I'm not particularly interested in watching someone else at work, so I doubt I'll be paying them any attention anymore, but I shouldn't let my personal feelings on the politics of music stop them from trying something I wouldn't. I met a couple of the guys once, they seemed really cool, so I don't wish them any ill-will. Maybe I'll run into them backstage some day and they can tell me about their experiences over a few drinks.

Me? I've still got people like Salinas and No Idea to keep me warm at night.

And god bless us, everyone.

[sketchyjoe]

I'm searching for Butt Trumpet on Slsk.

[lynch_me]

:lol: Tell me if you find any.

[sketchyjoe]

That Steve Albini article was very good.

[lynch_me]

Yeah it was, I really enjoyed it. Steve seems like an awesome guy, and produces tons of albums.

[CameoRole]

Steve is a bit of a hypocrit though. He's notorious for being very controlling as a producer and makes these records for big companies.

[albert_bass]

I really enjoyed that article.

[CameoRole]

It was good, but Albini ain't a saint.

[albert_bass]

It was good, but Albini ain't a saint.

I don't know anything about him, but my post wasn't directed to you it was just my opinion on the article.

[CameoRole]

Alright, there wasn't any hostility aimed in my reply either.

[albert_bass]

I know hehe I was just clearing it.

[thepo]

Because it was still a cunt of a thing to do. I was just listening to searching for a former clarity, and i think I have found the worst against me lyrics ever :
Gotta make your money while you got the chance,
do whatever it takes to sell it.

And to me I think he might even mean it, its from Unprotected Sex With Multiple Partners for those who didn't know. How you guys interperet this song???
http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/againstme/unprotectedsexwithmultiplepartners.html

Tom said in an interview that that song was meant more of a stab at himself, and how he actually deals with all that percentaging, and that even though it all sounds fair, it wasn't something he imagined he'd ever be doing.

[Flagjacket]

I was thinking about it and I thinkt hat Problems might be about him getting ready to get out of the udnerground. Like, what are you usually about to do when you take inventory? Usually going on a trip right? And the "Losing semblance of coherence to a former self" is probably being a totally different person.

[tappenzee]

One other thing: just because you work for a major corporation, doesn't mean you ARE the major corporation.

Try stepping back from just music for a second. Think about the economy as a whole. Are 95% of the people on earth sellouts for getting jobs? The real sellouts are the executives and the ownership class. Everyone else is just trying to make a living off of them, which is a bull**** premise in the first place, but it has to be done at this point of progression in our society.

Maybe one day in the future, probably after you and I are long dead and buried, there will be a time when the people who actually create the wealth will get to own the wealth instead if it funneling up to a handful of people who do nothing but move the money around.

Until that time, by all means get your money, but do it with a fighting spirit and keep working toward that goal of wiping out that false sense of privilege that these few people have. If Against Me start becoming apologetic to their masters and water down their message in an attempt to keep everyone happy, THEN you can justifiably call them sellouts.

For some reason, though, I'm expecting their most radical message yet to come on their major label debut... we'll see...

[CameoRole]

But then there is the Even at Our Worst. I dunno, that song, and Searching For, give me faith that they just wanted exposure. It sounds like he's conflicted between promises (which he recognizes are largely empty) of a better future at the sake of his past or sticking to his guns.

[Sid]

Fat Wreck threatened legal action if PIX didn't remove the ham boards, a message board where people talked and often called Against Me! sellouts.

I don't see what they would sue them for. Is talking about music illegal? Or disliking a band? Their own forum was one thing. They had every right to shut it down.

But now they'll sue the DIY punks if they make fun of them.

[CameoRole]

I don't see what they would sue them for. Is talking about music illegal? Or disliking a band? Their own forum was one thing. They had every right to shut it down.

But now they'll sue the DIY punks if they make fun of them.

Jer said it was Fat Wreck. He didn't say it was the band. I honestly don't think they would do that to a different site, but I can see FW doing it.

[Sid]

Jer said it was Fat Wreck. He didn't say it was the band. I honestly don't think they would do that to a different site, but I can see FW doing it.

Do you really think Fat Wreck would bother threatening legal action if AM! didn't have a problem with it. Of course they would hide behind the label. And Fat Mike probably jumped at a chance, he reads those boards and knows people make fun of him and his label for being on/once being on the RIAA's list of protected labels.

[coheneran]

Do you really think Fat Wreck would bother threatening legal action if AM! didn't have a problem with it. Of course they would hide behind the label. And Fat Mike probably jumped at a chance, he reads those boards and knows people make fun of him and his label for being on/once being on the RIAA's list of protected labels.

Fat Mike wouldn't do something like that =(. He is too cool.

[CameoRole]

Do you really think Fat Wreck would bother threatening legal action if AM! didn't have a problem with it. Of course they would hide behind the label. And Fat Mike probably jumped at a chance, he reads those boards and knows people make fun of him and his label for being on/once being on the RIAA's list of protected labels.

I think Fat would do it at the drop of a hat. He knew that PIX couldn't afford a legal battle so it's a way to push the smaller company around and to ensure that AM's name is kept clean.

[Sid]

I think Fat would do it at the drop of a hat. He knew that PIX couldn't afford a legal battle so it's a way to push the smaller company around and to ensure that AM's name is kept clean.

But Fat Mike is just trying to get punk music heard! rite? rite???

[CameoRole]

God I love you sid. Come on aim sometime buddy.

[Kithkin]

That Steve Albini article doesn't apply to bands like Against Me! or Rise Against or Anti-Flag.

That article applies to bands who have no real following and at most a minor album under their belt.

Bands like the above have huge followings and no real need of the major labels. The Major's know this and can't screw these bands like they can unknown bands.
Mitch doesn't really know what he's talking about right now. He uses the Greenday and Butt Trumpet anecdote but it couldn't apply to this situation less.

Against Me! has huge barganing power with the majors because the major isn't taking any risk in advancing them money or producing their record or distributing it. The built in fanbase takes care of that. Plus, having recorded 3 albums, AM know what it really costs to record an album and won't stand for the majors forcing 10k a day for studio time.

Rise Against have similar ethics to AM. It didn't bother me when they signed. This doesn't bother me either. It's just music after all.

And Against Me anarchist? "Baby I'm an anarchist" is satire.

I don't know what's going on with the PIX thing. If someone explains it I'll comment on that.

[CameoRole]

Kith, have you ever listened to Against Me? Of course Baby I'm an Anarchist is satire just like Love Me, I'm a Liberal is satire, but Phil Ochs was as left as gay could be. If you have, you would recognize the anarcho message in their early stuff.

Against Me is going to make money from signing to a label; you are right about that. They can get shafted artistically due to unwavering and expensive contracts, but the fact remains that it is in direct opposition to their ethics and message.

[Kithkin]

Yes, though I've never looked at lyrics for the old stuff, much of which is unitelligible. Their old stuff is years ago anyway. 5 years can be a long time. And reality is very different from theory.

I doubt Against Me is going to make any more money from the major label than they would from Fat Wreck. Just like Rise Against didn't. You don't make money signing to major labels. But they won't get ****ed over like a small act would.

My point is that Against Me is big enough that they won't get shafted artistically.

[CameoRole]

Yes, though I've never looked at lyrics for the old stuff, much of which is unitelligible. Their old stuff is years ago anyway. 5 years can be a long time. And reality is very different from theory.

I doubt Against Me is going to make any more money from the major label than they would from Fat Wreck. Just like Rise Against didn't. You don't make money signing to major labels. But they won't get ****ed over like a small act would.

My point is that Against Me is big enough that they won't get shafted artistically.

I think they will. Contracts are binding/expensive to get out of.

[lynch_me]

Yes, though I've never looked at lyrics for the old stuff, much of which is unitelligible. Their old stuff is years ago anyway. 5 years can be a long time. And reality is very different from theory.

I doubt Against Me is going to make any more money from the major label than they would from Fat Wreck. Just like Rise Against didn't. You don't make money signing to major labels. But they won't get ****ed over like a small act would.

My point is that Against Me is big enough that they won't get shafted artistically.
Just to point out the obvious, even if they don't make anymore money on the major, there must be something more beneficial they see and that's more exposure to more people which will bring in more cash.

[TakeWarning]

They had enough exposure as it was on Fat Wreck, I don't think that was much of a problem. They're probably the most popular band within the punk genre, and that's exposure enough. I can't see them getting mass amounts of airtime on mainstream radio within the next few years. I think they're just going to Sire for more money.

[lynch_me]

They had enough exposure as it was on Fat Wreck, I don't think that was much of a problem. They're probably the most popular band within the punk genre, and that's exposure enough. I can't see them getting mass amounts of airtime on mainstream radio within the next few years. I think they're just going to Sire for more money.
But as Kith said they don't always make more money on the Majors. Where's the proof that they do?

[CameoRole]

But as Kith said they don't always make more money on the Majors. Where's the proof that they do?

Numbers and promises get confusing.

[rawdog]

Numbers and promises get confusing.
This whole thread/"issue" is now confusing. I really don't know what to think of AM!, I spose there will always be a soft spot, cos their songs opened my mind and eyes to a whole new world of rad music, politics and ideals.

[SkaRobotArmy]

i'm a little out of the loop, they signed with Sire Records immediately after recording their last album?

If such is the case, they're contract was probably up and perhaps fat wreck didn't deliver. Did you ever think FW was the controlling one? Maybe wanting to push his label closer to the majors, fat mike was doing the very thing you're all accusing Sire of. He saw an opportunity in AM! and tried to run with it but AM! wouldn't have it. Major doesn't always mean less control, they have to sign a contract and i'm sure they have some say in the producer, if not all of it. I'm sure AM! wouldn't sign knowing they were going to lose their creative control...

[Sid]

We're all well aware Fat Mike is a douche.

[CameoRole]

You know, logistically, Fat Wreck and Sire are pretty much the same. One just has greater distrobution and I'm not even sure of that.

[Sid]

Yeah. Fat Wreck basically operates like a major. They just aren't owned by a corporation.

[CameoRole]

In all honesty, looking at it objectively, Sire is probably better for them than Fat, assuming they signed. Sure, there are 'advantages' to Fat, but I think overall, Sire ain't so awful.

[tappenzee]

In the end, everyone's gotta just realize that music is entertainment and at best, a nice jumpoff point for political action. It can be used to spread ideas in a fun way, but we can't just put faith in some band to singlehandedly change the world.

They make catchy music, spark interesting political/social debates, and do their best to keep their integrity in tact while making a decent living for themselves. But beyond that, if we're really expecting any kind of change, musicians aren't gonna be our saviors--only we can save ourselves.

[lynch_me]

In the end, everyone's gotta just realize that music is entertainment and at best, a nice jumpoff point for political action. It can be used to spread ideas in a fun way, but we can't just put faith in some band to singlehandedly change the world.

They make catchy music, spark interesting political/social debates, and do their best to keep their integrity in tact while making a decent living for themselves. But beyond that, if we're really expecting any kind of change, musicians aren't gonna be our saviors--only we can save ourselves.
Why are you all up in my grill?

[albert_bass]

Major doesn't always mean less control, they have to sign a contract and i'm sure they have some say in the producer, if not all of it. I'm sure AM! wouldn't sign knowing they were going to lose their creative control...

You should read that article from steve albini in the previous page I think. I'm not saying this is the case but just to let you know that things happen.

[tappenzee]

Why are you all up in my grill?

Fall back homie, it's all love

[Kithkin]

You should read that article from steve albini in the previous page I think. I'm not saying this is the case but just to let you know that things happen.

I already said there is a huge difference between Against Me and your average run of the mill started band.

Fat Wreck does one album contracts. Say what you will about Fat Mike, but Fat Wreck is one of the better labels out there and artists tend to be very happy there.

Sire doesn't look that bad either. A lot of their current artists are doing pretty well and aren't major label standard artists. In fact, very few of their artists have been (save for Ice Tea and Madonna).

The question is really how much control Warner has over what Sire does. If Sire is making money (and looking at it's current roster I imagine it is) then they probably leave it alone. After all, Warner has only been owned by it's current owner for about 2 years.

[Brain Toad]

How much effort does Warner in general put into music and record labels? I hear very little about them as a record label and it seems it wouldn't be their main concern to be very strict and controlling of these bands because their money doesn't depend on their record label, it depends on their movie industry stuff.

Plus almost all the sub-labels they've acquired are former independents or small time labels like Elektra and Rhino.

It's a different story with companies like Sony BMG and EMI who are pretty much music only (Sony does have its hand in other things, granted, but the BMG half doesn't)

[albert_bass]

I already said there is a huge difference between Against Me and your average run of the mill started band.

Fat Wreck does one album contracts. Say what you will about Fat Mike, but Fat Wreck is one of the better labels out there and artists tend to be very happy there.

Sire doesn't look that bad either. A lot of their current artists are doing pretty well and aren't major label standard artists. In fact, very few of their artists have been (save for Ice Tea and Madonna).

The question is really how much control Warner has over what Sire does. If Sire is making money (and looking at it's current roster I imagine it is) then they probably leave it alone. After all, Warner has only been owned by it's current owner for about 2 years.

Hey, I already said it doesn't have to be this case. Also I like Fat Wreck, I haven't said anything bad about them, they have lots of bands I like. I was just saying everyone should read that article because it's very interesting general culture.

[sketchyjoe]

Farewell, Good Fellows your ways are not for me
Farewell, Good Fellows your ways are not for me
Rest upon your laurels, glad you've found your peace but
Farewell, Good Fellows your ways are not for me

Rapping at the chapel door
Sweeping up an enemies floor
Do not touch or make a sound
Keep your eyes upon the ground

I read your countless volumes
Shunned your many sins
But I cannot find salvation
In the rattling of your tins

I wish good to your children
And their own children too
But your armour will not fit me
Although fine it's suiting you

Farewell, Good Fellows your ways are not for me
Farewell, Good Fellows your ways are not for me
Rest upon your laurels, glad you've found your peace
Farewell, Good Fellows your ways are not for me

A flag is waved, a bomb is thrown
So many names and dates to know
Books upon the books are stacked
To get something so simple back

We're talking revolution
But spirals not the spins
Where you fall down dizzy
And forget where to begin

I wish good to your children
And their own children too
But your armour will not fit me
Although fine it's suiting you

Suiting you, suiting you
Suiting you, suiting you

Turn your blessings into weapons
And hold them before your chest
To you and all your comrades
I only wish the best

We may not meet again
For we are treading separate trails
But I'll cast off at dinner
You won't seize the roads or rails

From chapels to the army
Magicians to the knave
You'll either blaze your own trail
Or you're diggin your own grave

I wish good to your children
And their own children too
But your armour will not fit me
Although fine it's suiting you

Your armour will not fit me
Your armour will not fit me
Although fine it's suiting you
Your armour will not fit me
Your armour will not fit me
Although fine it's suiting you

So farewell, good fellows
Farewell, Good Fellows your ways are not for me
Farewell, good fellows
Farewell, Good Fellows your ways are not for me
Not for me

[Liebensaft]

*wipes tear*

Beautiful.

[coheneran]

*wipes tear*

Beautiful.

It is.

[sketchyjoe]

Erik Petersen is my god now.

[Spenser]

This may be a tad off topic but uh.... any one have the chord progression to Holy Shi't off the new album? I can't find it tabbed anywhere on the net.

[coheneran]

This may be a tad off topic but uh.... any one have the chord progression to Holy Shi't off the new album? I can't find it tabbed anywhere on the net.

Do a google search and go to the last of the page list. Seems Against Me! Have been going crazy lately.

[Liebensaft]

This may be a tad off topic but uh.... any one have the chord progression to Holy Shi't off the new album? I can't find it tabbed anywhere on the net.
Once again...911tabs.com.

[thepo]

This may be a tad off topic but uh.... any one have the chord progression to Holy Shi't off the new album? I can't find it tabbed anywhere on the net.

F E Am

Chorus: G Am F and then the last one ends in E.

[Spenser]

Thanks.

[CameoRole]

Could someone who has the first 12inch with the remastering problems message me? I have a question about one of the songs.

My AIM screen name is Myriad Choices.

[Brain Toad]

F E Am

Chorus: G Am F and then the last one ends in E.

I just learned this song. So fun to play on an acoustic.

[TakeWarning]

I don't know how to play any of their songs yet. It's too much of an effort to find reliable tabs these day, and none of their songs reall have great basslines anyway.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I like to play I still love you julie, walking is still honest, pints of guinness, Unprotected sex with multiple partners etc

[Anarcho Poser]

I don't know how to play any of their songs yet. It's too much of an effort to find reliable tabs these day, and none of their songs reall have great basslines anyway.
Those Anarcho Punx is pretty fun to play on bass.

[suicidesodamachine]

how much money do you think against me! pulls in at the end of the year ?

[Liebensaft]

Erik Petersen is my god now.
I may have to second this, since that's all I've been listening to today, until about 3 minutes ago.

[CameoRole]

I may have to second this, since that's all I've been listening to today, until about 3 minutes ago.

I like the Evan Greer fella. He's like Phil Ochs if Phil rose to prominence in this time.

[milkmit]

...just recently got into them from a friend and, like a noob, posted a thread about them in the indie/alternative section (after searching this forum, as well as that one -- what's up with the 0 results?).

good stuff.

[TakeWarning]

I've decided I'll learn of their songs as soon as I get my bass back from Tim's house.

[rawdog]

I don't know how to play any of their songs yet. It's too much of an effort to find reliable tabs these day, and none of their songs reall have great basslines anyway.
Most of its easy as, just try work it out, it wil improve your ear heaps....

[TakeWarning]

Yeah, good idea.

[sketchyjoe]

...just recently got into them from a friend and, like a noob, posted a thread about them in the indie/alternative section (after searching this forum, as well as that one -- what's up with the 0 results?).

good stuff.
The search engine's broken.

[Brain Toad]

Against Me has never returned results, because 'me' is too short, and for some reason 'against' is blocked.

[Iron Bug]

I like the Evan Greer fella. He's like Phil Ochs if Phil rose to prominence in this time.
He's all I've been listining to for the past few days, him and the whole Riot-Folk crew are awesome.

[Nerdcore753]

When I can't find something in the Search I go to Google, type in what I'm looking for and "Musicianforums." Then I just look through the results within the site. Works quite well.

[TakeWarning]

When I can't find something in the Search I go to Google, type in what I'm looking for and "Musicianforums." Then I just look through the results within the site. Works quite well.

Yeah, I've tried that and it works.

Man, I should really go and buy a ticket for their February concert before they sell out.

[TakeWarning]

Can anyone tell me the meaning behind the lyrics to the verse in Walking Is Still Honest?

I can understand what the chorus means but I don't understand how the verses fit in to the song.

[thepo]

Can anyone tell me the meaning behind the lyrics to the verse in Walking Is Still Honest?

I can understand what the chorus means but I don't understand how the verses fit in to the song.

Dear mother,
This is just survival.
Cannot promise your children everything,
But you won't lie so they can sleep tonight.
Defeat tasted nothing like you said.
Still 22 days left till the end of the world.
My legacy was making you a man
For a justice I could not change.
This is one voice not to forget;
"Fight every fight like you can win;
An iron fisted champion,
An iron willed **** up."

This is about his mother raising him, and trying her hardest to warn him of the horrors of the world, but still trying to teach him of everything he will learn through his mistakes and "defeats." Although, he doesn't really think he learned anything, and just sees it as **** ups, and still has so many questions- cue the chorus.

Dear ****head,
This isn't happening;
The sky is really falling,
The paint's all made of lead,
There's asbestos in the walls,
Hell's coming to rip off the doors
To your priveleged heaven.
Do you want to love and feel it?
You can look but you can't taste it.
You can reach but you'll never have it.
We are untouchable;
Untouchable is something to be.

This is probably him talking about a specific point in his life where everything fell apart, and he beleives everything he's ever been told was a lie. The second part "Do you want to love and feel it..." can probably be interpreted a thousand ways. But I dunno, I kind of look at it as how people are. How people can guide us, but they will never be able to get inside our skin and truly understand us, or give us some real understanding of anything. But I dunno, it could also be about how no one's ever really given the happiness that's been promised to us.

Also, it's important to note that Tom said that he wrote this song for his mother.

[CameoRole]

"Dear mother,
This is just survival.
Cannot promise your children everything,
But you'd lie so they can sleep tonight.
Defeat tasted nothing like you said.
Still 22 days left till the end of the world.
My legacy was making you a man
For a justice I could not change.
This is one voice not to forget;
"Fight every fight like you can win;
An iron fisted champion,
An iron willed **** up.""

I think the line is, "You would lie so they could sleep tonight."

Anyway, I've wondered this also. My view is that he's emoting about the harshness of the world that's been taught to him, but that his mother would lie in order to make it seem alright. Her legacy was making him into a man. I don't understand the justice line. But even though the world is harsh, he's got to give it his all. He's gotta stand up and be strong willed even though he feels predestined for defeat.

The second part is about how everything that establishes common people is being torn apart. The sky, a permenant fixture, is decaying. The paint on your walls is toxic. Heaven is no longer for the chosen. He talks about how things are almost attainable but often just out of reach. The last two lines, I always take to mean how punkers are untouchable both in the sense of disgust and in enlightenment.

[k1ckthecat]

wow i just got Searching For A Former Clarity and i think it's their most solid album yet

[echos]

wow i just got Searching For A Former Clarity and i think it's their most solid album yet

:confused:

[mr_slip]

just ordered my tickets for london, who else is going?

[sketchyjoe]

I am.

[Slipend123]

I am.

cool man

[Slipend123]

I've never seen someone in real life who uses mx, actually i don't know what you look like :-/

[thepo]

"Dear mother,
This is just survival.
Cannot promise your children everything,
But you'd lie so they can sleep tonight.
Defeat tasted nothing like you said.
Still 22 days left till the end of the world.
My legacy was making you a man
For a justice I could not change.
This is one voice not to forget;
"Fight every fight like you can win;
An iron fisted champion,
An iron willed **** up.""

I think the line is, "You would lie so they could sleep tonight."

Anyway, I've wondered this also. My view is that he's emoting about the harshness of the world that's been taught to him, but that his mother would lie in order to make it seem alright. Her legacy was making him into a man. I don't understand the justice line. But even though the world is harsh, he's got to give it his all. He's gotta stand up and be strong willed even though he feels predestined for defeat.

The second part is about how everything that establishes common people is being torn apart. The sky, a permenant fixture, is decaying. The paint on your walls is toxic. Heaven is no longer for the chosen. He talks about how things are almost attainable but often just out of reach. The last two lines, I always take to mean how punkers are untouchable both in the sense of disgust and in enlightenment.

It's you won't. I have the lyrics sheet.

You put your explanation very well, expecially the second part.

[Liebensaft]

I like the Evan Greer fella. He's like Phil Ochs if Phil rose to prominence in this time.
That Greer fellow is quite good. I need to listen to Ochs.

[Brain Toad]

That Greer fellow is quite good. I need to listen to Ochs.

Yes you do.

[TakeWarning]

OK thanks for the help guys.

It's you won't. I have the lyrics sheet.

You put your explanation very well, expecially the second part.

That's funny, I always thought it said you would. That kinda changes my interpretation of the song a little bit.

[Forest_Fire]

So I found an against me video on my computer a couple minutes ago. And I'm watching it now. It's pretty good quality, and it looks like its a couple years old.

[k1ckthecat]

:confused:
drunk man rant dont worry about it :)

[rawdog]

drunk man rant dont worry about it :)
bahahaha!

[Vismund Cygnus]

When I can't find something in the Search I go to Google, type in what I'm looking for and "Musicianforums." Then I just look through the results within the site. Works quite well.
Even better: "site:http://www.musicianforums.com/ *insert whatever you're searching for here*"

[Cameo's Return]

I might be setting up a show for Evan Greer! :) I just gotta find some place.

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

Yall Dont Wanna Step to Dis is my new favorite song.

[AIRIC]

It's a great song.

[Unban Me Says Cameo]

It's a great song.

I love every time they say something about Florida.

[Unban Me Says Cameo]

So I found an against me video on my computer a couple minutes ago. And I'm watching it now. It's pretty good quality, and it looks like its a couple years old.

Share what ya got?

[TakeWarning]

http://www.nothingnice.com/index.php?pageNum_Recordset2=328

Hahahahahaha.

[coheneran]

Is the one on the left Albert?

[Yellin' In My Ear]

http://www.nothingnice.com/index.php?pageNum_Recordset2=328

Hahahahahaha.

hahahaha, that made me chuckle

[albert_bass]

Is the one on the left Albert?

Me?

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Unsubstantiated Rumours is my Against Me! song of the moment.

[coheneran]

Me?

Yes, he had a big eyebrow.

[albert_bass]

Yes, he had a big eyebrow.

Oh, yeah I didn't get it.

I should change my avatar, hehe.

Hey Dan, I'm on again, come here.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Cheers Albert :)

Ok, so Joy is a really really good song after all.

[TakeWarning]

Unprotected Bum Sex With Multiple Partners is my favourite at the moment.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

That's a sweet song, i love playing it.

I like the lyrics to it too.

[TakeWarning]

Unprotected Sex is in my top 3 songs from SFAFC.

[rawdog]

I just thought I'd put up the similarities between me and tom gabel.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/goodrats/photo2b.jpg
Tom
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/hemswoma/Mream/DSCN1829.jpg
Me

I could help but show that goofy photo of myself.

[Liebensaft]

I don't see the resemblance.

[obese_breasts]

I don't see the resemblance.

*blank post*

[DaveToopes]

That picture of tom is too small.

[Liebensaft]

Wait wait wait! I got it!




They're both holding guitars.

[DaveToopes]

How did I miss that?!!

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

Wait wait wait! I got it!




They're both holding guitars.Acoustic guitars to be exact



And they both have their mouths open.

[DaveToopes]

So I can BE Tom Gabel if I have an acoustic guitar and hold my mouth open?

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

So I can BE Tom Gabel if I have an acoustic guitar and hold my mouth open?
Yeah. And do a bit of screaming, then become a hypocrite. You'll be Tom Gabel.

[DaveToopes]

I already do all of that.

I mean... I'm not a hypocrite.

[xFEAR-AND-LOATHINGx]

best live band ever

i cant wait to see em again this summer

[AIRIC]

I've never seen them and I am the ultimate fan and I have probably the most against me stuff on the internet and i don't use periods my slsk name is Skrunnch d/l am! shizz off of me lol and i hope htey dont sue my for having so much of their stuff for free lol actually i did buy 1 album

[rawdog]

Ok, you cunts. Anyway they come in less than a month, woo.

[Liebensaft]

I get to see them in April and with Alkaline Trio too. Can't wait.

[good rats]

I see them in less than a month as well.

I also picked up the Sink, Florida, Sink 7" today. Very good. I love the electric version of Unsubstantiated Rumors...

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

I've never seen them and I am the ultimate fan and I have probably the most against me stuff on the internet and i don't use periods my slsk name is Skrunnch d/l am! shizz off of me lol and i hope htey dont sue my for having so much of their stuff for free lol actually i did buy 1 albumI have all their albums, and am missing two of their 7"s including the first one ever.



And I bought two full lengths, and a 7".


I'm a better supporter.

[Sid]

Acoustic guitars to be exact



And they both have their mouths open.

And one of them is playing an F# and the other is playing what looks like a C7

[Liebensaft]

Showoff.

[Sid]

Oh wait, it's "what is similiar about it". lol.

[AIRIC]

I have all their albums, and am missing two of their 7"s including the first one ever.



And I bought two full lengths, and a 7".


I'm a better supporter.

I support James and Evelyn.

[Liebensaft]

James left a long time ago, though.

I'm pretty sure it was Saint Patrick's day in 1964.

And these days, Evelyn's a grumpy bitch. She just sits by the elevator doors. Sometimes she just sits in bed all day. What a whore.

[AIRIC]

I support Dustin.

[Sid]

Or maybe Tom is grabbing the 9th, it's hard to tell.

[sketchyjoe]

Their promises were meant if not kept.

[Hate ur self emo]

I realy like against me!'s older stuff, could you recomend anyother bands like these

[customerhatesmusic]

agenst me sucks. they r soo ****in emo

User was banned for this post and others

[good rats]

agenst me sucks. they r soo ****in emo

User was banned for this post and others
Haha.

I'll be seeing Against me! in around two weeks...cant wait.

[TakeWarning]

Lmao@ that guy calling Against Me! emo.

Going to see them tomorrow after school.

**** YEAH MOTHER****ER.

I'll tell y'all whether I liked it tomorrow night.

[nitzguy]

i need their old shjt. i saw a tape for 50 bucks on ebay... what kind of an jerk would do that and expect anyone to buy it

[Iron Bug]

They are putting out another single/remix 12" on Fat. Its the Energizer if I remember correctly.

[good rats]

Does anybody here happen to have the AM! dvd on there computer they could YSI or something?

[xFEAR-AND-LOATHINGx]

this is awesome.

i was planning to see AM! on warped tour in KC but i just found out they're coming here (omaha) too on the alkaline trio (<-- bleh) tour soo i get the see em for a second and third time (woot)

[Liebensaft]

I will be seeing them March 21 in London, April 14 (I think it's the 14th) in Philly with Alkaline Trio, and at the Warped Tour in August.

[squirreleater]

i really was not impressed with the latest AM! album Searching for a former clarity

only a few songs have the same AM! spirit that is seen in albums like Crime and Reinventing axl rose...Dont lose touch is the lamest song ever tho (lyrics especially dont stand up to their standards)

i really hope the next album (whenever released) will be alot better

[Iron Bug]

It most likely wont.

[AIRIC]

It won't be.

[Iron Bug]

I know Eric, I dident want to spoil the kids dreams though.

[Brain Toad]

I enjoyed SFAFC, so I'll probably enjoy the new one too.

[Buzzbomb]

I'm seeing them on the warped tour this year. They're pretty much the only reason im even going.

[rawdog]

Seeing them on the 26th. So, take warning, how was it???

[Mannik]

Yeah Kieran, how was it?

I'm seeing them tomorrow

[TakeWarning]

IT ****ING OWNED.

Best show I've ever been to.

I missed the first few songs because we were drunk and the trains were late but it was still amazing. I got my shoe signed by all of them, my friend got a drumstick, another got a setlist, another got Tom's pick, another got a sweaty singlet from Andrew.

Anyway, here's what they played:

Cliche Guevara
Rice And Bread
Walking Is Still Honest
TSR
Unprotected Sex With Multiple Partners
Pints Of Guiness Make You Strong
Gypsy Panther (new song which was very good)
How Low
Miami
Don't Lose Touch
Problems
Baby I'm An Anarchist! (encore)
One or two more I've forgotten perhaps.

I was dissapointed they didn't play Jamiacan Me Crazy, Reinventing Axl Rose, and I Still Love You Julie, Those Anarcho Punx Are Mysterious but hey, great show anyway.

Also, expect a live album coming out at the end of fall/spring for Northern Hemisphere punX.

[good rats]

Geez man, now I'm even more excited to see them.

I have a question..did they have any merch? I'm after a new hoody and last time I saw them they had them selling for like...$35. Whats the go with merch this year?

[Liebensaft]

Ugh, that setlist is so disappointing, compared to what they could have played.

[Buzzbomb]

Yeah, they could have played some more songs from RAR and ep's before that. But the setlist looked decent.

[thepo]

IT ****ING OWNED.

Best show I've ever been to.

I missed the first few songs because we were drunk and the trains were late but it was still amazing. I got my shoe signed by all of them, my friend got a drumstick, another got a setlist, another got Tom's pick, another got a sweaty singlet from Andrew.

Anyway, here's what they played:

Cliche Guevara
Rice And Bread
Walking Is Still Honest
TSR
Unprotected Sex With Multiple Partners
Pints Of Guiness Make You Strong
Gypsy Panther (new song which was very good)
How Low
Miami
Don't Lose Touch
Problems
Baby I'm An Anarchist! (encore)
One or two more I've forgotten perhaps.

I was dissapointed they didn't play Jamiacan Me Crazy, Reinventing Axl Rose, and I Still Love You Julie, Those Anarcho Punx Are Mysterious but hey, great show anyway.

Also, expect a live album coming out at the end of fall/spring for Northern Hemisphere punX.

Holy f'ucking s'hit Gypsy Panther.

Holy f'ucking s'hit live album.

Am the only person left that kisses this band's *** to no end?

[TakeWarning]

Geez man, now I'm even more excited to see them.

I have a question..did they have any merch? I'm after a new hoody and last time I saw them they had them selling for like...$35. Whats the go with merch this year?

Yeah, me and about 7 mates all bought shirts for $20 each. Stickers were $2, vinyls were $15 (I think). Uhh yeah, so bring lots of dosh.

[good rats]

Yeah, me and about 7 mates all bought shirts for $20 each. Stickers were $2, vinyls were $15 (I think). Uhh yeah, so bring lots of dosh.
Which vinyls were they?

Any hoodys?

[Sid]

Yeah, me and about 7 mates all bought shirts for $20 each. Stickers were $2, vinyls were $15 (I think). Uhh yeah, so bring lots of dosh.

Haha, the bands i see all give away the stickers. And they make a s'hit lot less than AM! And twenty dollar shirts?

Now that's anarchy.

[thepo]

When I saw them in September, I only paid 8 or 12 dollars for shirts and vinyl, and stickers and patches were 50 cents...

[Brain Toad]

Haha, the bands i see all give away the stickers. And they make a s'hit lot less than AM! And twenty dollar shirts?

Now that's anarchy.

He's Australian, $20 = roughly $15

[Mannik]

IT ****ING OWNED.

Best show I've ever been to.

I missed the first few songs because we were drunk and the trains were late but it was still amazing. I got my shoe signed by all of them, my friend got a drumstick, another got a setlist, another got Tom's pick, another got a sweaty singlet from Andrew.

Anyway, here's what they played:

Cliche Guevara
Rice And Bread
Walking Is Still Honest
TSR
Unprotected Sex With Multiple Partners
Pints Of Guiness Make You Strong
Gypsy Panther (new song which was very good)
How Low
Miami
Don't Lose Touch
Problems
Baby I'm An Anarchist! (encore)
One or two more I've forgotten perhaps.

I was dissapointed they didn't play Jamiacan Me Crazy, Reinventing Axl Rose, and I Still Love You Julie, Those Anarcho Punx Are Mysterious but hey, great show anyway.

Also, expect a live album coming out at the end of fall/spring for Northern Hemisphere punX.

Decent setlist, although yeah it'd be better if there were a few more songs from RAR. I'd still be stoked if they played a setlist along those lines when I leave to see them in 20 minutes!

[Sid]

He's Australian, $20 = roughly $15

WELL STILL FUK THOSE SELLOUTZ

lmao

[good rats]

So for the ones who have seen em in Australia so far...were there any hoody's for sale...?

[TakeWarning]

I didn't see nothin'.



No hoodys anyway.

[DaveToopes]

We still have an Against Me! thread?!

[AIRIC]

Who's Against Me!?

[asdf]

And why are they against me!?

[DaveToopes]

**** THEM!

caps

[Liebensaft]

Who's Against Me!?
A bunch of faggot sellouts. You wouldn't like 'em.

[DaveToopes]

Sounds like my thing. What's their worst ablum?

[Liebensaft]

Crime As Forgiven by Against Me!

is by far the worst. It's this shitty EP. You'd hate it.

[AIRIC]

Crime isn't that good anyway.

Best album = As The Eternal Cowboy

[DaveToopes]

Crime isn't that good anyway.

Best album = As The Eternal Cowboy

I agree 100%.

[Liebensaft]

No way. Crime > RAR > AtEC > SFAFC

[DaveToopes]

You're a looney.

[AIRIC]

I could punch you.

[DaveToopes]

Do it.

[Liebensaft]

Yeah, but they I'd punch you back twice as hard and kick you in the ribs while you were on the ground.

[AIRIC]

Ethan would hit you with a bat if you did that.

[DaveToopes]

Str8. Then I'd play ATEC really loud in your ears so it hurt. Then, I would defacate on you.

[Liebensaft]

Then I'd tell him "Go and play soccer, baldy!"

[DaveToopes]

I have about 4 inches of hair currently.

It's too cold for soccer.

Are you saying soccer is dumb? I play hockey too. I'll slice you.

[Liebensaft]

Hockey is cool in my book.

Soccer is dumm.

[DaveToopes]

Tom Gabel loves soccer.

[Liebensaft]

Tom Gabel used to love anarchy.

[Unban Me Says Cameo]

Tom Gabel used to be.

[rawdog]

No way. Crime > RAR > AtEC > SFAFC
123, mofo.

[good rats]

So I'm seeing AM! tomorrow for the second time.

Hopefully they are selling some hoody's, I need a one.

[TakeWarning]

Crime isn't that good anyway.

Best album = As The Eternal Cowboy

One two three.

[good rats]

One two three.
I agree as well.

RAR has gotten kinda boring. SFAFC is ok. But I'm loving ATEC at the moment.

[rawdog]

I agree as well.

RAR has gotten kinda boring.
Sif! But I agree with the comments on the other two. I need to pick my guitar up from you some time soon.

[good rats]

Sif! But I agree with the comments on the other two. I need to pick my guitar up from you some time soon.
I sitll think its a great album..but I've listened to it so much its kinda lost its touch... But i go through phases of things. So I will love it again soemtime soon.

And yea, just come around whenever and grab it.

[TakeWarning]

I prefer the Crime versions of I Still Love You Julie and Walking Is Still Honest. One of the reasons which I don't like RAR that much.

[Henrik]

RAR's version of Walking is still honest is awesome.

[Flagjacket]

RAR's versions of songs all fail, except for Pints of Guiness. The RAR original songs are all good though.

ATEC = RAR > SFAFC

[Brain Toad]

Crime > all
And I enjoyed SFAFC more then ATEC and RAR, not to say its better, I just enjoyed it more.

[Buzzbomb]

Out of the full length albums RAR is the best. I can listen to that many time, the lyrics on it are very good. ATEC is good but its a slight departure from RAR, and SFAFC was kinda boring except for a few songs.

[Nerdcore753]

I find RAR pretty boring now, and i still don't like SFAFC much.

Crime, Acoustic EP, and ATEC are all tied for me.

[Brain Toad]

http://www.myspace.com/dirtydirtydeitrich

Mattchew found it orginally

[Nerdcore753]

Against Me ripped them off!

[lynch_me]

I Am Matt

[Flagjacket]

What the ****.

[asdf]

http://www.myspace.com/dirtydirtydeitrich

Mattchew found it orginally
That is the greatest thing. Ever.

[DaveToopes]

What the ****.

My sentiments exactly.

[Anarcho Poser]

http://www.myspace.com/dirtydirtydeitrich

Mattchew found it orginally
Hmmmm.... Sweet. lol.

[Brain Toad]

Against Me totally ripped him off.

[Anarcho Poser]

Against Me totally ripped him off.
You ain't kiddin'.

It's too bad they're on a major now, and could get a better lawyer, otherwise, I'd write that Dirty fellow and suggest he press charges.

[rawdog]

I saw the today! It was pretty goood, I remember, last time i saw them, in '04, it had a better atmosphere, but it still kicked arse. I got Warrens set list, its in my room, Ill post what they played later.

[DaveToopes]

Against Me ripped them off!

Against Me! totally ripped him off!

123....












REPEATER!

[Brain Toad]

123....












REPEATER!

Don't make me cut you Ethan.

[DaveToopes]

Okay :upset:

Did you like my Fugazi reference though?????

[nitzguy]

http://www.myspace.com/dirtydirtydeitrich

Mattchew found it orginally

that dude is sweet.:chug:

[sketchyjoe]

When they're playing in London they're being supported by Murder By Death and No Choice.

Murder By Death, despite the awful name, are pretty good from the few songs I've heard. Quite dark and atmospheric but also a cool traditional vibe. A bit like a more alternative The Devil Makes Three.

No Choice are a Dillinger Four-esque political punk band from Wales who are good at what they do.

It should be awesome.

[Liebensaft]

I can't wait. I'll see you there, Joe.

[TakeWarning]

Murder By Death are incredible.

[suicidesodamachine]

that dude is sweet.:chug:

My friends and I are making shirts of Dirty, we send him a message about it and he gave us his blessing and asked if he could have one .

On the front its gonna have the rip off of rar then on the back its gonna have "....and Dirty hates to be alone "

[Anarcho Poser]

When they're playing in London they're being supported by Murder By Death and No Choice.

Murder By Death, despite the awful name, are pretty good from the few songs I've heard. Quite dark and atmospheric but also a cool traditional vibe. A bit like a more alternative The Devil Makes Three.

No Choice are a Dillinger Four-esque political punk band from Wales who are good at what they do.

It should be awesome.
Murder by Death played with them the first time I saw them. Their cello player is awesome, and vaguely attractive. They aren't too bad of a band either, though nothing I'd write home about.

[Weezerfan_returns]

I agree as well.

RAR has gotten kinda boring. SFAFC is ok. But I'm loving ATEC at the moment.

YOU'RE ALL WRONG! The acoustic EP,and Crime is where its at.

But as for albums, i'ma gonna break this down...
RAR>SFAFC>Cowboy.

As the eternal cowboy was my first AM! album, and i love it to death. Most bands couldn't throw an album of that calibur together to save their lives.

But RAR is just heaven, songs like Jordan's First Choice, Pints of Guiness, and 8 Hours of Sleep are in a league of their own. Clarity is really good, but not in the way the other two are. I think that with SFAFC, they show so much growth. The "folk" feel is starting to wear off, but it's somehow not a bad thing. I think that instead of "selling out" or "losing cred" against me is just moving on. Good for them.

[TakeWarning]

YOU'RE ALL WRONG! The acoustic EP,and Crime is where its at.

But as for albums, i'ma gonna break this down...
RAR>SFAFC>Cowboy.

As the eternal cowboy was my first AM! album, and i love it to death. Most bands couldn't throw an album of that calibur together to save their lives.

But RAR is just heaven, songs like Jordan's First Choice, Pints of Guiness, and 8 Hours of Sleep are in a league of their own. Clarity is really good, but not in the way the other two are. I think that with SFAFC, they show so much growth. The "folk" feel is starting to wear off, but it's somehow not a bad thing. I think that instead of "selling out" or "losing cred" against me is just moving on. Good for them.

We're not "wrong", we're all entitled our opinions.

[DaveToopes]

YOU'RE ALL WRONG! The acoustic EP,and Crime is where its at.

But as for albums, i'ma gonna break this down...
RAR>SFAFC>Cowboy.

As the eternal cowboy was my first AM! album, and i love it to death. Most bands couldn't throw an album of that calibur together to save their lives.

But RAR is just heaven, songs like Jordan's First Choice, Pints of Guiness, and 8 Hours of Sleep are in a league of their own. Clarity is really good, but not in the way the other two are. I think that with SFAFC, they show so much growth. The "folk" feel is starting to wear off, but it's somehow not a bad thing. I think that instead of "selling out" or "losing cred" against me is just moving on. Good for them.

You're a looney.

[Liebensaft]

/writing a song having a lot to do with Against Me! at this very moment

[Weezerfan_returns]

You're a looney.


yeah.. I wrote that like, really late at night. I guess I am.


I want some toquitos!

[Liebensaft]

Favored bands from a time not long gone
Now fortune they've found, and from my shelves they've been torn
Green in their eyes, they've failed to see
Stricken with fame, they're now dead to me

Former practicioners of anarchy
Flooding the airwaves of cable tv
Swayed by their mounting greed
I raise my glass to you....dearest Against Me!

You're losing touch, Mr. Gabel, betraying your roots
I'm searching for a former clarity not found in music video shoots
Do you remember "Crime...?" You used to give 'em hell
You really ought to reinvent yourself

Not dying for what you worked, merely being paid
Now walking is only honest every couple of days
Gaining new fans faster than they could ever be lost
You've done yourself well, Tom, but at what cost?

Role models of last week occupying the garbage can
Say so long to another once-faithful fan
Major labels and mediocre albums are where one must draw a line
I'll find a new band to like for a month before they turn into greedy corporate swine

Mr. Gabel, I sing this song for you
I used to believe the words you sung held true
Your ideals ripped and faded like your designer jeans
Can you still recall quite what anarchy means?

Former practicioners of anarchy
Flooding the airwaves of MTV
Swayed by their mounting greed
I'll really miss you, dearest Against Me!

[DaveToopes]

Post that in songwriting too.

[Liebensaft]

I'm getting there, poop.

[viva la revolucion]

Favored bands from a time not long gone
Now fortune they've found, and from my shelves they've been torn
Green in their eyes, they've failed to see
Stricken with fame, they're now dead to me

Former practicioners of anarchy
Flooding the airwaves of cable tv
Swayed by their mounting greed
I raise my glass to you....dearest Against Me!

You're losing touch, Mr. Gabel, betraying your roots
I'm searching for a former clarity not found in music video shoots
Do you remember "Crime...?" You used to give 'em hell
You really ought to reinvent yourself

Not dying for what you worked, merely being paid
Now walking is only honest every couple of days
Gaining new fans faster than they could ever be lost
You've done yourself well, Tom, but at what cost?

Role models of last week occupying the garbage can
Say so long to another once-faithful fan
Major labels and mediocre albums are where one must draw a line
I'll find a new band to like for a month before they turn into greedy corporate swine

Mr. Gabel, I sing this song for you
I used to believe the words you sung held true
Your ideals ripped and faded like your designer jeans
Can you still recall quite what anarchy means?

Former practicioners of anarchy
Flooding the airwaves of MTV
Swayed by their mounting greed
I'll really miss you, dearest Against Me!


nice, if i were you id do something about this line "I'll find a new band to like for a month before they turn into greedy corporate swine". its too long and doesnt fit the rythm of the rest of the song, shorten it.

[Henrik]

I just got Crime on cd...
I ordered on noidearecords.com hopping that they would sell me the pix version with burn burn burn on it.
Unfortunately I got the digipack version that is made by Sabot... To my great surprise though, when I played it for the first time it ended out having burn burn burn as the last track, even though it wasn't the pix version....
I thought that only the planet-it-x had Burn burn burn.... What had happened?

By the way: Crime is awesome. I still like the RaR version of Walking is still honest the best though.
I also got the acoustic ep. Indeed awesome as well. Especially We did it all for Don, I love that track.

[AIRIC]

We Did It All For Don is such an amazing song. I listened to taht like 6 times last night.

[nitzguy]

it is fantastical

[imnotapunk]

Im going to see AM! next week and i was wandering if someone could give me an idea of what songs they most lickley to play as i now most of there old stuff realy well but ive only listened to there new album a couple of times and obveasly they are mostly going to play new stuff thanks

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

That song is great.

The song is just called Burn, and I'm pretty sure it was released on all cd versions of "Crime..."


So I made a cd with "Crime...", "Disco Before the Breakdown" and "Acoustic EP" (like I'm sure a great deal of other people have made) and it's the best AM! cd there is.

[AIRIC]

Im going to see AM! next week and i was wandering if someone could give me an idea of what songs they most lickley to play as i now most of there old stuff realy well but ive only listened to there new album a couple of times and obveasly they are mostly going to play new stuff thanks

They'll probably play half RAR and ATEC stuff and half SFAFC stuff.

[asdf]

I've been really wanting to see against me! in concert again. I know it's going to be quite awhile, though.

Looking back on it, when I saw them in concert for the second time, it was absolutely amazing.

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

I've been really wanting to see against me! in concert again. I know it's going to be quite awhile, though.

Looking back on it, when I saw them in concert for the second time, it was absolutely amazing.Theyre coming to MI in April with Alkaline Trio.

[Liebensaft]

I'm going to see them next Tuesday. Then again in April.

[asdf]

Theyre coming to MI in April with Alkaline Trio.
Yeah, but Royal Oak is pretty far from me. Going on a sunday is unlikely for me. I know some of my friends will make it out there, but I wont.

[Rise Me Up]

Yeah, but Royal Oak is pretty far from me. Going on a sunday is unlikely for me. I know some of my friends will make it out there, but I wont.

WHAT? This isn't the DIY thread.

[TakeWarning]

They'll probably play half RAR and ATEC stuff and half SFAFC stuff.

That's what they played when I saw them like two weeks ago.

[Liebensaft]

nice, if i were you id do something about this line "I'll find a new band to like for a month before they turn into greedy corporate swine". its too long and doesnt fit the rythm of the rest of the song, shorten it.
That was there on purpose because of how childish it sounds, and I thought it'd go well with the personality of most of the people discrediting Against Me!.

[asdf]

WHAT? This isn't the DIY thread.
:(

Fine. I'll go back to where I belong.

[ThisUserIsAPipebomb]

Yeah, but Royal Oak is pretty far from me. Going on a sunday is unlikely for me. I know some of my friends will make it out there, but I wont.
Oh. Dang.

Royal Oak is a half-hour for me.

[AIRIC]

No one dies, READY to die just yetttttttttttt.

[viva la revolucion]

No one dies, READY to die just yetttttttttttt.

uhhhhhhhh what?

[thepo]

No one dies, READY to die just yetttttttttttt.

No I'm not ready to die just yet?

[rawdog]

I saw them in melbourne, australia about 2 weeks ago and compared to last time the played, it wasn;t good, i was let down. I mean it was still and okay show but last time the whole place had this atmosphere, this feel, and against me! were so into it and all. I donno what happened, hopefully it was just a one off, spose i wont knwo unless they come out here again before they break up, which i wouldn't be suprised if they did. Before the show, topm just looked like he had, had enough, he looked really kinda angry, maybe even sad, it wasnt like a "hey im touring around the world with my friends, this is great look"

[AIRIC]

No I'm not ready to die just yet?


It's funny, in the 8th grade I listened to that album 3 or 4 times every day, and I claim that AM! are my favorite band (though not as much anymore) and I still constantly screw up lyrics.