The Official Against Me! Thread

[AIRIC]

I used to read the books.

[Liebensaft]

I loved those Goosebumps books. Then they did shows for them. I don't remember if it was Nickelodeon or not.

[Iron Bug]

It was on FOX or WB.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I'm listening to SFAFC and it's not that much of a dissapointment afterall.

[Brain Toad]

I'm listening to SFAFC and it's not that much of a dissapointment afterall.

People who say it is usually have only listened to it once and with a negative attitude.

[obese_breasts]

I enjoy SFAFC quite a bit.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

People who say it is usually have only listened to it once and with a negative attitude.

Yeah, it was some downright classics on it, most notably Miami and Even at our worst we're still better than the rest.

[obese_breasts]

How Low is one of my favorites from it. Along with Miami and Joy.

[Anarcho Poser]

Haha, from someone I know who went to one of the staium shows' blog:



First this one band came on that no1 knew and they were really bad lol. But them Jimmy eat world came on and got us all excited for Green Day.

Actually, the whole beginning of that blog entry is funny.
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=21884340&blogID=47346289&Mytoken=a6621631-2588-4e71-8536-8ea314481b62

[TakeWarning]

Actually, the whole beginning of that blog entry is funny.
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=21884340&blogID=47346289&Mytoken=a6621631-2588-4e71-8536-8ea314481b62

What an idiot.

[AIRIC]

Haha, classic.

[Brain Toad]

Holy S'hit has become one of my favourite AM! songs now.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I think that Even at our worst... could be a huge song, really incredible it it was a 4 or 5 minute song, it seems too short.

Holy Sh'it is amazing too.

[rawdog]

Oh wow, its great to be back. I got banned for spamming that I don't even remember doing, anyway, I found out when Against Me! are coming out to Australia, sooo happy.

[TakeWarning]

Oh wow, its great to be back. I got banned for spamming that I don't even remember doing, anyway, I found out when Against Me! are coming out to Australia, sooo happy.

YES!! SWEET GNARLY DAWG BRO

EDIT: Hey who told you this? I looked on a couple of sites and I couldn't find anything about it.

[MasterSander]

Like their music. Also like his voice, sounds like his really confinced of himself for some reason.

[Flagjacket]

Am I the only one who thinks that Pretty Girls and the COndoleeza song are the best on SFAFC?

[thepo]

Am I the only one who thinks that Pretty Girls and the COndoleeza song are the best on SFAFC?

Pretty Girls is one of my favorites.

[AIRIC]

I just had the urge to listen to SFAFC, and I liked it a lot.

[good rats]

YES!! SWEET GNARLY DAWG BRO

EDIT: Hey who told you this? I looked on a couple of sites and I couldn't find anything about it.
Someone he knows or something. They are coming early next year apparently.

[rawdog]

YES!! SWEET GNARLY DAWG BRO

EDIT: Hey who told you this? I looked on a couple of sites and I couldn't find anything about it.
I kinda know a promoter down here in Melbourne.

[TakeWarning]

I kinda know a promoter down here in Melbourne.

Oh OK. Well, thanks for the info.

[Borkola]

Can anyone give me a link to a DL of the Cavalier Eternal 7"?

[Sid]

So wait, can AM! still play Politics of Starving, even though their video is on MTV?

I think they should, Irony is in.

[Graffito]

just wondering, when AM! released that Reinventing Axl Rose, did he do anything about that? because i know Axl has had a lot of issues whilst working on his "Chinese Democracy", and apparently won't give anyone the rights to any of his songs, i.e. he won't let movies use GNR songs in the soundtrack. apparently he did that to keep it "unique". so yeah did he have anything to say about AM! releasing an album and song with his name on it?

[Sid]

You can't copyright a person's name, I'm pretty sure. Otherwise, we'd run out of names, wouldn't we? I'm sure tons of people have my name out there.

Axel Rose is no different, no matter how famous he is.

[obese_breasts]

If you watch their DVD one of the people from boysetsfire (i think) said that he heard Axl got a copy of RAR and was pissed so he made voodoo dolls of Against Me!

[Sid]

Strike chords, they cut like a knife.

[Brain Toad]

Axl could've copyrighted his name as its a stage name.


I'm listening to RAR right now, I think it's the first time I've listened to it as a complete album.

[Sid]

And means so much more than a t shirt or ticket stub they'd stop at nothing short of massacre.

[TakeWarning]

And everyone would leave with the memory there was no place else in the world, this is where they always belong.


(I think)

[rawdog]

correct! whats after this, and what song is it from:
Can you handle the death, accept what we create together?

[good rats]

correct! whats after this, and what song is it from:
Can you handle the death, accept what we create together?
I still know every politician's a ****ing monster.

Ya'll Don't Wanna Step to Dis.

[rawdog]

I still know every politician's a ****ing monster.

Ya'll Don't Wanna Step to Dis.
I didn't want you to answer it, go away Paulo, just ruin all the fun.

[TakeWarning]

Culture kills bureaucrats and all other undesireables.

[nitzguy]

Culture kills bureaucrats and all other undesireables.
history said we died for freedom but today no justice was served

[AIRIC]

walking is still honest.

evelyn sits by the elevator doors.

[Henrik]

Pints of guiness make you strong

"And we rock, because it's us against them...."

[KingOfSka]

Pints of guiness make you strong

"And we rock, because it's us against them...."

Those anarcho punx are mysterious.

"Like the history they stole from us"

[thedeadwalk!]

Burn.

"Well, I say that settles all arguments of difference."



I get to see them tonight and tomorrow. This will be numbers four and five.

[AIRIC]

Burn.

"Well, I say that settles all arguments of difference."



I get to see them tonight and tomorrow. This will be numbers four and five.

You are damn lucky.

[Liebensaft]

Bastard. I reeeeeally wanna see them.

[OI! to the World!]

Reinventing Axle Rose may have been a awesome album but **** Against Me!. I'm sorry to say this because I know most people on this forum like them. But I just don't understand Anarchists that are owned by the Fox Network (myspece is owned by Fox) and have 2,000 dollar tour guarantees. Look back at some of the lyrics on Reinvinting..... Do you think they realize that they're hypocrites?

[Sid]

Scroll back to the beginning of this thread, this conversation has already been done. A lot of bands change their ideas and AM! has changed theirs, like:

So wait, can AM! still play Politics of Starving, even though their video is on MTV?

They can't very well have a line like "to MTV, f'uck you" and have their music on MTV. That would be blatant hypocrisy to say they still believe in the same things.

Either way, I disliked the new album, and not because of any of the "omg sellouts" crap, that's just childish. I just plain didn't like the music.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I like it, has some really good songs on.

[Sid]

Yeah, I'm just a really big fan of folk, and AM! had less of that influence on the new album. Also lyrics are important to me, and some songs i found to be poor in those regards. Not extremely bad, just not the previous quality of songwriting.

But, they can't all be gems can they? Some of the songs on the new one are well written.

[rawdog]

Either way, I disliked the new album, and not because of any of the "omg sellouts" crap, that's just childish. I just plain didn't like the music.
123. The music isn't as good, either are the lyrics. There a few songs I like, like Even at our worst, SFAFC amongst others.

[TakeWarning]

SFAFC is a good album, but I don't really like the sound (less influenced by folk, and more influenced by rock)

[Henrik]

I really have no idea what makes a song folk. Which Against me! songs would you consider folk?

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Same, i like the folk in the old albums, SFAFC was lacking there.

[TakeWarning]

I really have no idea what makes a song folk. Which Against me! songs would you consider folk?

Pints Of Guiness Make You Strong.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Yeah, i was gonna say that song.

It's one of my faves.

[nitzguy]

i just don't like all the distortion on almost every song. i liked AM! because it was diffrent, with all the distortion they have, its kinda boring

[TakeWarning]

Yeah, i was gonna say that song.

It's one of my faves.

One of mine too. Great album opener. Jamaican Me Crazy/ Scream It Until You're Coughing up Blood is one too, I used to listen to that about 9 times in a row.

Good times.

[thepo]

Burn.

"Well, I say that settles all arguments of difference."



I get to see them tonight and tomorrow. This will be numbers four and five.

Rice and Bread. My favorite line is right after: "Surving by questioning. Well can you imagine if we all started demanding?"

[TheBeatlesarecoming]

All i know is the Against Me! concert i went to was the best thing that ever happend to me

[Buzzbomb]

I've listened to Reinventing Axl Rose everynight for the past week. I love that album, should i pick up As the Enternal Cowboy? It seems more similar to RAR then SFAFC

[DaveToopes]

Definitely pick up ATEC, I'd say I like it almost as much as RAR.

[Anarcho Poser]

I've listened to Reinventing Axl Rose everynight for the past week. I love that album, should i pick up As the Enternal Cowboy? It seems more similar to RAR then SFAFC
Do it.

[Buzzbomb]

I will

[good rats]

I've listened to Reinventing Axl Rose everynight for the past week. I love that album, should i pick up As the Enternal Cowboy? It seems more similar to RAR then SFAFC
Defiantly get Cowboy.

[good rats]

Beginning in an ending is great. Even though it sounds like it was recorded in a bathroom.

[Anarcho Poser]

Beginning in an ending is great. Even though it sounds like it was recorded in a bathroom.
I like All or Nothing alot, too.

[good rats]

I like All or Nothing alot, too.
Yea, its one of my favourites. I've got the bad quality version off the Self Titled, and a better quality version. I have no idea where the better quality one is from.

[rawdog]

Yea, its one of my favourites. I've got the bad quality version off the Self Titled, and a better quality version. I have no idea where the better quality one is from.
I've only really just got into All or nothing, I liked it before, but now its a stand out track.

[rawdog]

Has anyone else noticed that tonight we're gonna give it 35% isn't as good as a recording as the rest of the stuff on disco?? Or is it just me?

[lynch_me]

It's just you.

[TakeWarning]

Rawdog, do you know anything about the rumours of their Australian tour?

[thepo]

Has anyone else noticed that tonight we're gonna give it 35% isn't as good as a recording as the rest of the stuff on disco?? Or is it just me?

You probably downloaded a vinyl track that was ripped. I remember I did that.

Anyways, if I don't see Against Me! again soon, I don't know, I'll kill someone or something.

[Liebensaft]

Ahhhhhhh! They're in town tonight, but I couldn't goooooo!!!!!!!!:upset:

[obese_breasts]

That would be the worst feeling i could imagine.

[DaveToopes]

Yeah, that would suck. Sucks man, hopefully they'll come back around here, and to Philly (I think you live in Philly) so we can both make up for missing them.

[rawdog]

Rawdog, do you know anything about the rumours of their Australian tour?
Yes I do. I know the dates but all I am going to say is late February.

[FunknPunk]

That would be the worst feeling i could imagine.
'tis happened twice to me :(

[Liebensaft]

That would be the worst feeling i could imagine.
It is.:upset:
Yeah, that would suck. Sucks man, hopefully they'll come back around here, and to Philly (I think you live in Philly) so we can both make up for missing them.

I hope so. And it better be on a Friday or Saturday night. That's why I didn't go.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

What else do i need from them ?

I have Crime, RAR, ATAC and SFAFC.

[TakeWarning]

Ahhhhhhh! They're in town tonight, but I couldn't goooooo!!!!!!!!:upset:

Haha, why not?

Yes I do. I know the dates but all I am going to say is late February.

Thank you my good man. They're coming to Perth right?

What else do i need from them ?

I have Crime, RAR, ATAC and SFAFC.

Self-titled demo, Vivada Vis, Self-titled EP, The Disco Before The Breakdown, Acoustic EP.

[Henrik]

The self-titled demo is out of print to my knowledge.

If you really want every singel thing, you need:The acoustic ep (also known as s/t ep) the cd version has 2 more songs than the 7'inch, The disco before breakdown cd/7'inch, cavalier eternal 7'inch, sink Florida sink 7'inch and finally the dvd "we're never going home".
If you're really fanatic you may want the don't loose touch 12'inch

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Dammit, i need some more stuff then.

I downloaded a bunch of Live videos of them, they are awesome.

[TakeWarning]

Yeah, I'm downloading the videos off that site that Chris showed us now.

EDIT: I'm listening to the electric version of Sink Florida Sink for the first time now. I don't particularly like it.

[rawdog]

Thank you my good man. They're coming to Perth right?

Not sure, probabaly.

[TakeWarning]

Not sure, probabaly.

I hope they do. If they don't I shall be most disenchanted.

[good rats]

I hope they do. If they don't I shall be most disenchanted. I know that they are coming to Melb Feb 26th, tickets go on sale december 12th.

Ill check the perth details.

I hope they do. If they don't I shall be most disenchanted. I know that they are coming to Melb Feb 26th, tickets go on sale december 12th.

Ill check the perth details.

Sat Feb 11 The Rev, Brisbane
Tickets on sale from Skinnys, Rocking Horse & hop 'n skip Pit

Sun Feb 12 QUT Guild Bar, Brisbane LIC / ALL AGES
Tickets on sale from Skinnys, Rocking Horse & hop 'n skip Pit

Wed Feb 15 Rosemount, Perth
Tickets on sale through 78 Records, Music Finder, Mills, Beat Karrinyup

Thur Feb 16 HQ, Perth ALL AGES
Tickets on sale through 78 Records, Music Finder, Mills, Beat Karrinyup

Fri Feb 17 Cambridge, Newcastle
Tickets on sale at Sound World Newcastle, Leading Edge Gosford, hop 'n skip Tix outlets and www.moshtix.com

Sat Feb 18 Gaelic Club, Sydney
Tickets on sale through hop 'n skip Tix outlets and www.moshtix.com

Sun Feb 19 Annandale Hotel, Sydney ALL AGES
Tickets on sale at www.annandalehotel.com

Wed Feb 22 Green Room, Canberra
Tickets on sale from Landspeed, Sound ****onground, and The Green Room

Thur Feb 23 Enigma Bar, Adelaide Lic / ALL AGES
Tickets on sale through Venue Tix (0 8225 8888 and CIB (0 8231 0824.

Fri Feb 24 The Venue, Hobart ALL AGES
Tickets on sale from Aroma Records, Mojo Music, Red Hot CDs.

Sat Feb 25 Corner Hotel, Melbourne
Tickets on sale from Corner Box, phone bookings on 9427 9198, online bookings www.cornerhotel.com and via Missing Link records.

Sun Feb 26 Arthouse, Melbourne U18
Ticket on sale from Missing Link.

Tickets on sale December 12

[Henrik]

Yeah, I'm downloading the videos off that site that Chris showed us now.

EDIT: I'm listening to the electric version of Sink Florida Sink for the first time now. I don't particularly like it.


Please show me a link.

[TakeWarning]

Sat Feb 11 The Rev, Brisbane
Tickets on sale from Skinnys, Rocking Horse & hop 'n skip Pit

Sun Feb 12 QUT Guild Bar, Brisbane LIC / ALL AGES
Tickets on sale from Skinnys, Rocking Horse & hop 'n skip Pit

Wed Feb 15 Rosemount, Perth
Tickets on sale through 78 Records, Music Finder, Mills, Beat Karrinyup

Thur Feb 16 HQ, Perth ALL AGES
Tickets on sale through 78 Records, Music Finder, Mills, Beat Karrinyup

Fri Feb 17 Cambridge, Newcastle
Tickets on sale at Sound World Newcastle, Leading Edge Gosford, hop 'n skip Tix outlets and www.moshtix.com

Sat Feb 18 Gaelic Club, Sydney
Tickets on sale through hop 'n skip Tix outlets and www.moshtix.com

Sun Feb 19 Annandale Hotel, Sydney ALL AGES
Tickets on sale at www.annandalehotel.com

Wed Feb 22 Green Room, Canberra
Tickets on sale from Landspeed, Sound ****onground, and The Green Room

Thur Feb 23 Enigma Bar, Adelaide Lic / ALL AGES
Tickets on sale through Venue Tix (0 8225 8888 and CIB (0 8231 0824.

Fri Feb 24 The Venue, Hobart ALL AGES
Tickets on sale from Aroma Records, Mojo Music, Red Hot CDs.

Sat Feb 25 Corner Hotel, Melbourne
Tickets on sale from Corner Box, phone bookings on 9427 9198, online bookings www.cornerhotel.com and via Missing Link records.

Sun Feb 26 Arthouse, Melbourne U18
Ticket on sale from Missing Link.

Tickets on sale December 12

Thank you good sir.

I'll get that link up in a second, Henrik.

EDIT: I tried to YSI it but it didn't work. Sorry.

[good rats]

I have got a fair few AM! videos I can YSI if anyone wants them.

[Lazybassplr56]

Agaisnt Me! is on my list as "One of the best shows that I have been to of all time."

[obese_breasts]

Agaisnt Me! is on my list as "One of the best shows that I have been to of all time."

It's at the Top for me, beating out Bar Religion.

[TakeWarning]

My schoolfriends and I today were saying how we were all going to cream ourselves at the show when they come in February.

Anyone care to tell me what they play as a general setlist?

[Anarcho Poser]

My schoolfriends and I today were saying how we were all going to cream ourselves at the show when they come in February.

Anyone care to tell me what they play as a general setlist?
Reinventing Axl Rose
Sink, Florida, Sink
Those Anarcho Punx
Pints of Guiness
Cavlier Eternal
Baby, I'm an Anarchist
Impact
Cliche Guevara
Justin
How Low
Don't Lose Touch

[Angry Balled Fists!]

That sounds pretty awesome.

Pints if guinness would be so AMAZING live.

Taken from my Last.fm:

Top Tracks – Overall
Generated: Monday Dec 5

1 Against Me! - Pints Of Guinness Make You Str 26
1 Against Me! - T.S.R. 26
3 Against Me! - Slurring the Rhythms 23
3 Against Me! - Those Anarcho Punks Are Myster 23
5 Against Me! - I Still Love You Julie 22
6 Against Me! - Cavalier Eternal 21
6 Against Me! - Cliché Guevara 21
8 Against Me! - Scream it Until You're Coughin 20
9 Against Me! - Rice + Bread 19
10 Against Me! - Jordan's 1st Choice 18
10 Against Me! - Mutiny on the Electronic Bay 18
12 Against Me! - Sink, Florida, Sink 17
12 Against Me! - Unsubstantiated Rumors 17
14 Against Me! - A Brief Yet Triumphant Intermission 16
14 Against Me! - You Look Like I Need A Drink 16
14 Against Me! - Turn Those Clapping Hands Into Angry Balled Fists 16
17 Against Me! - The Politics of Starving 15

[sketchyjoe]

It is their best song.

[Buzzbomb]

I can't stop listening to Wagon Wheel

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Pints of guinness ?

I agree, i learned how to play it the other day, reallt easy but really fun.

[Time]

Man I almost saw them last week...I hate school days

[Buzzbomb]

Now i'm listening to Tearing Down the Walls. I like the lyrics and the guitar but the vocals don't sound anything like other Against Me! songs

[AIRIC]

Guys I just found the 12" EP remastered, and a clean quality version of Vivida Vis.

[Anarcho Poser]

Guys I just found the 12" EP remastered, and a clean quality version of Vivida Vis.
:eek:

[TakeWarning]

Guys I just found the 12" EP remastered, and a clean quality version of Vivida Vis.

Niiice.

Thanks for the setlist, Anarcho Poser, sounds like a good setlist.

[Henrik]

I think the setlist is way to short.

And where is Walking is still honest?

[TakeWarning]

I think the setlist is way to short.

And where is Walking is still honest?

Setlists usually have slight variations every show, bands get tired of playing the same songs every night.

Some days they might play Walking Is Still Honest, others they might not.

[thepo]

Guys I just found the 12" EP remastered, and a clean quality version of Vivida Vis.

Care to share?

Actually, just Haste Killed Creativity, I Am Citizen, **** Stroll, This Is Control, Tearing Down The Walls, and Un-thought Of Heroes is cool.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I need more stuff, like the Acoustic EP.

[DaveToopes]

I need more stuff, like the Acoustic EP.

Dan, I don't have the actual Acoustic EP, but I have some acoustic stuff if you want it.

[Brain Toad]

I need more stuff, like the Acoustic EP.

Get Soulseek, me and Eric both have huge AM! collections (I stole most of mine from him)

[AIRIC]

Vivida Vis is good. The 12" isn't so great because I'm just not a fan of it.

[TakeWarning]

Yeah, I think I'll be needing their complete discography.

[rawdog]

Guys I just found the 12" EP remastered, and a clean quality version of Vivida Vis.
Care to YSI??????????

[jonny no-name]

Get Soulseek, me and Eric both have huge AM! collections (I stole most of mine from him)
what is your name on it?

[AIRIC]

I'm Skrunnch on it.

[BloodSugarSexMagik]

I owned Searching for a Former Clarity, and had all their other CDs downloaded, I bought all the rest of their CDs at the show for under $30....SO if you like AM! and want mo CDs, hit up the Fat tour babey. Yeah, just wanted to get that out there.

[Nerdcore753]

I owned Searching for a Former Clarity, and had all their other CDs downloaded, I bought all the rest of their CDs at the show for under $30....SO if you like AM! and want mo CDs, hit up the Fat tour babey. Yeah, just wanted to get that out there.

They had no merchandise at their free show. Or at least none that I saw. :-(

[SantaDuJuan]

Weird.

[Flagjacket]

I just got RAR on a real life CD. I can feel better about not giving them any money ever now.

[Bad Blood]

Just recently i've been REALLY into these. I love them, especially "Baby, I'm an anarchist"

They're really fun. It's awesome.

[Liebensaft]

I don't know who controls it, but when I try to browse the tabs for Against Me! in the bass section, I get an error. Oh, and it happened for Streetlight Manifesto too.

[Flagjacket]

I don't know who controls it, but when I try to browse the tabs for Against Me! in the bass section, I get an error. Oh, and it happened for Streetlight Manifesto too.
http://www.punknews.org/article.php?sid=14779&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
That mgiht be why.

[Liebensaft]

No, I read that. This has been going on awhile. It kind of sucks because there aren't many tab sites that have good stuff outside of MX.

[good rats]

Use http://www.911tabs.com

It basicly gathers up all the tabs on MX, UltimateGUitar and makes one huge collection.

[Brain Toad]

Use http://www.911tabs.com

It basicly gathers up all the tabs on MX, UltimateGUitar and makes one huge collection.

So it steals other sites tabs without the permission of the site owner or tab writer and places it on their own site.

[Flagjacket]

So it steals other sites tabs without the permission of the site owner or tab writer and places it on their own site.
No, it's like a search engine. It links to those sites, not steals them.

[Liebensaft]

Thanks for that site, it's awesome.

[Brain Toad]

No, it's like a search engine. It links to those sites, not steals them.

I saw that. And adds even more ads than the orginal sites already have.

[TakeWarning]

911tabs is quite useful. I actually think that MX is the most trustworthy tab site on the whole of the intrawebnet.

[Flagjacket]

Yeah, I usually check MX for tabs before I go to 911tabs.

[TakeWarning]

NP: Jamaican Me Crazy. For about the ninth time in a row. This is my favourite song by them at the moment.

[Rise Me Up]

I like Taborama.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Against Me! touring the Uk in March !!

[Henrik]

WHAT? Only UK?

And why is jamaican me crazy called something els on the outside on the cover than inside?

[thepo]

WHAT? Only UK?

And why is jamaican me crazy called something els on the outside on the cover than inside?

Tom liked the name Jamaican Me Crazy better, but the rest of the band felt that Scream It Until Your Coughing Up Blood suited it better.

[Henrik]

haha thanks.

[TakeWarning]

Haha, I never knew that.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Against Me! touring the Uk in March !!

Yesssss touring Australia in February.

[asdf]

Wow, yesterday I found out Against Me! is playing at this local place that I used to go see small local bands at all the time. I also saw Streetlight Manifesto there. I have to go. The only problem is, it's on a wednesday.

But I must go!

[TakeWarning]

Doesn't matter whcih day of the week it is, cancel your appointments and go see them!

[asdf]

Doesn't matter whcih day of the week it is, cancel your appointments and go see them!
I know, I know. I mean, if for some reason I can't go, it's the a huge tragety, because I've seen them before, but I'd still really like to go. It's going to be extremely crowded, but I don't care. It's going to be a great show, and I can't miss it.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Yaeh, i'm going to see them even if it's in the middle of my finals, i'll skip school for them.

I'm so excited for March. It's gonna be an ace start of the year, Coheed and Thrice in February and AM! in March :D

[TakeWarning]

Yeah my friennd and I were discussing the awesomeness of this. I think we're buying tickets tomorrow, the day they come out. How incredibly sad.

Dan: Haha, nice usertitle.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

Yeah, i couldn't fit the "A" in it though.

I'm gonna buy tickets after xmas when i have some money, they are so good live too apparently.

[TakeWarning]

Yeah apparently it is customary to ejaculate while seeing them.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

lmao, i probably will...

[TakeWarning]

Haha me too. I hope no-one notices.

[D & V]

against me are horrid.

[AIRIC]

So are Atari Teenage Riot!

[TakeWarning]

against me are horrid.

Then why the **** are you posting here? Get out.

[sketchyjoe]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Against Me! touring the Uk in March !!
WOO!

[AIRIC]

They hate Albany.

[sketchyjoe]

Yeah, i couldn't fit the "A" in it though.

I'm gonna buy tickets after xmas when i have some money, they are so good live too apparently.I can't wait for March 21st now. And Reverend Horton Heat coming to London next year too.

[TakeWarning]

Have Against Me! toured England before?

[AIRIC]

yes.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I can't wait for March 21st now. And Reverend Horton Heat coming to London next year too.

Is that the Astoria gig ?

I'm gonna go to nottingham rock city again.

[AIRIC]

Rancid Dan is still honest.

[TakeWarning]

I still love you Eric.

[AIRIC]

As the Eternal Warning

[Liebensaft]

Against Me need to come back to the northeast...and stay here indefinitely.

[Flagjacket]

More like, Against Me! needs to become my basement's house band/tenants.

[AIRIC]

Come to Albany specifically.

[TakeWarning]

As the Eternal Warning

Haha. Jamiacan Me crazy Eric.

[Lazybassplr56]

Here's a live Against Me! vid for anyone who cares.

http://www.punknews.org/categories.php?op=newindex&catid=11

[good rats]

AM! tickets go on sale today, and cause I've got nothing better to do, I'm gonna go get me one.

Then when it comes Febuary, I can see them for the second time. Woot.

And this weekend I am making an AM! tee using a few stencils I cut.

[lynch_me]

I saw them on friday and they were being lame.

[Flagjacket]

It looks like I'll be seeing them for the second time on Wednesday.

[good rats]

I saw them on friday and they were being lame.
How were they being lame?

[lynch_me]

FAT setup a scheduled interview with my friend. Then when he went on that day he called the FAT Office they, and said that they weren't gonna do the interview.

They didn't seem like they were into it that much (maybe because they were tired, and it was the last show of the fattour.)

During walking is still honest, tons of kids came on stage and they just walked off in the middle of the song until the kids went back into the crowd.

They also didn't play an encore, which is understandable but they seem like the kind of band that will always do encores, especially when the kids realy wanted them to come back.

[Lazybassplr56]

That sounds pretty gay.

[AIRIC]

They stopped when kids came on stage? Fags.

[Anarcho Poser]

Wow. That sucks.

[obese_breasts]

bunches of kids came on stage at the one here during "We Laugh At Danger" they kept going. That is pretty lame matt.

[sketchyjoe]

I hope Against Me! don't start thinking they're above their music.

[asdf]

It looks like I'll be seeing them for the second time on Wednesday.
As am I. Also my second time.

[Flagjacket]

I hope Against Me! don't start thinking they're above their music.
What do you mean by that, like putting out shitty albums because they're bigger?

[lynch_me]

bunches of kids came on stage at the one here during "We Laugh At Danger" they kept going. That is pretty lame matt.
Blame Canada

[Flagjacket]

bunches of kids came on stage at the one here during "We Laugh At Danger" they kept going. That is pretty lame matt.
First time they came here, some kids got on and everyone stopped but Tom, and Tom just yelled at the band to keep going.

[TakeWarning]

Stopping your music for a minor disruption like kids jumping on stage can sometimes ruin the whole show.

[sketchyjoe]

What do you mean by that, like putting out shitty albums because they're bigger?
It's when a band changes their sound and then claimes that their old music wasn't really what they wanted to do.

[Flagjacket]

It's when a band changes their sound and then claimes that their old music wasn't really what they wanted to do.
That'd be so lame.
"What we REALLY wanted to do was rap metal..."

[live fat, die young]

FAT setup a scheduled interview with my friend. Then when he went on that day he called the FAT Office they, and said that they weren't gonna do the interview.

They didn't seem like they were into it that much (maybe because they were tired, and it was the last show of the fattour.)

During walking is still honest, tons of kids came on stage and they just walked off in the middle of the song until the kids went back into the crowd.

They also didn't play an encore, which is understandable but they seem like the kind of band that will always do encores, especially when the kids realy wanted them to come back.

I was at that show. I went on stage during Walking is Still Honest, I can't really recall them walking off stage though, but the song seemed like a mess as soon as there were a lot of kids on. I don't think they usually do encores. They didn't do one the last two times I them, though, the last time I saw them NOFX was headlining the show. I didn't really think much of the first two bands either, not really my thing. Smoke or Fire, who I heard were pretty good, seemed kinda boring to me.

[Jessizzle]

I was at that show. I went on stage during Walking is Still Honest, I can't really recall them walking off stage though, but the song seemed like a mess as soon as there were a lot of kids on. I don't think they usually do encores. They didn't do one the last two times I them, though, the last time I saw them NOFX was headlining the show. I didn't really think much of the first two bands either, not really my thing. Smoke or Fire, who I heard were pretty good, seemed kinda boring to me.
Were you at the dungeon this saturday?

[Sid]

Wow, didn't think this would come up again.

It's pretty clear that AM! are rockstars now. You can argue until your blue in the face that they aren't, but it won't make it any less true. I don't really care about any the decisions they have made.

Admittidly, pulling Crime off of PIX was a pretty s'hitty thing to do. You know, as those were Tom's friends. Probably the only thing that sort of bothered me.

Luckily, PIX isn't about making money, like money-clenching Tom Gabel.

[live fat, die young]

Haha, ya, I was there. But, instead of seeing the Flatliners, me and my friends played lazer quest then went back to my house and played Super Smash Bro's on Nintendo 64. God, we're cool.

[Jessizzle]

Haha, ya, I was there. But, instead of seeing the Flatliners, me and my friends played lazer quest then went back to my house and played Super Smash Bro's on Nintendo 64. God, we're cool.
Hah. so you stayed for the two crappy bands?!?! the rest of the show was BANANAS.. haha ****ing GD put bananas on the floor.

[live fat, die young]

Nah, we didn't go for any of the show. We just parked in that parking lot near the Dungeon, walked by the doorway, and straight to some lazer tag, motha f'ucka. Then when we were going back to the car, some douche bag asked if any of us had a lighter, and we didn't, and we all happened to say "no" at the same time, and he made some crack about it. I can't remember what he said, but he was a douche bag. Are you going to the Ska Fest when it comes around? I can't remember the date of it.

[lynch_me]

I was at that show. I went on stage during Walking is Still Honest, I can't really recall them walking off stage though, but the song seemed like a mess as soon as there were a lot of kids on. I don't think they usually do encores. They didn't do one the last two times I them, though, the last time I saw them NOFX was headlining the show. I didn't really think much of the first two bands either, not really my thing. Smoke or Fire, who I heard were pretty good, seemed kinda boring to me.
Yeah but see NOFX was headling so it's understandable the openers don't play encores. However, from others who have seen the fattour I know a few i've heard from said they did encores. It doesn't really matter anyways though. I'm pretty sure they did walk off stage untill all the kids were off though.

[Sid]

AM! sets up barriers at their shows now so that the angry 'anarchists' can't have their heads.

[Jessizzle]

Nah, we didn't go for any of the show. We just parked in that parking lot near the Dungeon, walked by the doorway, and straight to some lazer tag, motha f'ucka. Then when we were going back to the car, some douche bag asked if any of us had a lighter, and we didn't, and we all happened to say "no" at the same time, and he made some crack about it. I can't remember what he said, but he was a douche bag. Are you going to the Ska Fest when it comes around? I can't remember the date of it.
the weekend of the 18th. Yeaah Im going. Add me to msn Idiot_Boxx_@hotmail.com

[live fat, die young]

Ya, that's why I mentioned that NOFX headlined. They could have walked off, if you remember it happening, it's more likely that it did than me not noticing. I remember they stopped playing after Walking is Still honest until all the kids got off.

[live fat, die young]

Sweet, I'll probably go to that show. I added you.

[lynch_me]

AM! sets up barriers at their shows now so that the angry 'anarchists' can't have their heads.
No true anarchists have ever really dug Against me, I don't think. when I saw them recently it was actually my first gig without having tons secuirity infront of the crowd.

[lynch_me]

Ya, that's why I mentioned that NOFX headlined. They could have walked off, if you remember it happening, it's more likely that it did than me not noticing. I remember they stopped playing after Walking is Still honest until all the kids got off.
To be honest i can't remember that well, but I know they did stop playing at some point and walked off for a short period of time.

[Flagjacket]

No true anarchists have ever really dug Against me, I don't think. when I saw them recently it was actually my first gig without having tons secuirity infront of the crowd.
They didn't have security at the show they played here, and fromt he sounds of the palce they're playing Wednesday they won't have security there either. Maybe they just like Michigan better?

[sketchyjoe]

The place they're playing in London has annoying security that drag anyone who gets on stage off it before they have a chance to stage dive.

[Lazybassplr56]

Thats what it was like at the Circle Jerks show I went to a year ago. Come on a Circle Jerks show with out stagedives. Lame.

[lynch_me]

Stage diving is stupid in my opinion. Save it for Pearl Jam.

[Nerdcore753]

Stage diving is lame. And I didn't have a ride to the last two times Circle Jerks played nearby.

[good rats]

Yea, I dont like stage diving. Ive come to watch a band, not have some kid jump on my head.

[Lazybassplr56]

Bummer. So fun live.

[Sid]

No true anarchists have ever really dug Against me, I don't think. when I saw them recently it was actually my first gig without having tons secuirity infront of the crowd.

I think Anarchists in quotations might have given that away.

And i'm sure some people that think they're anarchists listen to AM! or did. Tom has said he's an anarchist (or has anarchist ideals, same thing), he's bound to have attracted people that believe to hold the same status.

[sketchyjoe]

Stage Diving is cool if you do it once but those idiots who did it every single song piss me off.

[TakeWarning]

I tell ya stage dives make me feel more alive than coded messages in slowed down songs.

Seeriously though, if anyone stage dives next show I'm at I'll be sure to kidney-punch them and steal their wallets.

[good rats]

Stage Diving is cool if you do it once but those idiots who did it every single song piss me off.
Yea, I dont mind it if it happens a couple of times. But when people just keep going it pisses me off.

[good rats]

I tell ya stage dives make me feel more alive than coded messages in slowed down songs.

Seeriously though, if anyone stage dives next show I'm at I'll be sure to kidney-punch them and steal their wallets.
Haha, thats what I'll most likely do. The guys that normally stage dive at shows around here are kids who dont know better.

[rawdog]

This crime **** is ghey. I use to think their ideals hadn't changed all that much, but now, I guess they proved me wrong. At least we still have their old CDs. The saddest thing is, I don't own crime, and I really wanna buy it, but I don't wanna support the business decision that they made.

EDIT: And I made a new avatar, you can't see toms head to well, but its there.

[rawdog]

Look what I just found.

hey.
okay, so you know that against me! ask me to stop repressing the crime EP right? i would just like to clear up a few things. they never order me to stop repressing it. there was no threat of legal action or anything. they just asked me to stop...

they gave me 3 reasons.

1. they never knew the status of the release, if it was in print or not etc?
2. they didn't like the packaging.
3. they thought it cost too much in the no idea catalog.

i wrote back and addressed these three issues:

1. it has been in print since day one. it has never gone out of print. everytime i repressed it i sent them 200 more free copies. they have my email and phone number and could check the "status" at anytime.

i said i would be more than glad to give them reports on this.

2. i allow bands to have any type of packaging they want. the first pressing was in a case. when the 2nd pressing came up i was in gainesville and i ask tom if there was anything he wanted to change, we agreed that the sleeve/bag package would be better since it would make more room in the van.

i said we could change it back to anything they want

3. the no idea CD-EP is cheaper in the no idea catalog because no idea released it. it makes sense, i sell the crime ep to them for 3.50. since PIX sells all it's cds for 5 or 3.50 wholesale or 2.50 to bands, i can't afford to have lower prices for EPs. normal record labels can do that. no idea makes enough money off of their full length CDs to sell eps cheap and to sell LPs. that plan doesn't work for PIX. cheap cds limit what we can do.

there was nothing i could do about this.

so i told them that i really wanted to continue to release the CD. and i told them that it meant a lot to me to have it on plan-it-x and that i really loved the songs (i do). i told them that i really did not want to quit repressing it. i told them i did not agree with their complaints and that i would also do anything i could to make them happy and keep the release. i also told them the decision is theirs since i DO NOT own the music. they do.

i didn't get a response for a few months, then jordan wrote me and told me that they had repressed it already.

needless to say this hurts my feelings.
this is the first time a band has ever done anything like this to me.

i love the record and the music and it means a lot to me.

i don't really understand the argument that they just really want to release their own records and be DIY since they have a lot of releases on other labels and don't seem to be taking any of them back.

if they did take back all their releases and start only releasing their own records i would have great respect for them. but in this case it's hard not to take it personally. i think they dislike the rift that has grown between them and the DIY punks and somehow they think i am a part of it.

i don't really understand. i am hurt.

it took me a while to think of what to say about this.
i didn't want to say anything really but at every show kids ask me.
i hear kids saying dumb stuff about against me!, taking be to court,
or ordering me to stop repressing the CD.

it wasn't like that. but it was sad regardless.

i love the crime ep and i love the people in against me!. let that be known.

this is not a complaint, this is just information.

i hope no one from against me! takes it the wrong way.

i just wanted to explain this deal to the kids.

i still have about 300 crime eps and will sell them until they run out. the new pressing on sabot does not have the song: BURN BURN BURN. so if you want that song, get the CD before it's gone. i'm sending 200 to no idea soon, and will sell the last 100 myself.

please stop asking me questions about agianst me.
they (by their choice) are no longer a part of the PIX family.

i miss them.

-chris


But still, I stand by what I said about their ideals changing.

[TakeWarning]

Against Me! are getting pretty damn big now. I'm not really sure if their ideals have changed but I'm leaning more towards the "they have" direction.

[good rats]

Well...if this counts.

I love the music, but I really cant be ****ed getting caught up with there "ideals" and what not. I dont care if they turn into money greedy bastards, I've already got the music I want, so I'll listen to that and let them do what they want. But thats just me.

[TakeWarning]

Well...if this counts.

I love the music, but I really cant be ****ed getting caught up with there "ideals" and what not. I dont care if they turn into money greedy bastards, I've already got the music I want, so I'll listen to that and let them do what they want. But thats just me.

Yeah, same here, I still listen to Blink 182 on a regular basis, (now), even though they "sold out". I don't even care whether Against Me! "sell out" or not.

[rawdog]

Well...if this counts.

I love the music, but I really cant be ****ed getting caught up with there "ideals" and what not. I dont care if they turn into money greedy bastards, I've already got the music I want, so I'll listen to that and let them do what they want. But thats just me.
But I think that their lyrics and ideals what made them stand out. The passion about it all. From the new album, whilst the passion is still there, its not as great. But yeah, at least we still do have the old cds, except you can't buy crime anymore soon, hooray for illegal downloads.

[good rats]

Yeah, same here, I still listen to Blink 182 on a regular basis, (now), even though they "sold out". I don't even care whether Against Me! "sell out" or not.
Exactly.

On another completely irrelevant topic, my leg is itchy.

I can't wait til Febuary though. I get to see AM! again.:)

[Henrik]

I must have lived in a bunker for some time, cause i've missed some news here.

Will someone please explain to me what the thing about not repressing crime is?

[TakeWarning]

Against Me! told Plan-it-X Records not to repress the Crime...As Forgiven By Against Me! EP, so Plain-It-X are pretty pissed off at them. Anyway, everyone is accusing Against Me! of being ghey selloutz, and are now discussing the repercussions and ramifactions of them being selloutz.

[Henrik]

Thanks, Is their any difference in the songs on the new re-issued and the old cd on www.interpunk.com ?
Do both of them have burn burn burn on them?

[TakeWarning]

The one you can get shipped from Plan-It-X has Burn Burn Burn on it, but the are the only one that have it. I'm guessing the one you can get from interpunk doesn't have Burn Burn Burn.

[AIRIC]

Well that officially made it for me, they are sellout f'uckers.

[Sid]

Against Me! told Plan-it-X Records not to repress the Crime...As Forgiven By Against Me! EP, so Plain-It-X are pretty pissed off at them. Anyway, everyone is accusing Against Me! of being ghey selloutz, and are now discussing the repercussions and ramifactions of them being selloutz.

No, Chris is just disappointed.

Tom said that he wanted to press his own cds to be DIY but he only took Crime off of PIX. Why not take all the albums back from Fat? That would be DIY.

The one you can get shipped from Plan-It-X has Burn Burn Burn on it, but the are the only one that have it. I'm guessing the one you can get from interpunk doesn't have Burn Burn Burn.

Yeah I think Chris has 300 Crime EPs left. Future releases of Crime by interpunk or Sabot or whoever is selling them won't have Burn.

[lynch_me]

The one you can get shipped from Plan-It-X has Burn Burn Burn on it, but the are the only one that have it. I'm guessing the one you can get from interpunk doesn't have Burn Burn Burn.
Thats not true. I recently picked up the reissue on SABOT at their show, and while it doesn't have burn on the tracklisting all they did was make it a secret song.

[Sid]

Thats not true. I recently picked up the reissue on SABOT at their show, and while it doesn't have burn on the tracklisting all they did was make it a secret song.

I think there are a certain amount that still have Burn on it, but I'm fairly certain that after a point (they're are all sold out) new issues of Crime won't have it. Tom doesn't like the song.

[DaveToopes]

Against Me! makes me angry!

Burn is a good song.

I am dissapointed.

[Lazybassplr56]

Smash stuff when your angry.

[DaveToopes]

Smash stuff when your angry.

I'm not THAT angry, because I can still listen to their old stuff. But then I get on to thinking what a shame it is that they changed so much, that, is why I am angry.

But still keep in mind i'm not to angry, smashing things may come later.

[Anarcho Poser]

I think there are a certain amount that still have Burn on it, but I'm fairly certain that after a point (they're are all sold out) new issues of Crime won't have it. Tom doesn't like the song.
It probably makes him cringe in records of shame.

I get upset with them sometimes, but then I listen to a few songs, and remember how awsome the shows were, and I love them again. It's kind of like a terrible relationship with amazing sex.

[lynch_me]

I think there are a certain amount that still have Burn on it, but I'm fairly certain that after a point (they're are all sold out) new issues of Crime won't have it. Tom doesn't like the song.
I think It will still have it. Even if Tom doesn't like the song.

[TakeWarning]

I don't even have Crime EP. I guess I'll get it later today.

[rawdog]

I don't even have Crime EP. I guess I'll get it later today.
I have it on computer, I'd like the real thing though.

[TakeWarning]

I'd like the real thing for every album, but it's too much effort and money to go out and buy it. I think I might buy As The Eternal Cowboy as it's such a exquisite album.

[rawdog]

I'd like the real thing for every album, but it's too much effort and money to go out and buy it. I think I might buy As The Eternal Cowboy as it's such a exquisite album.
I've got every from reinventing onwards that I bought, I have all the others on computer.

[TakeWarning]

I've got everything burnt except RAR, but I'm going to buy As The Eternal Cowboy as soon as I have money.

[Angry Balled Fists!]

I ordered their three full lengths for xmas.

[Flagjacket]

asdf, were you the short girl with the poofy hair and red shirt?

[asdf]

asdf, were you the short girl with the poofy hair and red shirt?
Yep, that'd be me.

[Flagjacket]

Ha, my hand got stuck in your hair once and I got it out carefully. I was the uh, Asian one?

[asdf]

Ha, my hand got stuck in your hair once and I got it out carefully.
haha, yeah, that happend to a lot of people. Sorry about that. I should've tied my hair up or something.

So what'd you think of the show? My friends who went and saw them in Detroit awhile back thought that the Detroit show was much better, but I had a great time.

[Flagjacket]

This show was better than the Detroit show, and the Detroit show was pretty amazing, so this one was like, super amazing. My friend grabbed Tom's pick afterwards.

[asdf]

This show was better than the Detroit show, and the Detroit show was pretty amazing, so this one was like, super amazing. My friend grabbed Tom's pick afterwards.
Awesome. I tried very hard to get close to the stage but to no avail. Which sucked because of my lack of height.

[Flagjacket]

I was being crushed beneath mountains of people. I ended up standing next to the wall for most of Against Me!'s set with my girlfriend.

[AIRIC]

Haha an Asian with a girlfriend. Laf.

[lynch_me]

Haha an Asian with a girlfriend. Laf.
Aren't your parents getting an asian foster child?:rolleyes:

[TakeWarning]

I have an Asian sex slave tied up in my basement right now?

[AIRIC]

Aren't your parents getting an asian foster child?:rolleyes:

Yeah... I guess they are. Shutup Mattchew.

[SnazzJazz]

I loooove Against Me! Reinventing Axl Rose is all killer and no filler. But there are other songs like Disco Before the Breakdown, Burn, Sink Florida Sink, and others that just never die.

[Flagjacket]

http://www.againstme.net/
*cries*

[AIRIC]

Against Me! are rockstars now.

[Anxious]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[AIRIC]

I'm not that upset. They were dead to me when they took Crimes off of PIX.

[Buzzbomb]

Ok, now they are just dead to me. It was inevitable(sp?) that they would sign to a major label.

[Brain Toad]

Lolz selloutz

I don't really care, they must've never care about their politics if they were so quick to sign to a major independent then a full blown major. I'll still listen if the music is good.

[sketchyjoe]

It was inevitable.

[Nerdcore753]

Lame.

[Buzzbomb]

Lolz selloutz

I don't really care, they must've never care about their politics if they were so quick to sign to a major independent then a full blown major. I'll still listen if the music is good.

I don't see how they can write good music anymore without being total hypocties.

[Brain Toad]

I don't see how they can write good music anymore without being total hypocties.

I enjoy their music beyond their 'politics'.

[England5Germany1]

I feel sick. i really wanted to believe that they were above this kinda ****. when they signed to Fat i pretended it didnt bother me, i mean fat is still (somewhat) punk right. I guess thats really my fault, but still...**** them.

[lynch_me]

It was inevitable.
truth