The Official Against Me! Thread

[Angry Balled Fists!]

atec>crime>rar>dbtbd>acoustic>sfafc>newwave

main ep's/lp's

[Henrik]

Hmm I can't make them that precise, but it's definitely pre 2004 >>>>>> post 2004.

Live at C.O.R.E. rules hard!

[SkaRobotArmy]

so of the 4 people i am going to this show with. i am positive at least two are fans of the new stuff and the fourth i have never met but is likely as well. it will be interesting.

[Cliche]

I'm going with four other people.

1. Loves everything except New Wave
2. Loves everything, thinks New Wave is alright
3. "
4. Doesn't really listen to Against Me!, but thinks New Wave is good
5. Loves everything (Me)

[tom79]

I'm going with my brothers and two friends who only know AM! because of me.

[Flagjacket]

I'm going with four other people.

1. Loves everything except New Wave
2. Loves everything, thinks New Wave is alright
3. "
4. Doesn't really listen to Against Me!, but thinks New Wave is good
5. Loves everything (Me)

Thanks now I don't have to guess about your friends

[Cliche]

Thanks now I don't have to guess about your friends


Yeah, I figured I'd save you the trouble.

[AIRIC]

I love everything pre 04. And everyone else better love everything pre 04 or they're not coming.

[Henrik]

I've startetd to enjoy Vivida Vis.

[tom79]

So I read on their site that Cancer Bats and Dirty Tricks are opening on Oct.1.

Haven't heard of Dirty Tricks, but their songs on myspace don't sound bad. Never got into Cancer Bats (only heard a few songs) but that got one more friend of mine into going.

[AIRIC]

Cancer Bats are awful.

[CatfishJones]

Cancer Bats are awful.

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[tom79]

Yeah...I kinda got that impression too.

[Cliche]

I don't care who's opening, I'm just ****ing pumped I get to see them in 7 days.

[SkaRobotArmy]

i dont know either of them but i forgot my tickets at home when i came back to school so now i probably have to drive 2 hours home to get the tickets and then an hour back to the show...

[SkaRobotArmy]

well, i got the tickets but then got bailed on so i've got two extras for tonight if anybody has got them yet and plans to go. just want what i paid for 'em

[Cliche]

well, i got the tickets but then got bailed on so i've got two extras for tonight if anybody has got them yet and plans to go. just want what i paid for 'em


I know a guy who likes them, but he's really untrustworthy and probably wouldn't even show up.

I'm so excited for tonight though!

[asdf]

Going on Tour with World/Inferno and Sage Francis soon. I'm considering going, but since it's not very close to where I live... eh.

[Liebensaft]

I'm definitely gonna go. It'll be a great show. November 16, whoop whoop!

[Ghostfire3]

I'm going to the Chicago date. I've never seen Against Me! live.

[tom79]

Just got back from the Toronto show. It was awesome.

Man I'm tired.

[Win A Rabbit]

My friend asked me the other day to burn him a cd of Against Me!'s best stuff.

So I burned a bunch of the old stuff (basically anything pre-SFAFC, plus the singles from New Wave at his request), and he told me he couldn't stand any of it. So now he just wants me to burn him New Wave.

:( /is disappointed in friend.

[asdf]

Just say "no" to burning music you don't like.

[SkaRobotArmy]

dude how'd you get home so fast? we got stuck behind a cop and two city trucks doing like 20k down the 404 to take down construction signs, they had the whole highway blocked off behind them, it made me angrier than anything ever.

the redeeming factor is the show was pretty f'ucking awesome. took them forever to start cause the stupid techy couldn't make toms equipment work and fiddled for like a half hour then they came out and it still didn't work, tom spent like 30 seconds on it and bang. lesson learned? set your own **** up...

also for some anarchists who hope 'their songs never make on fu'cking dollar' they had a reaaaally nice tour bus and all brand new equipment.

no acoustics, mostly new stuff but it was way better live than the album versions of everything, glad i went etc etc would go again.

[tom79]

Yeah it did take forever for them to start. I was expecting a lot of New Wave but it sounds a lot better live than on record so its okay. Only thing that would have been better is if they maybe played a different song other than Borne on the FM Waves but right after it they kicked into Reinventing so it was all good.

[Cliche]

Stop! is 37892 times better live.

And they closed with Baby, I'm an Anarchist!

[SkaRobotArmy]

yea that was super sick. i really thought the encore would be acoustic though... i love his rickenbacker.

[DFelon204409]

Why have American Steel and Against Me's LPs progressed in such similar ways.

Rough likable debut LP --> More refined but still rough and awesome sophomore --> Overproduced and influenced by weird genres like reggae and other stuff third LP --> 'major label' type debut which is super over produced but still has good songs

[SkaRobotArmy]

Why do all good bands progress in such similar ways.

Rough likable debut LP --> More refined but still rough and awesome sophomore --> Overproduced and influenced by weird genres like reggae and other stuff third LP --> 'major label' type debut which is super over produced but still has good songs

if this is what you meant, it means they get better at what they do - songwriting and playing. in doing so, they build a fan base through the first few, somebody on top see's this and decides they can make money on them. it seems to be the way of pretty much of every band.

[Cliche]

Also, I was very pissed off that they didn't bring ANY vinyl.

[tom79]

Last time I saw them all they had on vinyl was New Wave and the live album I think.

and TSR was awesome as the first encore song yesterday.

[Cliche]

Hmm, last time I saw them (in march) they had almost every album there. Guess I'll have to check out eBay.

[Jessizzle]

its really creepy how you posted at EXACTLY 235... the EXACT time we get out of school..

but oh yeah the reason i came in here, did you go to the tshirt place?

[Cliche]

its really creepy how you posted at EXACTLY 235... the EXACT time we get out of school..

but oh yeah the reason i came in here, did you go to the tshirt place?


I didn't go to school today.

And no, I didn't go. Turns out that the Exploding Hearts families like to sue people who make bootleg shirts and sell them and stuff. So I'm only going to make one.

[Jessizzle]

thats lame... i want to make more shirts, but im too cheap to pay unless i get a good deal

[SkaRobotArmy]

when i went to the merch table all they had left was new wave and three small or medium sized thrash unreal shirts.

[Cliche]

when i went to the merch table all they had left was new wave and three small or medium sized thrash unreal shirts.

I got there pretty early, so I got the exploding guitar shirt. They had like 5 or 6 shirts, a sweater, and the New Wave CD.

[tom79]

When I get some money I'm gonna send an order to No Idea to get an AM! Sheild logo shirt, and the Disco EP since I don't own it physically.

[Cliche]

I've got a marble green copy of the Disco EP.

That's the only EP of theirs that I own, so I want to get the rest.

[Henrik]

The RAR-logo T-shirt I bought of No Idea was a pretty bad quality T-shirt.

[big80smullet]

I love against me! my friend just got me into the over last summer but im pretty addicted. I cant get any of their albums in asutralia though which is a bit crap. I didnt like New wave as much but its still pretty acceptable.

[Johnny Quest.]

The RAR-logo T-shirt I bought of No Idea was a pretty bad quality T-shirt.

Yeah, i bought it too. Generally, i think all band t-shirts are fairly low quality, although Cinder Block's tee's are pretty good.

[Henrik]

Yep I agree. Most of the band t-shirts I've bought have sucked. I have had one Ramones shirt and one Dropkick Murphys shirt that have been good stuff.
Most of the times the T-shirts gets damn ugly after 2 or 3 washes.

[SkaRobotArmy]

its more punk that way.
but seriously, if they were good quality shirts you would probably have to pay more for them, as long as they aren't uncomfortable i dont' really care, i'm used to it.

[Rise Me Up]

If you flip them inside out before you wash them, they tend to fade and crack less.

[NewKindofArmy03]

I saw them for free last weekend and while they were good, the setlist kind of sucked. One song off of Reinventing Axl Rose and three or so songs off As the Eternal Cowboy. The new stuff does sound a lot better live than on recording though.

They're playing here again in November but i'll wait to see if the setlist for the tour is any better.

[obese_breasts]

This thread is proof that Against Me! will never die.

[Henrik]

I'm seeing them in three days. I hope for a good setlist.

[Lexluthor]

I'm seeing them in three days. I hope for a good setlist.

The chances aren't good. It seems on their recent tour its been almost entirely songs from New Wave. When I saw them "Pints Of Guinness" was the only early song they played (kind of disappointing).

[Cliche]

The chances aren't good. It seems on their recent tour its been almost entirely songs from New Wave. When I saw them "Pints Of Guinness" was the only early song they played (kind of disappointing).

That sucks for you, because when they played in Toronto they played Pints on Guinness, Walking is Still Honest, Baby, I'm an Anarchist, Rice and Bread, TSR, and Sink Florida Sink. Plus probably a couple from from ATEC that I can't remember. Only about 4 or 5 songs were from New Wave.

[obese_breasts]

They still play Baby I'm an Anarchist?! Weird, last 2 times I've seen them they haven't played it, although they did play Disco Before the Breakdown one of those

[Cliche]

They still play Baby I'm an Anarchist?! Weird, last 2 times I've seen them they haven't played it, although they did play Disco Before the Breakdown one of those


Yeah, they rarely ever play it anymore, I was really surprised when they went into it.

[Cliche]

I am inferior.

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[tom79]

They played Baby I'm An Anarchist as encores both times I saw them. And We Laugh at Danger and What We Worked For just the first.

Only about 4 or 5 songs were from New Wave.
They played all of New Wave except Piss and Vinegar and Animal I'm pretty sure.

Does anyone know if they ever play Politics of Starving or Jordan's First Choice Live? I've never heard of them playing those.

[SkaRobotArmy]

dunno, i love jordans first choice though. i was super stoked about baby i'm an anarchist even if it was electric.

[lynch_me]

Good article on the band's recent history:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20070928/cm_thenation/20071015gottlieb_1


Everything they are doing doesn't bother me..its just funny that they expect no one would call them on their ****. They are touring in a big bus now when buses used to be for "bands with a lot of ****ing egos".

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

That was a really good article. I think it's sad that the band that made RAR doesn't exist anymore but to harbor resentment against them (ha) is pointless. I got pretty pissed for awhile but I'm over it. I do wish they'd be awesome again, but whatever.

[widzjnent]

yesterday in utrecht (holland) they played a very good setlist:
pints of guinness, cliche, axl rose, rice and bread, sink florida sink
unprotected sex, from her lips, problems, don't loose thouch
and a couple of new wave songs, it sounds alot better live than on cd though

after the encore they played TSR, walking is still honest and baby i'm an anarchist

the reaction of the crowd to the old songs was much better including myself, i guess thats why they played some old songs at the end

it was great

[TakeWarning]

That was a really good article. I think it's sad that the band that made RAR doesn't exist anymore but to harbor resentment against them (ha) is pointless. I got pretty pissed for awhile but I'm over it. I do wish they'd be awesome again, but whatever.

Yeah me too. But I predict they'll continue to go downhill from here on.

[Cliche]

They played all of New Wave except Piss and Vinegar and Animal I'm pretty sure.

Hmm, now I think about it, you're right.

[big80smullet]

Any one heard ben lees cover of new wave. Its pretty bad IMO

[AIRIC]

Yeah its kind of bad.

[SkaRobotArmy]

i liked it other than the vocals were kind of shitty. who is ben lee anyway?

[tom79]

Australian guy.

I only listened to it once but didn't care for it much.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

I kinda liked it. You know, given what he has to work with.

[SkaRobotArmy]

Good article on the band's recent history:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20070928/cm_thenation/20071015gottlieb_1


Everything they are doing doesn't bother me..its just funny that they expect no one would call them on their ****. They are touring in a big bus now when buses used to be for "bands with a lot of ****ing egos".

he says they kinda knew it would happen but didn't really care. the music is still good, just in a different context. there is only like what, one girl song on new wave? he's still challenging the process and things, its still rebellious just not on the same scale as it was before. Anyone who cares to listen can pretty much get the whole story from their music, 'unprotected sex with multiple partners' basically says why they switched to a major label and to me kind of hints at an intent to revert back to their old selves when its all over, this is just so that they can indeed go on making music. I dont know if you anyone here has ever been in a touring band but i can only imagine how tough it is to make **** meet, especially playing in 'churches and laundromats'. i feel its kinda justified as long as it stays credible, intelligent and continues to question things.

[Flagjacket]

Against Me! has one girl song on all of their albums.

[lynch_me]

he says they kinda knew it would happen but didn't really care. the music is still good, just in a different context. there is only like what, one girl song on new wave? he's still challenging the process and things, its still rebellious just not on the same scale as it was before. Anyone who cares to listen can pretty much get the whole story from their music, 'unprotected sex with multiple partners' basically says why they switched to a major label and to me kind of hints at an intent to revert back to their old selves when its all over, this is just so that they can indeed go on making music. I dont know if you anyone here has ever been in a touring band but i can only imagine how tough it is to make **** meet, especially playing in 'churches and laundromats'. i feel its kinda justified as long as it stays credible, intelligent and continues to question things.

I wouldn't care if they hadn't stressed the DIY thing so far. However, I do think it's a shame, and just because of it some people are over looking a pretty decent album too. Whatever, tom has lied in interviews before.

[Cliche]

Whatever, tom has lied in interviews before.

Go on?

[lynch_me]

1) Said that they got free food at KFC because Colonel Sanders had a relative die of starvation, so they were obligated to give out free food.

2) Said that they got trapped on an elevator while on tour in Canada when that really happened to Adam from Bombs over providence. There's an interview with Adam, i'll look for it.

What a silly thing to fib about..

[Flagjacket]

"Hey guys I'm Tom Gabel as you can see I live a hard life, which includes getting free food and standing in an elevator."

[lynch_me]

Those are some pretty offensive lies. Whats next? He drank a margarita out of paris hilton's ear when it was really Witney houstan's ear?

[Flagjacket]

It's spelled Houston you could find it on any world map if you weren't against art you Philistine.

[lynch_me]

Ha, yeah. Sorry, I don't buy Elle magazine to read about her and Booby Brown to know how to spell her name. Where do you go to subscribe again?

[Flagjacket]

The only magazine Whitney Houston would be in anymore is the National Inquirer.

[obese_breasts]

Bazing!

[mullets suk]

tom has lied in interviews before.

i love it when people take AM! interviews seriously, cause ive only seen them make jokes and lies.

(that wasnt insulting you or anything, im just makin a gen statement)

[lynch_me]

I find that hard to believe.

[Flagjacket]

To start off, please tell me the names of who is answering these questions and what you do in the band.
My name is Tom, I play guitar and sing.

PSYCHE

[me likes punk]

I am inferior.

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No way does someone really own all those...




And to Kevin: that was a funny post. I'll give you that much credit.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

A couple dudes on VLV have an insane amount of AM! records.

[Henrik]

I saw Against Me! last night. It was actually really really good. Only thing I didn't really enjoy was when they played "The Ocean". That song is not really good and it is very boring during a great fast live show to listen to such a song.

We Laugh At Danger (And Break All The Rules) at the end was amazing. Plus they played TSR which is one of my favorites.

I got to talk to both Andrew and Warren after the show, and they seemed pretty nice.

[tom79]

They play Ocean a lot as a closer before the encore, and sometimes they drag it out a bit but I think it's one of the better songs on New Wave.

[Henrik]

I think it might be the worst IMO.

[tom79]

Nah. Animal, Borne on the FM Waves, and Stop! are all worse in my opinion.

[Anarcho Poser]

I like Borne on the FM Waves. maybe that's just because I related closely with it when it came out. Animal and Ocean are pretty terrible though

[obese_breasts]

Animal is the hands down worst song on that cd.

I like Ocean

[asdf]

I had no interest in seeing Against Me! again, but I just found out that World/Inferno will be with them when they come to my hometown, so I'm going.

And I mean what the hell, I've always had fun a against me shows, so why not?

[obese_breasts]

I saw them a month ago and it was really fun, you'll probably enjoy yourself

[Brewing Up With]

I'm seeing them this Monday in Vienna. Hopefully they play old stuff...

[Henrik]

Don't get your hopes too high. They didn't when I saw them last monday.
As far as I can recall they played Pint Og Guinness, Walking Is Still Honest and We Laugh At Danger as the only RAR songs.
Then they played TSR, Sink Florida Sink and I'm pretty postive that they played Rice And Bread And Cliche Guevarra too.

The rest was New Wave and Clarity stuff, but it was still a good concert. Up The Cuts was good live.

[tom79]

Really, New Wave songs sound pretty good live, except Borne of the FM Waves kinda kills the mood for a bit. Obviously there will be lots of NW, it's the NW tour. I've seen 6 RAR songs live before.

[Cliche]

I do have to say that the New Wave songs are a lot better live. But I disagree with you saying Borne kills the mood, if anything, The Ocean kills it.

[Henrik]

Borne On The FM Waves Of The Heart is a way better song than both Animal and The Ocean.

[Brewing Up With]

Ocean>FM waves>animal

animal is worse than most popular music

i like that under my umbrella song bettere than animal dude

[Flagjacket]

Ocean>FM waves>animal

animal is worse than most popular music

i like that under my umbrella song bettere than animal dude

Well most popular music happens to be a lot better than most punk going around right now so I mean

ella ella ella

ay ay ay under my umbrella

PS: That song hasn't been hot for like three months now

[Henrik]

Hehe, I don't even think that Umbrealla song is that bad.

[TakeWarning]

I hate that bit where she just randomly starts going "ella ella ella ay ay ay ella ella" and continues on that path for about 4 more minutes.

[Flagjacket]

No clouds in my storrrm

[SkaRobotArmy]

it is very bareable for what it is for some reason...

[Flagjacket]

You guys are all homos "Oh wow a song that's on the radio that's good isn't that a paradox"

[SkaRobotArmy]

it is.

[AIRIC]

I hate every post Kevin makes.

[Anarcho Poser]

i like the covers of that song.

[Win A Rabbit]

:lol: I went to vote in the municipal election today and had my mp3 player on random.

As I was walking to the booth with the ballots in my hand, "Baby I'm An Anarchist" started playing.

I lol'd a bit.

[Henrik]

I don't understand why some anarchists don't wanna vote.
I respect that they wish for a different society with more democracy and all that, but why not vote anyways?

[Flagjacket]

Because voting enables the current government and anarchists hate things that have to do with government

[Cocaine]

ballot scratch

[Henrik]

Because voting enables the current government and anarchists hate things that have to do with government
Yeah I see, but if I were and anarchist, I would much rather vote for a democratic socialist than a liberal for instance. By not voting at all you risk that the society gets even worse.

[Ghostfire3]

Because they don't want to become a part of the system. Smash the state.

[Flagjacket]

Yeah I see, but if I were and anarchist, I would much rather vote for a democratic socialist than a liberal for instance. By not voting at all you risk that the society gets even worse.

False, you would much rather vote for an anarchist or set a politician on fire than vote.

[AndreTheHyena]

False. I consider myself an anarchist to an extent, and I still vote. My own personal policies would not benefit the nation as a whole, so I don't mind voting for a "lesser of two evils" candidate with the idea of benefitting the greater good, most of whom will never know, understand, or care for the independent ideologies that I espouse.

[Flagjacket]

Andrew fails to mention he himself does not care to shave, bathe, or trim his pubes.

[obese_breasts]

I thought that was all implied in the the word anarchist

[TakeWarning]

You know what's a joke? Compulsory voting.

[Henrik]

False. I consider myself an anarchist to an extent, and I still vote. My own personal policies would not benefit the nation as a whole, so I don't mind voting for a "lesser of two evils" candidate with the idea of benefitting the greater good, most of whom will never know, understand, or care for the independent ideologies that I espouse.
That was what I meant.
I do understand though, that if you live in America and only have two different parties to vote for, the situation is a little bit different.

[SkaRobotArmy]

i dunno, in the states there is hardly a 'lesser' evil. but yea, i think i would still vote.

[mullets suk]

thats the problem, in America you have the republicans who are hardcore bomb the hell out of everyone, screw gays (pun?), america is the best. then you got your democrats who are hardcore left and try to help everyone and they dont see that to do all there social betterment crap actually hurts people more, though higher taxes, less money going around to things that are actually important.

[Cocaine]

thats the problem, in America you have the republicans who are hardcore bomb the hell out of everyone, screw gays (pun?), america is the best. then you got your democrats who are hardcore left and try to help everyone and they dont see that to do all there social betterment crap actually hurts people more, though higher taxes, less money going around to things that are actually important.

democrats are hardly hardcore left. you're ignant.

get back on topic

[Flagjacket]

thats the problem, in America you have the republicans who are hardcore bomb the hell out of everyone, screw gays (pun?), america is the best. then you got your democrats who are hardcore left and try to help everyone and they dont see that to do all there social betterment crap actually hurts people more, though higher taxes, less money going around to things that are actually important.

America through the eyes of an 11 year old who reads Newsweek!

[mullets suk]

America through the eyes of an 16 year old who got my info though my parents who talk about how much democrats are ruining this country.


fix'd

anyways back on topic. im going to see AM! in Nov at the DC date. anyone else going?

[Ghostfire]

I might go see them on the 15th, but it's in rhode island and i'm in new hampshire. thats a pretty long drive, but for against me, i think its worth it.

[Flagjacket]

I might go see them on the 15th, but it's in rhode island and i'm in new hampshire. thats a pretty long drive, but for against me, i think its worth it.

Uh oh Screename conflict!

[Brewing Up With]

The concert in Vienna was epic.

The set list was awesome. They played 7 or 8 old songs.

The cool part though, was that my friend and I met Andrew before their set. We talked with him a bit and told him how we were on a study abroad foreign exchange program. We just continued our small talk and about an hour later they came on stage to play. About 5 songs in they started playing Americans Abroad and I was up front right at the middle of the stage. When it got to the "We're Americans abroad! We're Americans abroad!" part Andrew smiled and pointed at me and my friend and gave us a wink.

Pretty f'ucking sweet.

[SkaRobotArmy]

so i finally discovered how to properly catalogue my music and fix the file names and i'm going through my against me stuff. is RAR all electric? or mostly? cause i know a lot of the songs appear on more than one record and from what i've heard i think the electric ones are all on RAR correct?

[mullets suk]

all electric except jordans first choice, 8 full hours of sleep "I still love you julie "which also appears on crime.

"jordans first choice" and "8 full hours of sleep" are acoustic i think. ether that or they may just be electric with out distortion.

[obese_breasts]

I Still Love You Julie is on Crime??? I totally didn't know that

[SkaRobotArmy]

so those three are acoustic? because i just discovered i actually have MOST of their albums downloaded without actually knowing it. i have all of RAR but i think its all acoustic. so i'm going to buy the album tomorrow and see i guess.

[tom79]

Jordan's First Choice on RAR is electric. 8 Full Hours of Sleep is the only acoustic track on RAR.

[TakeWarning]

When I Still Love You Julie is played on electric, it loses all its subtlety, the acoustic version is so much better.

[Ephemeral]

I always liked the acoustic versions of those songs better.

[mullets suk]

so im seeing AM! on tuesday, any one else going?

so today at my schools coffee house two guys played those anarcho punks... which was pretty good. they didnt stop at the break, but it still was cool. then i got up a played **** stroll and pints. unfortunately i dont have audio or video for either act, i wish i did. if a vid does get its way on youtube ill post a link.

[Flagjacket]

Your school has a coffe house? What kind of white bread suburban school do you go to?

[Anarcho Poser]

My school does this thing called The Grind every wednesday night where they have free coffee and cookies and people play music, read poetry, etc.

[mullets suk]

Your school has a coffe house? What kind of white bread suburban school do you go to?

fairly average one actually, one of the other high schools (they are the REALLY REALLY rich one) puts on a festival once a year, with 3 stages and a bunch of local bands.

NAHS hosts it and they have free food and bands come in a play and stuff. normally its a lot of metal/hardcore, but this one band has played for 6 years straight, and so they made it "unplugged"

My school does this thing called The Grind every wednesday night where they have free coffee and cookies and people play music, read poetry, etc.

i think our school should do it more then twice a year, but the administration is retarted. how many people show up?

[Anarcho Poser]

i think our school should do it more then twice a year, but the administration is retarted. how many people show up?

I dunno, maybe 20 or 30 people. It's always the same crowd though.

[mullets suk]

as long as people came with new stuff to play/share it would be cool. its always the same 50-100 people for our coffee houses.

[Flagjacket]

My school does "open mic night" and student council and sometimes a boyfriend or girlfriend comes and no one does anything except for the Fresh Prince theme song.

[asdf]

My school's radio station is putting on a music fest with the headliner being Mission of Burma.

Great to not be in highschool.

[Liebensaft]

My school's radio station is putting on a music fest with the headliner being Mission of Burma.

Great to not be in highschool.

Wow, that's really awesome. I want to see that band pretty bad.

[SkaRobotArmy]

my highschool had coffee houses and stuff and last year even a battle of the bands. they are usually pretty lame but i still do it.

[Flagjacket]

I went to a battle of the bands at a Catholic high school and kept getting in trouble

god free youth up in this bitch

[me likes punk]

Are you done trying to get punk cred, Kevin?

[Flagjacket]

Too bad I'm already punker than you by so much you might as well be Ronald Reagan.

[Surtr]

I always do our schools battle of the bands, and win, due to the fact that we're always the only non-gay metal band. Every other band is usually some **** "metal" band.

Also, thread related, I just re-discovered my copy of New Wave and gave it another listen. I actually like almost all of it now. It's decent ****. Not as good as Searching For A Former Clarity and stuff but meh..

[Flagjacket]

Our school doesn't do Battle Of The Bands thank god because I would not want to sit through like two hours of douchebag buttrock bands, Atreyu tributes and Operation Ivy cover.

[Anarcho Poser]

So I was just gettin' my swell on at the gym, and Thrash Unreal came over the radio.

[SkaRobotArmy]

i love when there is good music at the gym. they played the shittiest song list yesterday...

[me likes punk]

So I was just gettin' my swell on at the gym, and Thrash Unreal came over the radio.

I hear it almost three times in a 7 hour shift. It gets to be such an annoying song to work(or workout) to.

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Am I the only one who's never heard AM! on the radio?

In other news, seeing them in 11 days.

[obese_breasts]

I haven't

[sketchyjoe]

The last time I saw them was pretty sweet. They played five songs off RAR.

I also saw them do Disco Before the Breakdown the time before that which was awesome.

[TakeWarning]

Against Me! get played on mainstream radio these days?

Ewww.

[obese_breasts]

OMG selloutz

[AndreTheHyena]

The more I listen to New Wave, the more I love it. It's been on constant rotation the past few weeks.

It seems like the record that Searching... was supposed to be.

[obese_breasts]

I listened to SFAFC the other day and was pleasantly reminded. I do like New Wave quite a bit though, everything but Animal, can't stand that song.

[TakeWarning]

I play SFAFC every once in a while but I still can't get into it.

[JumpTheF**kUp]

Violence is one of my favourite AM! songs.

TakeWarning, do you have TEE exams atm?

[mullets suk]

so saw AM! last night in DC. best show ever. they ended with the ocean, and everyone was like "WTF, ill kill you if you end on the ocean" then tom gabel comes out by him self with an electric/acoustic guitar and goes in to "cause baby im an anarchist", then when that ends the rest of the band comes on stage and they play "impact", and to finish it off they did "we laugh at the face of danger". it was the greatest show ever.

to top it all off i got the set list of both world inferno and AM!

[Liebensaft]

That's a pretty impressive closing.

[tom79]

I had the one like that, but with What We Worked For instead of Impact. Impact would be sick to see live. Thinking about their shows, I want them see them again really soon..

[asdf]

so saw AM! last night in DC. best show ever. they ended with the ocean, and everyone was like "WTF, ill kill you if you end on the ocean" then tom gabel comes out by him self with an electric/acoustic guitar and goes in to "cause baby im an anarchist", then when that ends the rest of the band comes on stage and they play "impact", and to finish it off they did "we laugh at the face of danger". it was the greatest show ever.

to top it all off i got the set list of both world inferno and AM!
This makes me really want to make an effort to get to their next show around here. Also, when did World/Inferno play, were they first? I just have a feeling that, since it'll be their first time playing over here, they wont get as much crowd enthusiasm as they really deserve (execpt from me, because I love them).

[mullets suk]

i never really got in to world inferno, and the only place i really heard of them was here. they went on second, after cobra skulls (think if johnny cash was a punk). both bands were really good, they played some stuff that people called out which is always really cool. since i dont know the songs by name i can post the set list so you can get an idea of what they played. (also there was alot of people who knew them, and got a couple big mosh pits, but then again im in DC not michigan, lol)

then came sage Frances...yea...that was interesting. if you never heard of him hes a rapper from providence Rhode island. one of the first things he says is "throw your guns in the air" and about 10 whitest of the white kids throw there "guns" in the air. i thought he sucked pretty bad but i have some friends that are really in to him.

[Flagjacket]

Rory World Inferno is huge in Michigan I don't know what you're talking about.

They were in Detroit with the Bouncing Souls and then again like two weeks ago.

[asdf]

Rory World Inferno is huge in Michigan I don't know what you're talking about.

They were in Detroit with the Bouncing Souls and then again like two weeks ago.Your side of Michigan, this is absolutely true. When I went to see them open for the Subhumans in Detroit they had plenty of fans and it was great. However, I seem to be the only fan of them in Grand Rapids (which they'll be playing for the first time at in a couple of weeks), as well as other places in West Michigan.

They're getting quite a bit of radio play on my college's station right now, though. I reviewed their newest CD for the variety DJs. So maybe that'll change in this area.

[me likes punk]

Your side of Michigan, this is absolutely true. When I went to see them open for the Subhumans in Detroit they had plenty of fans and it was great. However, I seem to be the only fan of them in Grand Rapids (which they'll be playing for the first time at in a couple of weeks), as well as other places in West Michigan.

They're getting quite a bit of radio play on my college's station right now, though. I reviewed their newest CD for the variety DJs. So maybe that'll change in this area.

Is your college in Grand Rapids?

[asdf]

Nope. There's no good college stations in GR.

[TakeWarning]

Violence is one of my favourite AM! songs.

TakeWarning, do you have TEE exams atm?

Yeah, I finished on Monday. :)

Why do you ask?

[JumpTheF**kUp]

Just wondering.

I have my last one tomorrow :awesome:

[TakeWarning]

Good luck.

Where are you going for Leavers?

[JumpTheF**kUp]

I'm not allowed to because my parents are gay. :/

Would've been going to Dunsborough though.

You?

[sketchyjoe]

so saw AM! last night in DC. best show ever. they ended with the ocean, and everyone was like "WTF, ill kill you if you end on the ocean" then tom gabel comes out by him self with an electric/acoustic guitar and goes in to "cause baby im an anarchist", then when that ends the rest of the band comes on stage and they play "impact", and to finish it off they did "we laugh at the face of danger". it was the greatest show ever.

to top it all off i got the set list of both world inferno and AM!
I saw them twice on their last tour. The first time when they came back on for the encore every shouted Disco at them until they play that first. Then they did Impact. The second time their encore was Baby/RAR/Danger which was incredibly awesome.

I've seen them play Impact a couple of times. The only song I really want to see them play but haven't is What We Worked For.

[void_]

God!

They must be good... 150+ pages of ranting and raving...

Im away to download a few tracks :)

[Henrik]

I wonder if they've ever played "Ya'll don't wanna step to dis" live. That track is so awesome, but I've never seen it on a set list.

[mullets suk]

out all their old stuff both y'all dont want to step to dis and what we worked for are the two songs that are up there for wanting them to play.

also all or nothing would be really cool...but thas never goin to happen.

[Cliche]

Here's a hilarious radio show with Against Me!


http://podcast.krockcleveland.com/wxrk/766173.mp3

[nitzguy]

Here's a hilarious radio show with Against Me!


http://podcast.krockcleveland.com/wxrk/766173.mp3

lol, they're grumpy.. they could be tired of talking about that crap

[Flagjacket]

How is that humorous at all I can't believe I wasted my time

[Anarcho Poser]

i thought it was a little funny. specially where he had the chick thinking it was one band.

[Cliche]

They played an acoustic show the other day somewhere and someone from Kraytracker sent me this message:

wow man...let me tell you what a show it was...here was the setlist from the best of my memory despite my extreme drunkenness....


Joy (just tom out on stage...one spotlight...very tight)
What We Worked For (****in RULED)
Walking is Still Honest
New Wave
Tonight we're gonna give it 35%
Dont Lose Touch
Impact
Reinventing Axl Rose
Thrash Unreal
Sink, Florida, Sink
Unsubstantiated Rumors are good enough to base your life upon
The Ocean
Those Anarcho Punxs are Mysterious (upright base, so tight)
Pints of Guinness(upright base again)
Baby I'm an Anarchist (just tom and James...just unbelievable)
Wagon Wheel ( just tom and james again...can't believe they played this)
8 Full Hours of Sleep (just tom, one spotlight....****in AWESOME)

The good news is there was a professional camera crew there so it is possible they will be releasing the video at some point

[obese_breasts]

holy jaysus that's an awesome setlist

[asdf]

From what I here there will be major record labels and such at the show around here. Possibly filming. (and last time they played here there was a picture from the show in SPIN magazine. I didn't even know anyone was taking photos).

Seeing as I'm hearing good things about recent shows, I'm very upset that I can't find anyone who will bring me there, now that I live away from the venue. Pissing me off.

[Sunshine]

They're playing St. Louis on Sunday.
And by "St. Louis," I mean "East St. Louis."
But it's at an 18+ club.
And my 18th birthday isn't 'til December.
Which sucks.
Mucho ***.

[Anarcho Poser]

borrow a friend who's older and has the same color hair's ID

[Liebensaft]

Seriously. If they're going to card, they're not going to do anything besides get a brief glimpse at a face.

Also, holy damn. I'd like to see a video of that acoustic show.

[mullets suk]

that set list would been crazy, and an up right bass. fricken awesome

also Cliche could you upload wagon wheel? after that my against me! collection will be filled (besides live shows, but im not to worried about that)

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

Just got back from seeing em. They played the exact setlist I hoped they wouldn't, namely, a couple songs of ATEC and Pints of Guinness and then the rest from New Wave and SFAFC, but then the encore was Baby, I'm An Anarchist, What We Worked For and Walking Is Still Honest, so it was all good.

[Cliche]

that set list would been crazy, and an up right bass. fricken awesome

also Cliche could you upload wagon wheel? after that my against me! collection will be filled (besides live shows, but im not to worried about that)


http://www.sendspace.com/file/ubsn1d

Out of curiosity, do you have the "We're Here to Ruin Your Fun" Cassette rip?

[AndreTheHyena]

I had a dream last night that I was doing dishes while singing Against Me! songs with all of my friends.

[Sunshine]

borrow a friend who's older and has the same color hair's ID

My hair is, at the moment, 4 different colors.
And driving to East St. Louis = having your car jacked, its pretty automatic.

[Anarcho Poser]

My hair is, at the moment, 4 different colors.
And driving to East St. Louis = having your car jacked, its pretty automatic.

even better, that means you can get anyone's ID.

Wht are you saying? That you're scurred? Bein' scurred ain't punk, boy!

[mullets suk]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ubsn1d

Out of curiosity, do you have the "We're Here to Ruin Your Fun" Cassette rip?

thanks alot, and no ive never heard of that cassette.

[Cliche]

It's a comp cassette from their early days with two alternate acoustic takes of some Vivida Vis songs.

[Henrik]

Hehe I've never heard of that cassette either. Is it any good?

And Damn an awesome set list.

[Sunshine]

even better, that means you can get anyone's ID.

Wht are you saying? That you're scurred? Bein' scurred ain't punk, boy!

Haha, I'm pretty sure it's sold out anyway.

And.

*girl.

[mullets suk]

gotta admit sunshine, ur name and user title makes me lol every time i see it

[Pirate Satellite]

My friend heard an acoustic version of "You Look Like I Need A Drink" in his father's car on XM radio. Does anyone know more about this?

[Twin Human Highway Flares]

It's on the Cavalier Eternel 7". They did two 7"s of alternate takes of ATEC songs, one having electric versions of Sink, Florida, Sink and Unsubstantiated Rumors, and one with the acoustic You Look Like I Need A Drink and a different (can't remember exactly how it's different) version of Cavalier Eternel.

[AndreTheHyena]

They're playing St. Louis on Sunday.
And by "St. Louis," I mean "East St. Louis."
But it's at an 18+ club.
And my 18th birthday isn't 'til December.
Which sucks.
Mucho ***.

Where in the world would they be playing in East St. Louis? Unless you mean Pop's, which isn't really in ESLtL...

[asdf]

Seeing them tonight.

[Sunshine]

Where in the world would they be playing in East St. Louis? Unless you mean Pop's, which isn't really in ESLtL...

I just moved to St. Louis, that's what I heard --- Pop's is East. But maybe not?
Regardless, couldn't go, heard it was awesome.

And I'm glad I could bring teh lulz.

[asdf]

Against Me's setlist was more or less what was expected. The Encore was : Tonight We're gonna give it 35%, Walking is still Honest, and We Laugh at Danger and Break all the Rules

They did play Pints..., cliche..., sink florida sink, rice and bread, and i think beyond that it was pretty much the last two albums, much of which I don't know song titles. As expected they ended with Ocean. While they were playing it some girl at the front was shouting out another song and they almost stopped playing. Tom said "we're not playing that song right now" and I really thought they were going to leave. When they finished everyone stood around waiting for an encore, but wasn't really cheering.

[AndreTheHyena]

I just moved to St. Louis, that's what I heard --- Pop's is East. But maybe not?
Regardless, couldn't go, heard it was awesome.

And I'm glad I could bring teh lulz.

Pop's is definitely not in "East St. Louis" in the ghetto sense of the word. It's in Illinois (in an industrial district, I believe). But it is East of St. Louis proper. As a new arrival, I won't judge you too harshly.

Missouri represent.

[Flagjacket]

Missouri represent.


yeah yeah nelly and murphy lee holdin it down for the STL

[Sunshine]

Much appreciated, and noted for shore.
Pop's =/= East St. Louis.

[AndreTheHyena]

yeah yeah nelly and murphy lee holdin it down for the STL

Don't forget about Tech N9ne. And the Urge.

[asdf]

The Industry is Punks

[Flagjacket]

Don't forget about Tech N9ne. And the Urge.

Well ok but I hate Tech N9ne.

[SkaRobotArmy]

lots of tech 9s in east st louis by the sound of it...

[Flagjacket]

Well St Louis was America's most dangerous in 2006 but the Detroit Flint combo have restored their Lakers/Spurs-like dominance.

[AndreTheHyena]

Yeah, you just don't go to East St. Louis. It's ridiculously dangerous. For a while, St. Louis was towards the top of all of those great lists; "Lowest Quality of Living", "Dirtiest", "Most Dangerous". Probably still is.

[Flagjacket]

No I just said Detroit is number one again you illiterate hillbilly

[AndreTheHyena]

I said towards the top, slant-eyes.

[Flagjacket]

I can't believe you get internet all the way in the Ozarks. Do they even have phones?

[AndreTheHyena]

How are you even managing to read the text with your eyes so squinty?

[SkaRobotArmy]

How are you even managing to read the text with your eyes so squinty?
hahhahahhaha.

[Chicken And Waffuls]

i saw agains tme and inferno a couple of weeks ago and i have to say, i was pretty impressed. they played all the new stuff and then they came out with a bad *** mother ****ing eoncore that non of the 14 year old kids knew!!!!

[Flagjacket]

Nik are you drunk.

I saw WIFS live once and it failed to do anything but anger me.

[mullets suk]

any one see the recent rolling stones review of new wave. (i think its from a few months ago) heres an excerpt:

Tom Gabel's emo-hardcore band makes them rock.

major lulz

[AndreTheHyena]

What does that even mean?

[mullets suk]

also, AM! is lined up to play the '08 warped tour, who said that they werent goin to play warped again?

[Flagjacket]

no one

[Liebensaft]

Half-hour Against Me! sets are pretty lame.

[obese_breasts]

tru dat

[Gnarmageddon]

AM! shows are fun, even if their new stuff blows.

[Brewing Up With]

Well I guess Against Me! are past the point of no return for selling out. A lovely upcoming stadium tour with the Foo Fighters for winter/spring 2008! I wouldn't bother going to one of those shows even if I had free tickets.

[SkaRobotArmy]

wait is that a joke or srsly happening?

[Flagjacket]

do people even care about AM! selling out anymore. get over it.

[Brewing Up With]

wait is that a joke or srsly happening?

No joke, it's on their official website. Check the shows section.

$43 tickets. Nice.

[Brewing Up With]

do people even care about AM! selling out anymore. get over it.

I was over it until I saw this on their website. Now I've just lost a good amount respect for them.

[Flagjacket]

They played stadiums before this tour.

But honestly how can you lose respect for them because they want to do this? There's a lot of money in it for them, and I'm sure that's very appealing when you can go from getting your tires slashed by fans for signing to an independent label to not having to worry about your financial well being for the rest of your life.

[Ghostfire3]

They played stadiums before this tour.

But honestly how can you lose respect for them because they want to do this? There's a lot of money in it for them, and I'm sure that's very appealing when you can go from getting your tires slashed by fans for signing to an independent label to not having to worry about your financial well being for the rest of your life.

Yeah, but it's the fact that their ideals and motives have changed from what they used to be that makes stuff like this disappointing.

[Flagjacket]

Ok I understand that

[Brewing Up With]

Yeah, but it's the fact that their ideals and motives have changed from what they used to be that makes stuff like this disappointing.

Yeah, they can make their own decisions, but it's just hard to listen and see them now knowing how they used to be before they started branching out.

[Liebensaft]

That Foo Fighters thing is seriously lame as hell. I doubt I'll go see them again. It gets worse and worse each time.

[AndreTheHyena]

I still love New Wave. And a friend who saw them on their tour with Sage Frances said they still "got it". I dunno, I really don't care about their success. Good for them. It's been said again and again, but if I could get paid enough to support myself and my family (I supremely doubt they're millionaires) by just doing what I love, I'd jump at the chance.

[Teeb]

It's almost amusing how they are consistently moving farther and farther from their roots. With every step I seem to find myself thinking "at least they're not doing X," only to find out a month later that they are.

Also, no one here has really gone to this degree, but I despise the "well do you want them to flip burgers for the rest of their lives?" mentality that a lot of people seem to have. It's as if the only option that any band has is to sign to a major or barely scrape by while working 2 jobs. That's bullshit. On We're Never Going Home, Tom says something along the lines of "We're in a position where we're actually being offered a million dollars to make a record." That entire DVD seemed to say that although their were plenty of advantages and luxuries to signing to a major, it certainly wasn't something they needed to do.

I'm not going to walk around town waving "new againt me! sucks" signs, no one is forcing me to listen to anything new they put out, and I don't listen to the radio, so I won't hear them on it. The Against Me! that I love no longer exists, and I've accepted that. It does, however, annoy the **** out of me when people say that the route they're on now was really their only choice.

[Brewing Up With]

That Foo Fighters thing is seriously lame as hell. I doubt I'll go see them again. It gets worse and worse each time.

If they play at the Triple Rock in Minneapolis I'll see them again. That would be so unenjoyable to pay almost 50 dollars to see them open for the Foo Fighters in a huge stadium.

[Flagjacket]

But you guys think about if you packed a baseball stadium full of rowdy Against Me! fans if it were even possible.

crowd surf from third base to center field

[mullets suk]

They played stadiums before this tour.

But honestly how can you lose respect for them because they want to do this?...

holy lame jokes batman, thats the first thing flagjacket has ever said that gets some respect.

and i think its lame for i dont like seeing bands in larga arenas. i dont hate that they are playing them i just wouldnt want to be there.

[AndreTheHyena]

Didn't Jawbreaker tour with the Foo Fighters and sign to a major label?

I've read several interviews with AM! where they cited the Replacements as an influence, and the Replacements were a flagship band for the whole "signing to a major, milkin' 'em for all its worth, and still doing whatever the **** you want" practice. If AM! models their major label career after artists like that, or Neil Young or Wilco or any other major label act that still acts like an indie act....I don't know how I planned on ending that sentence. But you know what I mean.

This argument is so stupid. No one's mind is ever going to be changed. **** the sell-outs, and **** the accusers.

[mullets suk]

damn the man, down with the system

[asdf]

I expect nothing from Against Me! Why should I?

[Deconstruction]

Didn't Jawbreaker tour with the Foo Fighters and sign to a major label?

I've read several interviews with AM! where they cited the Replacements as an influence, and the Replacements were a flagship band for the whole "signing to a major, milkin' 'em for all its worth, and still doing whatever the **** you want" practice. If AM! models their major label career after artists like that, or Neil Young or Wilco or any other major label act that still acts like an indie act....I don't know how I planned on ending that sentence. But you know what I mean.

This argument is so stupid. No one's mind is ever going to be changed. **** the sell-outs, and **** the accusers.
Hah, I love how this is one of the first threads I see when I come back into the punk forum(its been a while since I last posted)...They never used to get this much attention here but whatever...and just to be correct here they even covered a Replacements song on a tribute album, they still have played fairly small venues in tampa (except they just played NEXT BIG THING 7 Google it!) whate3ver

[Chicken And Waffuls]

http://buzzworthy.mtv.com/2007/12/10/mtv-artist-of-the-week-against-me/

lolz. our babies are grown up.

[SkaRobotArmy]

i still like new wave. i even like a few foo's songs. maybe they are big foo's fans, if i got offered to play with the chili peppers or something i'd do it even if it meant i had to play an arena...
no it wasn't their only choice to sign, but it was definately in their best interests as a band and like andrew said, it doesn't matter f'uck all as long as they keep making good music.

[obese_breasts]

Last two times I have seen them, one right before and one right after new wave, were still some of the greatest ****ing experiences ever. I still think they are one of the best bands to come out of the last few years.

[Teeb]

i still like new wave. i even like a few foo's songs. maybe they are big foo's fans, if i got offered to play with the chili peppers or something i'd do it even if it meant i had to play an arena...
no it wasn't their only choice to sign, but it was definately in their best interests as a band and like andrew said, it doesn't matter f'uck all as long as they keep making good music.

I can see how it was in their best interest to sign. I guess it all comes down to what they value more; money or ideals. Their early work suggested that it was ideals, but their later actions clearly show that it is money. This is where the dissapointment stems from.

[Ghostfire3]

Oh, they still have ideals. It's just that their ideals happen to revolve around making as much money possible.

[mullets suk]

lulz at white people for peace on a cellphone commercial.